well, that's it for us tonight. i'll be back tomorrow. "don lemon tonight" with don lemon starts right now. >> so how do you lock up this one? plug your toilet? >> you can't help but step right in it. i challenge you to how much you'll have to step right in it and go down the drain. >> how does that thing go, throw your troubles down the drain!

roto rooter. that was roto rooter. ♪ roto reooter that's the name ♪ throw your troubles down the drain. >> that's laura coates right there. >> i love it, i'll do it. >> we're joking around about it, but every day it seems we up the ante. it was classified, now it's top secret. just so much hypocrisy, so much irony in all of this. i wonder when it ends. maybe it just never ends. >> i got to tell you, sometimes i think to myself, if this was a show that wasn't the news but a series, i would be like, this can't be this, this can't be that. you turn the station and you realize this is actually what's happening. i tell you, the january 6 committee, i can't imagine what

they're thinking and what they're trying to decipher. i'm waiting for the public hearings and all that synthesis of what they actually found. i want to know. >> yeah. jump the toilet. thank you, laura. ztz >> good night. >> i'll see you tomorrow. thanks so much. before we start, i just want to say congratulations to my colleague anderson cooper. now i'm getting all thielese te and e-mails, are you next? thanks, anderson. kidding, i'm very happy for you. thank you for joining us. an hours-long gap in the white house phone logs, an hours-long gap. documents reportedly and repeatedly -- we were just talking about this, laura and i, flushed down the toilet. documents marked top secret taken to mar-a-lago down south to palm beach instead of where they're supposed to be, right,

with the archives. just another day in the trump white house. records, schmecords, everyone. it's not surprising, but it is shocking he gets away with so many norms all over the place. some documents the former president reportedly took with him when he left mar-a-lago in disgrace, some of those were clearly marked classified, and some at the top secret level. it's unclear who packed those boxes. the former president was very secretive about the packing, didn't want anyone, aides or anything, to look in those boxes. what about the gap in the white house phone logs? what about that? call records now in possession of the committee investigating january 6 show no record of calls to or from the then-president from the time he returned to the white house after his speech , at the rally

at the ellipse. watch. >> and we fight. we fight like hell. and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore. >> that is his taped rose garden statement. roll it. >> go home. we love you. you're very special. you've seen what happens. you see the way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. i know how you feel. >> he knows how you feel. sources say the committee hasn't drawn any final conclusions about the gap in the records. they say maybe personal cell phones were being used? which was common in the trump white house, right? after so much consternation about using personal devices with candidate hillary clinton. so maybe personal cell phones were used or maybe the archives will find more records, okay? but the gap raises a lot of

questions, because if there's one thing we know about the former president, it is that his phone calls are perfect. remember that perfect call with the president of ukraine, the one that led to his first impeachment? and remember what he said about hillary clinton? >> people who have nothing to hide don't smash phones with hammers, they don't. people who have nothing to hide don't bleach -- nobody has ever heard of it -- don't bleach their e-mails or destroyed evidence to keep it from being publicly archived as required under federal law. >> people with nothing to hide don't flush papers down the toilet. what about her e-mails? what about her e-mails? what about his phone calls? what about his phone calls? where is the big front page news above the fold?

where is that? and then there's maggie haberman reporting in her new book "confidence man: the making and breaking of donald trump." the title says it all. they periodically found wet paper flooding the toilets in the white house. would you believe the former president denies it all? in a statement, categorically untrue and written by a reporter trying to sell a book. he also said he took documents on a very friendly basis. but as he fights the january 6 committee at every turn, liz

cheney saying this, those who don't want the truth of january 6 to come out have predictably resorted to attacking the process -- claiming it is tainted and political. our hearings will show this charge to be wrong. we are focused on facts, not rhetoric, and we will present those facts. she said he should have been held accountable for his actions. she said she was speaking out strongly against the president. >> i've been speaking out so strongly against the president, against these qanon theories that have led us to this crisis. it's just wrong and we need to

put a stop to it. >> you know that little noise luke the tape going forward, that's what it did today. president trump's endorsement of her primary opponent, nancy mays, stood out in front of trump tower. remember when he said he could shoot somebody on the street and not lose any voters? she stood up and said this. >> i'm outside trump tower today. i remember in 2017 when president trump announced efrs go -- he was going to run. i worked in seven different states across the country to help get him elected. >> someone give her a glass of water. thirsty, thirsty. live thirsty. she went on to lavish praise on him without even mentioning january 6 and what he did that day. that is our brand new cnn poll that finds the growing number of

americans don't think the elections today reflect the will of the people. that's exactly what they were trying to do, right? get people not to trust the process, not to trust institutionso over that whole five-year period, six-year period in the running, attacking the constitution, the electoral process and on and on. get people not to trust it so they could run rampant and they could lie, mostly him, but the republican party became him. 66% of respondents said they have no kconfidence that reflec the will of the people. that's exactly what they wanted. about half think it's likely that the future elections in the united states will be overturned for partisan reasons. sad. let's discuss now. cnn special correspondent jamie gangel is here and john dean. before i talk about support in

the white house, jamie, isn't that exactly what they were trying to do over the last five years or so, get people not to trust institutions, not to trust the electoral process because the truth was not on their side, so they had to get people to do that? >> and now there's a different kind of truth that we have in all of this. i just want to say that today of all days, i just find it remarkable maggie mahaberman's reporting about flushing these papers down, because we heard from day one that he was ripping up papers, that staffers had to run in and get it out of the wastebasket and tape it back together. when he knew that, he didn't want people to be taping those papers back together. flushing them down the toilet, we do not know what his intent was, but it certainly was a way

to circumvent the system, get around the presidential records act, and it certainly looks guilty. >> john, let's talk about this, because the "washington post" says some of the trump records taken from mar-a-lago were marked classified. there were manhandled records, ripped-up records, plus the details jamie mentioned out of maggie haberman's new book that documents were flushed down the toilet. trump denies that but what questions do you have about all this? why would he be flushing documents? >> it just doesn't sound right, obviously, don. i think it speaks for itself. he's a man who has just ignored all the rules, standards, norms of the process. he doesn't obey the law. he just doesn't give a hoot. he's going to do what he wants to do when he wants to do it. now, those classified documents could cause him some problem.

while he has plenary power as president to declassify or classify material, it'at 12:00 n on the 20th of january, he lost that power. he was sitting on hot documents down there, and it's a critical question. it raises national security issues. i think the justice department can't look away this time. they have to take a look at this issue. >> as a former white house counsel, john, top secret is no joke. jared kushner couldn't get top security clearance until trump overruled officials. so trump took white house documents to his golf club. that is no joke. >> that is no joke. we have a four-star general, petraeus, who damn near got himself a felony, but he didn't, he made a deal for a misdemeanor for letting his biographer look

at his classified notebooks. and that's a pretty -- that could have been a very serious offense. he had to resign from the cia and it certainly dampened any potential of him becoming president. so these things do have consequences for most people. >> jamie, talk to us about -- i'm wondering if this means anything, if it means they were using personal devices, this gap in phone call records and call records to the then-president during the riot? >> here's a reporting. what do we know about donald trump, don? he loves to talk on the phone. he was up in the residence every night normally talking to people all night long on the phone. what is notable here is, as you said, there is a three-hour-plus gap where there do not seem to be any recorded phone calls from the official record. i'm not talking about someone calling him and not getting him, i'm talking about the kind of

phone call where two people were talking to each other. so we know there were phone calls during this time. we know that he had a shouting match with kevin mccarthy during the riot. we know that he reached out and reached senator mike lee on his phone. so why don't the white house official records reflect this? two possibilities, one you just said. he was using a personal cell phone, which has been a huge problem since day one. or he was using personal cell phones of aides, which he did a lot. dan scavino or his body man nick luna. that was very typical behavior. i just want to repeat what john dean just said about rules. what all of this says is he wasn't following the rules. a former trump white house official said to me this week he didn't think the rules applied to him, and that trickled down

to everyone around him. >> also, there is another possibility that we have to add in there, jamie. they could find more records. >> absolutely. there may be more records coming, or let me add one other possibility. we have had a lot of reporting that he was transfixed watching the riot on tv, rewinding the button. >> and nobody could get to him. he didn't talk to anybody. >> correct. and we know, for example, chris christie tried four different ways to reach him and couldn't get through, was told he wasn't available. so maybe he was just watching tv. >> gotcha. john, how does this compare to the missing 18.5-minute gap on the nixon watergate tapes? is that a fair comparison or doesn't compare? >> it's a tough comparison. first of all, we don't have all the facts on why this information is missing. that is largely a manually constructed log and the president's daily diary, while a lot of it today is automated,

there is still an archive staffer who is there a ssemblin that document. so the 18.5-minute gap was just a mistake at the end of the process of producing tapes they said they would produce. the president had just fired the special prosecutor and then relented and started turning over tapes, and oops, two of them are missing. one has an 18.5-minute gap. the other one happens to be the conversation i said i thought i was recorded on, and they disappear. so they've made a big story, but we've never found out the guilty party or who did it. >> jamie, let me ask you, since you were talking about the phone and him using other people's -- >> right. >> could the committee end up subpoenaing donald trump's personal phone records? >> it's a really interesting question. it's been apparent, i really think, for political reasons going after a former president that they have been reticent to do it. but the chairman of the

committee, benny thompson, has not ruled it out, and i think there is a high bar. but if they think there is something incriminating, a smoking gun, i would not rule out that they would look at that. >> all right. thank you both. i appreciate it. i'll see you soon. be well. news tonight on the death of bob saget. there are very surprising results. surprising results in his autopsy report just revealed. our dr. sanjay gupta is here to talk about it. that's next. ever get a sign the ununiverses trying to tell you something? the clues are all around us! not that one. that's the one. at university of phoenix, you could earn your master's degree in less than a year for unde$11k. learn re at phoenix.edu.

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tonight we're learning much more about the cause of bob saget's death. the autopsy report showed the actor and comedian died from blunt head trauma, saying he likely fell backwards and struck the back of his head. the report also shows saget tested positive for covid-19 and suffered from an enlarged head. let's get the medical side from chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. dr. gupta, thank you so much for joining us.

what more have we learned from the autopsy documents? >> i think you know compared to last night, we're getting more information about just how significant these injuries were. i mean, this was not sort of a simple bump on the head. there was this sort of concern lars night that maybe he hit his head sort of on the headboard of the bed or something like that, didn't recognize the severity of it, went to sleep and had this bleeding on his brain. that sequence of events still seems to be plausible, but just the extent of injuries, don, i think is far more than certainly was originally conveyed. let me show you here. we put this together, don, to give you an idea of just how many fractures we're talking about here. as you point out, there was an abrasion on the back of his head and also a fracture on the back of his head. in the yellow, that fracture sort of extended to the right side of his head, but then he also had fractures on the front just above his eyes as well. the orbital rims, as they're called. let me show you on this, don, if you can see this skull. so imagine this, somebody falls,

they hit here, abrasion over here, significant blow, like falls down, significant blow, fracture extends into the right side of the head over here. that's all possible from one mechanism, but then also fractures in the front over here just above the eyes. if i didn't know anything else about this, i would say is this someone who was unrestrained in a car accident? is this someone who fell down a flight of stairs, for example, or something like that? when we look at this from a neurosurgical perspective, there is a few different things we're trying to figure out. what was the mechanism of injury? the fall, car accident, what was it? but ultimately energy of the injury. how much energy was actually put on the skull and the brain. and what we can say from that pattern of injuries as outlined in the autopsy report, it was a significant, significant blow to the head. we don't know, again, exactly what caused that. it also does not appear he was on blood thinners, something we talked about last night which could make the bleeding worse.

but from that force alone, there was enough to cause fractures of the skull and bleeding on top of the brain. >> let me just ask you, you said blood thinners. that was a prescription drug he was on, no alcohol in the system, right? just how common is something like this? does it happen often? i asked you that last night, but from what you know today, this sort of, as you said, significant blow. >> this is the idea if someone was in a hotel room and slipped and fell, or hit their head on a cabinet, a headboard or something causing this kind of injury, i think, would be very unusual. if there was something else where he fell flat on his back and also on the side of his head and that caused this pattern of injuries, perhaps. but it also seems like he was at least lucid enough to maybe even have had a conversation and get into bed after that. so it's a little bit hard to piece together. this is certainly someone if he had come into the hospital, to

the emergency room, would have gotten a cat scan and most likely an operation to try and take that pressure off of this. if you look at, you know, these types of head injuries across the board, people have significant head injuries who then develop some amount of bleeding on top of the brain or within the brain, it happens in about a quarter of the time. but, again, this was not just a simple blow to the head. i think that that's what we can say. it was significant. it really was an unprotected, it seems, blow to the head, maybe falling straight on his back. but still how does one get fractures above the orbits over here at the same time? was there some back and forth to the head at that time? it's tough to talk about. it's so sad, don, just the overall whatever happened here. and we may never know for certain what happened. but this would not be something that you would expect just from, again, a simple blow to the

head. something more significant happened here. >> boy, oh, boy. doctor, thank you, i appreciate it. >> thank you. former president obama addressing house members behind closed doors today. congreressman allred, next. wahoooo! (vo) you can be w well-groomed. or even well-spoken. (man) ooooooo. (vo) but there's just something about being well-adventured. (vo) adventure has a new look. discover more in the all-new subaru forester wilderness. love. it's what makes subaru, subaru. get help managing your money for the life -- and years -- ahead. with fidelity income planning,

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obama holding a private virtual town hall with house democrats today. it comes with president biden's legislative agenda stalled and worrying poll numbers with the party hoping to keep the congress this fall. congressman allred is here who was a part of that meeting. congressman allred, thank you for joining me. your political party facing plenty of headwinds right now. former president barack obama rallied the troops, encouraging you all to tap your progress this year. is that the strategy going forward into midterms? >> well, he basically told us we had to get out of our defensive crouch. we had to talk about what we've done, and as our current president would say, don't judge us against the almighty, judge us against the alternative. we had to talk about what's happening on the other side as well. we've done a lot already in this year, i think, to set us up in position where we now have the lowest unemployment, lowest job

poverty rates in decades, to the bipartisan infrastructure bill, we have a lot to talk about and tell people about. but we have things we haven't done, like the voting rights bill, but let's talk about what we have done. >> there are folks in the party who aren't necessarily touting, or at least saying what the president hasn't done for them, he hasn't done this, he hasn't done that. was everyone on the same page? were there any questions for him? >> there are a lot of questions. but, you know, i think we all know that president obama knows a few things about winning elections. he knows a little bit about running as an incumbent on your record. everybody, i think, was listening with rapt attention. that said, democrats have a tendency sometimes to talk about all the things we didn't get in the bill rather than what we did

get in the bill, or accomplishments we're still fighting for rather than accomplishments we have achieved. that's what we need to do now because we really have done a lot for the american people. the reason you can go to a cvs and get your vaccine for free is because of the american rescue plan. we cut poverty in half with the american rescue plan. we'll be having a bipartisan election bill and this president did get it and this house will pass it. i think we'll be speaking more from the same hymnbook on that, but ultimately it's up to the american people, of course. >> so you think they'll see it the same as you. you believe that? >> i think so. we're appealing to the broadest segment. >> i understand that, and that's all well and good, but in order to win, you have to tout your accomplishments and democrats have to fall in line.

you believe everybody is on the same page with this? >> i do. we're getting into the agonize, don't organize phase of this. even some of the more strident voices in our party know we have to tout our accomplishments. yes, keep fighting, but make sure the american people know what we've done. it's hard to break through, and we recognize how frustrating this time is for the american people. i've had two young kids who had to be home at times because of covid exposure in the classroom. it's extremely difficult to still be in this pandemic. but we're going to get out of it and we're beating it because of what we've done. the other side wants to take it in a very different direction. >> did barack obama have anything to say about the current president, president biden? >> of course he did. he talked about how much they have done. i think he referenced the aca fight and how it took some time for the american people to really understand what was in the affordable care act and how

maybe he wishes that they had done more to tout some of the things they did with their rescue plan to get us out of the recession we were in and how they saved the american economy and how they really didn't tout that until he ran for reelection in 2012. there are some lessons for us to learn from that, because sometimes you're so busy governing and doing the job of the american people, trying to deliver for them, you don't stop and pause and really tell people what you've done, so they may not know that. we know in this environment with everything going on with covid and everything around the world, we have to be the ones to carry that message. >> congressman, president biden is putting out a new stark warning about ukraine tonight. i want to ask you about that, but listen first. >> american citizens should leave, should leave now. we're dealing with one of the largest armies in the world. this is a very different situation and things could go crazy quickly. >> congressman, we're seeing

russia building more troops along the border. you were part of the russian delegation to ukraine. what's your read on the situation? >> the president is echoing the state department which already told americans and ukraine, if you're able to leave -- most of the folks who are still there are duel citizens who live there and they may not follow that advice. but it is an extremely dangerous position we're in right now. russia is continuing to build up their troop presence around ukraine. they're doing exercises right now with belarus right next to some of our nato allies who are very nervous about that and they're showing so much aggressive intent and they're really not giving us much in terms of the diplomatic offramp we hope would work. it's very concerning but we've been very clear with our allies in the eu and our allies in nato that if russia doesn't do this, the consequences for them will be so dire that -- this is going to be a strategic failure for him whether he goes in or not.

whether he crosses that border or not, vladimir putin is going to emerge weaker from this because he has united us in a way that really no one else could. >> congressman, i want to talk to you about this new poll that cnn has out today. 56% of americans say they have little or no confidence in elections will reflect the will of the people. and when you dig in, mistrust among democrats and independents is up by double digits from skjust a year ago. trump supporters believe the big lie, but why are democrats growing less confident in elections? >> i think they're seeing we have not been able to pass legislation to try and protect the right to vote, and they're seeing the ongoing attempts in their states, like my state here in texas, to undermine the right to vote, so they're very worried. but, you know, again, i come back to this concept that we have to keep fighting for this, but we have to organize here and not agonize. we have to do everything we can to understand if they're working this hard to try to make it hard

for americans to vote, why are they trying to do that? it's because your vote is so powerful. and i really believe that together we can overcome some of these barriers that have been put in place. now, the other issue, of course, i think you were concerned with is election subversion, which means no matter what we do to get out to vote, they may change the vote afterwards. in that case i do think there is some good news around senate negotiations on the electoral count act, and i think we will be able to fix that so they won't be able to overturn the election, say, in 2024 as easily. 2022 is one where we may see attempts to do that as well. i've got a lot of legislation iver introduced that is on the senate bill that didn't quite get through. i'm hoping we can come back to those as individual stand-alones. it's about elections that are stolen after the fact. that should be an american principle we all agree on. >> congressman, thank you. appreciate it. >> thanks, don. protesters in canada slowing

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>> the failure, the failure of the occupied wall street movement. >> but now when they look north, they love what they see. >> right now we're being led by canadian truckers. >> that's will kane dissing the u.s. >> the truckers are still going strong tonight and it's spreading all over the world. >> now they're asking where is the american protest? >> the question is how long till protests like this come here? >> will we need our own trucker rally to end this instanty once and for all? >> is the trucker insanity coming to america? >> it provoked fox news to say, i haven't seen a trucker will a protest into existence since the lead-up to january 6. it's happening on other networks, too. >> look at that, folks. the fight continues up in

canada. >> news hyping it every hour, and ultimately exaggeratiing it scope. >> cnn's fact check pointed out that many false claims about the size of the convoy have been making the rounds. on fox it sure looks huge, with banners saying, freedom convoy captivates the world. >> they're here for freedom. >> and sean hannity endorsing the group. >> we support what they're doing. >> sean sends a message. he sends a message. he says, we are standing beside you, he is standing beside you. >> how might fox treat a blockade by a different kind of group? well, we don't have to wonder. these reports are from past episodes of hannity's show. >> for a while they stood in the middle of an intersection blocking traffic. >> they were blocking traffic and some cars were trying to get through. >> they're not allowed to block traffic and yet they've been doing it now for about an hour. >> suffice it to say hannity is not playing traffic cop during

this protest. look, this is people power in action in canada. it's a big story. but right wing media in the u.s. is only telling one side of that story. they're talking all about freedom, but freedom for some canadians is instilling fear in others. it is complicated. but fox's biggest stars are making it sound simple and they want to see this kind of trucker protest happen now in the united states. they want to see it here, stateside. don? >> all right, brian, thank you so much. officials are warning of protest and disruptions here in the united states this weekend. what do they need to do now to be ready? we're going to talk about that next. y! i put it on once... no more touch-h-ups! because e this stick actually works! secret had ph balancing minerals; and it helps eliminate odor, instead of just masking it. so no more t-rex waves or covering up stinky pits when you're not cold. pull it in close. just trust me. secret works.

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the list of states rolling back covid restrictions keeps growing. nevada's governor announcing an end to his state's mask mandate effective immediately, but the house and the cdc still warning they believe it's too soon to go back to normal. joining now to discuss former fda commissioner dr. mark mcclellan. most counties throughout the use are still seeing high community transmission, so who is right here? is it too soon to be dropping mandates? >> well, don, good to be with you especially with cases coming down as much as they are. the case level are still higher than they were back in that delta surge last winter, but they are definitely on a strong downward trajectory. the hospitalizations are lagging now, so it's understandable people are ready to move on. there are still -- even though the states are dropping mandates

there's still an ability for local areas, counties, cities, to keep mandates in place. don, i think the main thing to watch out for at this point is those case rates keep falling and we're ready the next time if they go up again. in the meantime people do want to get more to a sense of normalcy, and they can do that while still taking some reasonable precautions. >> let's talk about the white house today recommending even in states where mandates are lifted people should keep following cdc guidelines on masking. so how about anyone who might be confused here or unsure of the people around them? is one-way masking effective doctor? >> one way masking is effective in protecting you and protecting people around you. the risks now are lower than they were. they may go up again in the future, hopefully not. but in the meantime there's still a lot of few step we have in place that can help protect you. first of all, hopefully you're vaccinated and you're boosted.

if you're due for that, that is the single biggest thing you can do to make sure a case of covid doesn't turn into anything more serious. in addition to that things like good ventilation, keeping some distance, other things can also help protect you. >> covid facts on the ground are changing. more people are vaccinated. there's now an estimated 90% immunity and kppolitical leader and public health experts are trying to reduce these restrictions. now some on the right are saying mandates and vaccines were never needed in the first place. listen to this from the fox prop r propaganda network. >> over the course of less than a week the same people who systematically turned america into a quarantine camp suddenly out of nowhere started call in unison for medical freedom. you should know this virus was killed not by science but by the mid-term election. it turns out the only real cure for covid-19 is the political

ambition of the democratic party. >> doctor, why does everything have to be reduced to politics, all or nothing? i mean us and them? >> well, that's a good question, don. i hope and i really appreciate what you're trying to do to help people recognize the circumstances are changing. as you said we've got a lot more immunity than we used to. we also have tests you can get. if you have symptoms free tests are available. you can figure out very quickly if you've got covid or not, and we also have treatments. so for people who even aren't vaccinated or let those vaccinations lapse or high risk, that can help, too. so we're in a very different place than we were a year ago or three months ago. that's why it's important to recognize it's okay to change what we're doing but still keep some precautions in place. so really that middle ground. >> right. in large part that immunity comes from the fact we have a vaccine that is helping people with -- with the immunity. let's talk a little bit more,

dig into what you said because this new polling from cnn that finds americans split on whether it's time to live with the pandemic or keep the focus on stopping the spread. other folks who say we should focus on stopping the spread, only 9% are very confident that we can. do you think there's a grudging acceptance now that people who remain vaccine hesitant are just unreachable? >> i think it's going to be hard to get the numbers up to 100%. i do think we can get vaccinate rates up further. we still have some room to increase vaccinations for kids especially. and since we want to get rid of the mask mandate in school and give kids a chance for the first time for having normal learning in a couple of years, getting vaccination to kids, getting information about that will make a difference. and we're still seeing, don, vaccination rates going up a bit at some workplaces as we have local efforts and people getting answers and seeing more experience with the vaccines. but, again, we don't have to depend on vaccines alone at this

point. besides immunity we also have tests you can get quickly. we also have treatments that work if you have symptoms or if you're in a risk group or haven't been vaccinated. all of that can help even if we don't get rid of the cases completely, which i don't think we will. all that can help us from having hospitalizations and other big disruptions in our lives from here on out. but we do need to take some steps to live with the new normal. >> doctor, i was looking at this new report. before you go i want to ask you about the cdc publishing new guidelines for opioid prescriptions, the first time since 2016. they removed the prescription dosages -- restrictions i should say on dosages because so many opioid -- of so many opioid deaths. doctors complained because of untreated pain, withdrawal, even overdose. what do these new guidelines mean for patients? what's going on here? >> well, for patients it means talk to your doctor. the guidelines also emphasize

that there are a lot of alternatives available for opioids for controlling pain. we've got -- they're not perfect options. i wish we could do more to control pain without any side effects, but there are options available. and for people in certain circumstances where there aren't alternatives for opioids and there are steps in place to prevent risk of addiction or the consequences of addiction, opioids can be very helpful. but it's important to remember as the new guidelines say these medications come with risks. important to talk to your doctor about alternatives as well. >> all right. thank you, dr. mcclellan. i appreciate it. >> good to be with you. , you know, it seems like everything costs more right now. everything takes longer to get. president biden facing tough questions tonight about it. we're going to tell you what he's saying after this. so when my windshield cracked, i chose safelite. they replaced the glasass and recalibrated my safety system. that's service i can trust.

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