good evening. i wanted to start off with good news, which also happens to be personal loose. in april, 2020, you may recall, i announced the birth of my son, why it's. these are the pictures i showed him why it taken just days after he was born. this is wyatt today. he is sweet and funny and the greatest joy in my life. if he looks particularly happy in this picture, he has a baby brother. his name is sebastian. this is sebastian luke cooper.

he is healthy and happy. even his occasional hiccups are, to me, adorable. he mostly just sleeps and eats and , but he already seems like a wise and thoughtful little chap. wyatt, and now sebastian, are raised by me and my partner. benjamin will adopt wyatt. wyatt helped us put together sebastian's crib. sebastian is a mouthful for a 22 month old. we want to thank the amazing

doctors and nurses who helped bring sebastian into the world, and thanks to the surrogate who carried sebastian and gave birth to him. the love they came sebastian this past year has been extraordinary. we will never forget the extraordinary kindness and austere gets to help bring new life and new love into the world. when i announced wyatt escobar, i said i would like to imagine my mom and dad and brother, all who are no longer alive, joyful at his birth. these last 22 months, i felt them watching over us, and i feel your love for sebastian. the family i was born into may gone, but i feel them alive with the family we have created. before he died, my dad rope, life itself, is brief. we are, all of us, separately

and together engaged in the same tough journey. each of us have a taste of its joys and sorrows. each of us to gets by. we reach out tentatively to touch with our hands, our eyes, and with our hearts. we missed wish for each other love and laughter, good thoughts , and happy days. we must go rejoicing with the blessings of this world, chief of which is the mystery, the magic, the majesty, and the miracle of life. i will be taking off the rest of this week and next week as well, and frankly i wish you all love and laughter, good thoughts, and happy days. going to turn things over to john berman, father of two, for the rest of the day's news. john? >> i don't know how you got through that. i didn't get through that. that is so lovely. he is beautiful, anderson. >> thanks. >> he is perfect. congratulations. >> thank you. >> to all of you. what a wonderful blessing. >> i appreciate it. thank you. yeah. you -- you have two boys that are teenagers. any -- any suggestions?

recommendations? >> i have twins so i screwed everything up all at once, like every step of the way. is it easier this time around? >> um, i mean, he is just arrived so i really have no idea. it is definitely more -- yeah -- definitely, calmer than i was the first time. and uh, yeah, he is doing great. and he is just so adorable, and he's got a lot more hair than wyatt had when he was born and, um, yeah, he is just incredible. >> so how is wyatt doing with it? what is his reaction? >> he is thrilled. i mean, you know, he's 2 -- almost 22 months old so he calls him luke and he helped build the crib. um, and he loves to wheel him around in a little stroller around my house. that's wyatt helping out with the crib there. um, you know, but beyond that, he sort of does his own thing. so, it's -- it's the best response i could possibly have hoped for. >> so -- so sleep because -- this, i resented you for this. i mean, wyatt sleeps like 12 hours a night. >> he does.

>> it was three years before we had a full-night sleep here. what is sebastian's sleep deal? >> so far, he is sleeping all the time so, you know, it is hard for me to get a sense of what it is going to be like but he wakes up every three hours and we feed him. i can't tell what color his eyes are. they seem dark but also seem blue. and yeah, he is just -- he is -- he's really sweet. he is just adorable. >> um, you know, honestly, it would be unfair to every parent out there if you didn't have a kid who woke up every few hours for at least a year. >> yeah. it is pretty amazing. i can't believe it. >> i have to say, there is nothing better than being the parent of brothers. i love every minute of it. >> yeah. >> well, i also just wanted to -- to say last when i announced wyatt's birth, i got a tremendous outpouring of cards and letters, which i -- i really appreciate. i wasn't able to respond to all of them. i tried to respond to them. i got a lot of gifts and books and clothes and handmade bl

blankets and beautiful things, all of which i appreciate and have either kept or given away to -- to kids who don't have as much. and i would just -- you know, anybody who is thinking about sending something for -- for sebastian, i really appreciate it but we have tons of books and i would hope that anyone wants to send something, they would send something to a local organization that helps parents who don't have as much when their kids arrive. so, um, but yeah. thank you for all your well wishes. >> and i -- i can't take my eyes off him. he is perfect. go run. run home. get back to him as quickly as you can. >> yeah. thanks so much. >> right. thanks so much, anderson, congratulations. there is more "360" ahead. we'll be right back. thanks to realtor.com's home alerts we were able to see the newest homes on the market, super fast. so we could finally buy our first "big boi house." big boi house. big boi kitchen! big boi waterfall shower! big boi crawl space. big boi sold sign, big boi logo.

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documents the former president improperly took to mar-a-lago. "the washington post" citing two people familiar with the matter is reporting that some were clearly marked classified, including the sources say at the top secret level. once more, quoting the post here, some markings it was extremely sensitive, and would be limited to a small group of people with authority to view such highly classified information. on top of other reporting today that one when the former president wasn't squirrelling them up, he might have also been clogging a white house toilet with them. that story, reported by cnn political analyst maggie haberman for her upcoming book confidence man has certainly launched plenty of bad jokes but to the extent it is part of a pattern in a series of related stories, this takes a darker tone. in addition to the breaking news, there is reporting from maggie and her colleagues at "the new york times," as well as cnn's jamie gangel, both of whom were joining us tonight. a potential gaps in white house

call records from january 6th. couple that with everything else we already know about the way the former president operates, and, well, there is nothing am amusing about any of this or normal. whether it's criminal remains to be seen. at a minimum, it is all pretty rich coming from a man who once said this about hillary clinton. >> people who have nothing to hide don't smash phones with hammers. they don't. 33,000 e-mails disappeared. >> she also -- and her staff -- destroyed some of her 13 different phones but, this time, with a hammer. >> if i got a subpoena for e-mails, if i deleted one e-mail like a love note to melania, it's the electric chair for trump. people who have nothing to hide don't bleach. nobody's ever heard of it. don't bleach their e-mails or destroy evidence to keep it from

being publicly archived as required under federal law. >> spoken like a man who would never habitually rip up documents, one step ahead of staffers frantically trying to scotch tape them back together. or for that matter, flush them. but come to think of it, he has never been on good terms with modern toilets. >> we have a situation where we are looking very strongly at sinks and showers. and other elements of bathrooms. >> sinks. showers. what goes with a sink and a shower? >> people are flushing toilets ten times, 15 times as opposed to once. >> i hate to say the thee things. it's the shower. it's the sink and you know the third element of the bathroom. but i don't say it because every time i say it, they only talk about that one. ten times, right? ten times. not me, of course not me. but you. him. we won't talk about toilets but

you know that. ten, 15. but we don't talk about that because it's sort of gross to talk about, right? so, i won't -- i won't talk about the fact that people have to flush their toilet 15 times. okay? i will not talk about it because i have said this three or four times. the only subject they ever talk about is toilets. so i don't mention. i will only talk about showers and -- okay -- but there is three things. >> again, it is easy to play this for yucks or icks, for that matter, but we are talking about someone who, in addition to fixations like that, has always shunned transparency and is now going ow awl out to stymie investigation of his conduct in office. it is a bit disappointing, though. in watergate, we had the plumbers to talk about. richard nixon's henchmen. tonight, we are just stuck with the plumbing. again, maggie haberman's book is titled "confidence man, the making of donald trump and the breaking of america." she joins us now. maggie, you have had quite a day. we laid out some of your

reporting there but can you just explain in more detail what was going on at the white house with these papers getting flushed? >> sure, john, so what was happening was that staff at -- in the white house residence where the president lived, you know, were discovering that the toilets were clogged and when engineers went to go see what was happening, there were clumped up wads of paper, you know, apparently notes or documents. it is not clear exactly what it was. it is not clear, you know, why it was happening but they believe that the former president was putting stuff in the toilet, and my understanding is it was not an isolated incident. this is an issue, you know, on a number of fronts. you know, for staff, this is going to sound minor, one is the white house is not a very modern building. plumbing was an issue. but the other is obviously, you know, the question of what the material was. i don't want to suggest that i have been told what it was. you know, the staff who were familiar with this did not know specifically what the material was. you know, there was obviously a lot of speculation.

but regardless, you know, it is going to add to questions about how material was handled while the former president was in office. >> so, the former president is not surprisingly die denying this. but you say not an isolated incident. is it clear how often? and was it during the entire length of the presidency? >> the way it was described to me was periodically. it was -- i don't know if it was the entire length of the presidency. it was certainly more than once. uh, some staff said that this happened on at least one foreign trip. but again, i don't -- you know, i -- there may have been additional incidents. those are the ones that i am aware of. i am aware the former president has issued a statement denying it. i stand by the reporting. >> so, maggie, one of the things your book, first of all, looks at the -- the entire range of donald trump's career, not just the presidency. and i do understand there was a tendency to destroy documents in various ways. i don't know if flushing was one of them before he was president, during, after. but certainly, when he was president, he ripped stuff up.

he rarely sent e-mails. you know, texts, for that matter. i guess, what i am asking is what are the chances that if there is any evidence or there might not be any evidence left behind of things that he was doing? >> i mean, look. john, there is clearly, you know, there is some documentation, even some of the ripped-up material was taped back together, although that has i think posed other challenges for archivists. so there is certainly a question. this is not someone, as you said, who was known to use e-mail. he did not really respond on texts. i know he did receive texts from people. i have never heard of him responding to one. you know, we had some reporting today at "the times" that the white house call logs from january 6th, for instance, appear to have gaps from when the investigators believe that he was on the phone with a number of people, it raises questions about what happened. there is no evidence, as we understand it, to suggest they were tampered with but it is a reminder that this former president often did not use the white house switchboard. he used other aides' phones. and so, you know, i -- i think

all of this has always been a challenge for people who are, at minimum, trying to preserve a record of a presidency that's obviously come into sharper focus with the january 6th commission. >> want to talk much more about those call logs and absence of calls in a moment. what do you make of this new reporting from wash post that some of trump's records were taken to ma la goe, they were clearly marked classified including documents at the top-secret level? >> so, i saw that report. we reported at "the times" last night that, you know, there is at least one document that was believed to be classified. uh, that was part of this trove of material that was returned to the archives. look again, i think it is going to raise questions. a -- a president has a right to declassify material. we just don't know that he actually did that, number one. and number two, there are questions about how this material was packed up. who had access to it? did they have clearances? and so, there is just a whole range of issues, you know, i

understand that there is a hlot of focus on did the former president, you know, destroy potentially a document that related to january 6th? i know that the committee has questions about that. i think that what we have seen over time and what we have been told by people who have worked for this former president over many decades is that it wasn't necessarily about hiding something. it was mostly just about not caring one way or the other or not mostly but sometimes it was about not caring one way or the other and i don't know we are ever going to know what the full answer is. i reiterate that i don't know we are ever going to have a complete-paper picture of what this presidency looked like. >> finally in your book, you also report that trump is apparently staying in touch with kim jong un. what more details do you have about that? >> i wrote -- i wrote that he -- i wrote that he says he has done that, john. i don't know that he actually still is in touch with kim jong un. but he has told several people that he is in touch with him. i was reminded by somebody who worked in the white house earlier today that trump would

often let on to people while he was president, that, you know, he had some kind of conversations, one on one, with -- with kju. that cashbinet officials couldn track down. i don't know this to be true. it is interesting he is saying it. >> fair enough. an important distinction. maggie haberman, terrific reporting. thanks so much for being with us tonight. >> thank you. now, more on the related question which we touched on briefly of what the house select committee is and isn't receiving to help them determine who the former president was talking to on january 6th. three sources familiar with the investigation tell cnn that the white house call records they have received leave them with gaps on that day. cnn special correspondent jamie gangel has that story and joins us now. jamie, tell us about the gaps in these phone records. >> so, john, just to be clear, as maggie just mentioned, there is no evidence. no one is suggesting that someone tampered with these logs. when they talk about gaps, what they are saying is there is a distinct period of time during

the day on january 6th during the riot. those three-plus hours where trump is back at the white house watching the reporting, is transfixed watching the television. that's where the logs are odd. it is notable. it is significant that, during this period of time, the white house' logs do not appear to show that made any calls out or any calls came in. these are people he actually would have spoken to. now, what does this mean? as maggie mentioned, trump, we have always known -- first of all, he likes to use his own personal cell phone. so that would not be in the logs. he very often uses the cell phone of a staffer, maybe dan scavino. maybe, his personal aide. the other possibility is that the archives do not have all the

paperwork, yet. we can't rule that out. but i think that the committee finds this very curious, and this is gonna be something they are really looking into because they want to know not just what trump was doing and not doing during the riot but who he was talking to and what he was saying, john. >> they want to know that. the question is how will they find out? do they have an appetite to -- to try to get the former president's phone records? >> so, this has been an issue. i think it is fair to say the committee has been reticent to subpoena those records. but when you see a gap like this come up, that is so significant at such a notable period of time, i think it is likely that they are going to revisit that question. there is, however, a real question about political will. do they want to go after a former president like this? it is a very high bar without

something very incriminating. more of a smoking gun. >> all right. jamie, stick around with us right now. i want to bring in former federal prosecutor. renato, you hear jamie's reporting about these gaps in call logs. so many unknowns, still. what questions would you want to see answered on this? >> i think you would want to know, first of all, what -- what phones was president trump use ong ing on that day. who he was in contact with. once they have either of those questions answered, the committee can then subpoena the phone records of those entities, of those people, and then use that to work backwards to try to create a log of what the former president was doing. you would also want to know, of course, were those -- was it willful? was it knowing that the president was -- was using -- former-president trump was using other phones to try to evade having a record of those phone calls made. >> jamie, what about the idea of working backwards there? is that something the committee is actively trying to do?

>> they -- they have been, and it has not been going very well. so, as we know, there are two people who were in the room with him. firsthand-fact witnesses that day. his aide, dan scavino. his former chief of staff, mark meadowings. meadows. the committee has gotten some documents from mark meadows that he handed over voluntarily. but both, scavino and meadows are -- have countersued, in effect. they have filed a lawsuit to prevent the committee -- the committee did subpoena their call detail records and they are fighting it. and that's as we know a question of timing. there is just so much time they have to do this lawsuit. >> so, i want to shift to the -- the story about the toilet in the residence there. the clogged toilet with papers, not toilet paper. the staff telling maggie haberman they assumed there was some kind of documents. you tweeted in part, flushing important evidence down the toilet is something drug dealers

do. end quote. have you ever heard of, like, politicians, pretty high-level politicians doing it? >> no, i actually never even heard of white-collar criminals doing it. usually, there is electronic records. people nowadays aren't using typewriters to generate documents, they are using computers. and so, the criminals that i used to investigate were -- were folks that understood that there was electronic records and the fight would be over the destruction of electronic records, not flushing evidence down the toilet, which is always a problem when you are investigating a case. >> but i guess, it requires -- you know, we talk about intent. when you flush something down a toilet, it requires intent. yes? you don't accidentally flush documents down a toilet. >> it -- it's -- it is so -- it is so vivid, that it's the sort of thing that would be very compelling to a jury if you knew exactly what those documents are. in other words, if this is some evidence that president trump was trying to hide something

very damning about himself by flushing it down the toilet, i can't think of more vivid evidence that would demonstrate a consciousness of guilt to -- to -- to a potential juror. >> one more thing. t "the washington post" is reporting the -- the presence of documents that were classified. maybe even top-secret level found at mar-a-lago. would something like this be on par with, say, you know, hillary clinton's classified e-mails? or use of private e-mail for classified matters? >> it certainly seems so. i have to say, i thought that that investigation was misguided, and i -- i have the same view here. in other words, that ultimately, i mean, perhaps it can be investigated but at the end of the day, generally, mr. colby was correct that -- that the federal government does not usually prosecute people for unwittingly, you know, removing classified information. the irony here is it may have been more willful here in this circumstance, and i guess the -- the facts are going to bear out

whether or not there was a willful removal of classified information from a secure location. if that was the case, there, of course, is a criminal statute that directly applies. >> jamie, the committee have enough on their hands already? >> the committee says their job is putting it all out there for history, that this is up to the justice department. but just to go back to those papers being flushed down the toilet. it sure does look guilty. i mean, whether it is a drug dealer or you catch your kids doing something, he was certainly had a pattern of circumventing and as one white house -- former-white house official who worked for trump said to me, he never -- he always felt the rules did not apply to him. >> jamie gangel, thank you so much for being with us tonight. >> thank you. next, we have breaking news on the death of beloved comedian bob saget. the autopsy report has come out.

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breaking news out of florida. confirming the sad reporting we first brought last night on the death of actor and comedian bob saget. according to the orange county medical examiner, he died of blunt head trauma most probably from a fall but there is a lot more detail we are seeing for the first time. our randi kaye has more on the autopsy report, and joins us now. randi, can you just take us through some of the details in

there? >> sure, john. this is from the orange county medical examiner. that is who did the autopsy. and the coroner lists quite a few conditions and injuries that bob saget had at the time of his death. he did say, as you said, that he died from blunt-head trauma. more specifically, the coroner says that saget likely suffered an unwitnessed fall backward, and struck the posterior aspect of his head but he said the manner of death, the coroner ruled the manner of death was an accident. but it does seem saget suffered quite a blow to his head. this wasn't just a bump and here is what's really interesting, john, and i hope that sanjay, when comes up here next, can talk a little about this because the autopsy lists several skull fractures, and one of those is in the bilateral frontal bone, which would be where the forehead is. so we have this massive trauma to the back of the head as the coroner said he likely fell backward. but then, there is this also

this trauma at the front of the head. so, i am hoping sanjay can sort of help us make sense of how that can happen if he did, indeed, fall backward as the coroner is suggesting. but saget also had subdural hematoma, which is a buildup of blood on the surface of the brain according to the autopsy. he had hemorrhaging or bleeding in between the -- the skull and the scalp. also, in the space that surrounds the brain. the autopsy said he had posterior scalp abrasions and discoloration in the upper and lower eyelids due to that skull fracture. and remember, john, that his wife had said that saget likely just hit his head. he didn't think much of it, and just likely went to bed that night. so again, really curious what sanjay will have to say about these findings now that we know them from the autopsy. >> so other than those injuries, randi, did bob saget appear healthy? >> well, he did test positive for covid. so when he died, he was positive. and he did have covid in december. so, it is unclear if this was a new infection or if it was just showing up in that test. also, the autopsy showed he had

an enlarged heart, and that one of the key arteries was 95% blocked, john. >> hmm. authorities had previously said there were no drugs or foul play. any update on that report? >> john, to be clear, i want to make this very clear. there is no indication in this autopsy at all or any suggestion of foul play whatsoever. but the autopsy does list several drugs that were found in his system, not recreational drugs. but they did find klonopin which is for seizures, panic disorders, and anxiety. also, they found trazodone which is often used as a sleep aid. but again, saget's wife, in her statement, said there were no drugs or alcohol involved and certainly no -- no recreational drugs were found in his system. but the coroner does list those prescription drugs found in his system, john, not at very high levels but they were there. >> randi kaye, thank you so much. let's get some answers to those questions that randi laid out there. cnn chief medical correspondent and neurosurgeon, dr. sanjay gupta here with that. so, sanjay, what about those questions and the extent of bob saget's injuries?

>> well, you know, when we look at these -- these types of injuries, i mean, you want to figure out if there is a m mechanism of injury that you can really identify and also the energy of the force of the injury. so, you know, mechanisms. car accidents, falls, things like that are what we typically think of. but then, also, how significant? if it was a car accident, how fact was the car going? if someone fell, how far did they fall? these are the sorts of things that we, you know, still don't know the answers to but when you look at these findings, as randi pointed out, um, these -- these were significant. this wasn't sort of a -- a -- a sort of more isolated or more casual bump of the head. this was something that involved several different fractures, and that takes a lot of force to actually cause these sorts of fractures. so we can show you graphics. we put this together, john, to just give you an idea of the different bones that were overall fractured in this graphic. it was the -- the back of the head. i will show you on the skull model here.

it was the -- back over here, this -- the -- the fracture. and then, it sort of extended into the right side, over here. there was an abrasion on the back of the head. so, that kind of fits with that. but as randi pointed out, there was also skull fractures over here, as well, in the front of the forehead. but there weren't abrasions here. there were some bruising over here. i talked to a lot of colleagues today and i have been doing trauma and neurosurgery for a long time. if i knew nothing about the story, i would say is this someone unrestrained in a car accident or fell down a flight of stairs because it does appear that there are several different sort of blows to the head. whatever it was, if -- it was a significant blow i think there was a lot of discussion yesterday, you know, how common is this? someone hits their head developing this sort of bleeding. this was not, again, a -- a small blow to the head. it -- it was significant to cause that degree, not only of fractures in these different places on the skull, but also the amount of bleeding, as well. >> and again, in more than one

place, apparently, or the actual impacts in more than one place, too. sanjay, thank you very much. >> thank you. just ahead. midterms for the democrats just got a lot tougher. bad poll numbers for the president and a big spike in the rate of inflation. james carville joins us to discuss what they need to do to salvage an uphill fight. we just moved. so there's millions of - dahlias in bloom. over nine acres. when we started, we grew a quarter of an acre. now i'm taking on new projects on the regular. we always dreamed of having this property, so - i want to make my yard look as beautiful as butters, here. butters. how are you doing over there? we do both vegetables and large mouth bass. yep. we've got tons of them, don't we, buddy? there are millions of ways to make the most of your land.

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new data today shows that inflation jumped to a 40-year high, and that could spell trouble for democrats leading up to the midterms. prices rose 7.5%, year over year. that was bigger than expected, and means a lot of things got more expensive. and despite a big boost in job growth reported last week, the inflation jump comes as covid and a stalled domestic agenda has put the biden administration on the ropes. president biden's approval rating, a mirror of his party's problems, according to new cnn poll, it's at 41%. that is an 11-point drop from september. president biden spoke about the big jump in inflation during an interview with nbc news that is to air in full before the super bowl. >> when can americans expect

some relief from this soaring inflation? >> according to nobel laureates, 14 of 'em that contacted me and a number of corporate leaders, it's ought to be able to start to taper off as we go through this year. in the meantime, i am going to do everything in my power to deal with the big points that are -- are impacting most people in their homes. >> i am joined now by veteran democratic jat strike that gist, james carville, who also hosts "politics war room" podcast. james, inflation is at a level not seen since 1982. how do democrats deal with that heading into the midterms? >> act like you know what you are doing. it's going to come down. we have policies in place. and if it comes down, you will have pretty good year. if it is still 7.5%, you are going to lose no matter what. but 14 nobel laureates, i am talking about them, that i have policies in place, we do, that we feel confident will bring this down. and if it comes down, you look great. if it doesn't come down, well --

>> basically, you are saying if the only choice they have is to run as if it is going to come down because if it doesn't come down, they are in trouble? >> exactly. precisely. you just surmised exactly what my thinking is. so just go out, act like a winner, act like you know what you are doing, about like it's gonna work. if -- by the way, 14 nobel haur laureates think it is going to come down, bet on them. but you got to act like you know what you are doing. and go from there but you got to exude confidence. >> what about covid? is -- is it the same thing with covid? >> covid's dropping. i mean, i -- like anybody else, i tracked the numbers every day. it's like this huge drop here in the last few weeks. and i -- i don't know, i am not a public health person but public-health people think this is going to continue and covid -- it is a drag. i mean, we thought we were doing better in december.

effect on a lot of things, president shl approval being one of them but looks like a lot of smart people think it is going to get better. >> so these democratic governors racing to lift mask mandates, do you think there is a political calculation there? >> look. if you look at the infection rates and the decline is down -- i don't know -- state by state, 65, 70%. well, yes, you -- you are going to lift mandates if -- if you go from test positivity rate of 20% to test-positivity rate of 3%. that means different behavior. it is not some kind of conspiracy. all you got to do is look at the charts, and see the direction it is going in. >> if you were advising democrats running in the midterm, what would you tell them to do with donald trump? is that something they should focus on? how much of a deal do you think the january 6th select committee will be? >> look, you got to wait and see when the committee comes out.

i suspect their finding's going to be intriguing and devastating. but people want an election about their lives. they don't want an election about a former president. they don't want an election about any of this and if you show in substantial policies that improve people's lives and you run on that, like we did in 2018, you will be successful. you know, i don't know what's gonna happen to donald trump with the 1-6 committee, manhattan da, fulton county da, the archives. i have no idea. but what you can do is do the best you can to talk about how you improving american lives and win elections. you know, went from dr. new deal to dr. win the war. well, i want to be dr. win the election. and that's got to be our entire focus between now and november. >> and does that mean, you know, not necessarily pinning it all on trump? >> i -- people have an opinion on trump and their opinion is going to change over a period of

time when the events unfold over the year. if you have a set amount of time that you can, the voter wants to hear what you are doing to their families' lives and their community and their city. i am worried about a spike in the crime rate. i am not -- donald trump is not first and foremost on my mind. and so, i -- i don't -- i think we let the january 6th commission do their job. let the authorities in play do their job and see where they take us. but in the meantime, let them do their work and let's focus on american peoples' lives. >> you brought up crime. crime is an interesting subject. so, what do democrats need too do in addressing crime? or how do they need to be talking about crime heading into the midterms? >> they need to -- they are starting to do that, increasing police. all right. there are all kind of things. there was operation cease-fire they did out in oakland that was very, very successful. you know? we -- we can do -- we could do

things. 1994, we passed a crime bill. crime went down staggering between '94 and 2020. the democrats have a much better record on -- on fighting crime than the republicans do. we had the biggest spike in crime in the third year of a republican presidency. we need to remind people of that. and there is good policies we can put in place. but, you know, and hopefully -- but as covid goes away, some of this spike in crime will get alleviated. i don't know that but there are criminologists that think that has something to do with it. >> james carville, pleasure to speak with you tonight. thanks so much for being with us. >> well, thank you. enjoyed it but just talk about people, and talk about their lives and let the other stuff, will take care of itself. >> thank you very much. the protest -- the protests involving truckers in canada have expanded. a live update from the nation's capital and the latest on whether large-u.s. cities could see something similar unin the days and weeks to come.

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the protests in canada over vaccine mandates and other issues have extended to a third border crossing with worries those style of demonstrations, some of which involve truckers could come to united states. canada says it is sending more police across the country to deal with the protests. and the mayor of one affected city, windsor, which lies opposite detroit suggested to cnn the police may have to physically remove some protesters. the affect of these protests has reached auto production lines here in the united states, and the department of homeland security has told law enforcement about online discussions of similar protests that disrupt traffic around the super bowl on sunday in los angeles and possibly create issues in other u.s. cities, including maybe washington, d.c. next month in time pour the state of the union. paula newton is in the canadian capital of ottawa tonight with the latest. paula, this is day 14 of the protests there?

what have you been seeing? >> what i've been seeing is more of the same. what does that mean, john? it means people are camped out and here to stay. let me give you the lay of the li land. this is basically canada's national parliament. you can see it there. that's the peace tower. right in front of it, you have these large trucks, these rigs, and yes, john, those are portable toilets you're looking at. what does it mean? it means it looks more like a tailgate party. they have the food and all the other supplies, including crucially, fuel in order to stay here. what do they want? they want all those covid-19 restrictions to be lifted. and believe me, john, they're not compromising on which ones. they want life to go back to prepandemic levels. john, i was just a few blocks away from here. police are trying to siphon off the fuel here. and i saw police drive right by people bringing in extra fuel to this protest. it is really just a one small

look-see into how difficult this has been to police, and that is one protest in canada of quite a few. >> what are local police saying about it? are they asking for any extra help? >> not only are they saying they need extra help, john. let's be clear. take a look at what you're seeing here. you replicate that in several locations now, at least a half dozen. police in this city are saying they need 1800. in terms of active duty officers, that's almost triple what they normally have out on the streets. have those reinforcements arrived yet? no. the issue here is that police have tried to take a softer approach. city officials and almost everyone else in the city want them to take a harder approach. the protesters here say, look, we are here expressing our views since people wouldn't listen to us before, we now are going to do this to get attention. and quite frankly, they, again, are saying they do not want to compromise on who they speak to

or how long they stay out here. >> what about now three border crossings i understand have been cut off? what's being done to address that? >> john, to be honest, that's likely the the more serious situation right now. we are at three, sometimes four major crossings. two of them are critical arteries in the supply chain. and that's the reason that this is going to get the biden administration's attention for not just the days to come, the hours to come, john. and those hours are ticking by. every time that happens, that threatens the economy not just here in canada, but in the united states. and as we have seen, people are fearful. this is almost like a contagion that is spreading, and people are fearful that it will spread to other cities and towns. there is a lot of chatter about that. and of course the department of homeland security has already spoken to officials here in canada about it, as has the fbi. john? >> it's a mess. paula newton, thank you so much. appreciate your reporting. and up next, one more look in a few words about the newest addition to anderson's family.

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we want to finish the broadcast where we begin, and congratulate again anderson and benjamin and new big brother wyatt and welcome sebastian luke maisani-cooper to the world. what a bright light and the best way to say good night. look at that face. the news continues. let's hand it over to laura coates and "cnn tonight." >> hey, john. my husband told me i can't look at any more babies. we're done. that baby so cute. congratulations, anderson. now go to bed, john. you're tired. i know you are. you work so hard. thank you. everyone, i am laura coates, and this is "cnn tonight." and well, people who have nothing to hide don't destroy evidence that must be archived under the law. says who? donald trump. >> people who have nothing to hide don't smash phones with