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well, that's it for us tonight. i will be back tomorrow. "don lemon tonight" starts right now. i almost ended there, just to make sure his name -- don lemon. oh, the show, starts tonight.
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you are the show, my friend. don lemon starts tonight. >> it's a real, real show. i have been called a show, not even -- off of television, i have been called a show. hey, i saw you -- >> greatest show on earth. >> there you go. there you go. i saw you ended your program this evening with those restrictive law about not saying gay. it's -- i mean, what -- what are we doing here? where are we going? >> sometimes, don't you feel like you read the headlines and you go is this a real head -- like -- like, this is actually happening right now? or is this some sort of channel i want to change and go, if this were a movie, i would say this doesn't happen. and i -- more and more, between voting rights and this, i think to myself i am a little d disoriented as to what year it is. aren't you? >> yeah, i am. i remember -- listen. i guess, i can't say gay -- kidding, because they don't want you to say gay. >> might hurt the kids apparently. >> as someone who grew up with that secret, it would have been
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better to me if we had more information about it, if we had learned about it. if it -- if it, um, if i didn't have to keep it a secret and hold on to those things as many others who grew up like me. i thought we were moving to a place where it was better for kids of the lgbtq plus community, that we wanted to make sure they knew they were normal, that that is normal so they wouldn't have to harm themselves or even take their lives. >> so, i'm so glad that you shared that perspective because it's -- it is heartbreaking to think about that because i know i often read about and you see the notion of it gets better as sort of a way to help people to feel like there is hope on the horizon. and i wonder how you convince someone of that when you see that it's getting worse legislatively. what that looks like to people, and feeling that alienation, that they are alone or something is wrong. i -- what's wrong is how this is being handled, nothing else. >> yep. good place to end. thank you, laura. i will see you tomorrow. >> don lemon, the show, starts
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now. >> the greatest show on earth starts right now. this is d"don lemon tonight." thank you so much for joining us, and we are going to begin with breaking news. it seems that we -- it becomes every moment, lately, right? it is a lot of news, lot of breaking news. "the new york times" is reporting, everyone, that the national archives discovered -- i can't believe -- i can't believe i am reporting this because i am thinking back to 2015 and 2016. remember the e-mails? oh my gosh and all that. national archives discovered, according to "the new york times," what believed was classified information in the documents that the former president took with him from the white house when he left washington in disgrace. they found the information after he returned 15 boxes of documents to the government last month. and according to a source, it prompted the archives to go to the doj for guidance. mishandling classified documents is a very big deal. right? remember. but shouldn't we be saying, but his e-mails!
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lock him up. russia, if you are listening? >> 33,000 e-mails disappeared. people who have nothing to hide don't smash phones with hammers. they don't. people who have nothing to hide don't bleach -- nobody's ever heard of it -- don't bleach their e-mails or destroy evidence to keep it from being publicly archived, as required under federal law. >> she also and her staff destroyed some of her 13 different phones. but this time, with a hammer. >> projection, huh? not just in a screening room. on full display. that is happening, as the january 6th committee issues a subpoena to peter navarro, one of the loudest voices in the room pushing the plan.
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chairman bennie thompson writing navarro quote hasn't been shy in his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. he laid out the plan in detail in an interview with "the daily beast" back in december and i quote. we spent a lot of timelining up over 100 congressmen, including some senators. it started out perfectly. at 1:00 p.m., gosar and cruz did exactly what -- what was expected of them. it was a perfect plan. and it all predicated on peace and calm on capitol hill. we didn't even need any protestors because we had over 100 congressmen committed to it. again, there it is, right out in the open. peter navarro is not done talking. just this week, he wrote to mike pence saying what his former boss did was wrong, and what he asked him to do was un-american. stunning statement there, turns
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out. source telling cnn recent criticism from the former president pushed pence over the edge. >> mike, i don't want to hear this crap. you are dead politically. don don't be going out and giving speeches and talking smack about trump. >> little t-shirt and the thing is on espn. like, what is that? can you please roll that, again? can i see it? just, what is that? >> mike, i don't want to hear this crap. you are dead politically. don't be going out and giving speeches and saying -- talking smack about trump. >> on the 50-yard line. and then, right into the end zone. okay. this is serious stuff. but that is weird, whatever it is, that is. peter navarro came on down -- come on down, i should say, and join the subpoena club. along with steve bannon, the guy he was just on the tv there with, and dozens of others.
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and then there is, of course, rudy giuliani always seems to be behind the wheel of the clown car of crazy. "the washington post" reporting he asked a michigan prosecutor to give voting machines to trump's team and a -- and a -- in a county where the -- were found and corrected. and in the face of all this, all the investigations, all the evidence, all the subpoenas, it seems the one thing that's got republicans at odds is the rnc's censure resolution and those three words. right? these three words will live in infamy. you are going to hear them a lot, a lot, especially during campaign season. you know them. legitimate political discourse. mitch mcconnell, just last night, smacked down the rnc when he called what happened on january 6th a violent insurrection. and then, there is ted cruz. ted cruz, who repeatedly called what happened on january 6th a violent terrorist attack, until
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he had to grovel before tucker carlson for the cardinal sin of actually telling the truth. now, he says this. >> the word insurrection is politically-charged propaganda. it is happily used by democrats and the corporate media. january 6th, there were thousands of peaceful protestors exercising their first amendment right to speak. >> well, insurrection is the exact word that describes what happened on january 6th. that is quite an about face for him from violent terrorist attack, to calling the word insurrection politically charged p propaganda. how about kevin mccarthy literally running away from a reporter for abc trying to ask him about the rnc's resolution? were they in the gym?
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nancy pelosi, slamming republicans and mccarthy. >> it's disturbing to see that the republican leader of the house ran -- actually, literally, refused to condemn that legitimate political discourse, he literally ran away from the press when he was asked about his position. republicans can run but they can not hide from what happened on january 6th. >> let's bring in now, cnn senior political analyst, mr. john avlon. his upcoming book, "lincoln and the fight for peace." also, stuart stevens, former chief strategist for the romney presidential campaign. good evening to both of you. i mean, was there a treadmill? they -- he was moving.
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oh we -- gosh we have to laugh at this sometimes. john, typically, republicans fall in line. they are all on the same page, right? and democrats are the ones beating each other up. instead, it seem likes the gop -- the divide is widening here with mcconnell and mccarthy's split on whether the g -- about this rnc censure. how does this play out? >> well, look. the reason that, you know, republicans usually fall in line, except when they are being asked to commit to a lie. and so, you're starting to see cracks in the cult. and that's healthy for democracy. i wouldn't overstate it. still, only got a handful of these folks but mitch mcconnell speaking out, mike pence speaking out, mitt romney speaking out, thom tillis, all of the sudden, that creates more cover for people to stand up and do the right thing. and what you need is for people to say they represent the reality-based republican party, and push back on -- on -- on the big-lie cultists. and like ted cruz, the fact that he came out and called january 6th terrorism. then, he had his sort of
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struggle session with tucker carlson. and now, he is saying we can't even call it an insurrection, let alone terrorism. that is the opposite evolution. that's particularly pathetic but it's not surprising because, hey, ted cruz. >> i mean, they have to know -- ted cruz has to know when it comes out of his mouth, you know, it was an insurrection. what else are you going to call it? stuart, describing january 6th, though, as legitimate political discourse -- why -- why was this a bridge too far for some in the gop? i mean, we have had so much that happened. a lot of them are still saying the election was stolen. there were election irregularities. so why is this a bridge too far? >> i think it's saying the parts you are not supposed to say out loud. um, you know, i just go back to i think there is a danger that we're sort of dumbing down where these people should be and giving 'em too much credit. as far as i know, mitch mcconnell still has the position
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he would vote for donald trump, were he the republican nominee in '24. i think all those -- so does pence. no one has said they will oppose donald trump, except a few like cheney and romney. that -- that's a small number and that's where the line should be. pence really hasn't come forward as far as i know and say that donald trump and i lost this election. and i think that's the line we have to hold him to because that's the line, really, that -- where democracy is. it's not enough to say just to -- the process of certification, i couldn't have changed. he lost. he lost by a million votes. he got crushed. you need to go out and say that because unless someone is willing to lose, there can be no democracy. >> stuart, let me ask you this. um, you are voicing something that is similar to what officer michael fanone says. you know, he was the officer that was attacked by those violent rioters, those insurrectionists on january 6th. and he said the right things may
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be coming out of pence's mouth now or mitch mcconnell's mouth now. but why didn't they do this all along? do you believe that you should meet people where they are? and do you think that, no, they are only doing this for political expedience? what do you think of it? >> i think mcconnell is getting a lot of corporate pressure. you know, a lot of ceos. rather have a system like ours, than a system like in russia. more of the country is for democracy than is against it. but the majority of the republican party does not believe that joe biden is the legally elected president, which means the majority of the republican party doesn't believe in a democracy. and that's where the dividing line is. it's -- it's really -- it's not confusing. it's really clearcut. either, you have to be that we have a legal system of elections, in which the president of the united states was elected. or we don't. so, i think that all of this just goes back to this
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fundamental evil that the republicans embraced for power. and you can't negotiate with evil. i mean, when john and i were republicans, this is one of the tenets republicans prided themselves on. don't negotiate with evil. it's situational ethics, all of those things. well, those values were right. it's just that republicans now have the opposite values. >> um, john, i want you to weigh in but stuart just said because corporate pressure. that's why mcconnell is doing. correct me if i am wrong, stuart. but is it becoming easier to speak out against trump? >> well, look, certainly, donations are one thing politicians respond to. also, the comfort of -- of other colleagues having your back. but of course, stuart is right. it should just come down to basic principle and he is also right about where the line is. it's would you vote for donald trump again just because he is a member of your party, which
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means that you are putting party over country, definitionally. i mean, this is -- if -- if somebody trying to overturn an election, incite an insurrection, and continue to lie about it. um, if that's not too far, what is? the answer is nothing. >> john, um, i want -- so, appears to me -- i have been saying this all along. i think that the republican party kind of wants the control -- similar to what stuart was saying about power -- but wants to have a party that is unified, regardless of what it's behind. you know, i don't think it's anything good. they want trumpism, so to speak, but they don't necessarily want trump. do you understand what i am saying? they think he is too toxic and they are going to lose with him but they sort of want the control and -- and the things that he stood for, and the judges and all of that. does that make sense? do you understand what i am saying? >> yeah, i understand what you are saying and that's one of the many rationalizations that get trotted out when people refuse to condemn trump directly.
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we need his base in order to win, and, therefore, we can't you know, afford to take him on. but i don't think you can actually separate trump and trumpism, at the end of the day. >> hang on one second. i should have said this. i am thinking in terms of the upcoming elections is what i am talking. i'm not looking back. i am thinking in terms of people actually going to the polls, voting for him, supporting him. go on, sorry to interrupt. >> allegedly. >> yeah. >> um, but look. i -- i think what -- clearly, the dance the republican party is doing, the line they are trying to walk is -- is to benefit from his support, not piss him off. therefore, that means kowtow to him and don't contradict a lie. but keep just enough distance where you don't alienate, you know, the center-right and swing voters. you actually need to win elections in america. to stuart's point, the dividing line for folks in the sercenterd swing voters, do they believe in democracy? are they backing the big lie?
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anything adjacent or accommodating to that is complicit. >> yeah. i have got to run but what do you got -- the irony of these classified materials and the whole e-mail but her e-mail last time. i mean, stuart, quickly, can you -- i mean what do you -- what do you think of this? can this be any more ridiculous? >> the entire trump presidency -- the campaign was a large-criminal enterprise. the entire trump presidency was a large criminal enterprise. he tried to steal democracy. why do you think he is not going to steal documents? we have to quit being surprised by this stuff. they are a bunch of gangsters who were running the united states of america. >> yeah. thank you, both. i appreciate it. so -- and that is our breaking news. possible classified material in boxes the former president took with him when he left the white house. we are going to continue to talk about that. plus, bob saget's family saying he died from head trauma. our dr. sanjay gupta is here to explain what might have happened.
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law enforcement analyst andrew mccabe. the former-fbi deputy director. and senior legal analyst elie honig, a former federal prosecutor. gentlemen, hello. good evening. "the new york times," andrew, is reporting tonight that the national archives discovered what they think is classified information in the records that trump took with him when he left the white house that have, since, been returned. now, the archives has -- the archives has reached out to the justice department for guidance. doesn't classified documents make this a lot more serious? >> well, it does, don. you're -- you're no longer talking about potentially the failure to observe the presidential records act, which is, of course, the law that requires the president and the office of the president to preserve all the president's records and it maintains that the owner of those records is essentially the american people, not the president, himself. so -- but that's basically an administrative statute. the mishandling statute, which
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is the one that penalizes people in government positions for taking classified information, knowingly, and bringing it to a place that's not authorized to keep it. um, that is a criminal statute and it's punishable by a year in jail or some sort of a fine, so, yeah, i think -- i think it stepp steps up the seriousness here considerably. >> elie, how does this look, especially the ruthless attacks on hillary clinton about her e-mails and so on, and now you have something that is -- it seems as serious or maybe even real more than that. >> it looks rid clusz, it looks hypocritical. but legal ly speaking if you lok at the clips we showed before, it shows donald trump actually has quite a sophisticated understanding of these laws andrew was just talking about. the need to preserve documents, especially the need to preserve classified documents and so it sort of takes away that whole ignorance defense. the defense of this was an accident. i didn't realize what i was
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doing. i didn't realize the significance of these documents so that is something doj i think is going to be taking a look at and weighing. >> but how would they get documents? why are those documents in the residence. >> one of many questions. were they pack upd with the clothing and the china? i mean, how could they have gotten out of the white house, in the first place? i mean, there is a million questions but i think doj needs to dig into. and all those specifics matter, fwauz they are going to show us whether this was carelessness on the one hand or intentional on the other. >> are there nuances regarding classified status when it comes to a president or former president? >> sure, don, because the president, of course, has the ability to declassify any information or documents that he wants, basically for any reason he wants at any time. so, that raises the specter of, well, maybe, did he declassify these things before he stuffed them in a box in the residence
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and sent 'em to mar-a-lago? it is a good question but if he did, there needs to be some record of that as well. it is not just wave the magic wand and say i hereby declassify. somebody has to make a record of that, and record those documents and officially, you know, put them in some sort of release form. so, yeah, there is definitely some digging that will have to go on here, either by the inspector general for the national archives or potentially by justice department investigators. >> you can't -- remember, they said you couldn't indict or a sitting president couldn't go to jail, elie. i mean, is he going to say, i declassified these or they are no more -- i don't know. >> he may try to say. as andrew said, there is going to have to be record that he did it at the time. he can't do it now. >> oh, he can't just say -- depends what is in the boxes, right? >> exactly. and if he is arguing i declassified them, he has got to show he did them back then. now is too late. >> andrew, january 6th committee issued a subpoena for trump's
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one-time trade adviser, peter navarro. he was one of trump's loyal soldiers working over -- working overtime to overturn the le election. listen to this. >> everything i am seeing, liz, tells me that this election was stolen. what i think we need to do tomorrow is appoint a special prosecutor to look at this issue. i think the georgia race needs to be postponed till february because that place is a cesspool of -- of activity. they -- they ran the table on all of these dimensions of -- of irregularities. so, we need to do those things and i think we ought to think about seizing the voting machines. they stole this. we can prove it. >> wow. seizing the voting machines. i mean, navarro is now responding to the committee, calling them domestic terrorists. he is clearly defiant here, andrew, so what do they gain by getting him before the committee? >> boy, i don't know, don,
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because if he is going to get in front of the committee and talk about running the table on dimensions of irregularities, i am not sure anybody learns anything from that. you know, it's just -- again, you talk about the rank hypocrisy from this crowd. for navarro to have gone on television, podcasts, and talked about all these things so openly. and now, of course, when the congressional committee, duly authorized by law to investigate this matter, has asked him to come and provide information. all the sudden, oh, that is all privileged and it can't be discussed which we know is, of course, just utter bunk. so, once again, i am going to take the same position here, don, the committee should go after that testimony they think is relevant and important to their inquiry. and if they think navarro has that sort of information, they should subpoena him and look to enforcement of any subpoena that he ignores. >> so how is this all going to play out? will he show up? is he going to answer questions in person? committee, are they going to have to go with a contemp route
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and at least try to enforce the law here? >> he seems quite uninclined to testify, calling them domestic terrorists i think is a bit of a tipoff there. but as andrew said, the committee is going to have to decide whether they want to play hardball with the folks defying them. there is not a growing list of people who have received subpoenas, who have made clear they have no intention to testify. will the committee hold them in contempt? the committee did it for steve bannon and mark meadows, and then kind of stopped and it has been a while. so, is the committee going to go that step and continue holding people in contempt, and sending them over to doj for potential prosecution? >> this is so weird. like, everyone else in the world -- >> has to comply. >> -- has to comply. >> that's right. >> what -- what the hell? >> that is also a question for the committee, right? yfr they not subpoenaed ivanka trump? why have they not subpoenaed kevin mccarthy and jim jordan? people we know have relevant information. so, there is a little bit of a distinction in the way the k committee is treating more powerful folks, better connected folks, versus sort of normal
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folks. >> thank you, both. i appreciate it. thank you, andrew. there he is, back on the screen. thanks. i appreciate it. documents ripped and re-taped. boxes of documents taken to mar-a-lago. i am going to ask impeachment manager from the second trump -- we got distinguish -- there were two of them, right? the second trump impeachment, if he is surprised. congressman jason crow is next. anywhere our rv takes us” plan. and the “zero copays means more money for rumba lessons” plan. find the right plan for you from unitedhealthcare. get medicare with more.
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we are learning more tonight about how far the former president was willing to go to stay in power. joining me now, democratic congressman jason crow. congressman, a pleasure. thank you for joining us this evening. the national archives asking the justice department to investigate trump's handling of records after they recovered 15 boxes of documents from mar-a-lago. you were an impeachment manager during trump's second impeachment. does any of this shock you? >> well, i wish that it did shock me, don, but it doesn't unfortunately which i guess is just an illustration of the depths of the prior administration, and what donald trump was willing to do. the only thing that i thought about when i saw this breaking news was the -- the huge disconnect between donald trump and the people that he was supposed to lead. when i was an army ranger, we dealt with classified material all the time. and if we took that classified material out of the secure facilities that it was intended to be stored in, we would be in
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very big trouble. and here, you now have the commander in chief that may have been doing the same thing. of course, we know that he was cavalier with classified information bwith the russians. meetings with the russian foreign minister and so many other examples. just yet another one. >> so many republicans are on the trump train. even adam kinzinger is talking about the risk of civil war. what is going on now? >> well, what's going on is the republican party continues to grapple with its future. you have the mainstream of the republican party has really capitu capitulated to donald trump. and you have a few people with great courage, whom i disagree with on policy discussions but listen, i am willing to have a policy discussion any day of the week with people because we deal with hard issues. this is different. you have people that are just willing to do whatever donald trump says. a cult of personality. and that's what is happening and it's having that battle for its
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soul right now, and it's really important that this come out in the right way. that there is a viable republican party and i say that as a democrat, because we need a viable party to negotiate with, to work with, that will deal with the disinformation, misinformation, big lies and deal with it with some courage. >> when you see, congressman, how the divisions that trump really supercharged, how they are only growing wider, are you concerned that no matter what the january 6th committee finds, the people who don't want to believe it, they just won't believe it? >> well, i don't know whether it's growing wider. i -- i know it's growing deeper. so, within those folks who have chosen to believe it or who have been pulled into the orbit of the big -- big lie and donald trump and his enablers, those beliefs are getting more extreme. they are getting more violent, in many instances. threats against members of congress, against local-elected officials, against school board
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mach members, and so many others are drastically increasing. so i am worried about this extremist movement deepening and changing in nature to become more violent than it has already shown itself to be on january 6th and other occasions. so, we should take that very seriously and that's another illustration why we need people of both sides of the aisle and, frankly, more republicans to stand up and show some courage. because folks -- they don't want to listen to me for obvious reasons. but they will listen to somebody maybe with a different letter behind their name and that's why dissent is so important by liz cheney, adam kinzinger and so many others. >> before we let you go, i want to ask you about ukraine. con depressman, you led a delegation there to coordinate weapons transfer. the white house approved a plan to evacuate u.s. sit incidence in ukraine if russia invades. what more can the u.s. do amid these rising tensions? should the u.s. be doing more?
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>> well, don, the administration is doing a lot. they -- they have sent in defensive weapons systems and equipment. we are providing assistance on cybersecurity. we have been training and advising the ukrainian military for a while. we are leading the nato coalition in its response. we are bolstering the eastern flank of nato and we are doing a bunch of other things, as well. so certainly, a robust response. what congress needs to do is actually pass a sanctions package, and send it to the president for signing and i continue to push my colleagues to expedite that sanctions package. that's something that congress can actually step in to do. but we don't know what vladimir putin is going to do. it's very dangerous. it is a very risky situation. i think we have to be -- we have to show a lot of resolve here because we cannot allow strongmen and autocrats like vladimir putin literal hily use tanks, in this instance, to capture a democratic sovereign free nation. i think the future of democracy
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and future freedom he relies on our response here and this is a big test for us. >> listen, even having the knowledge that you have, do we know -- is there any indication about what putin will do? what do you think? >> i think it's very, very likely it's increasingly likely that he will invade. that is my estimation. he may not. this is not a 100% situation. >> so what does that mean for us if he does? >> well, if it does, that means we have to pass sanctions. we have to have a very strong response. we cannot let this go without substantial cost and i think it also means, for us, that we should support a resistance movement because one thing is really clear. this is where putin is wrong. this is where people like to talk about how, you know, he plays this masterful game. i think he is making some potentially huge mistakes here. one of which, is he is mis -- he is understestimating the streng of the ukrainian response and the resistance. he might be able to take their provincial army within a couple
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weeks or even less but there is going to be ukrainian resistance that is going to be very painful for him and the russian military. ukrainians are ready to fight and we have been supporting them, and helping bolstering that resistance if necessary and i think vladimir putin needs to reassess. >> americans are wondering if we are going to have to join that resistance movement. will there be ground troops from n nato or allied forces? >> i don't see that happening. the president's been very clear we are not going to send troops into action here, be in a situation even close of conflict to the russian military. that is the right decision by the president. we certainly don't need two involved in another war, right after he ended our nation's longest war. but there are many, many other things we can do to support our ukrainian partners and our friends and make this a wrong move for russia. >> thank you, congressman. i appreciate your time. >> thank you, don. breaking tonight. we are learning the cause of death for actor and comedian bob saget. i have dr. sanjay gupta who is
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breaking news tonight. bob saget's cause of death revealed. his family saying in a statement, the authorities have determined that bob passed from head trauma. they have concluded that he accidentally hit the back of his head on something, thought nothing of it, and went to sleep. no drugs or alcohol were involved. saget was found dead in orlando, florida, in a hotel room there after performing a two-hour comedy seat on january 9th. the family saying they have been overwhelmed by the outpouring of love and going on to say and i quote here, now that we have final conclusions from the authorities' investigation, we felt it only proper that the fans hear those conclusions directly from us. let's discuss this now, cnn's chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta joins us. sanjay, thanks so much.
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help us understand what kind of head trauma would this be? >> well, it -- it sounds like, you know, from -- from what they are saying there is that this was a -- probably, a bleed that occurred on top of the brain. um, subdural hematoma is one of the most common sort of scenarios here, and this is tough to talk about, don. it is tough to be so clinical about this. but, you can see what's happening there. there is a blood collection in this scenario that is on top of the brain pushing on the brain. and the thing, don, about the brain, unlike any other organ in the body, it's obviously encased in hard skull. so, it has nowhere to go, if it has this kind of pressure on it, pressure on the brain, on the brainstem. and then, ultimately, someone loses consciousness and they lose their ability to -- to breathe on their own, and they subsequently die. um, it's -- it's -- it's really -- it's sad. you know, and he was alone, it sounds like. maybe -- it may have been a pretty significant blow to the head. maybe, you know, fall in the
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bathroom or on the headboard of your bed or something like that. you don't think anything of it. small veins can tear as a result of that blow, and blood can start to leak. and over a few hours, it can accumulate. someone may lose consciousness and all the things i just mentioned sort of transpire. so, sad scenario. um, but it sounds like that is what the family is sort of describing here. >> being in the room that you are not familiar with, you know, going to the bathroom in the middle of the night. you trip or something, and you go right back to bed. and just hike -- but just like hitting your headboard, right, with your bed. if you are laying back and you hit the headboard, would that -- that's not hard enough to cause that, is it? >> i wouldn't think so. no. i mean, there is a couple things, you know, just from a trauma neurosurgery standpoint. i do want to know if someone was on blood thinners, for example. if someone's on blood thinners, that may make them more likely to bleed with a less significant blow. but i think this was probably a
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pretty significant to the head. but as you mentioned, may have fell, slipped and hit the back of my head. that really hurt but i didn't lose consciousness. i feel okay. if someone were around and saying, hey, look, do you have a headache? is that headache worsening? the person appears confused, they are slurring speech, becoming nauseated or even vomiting. things like that. those would all be indicators that something is happening, that you obviously should get checked out quickly. but again, being alone, not being certain just how significant a blow to the head did i -- did i just take just go to bed. that's, again, sad but it sounds like what happened here. >> is it common, sanjay? does this happen a lot? we don't hear about it because it's not a celebrity? >> it's -- it's -- yes, i think it's far more common than people realize, these types of subdural, these types of blood collections on the brain. they can occur in a very acute, sudden way, like it sounds with -- with bob saget. they can be sort of -- sort of slower. the blood can be slower accumulating, accumulate over dies and weeks and they can even be chronic.
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sometimes, we have older patients, patients who are quite old may have hit their head on the frame of the car as they are getting inside. and again, they think that hurt. they don't think anything of it and then a couple of weeks later, they start to have symptoms. so, when you look at all those categories of those types of brain bleeds, they are not uncommon. but the situation that seems to have happened with -- with bob saget. that's -- you know, i don't want to suggest that everyone who hits their head should immediately go get a ct scan. most do not need that, obviously but if it is a significant blow, you were on blood thinners. 65, not old but your brain does tend to shrink a bit as you get older so there is more room for that blood to accumulate. and again, symptoms. worsening headaches, confusion, nausea, vomiting, slurring of speech, things like that that are unusual, should definitely get that checked out. >> you are right. it's really sad. thank you, sanjay. appreciate you joining us. >> you got it, don. thank you. so much for the art of the deal. the former president's much- much-touted trade deal with
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take this. a massive trade deal made by the self-proclaimed dealmaker, former president, it's more like no deal. a new report finds that china has fallen $213 billion short. yes, billion with a b. of its commitment to purchase u.s. goods and services in a 2020 deal made by former president trump. trump made sure everyone knew about the agreement. >> i told china a couple of months ago, do me a favor. we're going to make a deal. start buying. start buying. >> i think the biggest thing about getting the deal with china, number one, it's a great deal for us. it's an important deal for china because they were -- you know, their supply chains were breaking.
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>> we are doing deals like the great china deal. we'll be taking it -- $250 billion. >> everybody said you'll never make a deal with china. i made a deal with china. it's a great deal. >> kept slinging. people kept buying it. and it was quite literally a big deal. really, it made headlines here on cnn and around the world. it was set to be just phase one of trade agreements with china. so you probably would have thought it was a guarantee, right? but it didn't happen. beijing had promised to purchase $200 billion more in american exports than it had in 2017. and it required that the commitments were met by the end of the year. that deadline was missed. now president biden is suggesting that he is leaving trump-era tariffs on china in place because they didn't meet their commitments. so it looks like there just wasn't enough art in trump's deal. next, was there classified information at mar-a-lago?
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classified documents mishandled. "the new york times" is reporting tonight the national archives had discovered what could be classified materials in the records the former president took with him when he left the white house. records which were returned last month. also this hour a trump supporter who went to a stop the steal rally -- or stop the steal rallies and was at the capitol on january 6th now calling it a cult. >> so after january the 6th i came here, and i kept mumbling, i feel like i just got out of a cult. >> and confronting racism in professional football.

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