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thank you so much for joining us this evening. we have a lot to discuss. the white house is warning the russia ukraine situation is urgent. they're telling americans to leave within 24 to 48 hours. 3,000 more u.s. troops are heading to eastern europe to bolster nato allies. has diplomacy failed and it's just a matter of time of when russia invades ukraine? >> i think none of us know because it's all up to one person. the russian political system is really extraordinary, almost unlike any other system in the world. it all depends on one person, and that person is playing his cards close to the chest. here is what he has done. he has surrounded ukraine on three sides. there are long-planned military exercises taking place. o with belarus. he has in place about 75 to 80% of the forces he needs were he to decide to invade ukraine.
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but he still says he wants to talk to macron of france. he has a call scheduled with biden. so he is playing a game where he is still trying to press for some guarantees, security concessions and such. and so the question is is there some space there for a diplomatic off-ramp? i don't think it's too late. i think putin's first objective is to get the kwon sessions without war. and if there is no other way he created a circumstance where he can manage a very quick effective military victory. but my guess is it won't be an all-out. it will be some oh more limited incursion probably the eastern part of ukraine where there are russian speakers. he has done in in georgia where you essentially quote, unquote liberate the places with russian speakers claiming you are protecting the population. one fact that doesn't get reported often.
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the russian government has given 800,000 passports to these people in ukraine in the two areas i'm talking about, basically eastern ukraine, don bass area. he can claim, the russian government can claim we're protecting russian citizens. so that is the -- that is probably the most likely military incursion if it comes to that. >> okay, can we drill down on this phone call tomorrow that the president is going to have with vladimir putin? what specifically does he need to say, fareed? >> i think the biden -- biden has handled this well. he has rallied the west together. europeans are largely on the same page as the united states. there are naturally a few differences here and there. but by and large very strong support for the idea that any russian military intervention would trigger sanctions, would trigger the end of business as usual, would almost certainly
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trigger the end nord stream gary -- the pipeline that carries gas from russian to germany. and now what biden has to figure out is there some creative space for some kind of climb down. because i'm not giving unon the big issue guaranteeing that ukraine will never be part of nato. we'll never make guarantee like that. but can we have a nato russian dialogue? could we have a big conference with the members of the security council plus ukraine plus germany as part of the effort to see we hear your security concerns. you hear ours. we come up with rules of the road we talk about forced deployments and military maneuvers. it feels like there is space there if one were to be creative. you don't give in on the big thing. you try to pfund some area for diplomacy. i think biden so far has handled this well. the question is really, can he find that diplomatic off ramp?
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>> we're hearing that individuals at the state department are calling u.s. citizens in ukraine telling them to leave immediately, not an automated message, fareed, a real person. does this show the concern level here how worried they are this could turn into a mess like happened in afghanistan? >> i think it shows that they are aware that there is a significant possibility that this goes to war. and they wanted to do two things. be sure that nobody says you were caught flat footed. by the way i think the memories of the afghanistan play a part. and genuinely they don't want americans coming in harm's way. i think it's precautionary on two ends there. they'll be taking precautions so they don't get politically blamed for being unaware. and taking precautions so american lives are not put at risk. i don't think it necessarily means, look, we -- this is a fascinating case in diplomacy where we are looking at the capabilities.
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and all of those capabilities suggest action. but ultimately it's not the capabilities alone. it's the intentions. what are putin's intentions? we know he can invade ukraine. russia has the largest land army in europe. the question is, does he really want to? >> russia is not only the powerful country having issues with its neighbors. there is also the u.s. dealing with the canadian trucking protest at our border. we've been watching this happen all week. of course china hoping to take back taiwan, the reason they support russia. granted these are all different levels. but how unsettling is the tension really across the globe right now? >> don, it's interesting you put those all together. because i think at some level there is a common theme here. we're seeing the rise of nationalism. >> right. >> we're seeing the rise of nationalism everywhere. and seeing the rise of a certain kind of popular frustration. and so part of what's going on with russia and ukraine is a
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story of two -- two nationalisms. ukraining nationalism on the one hand. russian nationalism on the other even in the u.s. and canada that has more to do with frustration with covid and covid mandates. and of course in china, you have this -- it's almost like we've entered an age where we are every nation is feeling and every political figure feels there is an advantage to playing the nationalist card, whether it's xi jinping. vladimir putin. and it's true even in -- even in the united states. >> fareed zakaria, thank you wsh sir. have a good weekend. let's see what happens over the weekend. >> thank you don. >> thank you. i appreciate it make sure you watch fareed zakaria. 10:00 a.m., 1:00 p.m. sunday. on cnn. breaking news, a judge in canada issuing an order tonight allowing police to move in and clear protesters from the busiest border crossing between u.s. and canada. protesters vowing not to give up the fight. but many canadians and americans
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unhappy about the impact on jobs and wages. more now -- >> in a battle over vaccine mandates for truck drivers entering canada, now a state of emergency in ontario, with canada's prime minister pushing back against blocking border crossing. >> this unlawful activity has to end. and it will end. of course, i can't say too much more now as to exactly when or how this ends because unfortunately we are concerned about violence. but the absolute safest way for this to end is to for everyone to return to your communities now. >> a court ininjunction now in effect gives police more power to stop protests and the blockade of the bridge leading to the united states. protesters blocking the canadian side of the border may face legal action. >> we think that that will help
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remove the illegal blockades at border crossings that have threatened not only the canadian economy but thuses of jobs. -- thousands of jobs. >> three canadian u.s. border crossing in michigan, in other words and montana have been at times cut off by demonstrations. the u.s. auto industry particularly hard hit by the protests. michigan governor sounding the alarm. >> every minute this goes on is lost wages. it's damage to our businesses. this is an illegal blockade. and while people have the right to protest they don't have a right to illegally block the largest land border crossing in north america. hundreds of millions of dollars a day are being lost. there are michiganders hard working, wanting to show unto their job and out of wok right now. >> u.s. auto makers are cancelling shifts and running on reduced capacity. by one estimate workers in meier could lose up to $51 million in
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wages this week. some truckers say they are frustrated by the slowdowns persisting for days. >> keep a lane oat open if they want to do the show let them. keep a lane open. >> the american trucking association says they don't support mandates. but strongly oppose kpromsing oppose protests that security of the united states. a and truckers in canada are vaccinated at a rate of nearly 90%. yet a slow roll convoy invoice of truck to expected to head to the border to support the protests. stoking it could support rising inflation in the u.s. don even though protesters blocking the canadian side of the border are facing legal action, as you can see behind me the crowd is out here. a festive atmosphere, holding firm for now. but a lot can change over the next few hours don. >> lucy, thank you very much. fears of russia invading ukraine, protests you saw at the u.s. canada border, inflation
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the economy is on edge tonight. with fears of russia invading ukraine. the protest at the u.s. canada border and inflation hitting a 40-year high what does it mean for a stressed out economy. there is much to talk with economist paul krugman. "new york times" columnist. thank you for joining us this evening. i want to start with the trucking protests if you will. this isn't just a problem for canada. u.s. factory workers are estimated to lose up to $as a up to $51 million in wages this week alone. if this doesn't stop soon, how damaging could this be to the economy long-term? >> well, i mean, long-term probably not that much but short-term, i mean this is a --
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look, we don't have a u.s. auto industry and a canada auto industry. we have a north american auto industry which is tightly integrated. i mean, detroit and the windsor across the border are one metropolitan area. this is -- what we've got now is a small group of people disrupting a really important industry that's important to both sides of the border and in general. this is, you know, trade between u.s. and canada is a big deal. and most of it goes by truck. so this is -- this is not helpful. let's put it that way. it's -- it's really disruptive. the damage could easily end up being in the billions of dollars if this goes on for any extended period of time. >> goodness. also today, fears of a russia invasion of ukraine causing stocks to slide, oil prices to surge to a 7-year high. how unsettling is this for an already pandemic and inflation-stressed economy?
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>> so let me give you -- my version of where we are right now is that we are -- we've had a smashing economic recovery. we've gotten back to something close to full employment faster than anyone anticipated. but we've had a lot of sort of growing pains, disruptions that have led to inflation being high. now that is probably not going to persist. it's appropriate the federal reserve needs to raise interest rates, cool things down a bit. but the odds are still that by sometime in 2023 we'll look back and say, you know, we in the burst of inflation but it was worth it to get back to full employment, to have a full recovery in really just about a year which we didn't at all have after the previous crisis. but that it's hard to tell people that when they're seeing prices go up and everything that's happening in the world right now is not so much derailing the recovery as intensifying the probably short term stresses.
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>> so if there is an invasion, what actually happens to the economy? >> oh, look, the u.s. economy is pretty resilient. this -- the shock is going to be far smaller than what happened with the arab oil embargo in the 73 or the iranian revolution in 79. it's an energy price shock, add to inflation. it's going to leave people unhappy. but we are not that -- we are not an economy that was already sort of teetering on the edge of a wage price spiral no hint of that in the data. prices are up but inflationant isn't feeding on it's safe the way it did in the 70s. which means even if we get the nasty shock it's -- it's going to be not nearly as serious as in the past. obviously it's not what the doctor ordered right now. >> yeah. i know you've seen the polls and poll after poll shows americans
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are disappointed in the economy. just 33% are satisfied according to the latest gallop poll but the facts are the economy is growing a at a fastest pace as in decades. you said on fire i'm par phrasing. unemployment is down. wages are up. of course inflation a major problem. are americans focusing only on on the negative. how do you explain the disconnect, paul. >> part of it is, look, people not only focus on inflation but they focus on highly visible prices. people assessment of the economy depends a lot on the price of gasoline which is one thing that presidents almost have no impact on. it's really extremely bad luck for the biden administration. and partly it is i do think that the media coverage, you know don't want to go too far down the lineup. but it's amazing how little press the good news gets and how much -- how much press the bad news gets. and there is a real disparity.
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if you look at surveys and you ask people how is the economy they ait's terrible. you ask how are you doing they're pretty upbeat. >> yeah. >> something is going on here. and on top of that of course there is enormous partisan divide. you know, with the democrats are not pleased with the inflation but republicans think thats worse than 1980 which makes no sense at all. bernie sanders tweeting and i quote here corporate greed is chipotle increasing profits by 181% last year to $764 million. giving the ceo 137% pay raise to $38 million and blaming the rising costs of of a burrito on the minimum wage worker who got the 50 cent pay raise. that's not inflation. that's price gouging. is this really what's happening here? because i notice that some merchants are raising prices.
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and it's not necessarily because of the supply chain pvrp. it's because they want to raise prices. >> yeah, i mean, corporate greed is real. but it's not new. so we -- it's not easy to argue that corporations have gotten greedier than they were a year ago. what is possibly true is that inflation may be giving some corporations kind of cover to be even more rapacious than usual. i wouldn't dismiss that. but it's not the whole story. cracking down getting serious about antitrust get serious about looking for price gouging want do harm and could help the situation. >> we love you thank you for joining us this evening. >> take care. >> dave chapel, prompting an uproar after speaking out against an affordable housing project in his ohio community. but his camp is saying it's not what it seems.
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dave chappelle at the center of controversy this week. video emerging showing the comedian speaking out against proposed affordable housing as part of a new development plan near his ohio home. sparking accusation of nimbism. you know, not in my backyard. there's a lot more to the story. >> can you hear me? >> yes. >> i'm dave chappelle.
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>> monday the comedian took over the mic at a village council meeting in yellow springs ohio to voice opposition to an affordable housing program and of a development near his home. he didn't mince words. >> i can't believe you would make me audition for you. we look like clowns. i'm not bluffing. i will take it all off the table. >> yellow springs is located about 20 miles east of dayton according to a 2020 census a small community of 3,700 residents including chapelle and his family. and where he has held several outdoor shows. back in november 2020 land develop he is bought a 53 acre area of land as part of development of family homes town houses and duplexes according to the yellow spring news. then in december 2021 during a town council meeting several residents including chapelle voiced concerns against a
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portion of the plan adding up to 140 mixed income level homes. >> i'm adamantly opposed to it i obviously i live behind the development or the proposed development. >> the dayton daily news says several raised concerns over increased traffic lack of sidewalks and the overall setup of the development. while chapelle talks about his financial concerns in town. >> i have invested millions of dollars in town. if you push this thing through what i'm investing in is no longer applicable. >> the dayton daily news says his company iron table holdings llc has plans to build a restaurant and comedy club in yellow springs but at the monday meeting he threatened to pull projects if the affordable housing option the way it's implemented wasn't scrapped. >> i don't know why the village council would be afraid of litigation for a $24 million a company, while it's out a $65 million a company. >> following the meeting the
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council voted and deadlocked on the affordable housing plan voting 2-2 against it since then video of chapelle speaking out has gone viral sparking controversy whether or not he was trying to actually block affordable housing. something his publicist says simply isn't true. in a statement to cnn thursday, chapelle's publicist carla sims said dave chapelle didn't kill affordable housing concerned residents and a responding village council killed a half baked plan which never offered affordable housing. sims went on to say near dave nor neighbors are against affordable housing however again the poorly vetted cookie caught are sprawl style development deal with little regard for community, culture and infrastructure of the village. the vote by the council didn't kill the entire plan only scrapped the affordable housing portion of it. don. >> chloe thank you very much. i want to bring in cnn political commentator. david swerdlick.
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good evening to you. let's get this straight. there is a lot dave chapelle is saying one thing. the community saying the other. he is getting a lot of pushback. he is famous although acting as a private resident and business owner. that's his capacity here. what do you think? is is the anger against him warranted? >> yeah, good evening, don, i think first of all a couple of lessons here. one don't leap at everything you see on twitter which we're all guilty of from time to time. and, two, we shouldn't make celebrities our sort of folk heroes if they're only our heroes when it comes to what they do as entertainers on athletes or whatever. but let me back up from there and explain what i think is going on. chloe did a great report. this is a story that reminds us why we need local news. i learned more reading the yellow springs and the dayton daily news than the national
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news about what was going on. it sounds like that dave chapelle is not the stauj -- staunch opponent of affordable housing. it sounds like various camps in the suburb, the college town of yellow springs with different visions of the way the town should go. dave chapelle in one camp also the most famous resident of the town. also might might be the richest. he is planning businesses in this town. he appears based on what i can figure out from reading the news accounts to oppose some part or maybe all of this development. these developers who own the 52 acres, even if the town doesn't approve the affordable housing what they can do, don, is still build, you know, regular housing units on this land. so i think this is a balgt -- battle that is still just playing out.
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>> okay. i think you answered some of this. but just slow down for certain here. >> yeah. >> the pushback from community members did knicks the affordable housing part of the development. so there is a legitimate not in my backyard criticism to be had here? i mean, to be fair, to blame dave chap formal alone when this is a broader social problem, that's not fair, is it. >> so i think it's partially fair and partially not fair. there is a not in my backyard component as far as i can tell reading the coverage, don but it's not clear whether it's over the affordable housing which is what got the attention on twitter, and -- or whether it's over the fact that it might be that dave chapelle and the group of citizens that he is with don't want this development at all. and i think that that story is still kind of coming to light. and, again, i think people should look to the local papers there. where it got out of hand on twitter is that, you know, you have people now primed to see what dave chappelle is going to do.
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don if i could say this. most of dap dave chapelle's career he enjoyed the reputation as the person speaking truth to power. found found clever, hill air -- funny ways to skewer race relations in this country et cetera. the last couple years, especially with the special on netflix last year he got more of a reputation as a curmudgeon. the last special wasn't that funny. a lot of people myself included found it transphobiaic. now you have people primed to think of him as this curmudgeonly guy. people seeing a headline saying he is against affordable housing and leap at it before knowing there is a back and forth in the town. >> i'm glad you said that not to sleep at everything on twitter and twitter is not the real world. you got to read legitimate publications and legitimate news places. there is so much, you know -- it's not fake news. but yeah, fake news out there that. >> it's incomplete. >> it's incomplete. >> yeah. for many middle class families
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around the country, a huge part of the wealth is tied to their homes. >> right. >> nimbism is real. >> sure. >> the way the economy is set up people have every incentive to oppose things in the neighborhoods. at the same time the need for this housing grows as home prices and rents go up. is there a bra broader problem needing attention here. >> it is real. i'm not a suburban college town homeowner any more. i liver in d.c. pu. but i lived in chapel hill and am familiar with the issues because we had them in that town. sometimes i was on one side of an issue other times i was on another side as a homeowner. and you realize that these things are complicated and sticky and personalities are involved. and business interests are involved. i think we will get to the bottom of what dave chapelle wants and what the people he is aligned with want. but i don't think that's what came out on twitter yesterday. and, again, just to go back to
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this thing about people's public image, don, part of it is because over 10, 20 or more years dave chap formal built up the reputation among the public, among fans, and now he is caught up in a situation where he is trying to act as a private citizen but you're not just like every other private citizen. and partly because you're famous. partly because he is trying to build a business in that town. and partly because, you know, he is throwing his weight around as a guy in town with a lot of money to invest. you can't have it both way f2 you are dave chap formal. you can't be treated like any other yellow springsian if you go to the microphone and say i'm dave chapelle i have million millions of dollars and will will put pull it. >> thanks, good to see. from covid misinformation to the n. word, joe rogan no stranger to controversy. my next guest says it's not about cancelling him but exposing what he is all about.
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so it's been six days since joe rogan and after clips went viral of him saying the n word on the podcast. that apology. his second lately. the first was in response to covid misinformation on his show.
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joining me now neil joseph who wrote an op-ed for cnn.com. said don't pretend you don't know what joe rogan is about. what are people pretending? what's really at issue here? >> well, i think what's really at issue is the idea that joe rogan is every man, sort of the average american mo sort of not left, not right. he is independent. he is an independent thinker. maybe kind of some libertarian leaning and bringing all sides to the table. and i think what that on secures is really what is he peddling? he peddles a division and tolerance and misinformation. yes, at times, racism when you're comparing-on, black folks in philadelphia where i went to grad school to planet of the apes, which is the sci-fi film with charlton heston about a future with intelligent monkeys and intelligent chimps. and comparing black people to
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that. that's a racist comparison. you can apologize to that. but we can't say that instance is not a racist instance. basically what he is doing is fanning flames of the cultural wars. fanning flames of political division appear fanning the flames of the kind of intolerance that now has a wide berth throughout american political culture. >> soon after the compilation of rogan saying the n word went viral he released a lengthy apology on his instagram. this is some of it. >> there is nothing i can do to take that back. i wish i could. obviously that's not possible. i do hope that if anything that this can be a teachable moment. because i never thought it would ever be taken out of context and put in a video like that. now that it is, holy. [ bleep ], it looks bad. >> he went on to say the clip that went viral was a hit job.
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but i naught the apology included important elements. shouldn't he be given the opportunity to put it into action? >> yeah, i think he should. i mean this is not about cancelling joe rogan but we have to understand this is a show that introduced the co-founder of the proud boys. this is a show that has climate change deniers. this is a show that is trafficking in misinformation and disinformation. there is a reason why he is getting support from trump and desantis and some of the far, far right-wing conservatives because they look at him as somebody who is an ally in fellowship with them. if he wants to tell us that that's not the case, that that's not the truth, he has to show that not just with words but with deeds. a lot of it -- i say it in the peace. you can enjoy joe rogan but enter a at your own risk and understand what it is you're enjoying right. >> right. >> that's all. because there is freedom of
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speech. we have to remember, don, that amendment right is to protect us against the government oppressing because of our speech. all of our speech has accountability. if we engage in racist speech or anti-semitic speech or transphobiaic or homophobic speech there is accountability. in his case he has 11 million listeners. 100 million investment from spotify. we have to face the facts that right now we are a country that's politically and racially and culturally divided. and a lot of the most popular social media platforms aren't about elevating us. they're not about bringing us together and uniting us they're about the opposite. and guess what we fliv a free country. people have the right to say i enjoy this. i enjoy the person spreading division and disinformation and yes at times racism. >> but you have to the right to say that it's misinformation and division and to call it out.
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i thought -- this is what summed it up for me. i don't think we have a full screen of this. but as i was reading. you talk about you say the real issue isn't whether to cancel joe rogan but some add vote forecast for spotify to cancel relationship. it's exposing joe rogan who he is and admitting his brand of conversation at times traffics in conspiracy theorien a blatant racism and attracts corporate sponsors hungry to advertisewears for such followers. hungry to advertise to such followers. rogan is in fact an agent of the social islas which he packages and sends out to audience clothed in the language of modderation and moral equivalence. for example in addition to the use of the n word rogan made waves by suggesting that because you can never be woken up it will eventually get to where white men are not allowed to talk. a ridiculous assessment but some people believe that. so, again, i thought that summed it up.
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because he is on a platform that is -- it's an advertising platform. he is selling hiswears and people are buying. and people have the right to call either spotify or him out for it quickly if you can give me a response to that, please. >> no, no, absolutely. we have the right to really support a kind of capitalism that's trying to elevate us. and that is about social justice, that's about ending racism or we can support capitalists. because remember he is not every man. $100 million investment. most americans don't have $100 million. so we have the right to support this kind of division and divisive platform as well. but we should be honest about it. and he should be honest about it. if he wants to change and transform that platform one i think he loses millions of listeners. but he can do it. that would be something to see and encouraging. but we have to be honest. this is not moderation. this is not independent thinking. and remember, the only people
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cancelling people in the united states is the far right wing which is cancelling our ability to talk about black history, racial injustice, and also. >> and the truth. and the truth really. thank you. i appreciate it. >> absolutely. >> we'll be right back.
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shocking new testimony in the federal trial of three ex-officers charged in relation to george floyd's death. former-minneapolis officers j. alexander keung, thomas lane,
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and tou thao are charged with violating floyd's civil rights. today, matthew vogel testified that then-officers lane and king did not mention anything to their sergeant or others about how floyd was restrained. yesterday, lieutenant richard zimmerman testified that he was told nothing by officers on the scene about floyd being placed in the prone position. or how long he was like that. zimmerman, also, testified that he was not told by chauvin that he was kneeling on george floyd's neck. um, we now know from video that floyd's killing -- of floyd's killing that chauvin knelt on floyd's neck for nine minutes and 29 seconds. joining me now, george floyd's aunt, and author of "lift your voice, how my nephew george floyd's murder changed the world." we are so happy to have you here. thank you so much for joining us. how you doing? >> thank you. i am doing good. >> you know, it is incredible,
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angela, if i may call you that. to think that any police officer would not share key details to their colleagues about what happened at the scene of your nephew's killing. you must be outraged by this testimony. >> yeah, because it's -- it -- it says coverup. and it was something they obvious was trying to hide and they didn't want the -- the people that should have known, known about -- should know about it. so, if they didn't say anything, it's because they didn't want people to know. >> you know, this trial has had several prosecution witnesses testify that officers had a duty to intervene, and help floyd per minneapolis police training but didn't do it. is this trial just as important or even more important than officer chauvin's murder trial? because it demonstrate that this isn't just about one man. it's about a broken policing system. this isn't just about derek chauvin. it is about the entire system. >> it is. and this -- this trial is just as important as derek chauvin's trial because it is about a broken system.
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a broken system that evolved -- that started 400 years ago. and it just never got better, you know? it just kept getting restructured into these laws and stuff they would create for themselves to empower policing, instead of doing the right thing. >> angela, you write in your book, in your new book about george that people close to him call him perry. and you say perry changed the world. what will we learn about him from this book? >> i think when people read this book, what they will learn is how deeply-rooted racism is. but they also going to learn perry was a human being, that he is a human being. and they will also learn that -- they will see the -- the humility and the humbleness that came across in the book. the book is very -- i think it's very emotional. it's gonna take you on a roller coaster.
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and, um, and it's going to make people think, especially white america. and, yeah, and so i wrote this book -- um -- because i wanted people to see how deep rooted racism was in our family and we -- and we represent many black families around -- around the world. and i -- and i -- and i wrote this book, i talk about things that racism that happened in late '60s, the '70s, '80s, '90s, until perry's death because racism did not start with perry's death. >> you -- as you are referencing now, in this book, you also detail your own experiences with racism. you have a chapter called "why black people are out of patience" and you histoa whole lot of reasons. what are they? >> you know, some because we are tired. we are exhausted. we -- we're just tired of -- one of the biggest reasons -- we are tired of negotiating equality. and i -- what i mean by that, don, we have been negotiating
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for years and i say that all the time but i'm not sure people get it. i know, you know, we couldn't read and write. it was illegal for black folks to read and write. we had to negotiate, we had to fight for that. we had to fight to vote and that's what i want people to know. that's what i hope people see. that's one of the reason why we say black lives matter. because in the past, it really -- it really did not ever matter because equality wasn't an option for us. >> angela harrelson, thank you so much. appreciate you joining us. you be well. you look good and best of luck with this book. >> my twin sister is a big fan of yours and she told me to tell you hello. >> hi, mihalia. you guys, be well, okay, and stay safe. the book is -- again, is called "lift your voice, how my nephew george floyd's murder changed the world" and thank you for watching, everyone. our coverage continues. behind neuriva plus. love thee
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