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here for his first visit and signed a memorandum expanding the security cooperation between the two countries, military to military, to potentially opening up the path for bahrain at one point to purchase israel missile defense systems such as the iron dome. >> to our viewers, thanks for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now live from ukraine. "outfront" next, we are live in ukraine, a country tonight with more than 150,000 russian troops now surrounding it as president biden warns putin, the united states is now ready no matter what happens. plus, meet the men ready to fight the russians on the streets of ukraine. i went to their shooting practice today. and more drugs found in the drug test sample of that top russian ice skater. the news coming as she leads the pack after competing today. let's go out front.
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good evening, i'm erin burnett, "outfront" tonight, breaking news on the ground here in ukraine as the world waits to see what russian president vladimir putin will do next. after a day of confusing mixed signals from putin, it's possible that putin, as of tonight may have already fired the first shot in a conflict. the ukrainian government reporting an apparent cyber attack on the web sites of the ukrainian ministry of defense and the armed forces of ukraine as well as on two major banks. president biden warning there could be more to come. >> the russian defense minister reported today that some military units are leaving their positions near ukraine. that would be good, but we have not yet verified that. we have not yet verified the russian military units are returning to their home bases. indeed, our analysts indicate that they remain very much in the threatening position. and the fact remains right now, russia has more than 150,000
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troops encircling ukraine and belarus, and along ukraine's border. an invasion remains distinctly possible. that's why i've asked several times that all americans in ukraine leave now before it's too late to leave safely. >> meantime, putin publicly today talking about the hope for a diplomatic solution after he was specifically asked whether he would rule out a major war in europe. >> translator: do we want it or not? of course not. >> translator: our intention is and we strive to negotiate with our partners. >> of course there's a problem talking about negotiating as you keep adding troops, as president biden also noted, russia has more than 150,000 encircling ukraine. and new satellite images in tonight show just 45 miles from the ukrainian coast, 60 more helicopters, transport, an
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attack aircraft landed at an air base, and they have done so over the past few days, they see that satellite activity. that base had been vacant until now until at least 2003. i'll show you the same base in november of last year. you can see the shift, and 70 miles from the ukraine coast, another satellite image here shows at least ten russian su-34 strike bombers now in place. new video released today by the russian ministry of defense showing multiple rocket launchers conducting artillery drills in crimea. putin is saying one thing, saying he wants diplomacy, pulling back troops now that they have done their military exercises, but he was purposely showing us images of something extremely different, and people here are telling me they are preparing for the worst, making sure they and their families are protected. i spoke today with an experienced shooter, practicing at a gun range. he and the group of men you see here, they are prepared, they say, to serve as a militia, as
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an insurgency in the streets. >> and if there was anything, guys like these guys, they're not going to back down. >> no. >> reporter: they'll fight? >> yep. >> they'll fight. and he also told me people now are turning up in huge numbers to buy guns and get training. you're going to see a lot more about this later on this hour because the bottom line is people here know as biden said today that the toll, the human suffering and the toll of an invasion would be enormous. >> if russia does invade in the days and weeks ahead, the human cost for ukraine will be immense. and the strategic cross for russia will also be immense. if russia attacks ukraine, he'll be met with overwhelming international condemnation. the world will not forget that russia chose needless death and
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destruction. >> and the danger tonight is not just to the citizens of ukraine and russia, a major warning from the top department of homeland security intelligence official this evening. >> the situation, the escalated tensions between russia and ukraine have the potential to exacerbate the threat environment here at home, particularly as it relates to the use by russia of disinformation campaigns and active measure techniques. >> matthew chance begins our coverage tonight. he is in kyiv, about 300 miles east of where i am tonight, and matthew, i know that you have been speaking with officials in the ukrainian government tonight. how are they responding to biden's speech, you know, which we should note was obviously late in the evening here, ukraine time. >> well, i think what officials have been telling me or they have been telling me, even
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though they saw nothing particularly new in what president biden had to say, the tone went down very well, very positively. one official telling me that it was regarded as firm and resolute. another one telling cnn, official telling cnn that there was no reason as far as they were concerned for a war and they hope that message of a peaceful settlement to this crisis was heard correctly inside moscow tonight, and so, you know, again, a lot of positivity when it comes to this strong message from president biden to moscow about what it should do and what it shouldn't do. of course it came shortly after, these very encouraging signs, apparently that we've had from the russians, the deescalation is possible in terms of the military side, word that there could be troops that are leaving the border region from ukraine and returning to their barracks
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after their exercises have ended, also the signals from the kremlin earlier today as well that the focus for vladimir putin and i'm paraphrasing him here was going to be on negotiations, even though troop withdrawals have not been verified, and the tension in ukraine tonight, the concern that there may be a sort of imminent attack. the threat is still there, but i think some of those tensions have been eased, erin. >> math thew chance, and i wanto go out front to retired general james spidermarks, head of geopolitical strategy. and evelyn farkas, former deputy assistant for russia, ukraine, and yeurasia in the obama administration. evelyn, let me start with you tonight. what do you make of the timing of the cyber attacks that we saw here tonight? you know, as they say, some exercises over, we're pulling troops out, even though that
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can't be verified and at the same time there are cyber attacks on the military sites in this country as well as some of the major banks. >> i think, erin, what it tells me is that i should continue paying attention to what the russians are doing, not what they are saying, and i'm pretty sure. i mean, who else would conduct an attack like this on the ukrainian, as you said, armed forces and ministry of defense, and their two largest banks, it would only be the russian government at this moment in time, and that's the kind of thing they do as a warning salvo. sometimes they'll do it just to mess with them. in this context, again, it could be the beginning of a bigger cyber operation which could lead into a military operation, and very quickly what i mean by that is that they could try to disrupt the communication between various branches of the government, and of course within the military, which could be dangerous to a military trying to fight back against russia. >> it's also sobering, general marks, i want to play something
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else that president biden said today in his address. >> the united states and nato are not a threat to russia. ukraine is not threatening russia. neither the u.s. nor nato have missiles in ukraine. we do not, do not have plans to put them there as well. we're not targeting the people of russia. we do not seek to destabilize russia. to the citizens of russia, you are not our enemy. and i do not believe you want a bloody destructive war against ukraine. >> so general, does this impact the people of russia? i mean, truthfully, will they even hear it? >> i'm skeptical they'll hear it. look, the only target in russia that you want to have a message for -- a target for your message is the owligarchs, putin cares
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what they think about. they give him guidance and give him room to meraneuver f they'r okay, he's okay. there's a huge social gap between those oligarchs and the rest of the population of russia. you have the poor, the very poor and the out of touch. that means informationally out of touch. i don't think this message gets to them and is an effective message. it's the right mets, and you have -- message, and you have to applaud the president for saying it emphatically. what the president is doing is information warfare, and it needs to be done. this is a continuum of warfare, cyber is an element of military application of force. it shapes the battlefield, the russians are doing it, and we're trying to do it for positive results. >> so evelyn, nato received a request from ukraine today. it's interesting, after so much time of the united states talking about an imminent invasion, and ukraine down playing it. ukraine came out and did
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something different. they reached out to nato, and said we need immediate assistance. they know they're not getting lethal weapons from nato, they asked for cars, trucks, trains, bulldozers, they asked for machines for radiation and chemical reconnaissance, equipment to search for explos explosive objects, thermal imaging equipment, and 60 self-sustaining field camps, each which would accommodate 300 people. the list goes on and on, it's extensive and very specific. what do you make of it? >> well, erin, it's alarming. i mean, first of all because some of the stuff you listed is basic. they should have this stuff already. so that's upsetting to me to hear. and then on the other side of it, you mentioned, you know, radiation equipment, explosive ordinance detection, these kinds of equipment that you would use if you're trying to protect yourself or detect russians using weapons of mass destruction, which of course we know that they use in
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assassinations, et cetera, and so we can't put it past them on the battlefield. so it's alarming in those two respects. >> i mean, it is, and when you say that, you know, when you look at the history of their willingness to use those sorts of substances. it's not just putting it out in the ether. there's specific reason for the fear. general marks, biden said today, confirming a new number, 150,000 troops thousand encircling ukraine, and i showed earlier those before and after, our satellite images of 45 miles from ukraine's coast, so just i'll put them up again, 60 helicopters now at what had been a vacant air base in russian-occupied crimea, the aircraft we see here are a mix of transport and aircraft and we'll show everyone the same base on november 5th. this changed quickly. there was nothing there, and now of course it is with all of these aircrafts, 70 miles to the ukraine coast.
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at least 10 russian su-34 strike bombers. general, what do you make of this, satellite images coming out on a day where we're going to pull troops out where they have done their military exercises. >> it's like the magician, wash both hands, it's the hand you don't see that's got stuff going on. what's happening in cry imea, a an intel guy i would go to the boss and said, i don't want to try and confirm this and only look at this course of action we need to worry about but i want to worry about this for a second. we need to do something about it. he's got strike bombers, the sus in crimea. they weren't there before. he's got hero helo, transport and attack, and the naval task force in the vicinity of crimea in the black sea. what that tells me is this reinforces the notion of increasing the presence in the dombas, and expanding it into the direction of the river.
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those forces are there, joint and combined armed forces are there in order to facilitate that operation. as an intel guy, that's what i'm looking at right now. >> crucial those areas, you know, russian, you know, been fighting with ukraine for years, for the past eight years, right, those areas within ukraine here. thank you very much, general, and evelyn, i appreciate both of you. and next, more on the breaking news from ukraine because hours from now, the president here, president zelensky will visit a key port city. it could be a russian target in any kind of an invasion. it is crucially central to this, and we'll talk about what's at stake with our alex marquardt who was there. and a trump supporter who pushes a big lie, and is also under investigation by the fbi. none of that is stopping her from running to be the one to oversee all voting in the state. and tennis champion novak djokovic saying he's prepared to give up the gagame entirely if he's's forced to get vaccinated.
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maripol, miles away from where russian forces are, and also where alex marquardt is. what else do you know about the visit, and why the city where you're standing tonight is obviously so important in all of this. you know what, we're going to go back to him in just a moment. i've got seth jones here with me, the director of the international security program of the center for strategic and international studies who has been looking at the satellite images. seth, we are going to go back to alex. this is how it goes with these situations, just had a freeze on his shot from maripol. let me ask you, i know you spent tonight going through the images, some of which are near to where alex is tonight. tell me what you're seeing. >> well, erin, i think what we're seeing is that the russians still have about 105 battalion tactical groups, the 150,000 ground forces that the president talked about today plus another 50,000 bell russian
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ground forces, plus about 500 combat aircraft within striking distance, plus another 40 combat ships in the black sea. that's a pretty serious force that still surrounds ukraine on three sides. that's what we're seeing. we're not seeing a major decrease at the moment. >> which is obviously very significant, since putin is saying, well, some of my military exercises are done, i'm pulling back forces. there's been no evidence of that yet. president biden is saying the u.s. is able to verify it. alex is with me from maripol, tell me what you're seeing, obviously where you're standing is crucial and the president of ukraine will be there tomorrow. >> he's coming here tomorrow as part of this day of unity, erin. we got word later tonight he's coming here to the port city, about as southeast as you can get in the country, and he made this declaration yesterday saying that he had been told that on wednesday, the 16th,
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that russia would invade ukraine, he said it tongue and cheek, a bit ironically, and instead of that, he wanted to have a show of patriotism all across the country. he's coming down here as part of that, and erin, you're absolutely right, he's a critical city to a number of reasons. to the east, 15 miles away, to the front line, where ukrainian forces have been battling pro russian, russian-backed separatists past eight years. a little past that is the actual russian border. the city is actually on the sea of azof, which is where crimea is. as you have been discussing, the russians have been building up this third front all along the southern coast of ukraine with exercises in the black sea, with troops in crimea, with those helicopters you were talking about with fighter jets. and so there has been all sorts of speculation that putin for years has wanted to join crimea with those russia-backed
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enclaves and with the rest of russia, creating this strip right here and so in the face of that, and in the face of this, you know, this potential invasion, now we have president zelensky coming down here on a national day of unity as cities all across the country will be showing patriotic fervor, erin. >> alex, thank you very much. alex will be there in maripol. seth, let me bring you back into this. obviously, as we say, maripol crucial, we have the southern build up of russian forces. as we point out, there's no evidence that putin has been pulling back forces done with military drills. there may be some evidence of that to come. certainly it's nothing large scale if that's the case, and by the way, he did this in december. december he pulled back some forces, and you know, here where we are in february. the question to you, seth, is there any indication of mass troop movements that would actually show a change in the
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game? >> no, erin, we haven't seen a major change other than a what still looks like a major build up within very close proximity to ukraine. the other thing that's happening, of course, is also there are continue to be weapon shipments into the ukrainian government, so they've got javelins now, anti-tank missiles, they've got stingers, surface-to-air missiles, other types of assistance provided to the ukrainians. we have seen build up in a sense on both sides, and i will tell you this that it will be a much more difficult fight for the russians with the ukraine that's had an opportunity oemp ver thet couple of weeks, to get assistance from the british, and other countries. if the russians move in, it may be a tough fight in some areas. >> they have the grenades that came in, and you know, as you point out, and we'll show later this hour, there are people here
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ready to fight. they are ready, and they will not hesitate and the resolve has been incredible to see. there is one point that you make, seth and that is the longer putin waits to invade, the harder it will be. why else do you feel that way? >> there are a couple of things. one is that we have seen the zelensky government and ukrainians in the west that do not appear to be terrified of the russians right now, and willing to fight. that means moral appears to be holding right now. it looks like the russians hoped with all of this pressure that the ukrainian government could collapse. we could see protests in the streets. that really has not happened, and so i think, you know, if you're the russians, what you might have hoped would happen with the pressure caused on the ukrainian government has not happened. i think many of us have been very impressed with the way the ukrainian morale has continued. i think that's kind of the -- the other thing is nato
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continues to reinforce its eastern flank, and we see probably more unity than we have seen in 20 years within nato. that has to concern putin as well, and it's all directed at his government. >> and ironically, of course, because of what he's done, you have seen the biggest build up in the nato forces on what putin considers to be his western flank than you have seen in a generation. seth, thank you very much. she was stripped of election duties and is now under investigation. this backer of trump's election lie wants to oversee all voting in the state of colorado. they're doctors, they're i.t. professionals, and you're going to meet the men who are ready to fight the russians if they have to.
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tonight the january 6th select committee issuing subpoenas to the fake electors who wanted to make then president trump the winner in key states he lost. the subpoena targeted two members of trump's campaign, and four prominent republican officials in battleground states, and this is coming as republican tina peters, the mesa
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county, colorado clerk who has embraced trump wholeheartedly is now running for secretary of state. she would oversee colorado's election ifs she wins. let's pause there for a second. peters is running to oversee colorado's election, and she was stripped of her duties running county elections and is under state and federal investigation for allowing someone to copy the hard drives of county voting machines, and she wanted to be in charge of the whole thing. she announced her candidacy on steve bannon's podcast. >> we need to restore the truth in elections. >> tina peters is one of the most targeted individuals not just in this nation, in this world, as you fight this globalist apparatus. >> "outfront," now david becker, an election security expert with more than 20 years of experience along with john avlon, our senior political analyst, so david, can you believe peters could end up in charge of an entire state's election system? >> well, i like to think that's
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very unlikely. i mean, as you mentioned, she is under investigation for giving unauthorized access to highly secure, highly sensitive voting technology. she's also under investigation for obstruction of justice, for objecting to a warrant for perhaps elicitly recording a court proceeding that she denied recording. i mean, there's a variety of problems and she was removed for very good cause from her duties in mesa county, colorado. the democratic secretary of state worked with republicans throughout the state. they have put other republicans with a lot of election administration experience including the former republican secretary of state who the current democratic secretary of state defeated in the 2018 election. they're now overseeing elections in that county. but this is part and parcel of what we're seeing throughout the country. states like nevada, arizona, georgia, michigan, they're individuals who are running to take charge of elections on the platform of giving their
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preferred candidate an advantage, rather than what most election officials feel. i worked with them for almost 25 years now, they would consider that an insult. >> and john, this is way bigger than just colorado. >> it absolutely is. we're seeing a nationwide effort, not just at voter suppression, but almost more importantly, election subversion. this effort to make election administration more partisan, not less. by people who have bought in wholesale into the big lie. and it's really a direct threat to democracy. elections should nonpartisan, and these folks are running in the opposite direction while believing a cult conspiracy theory and breaking laws. this is a larger problem than one canary in the coal mine. >> a republican running to be minnesota attorney general called her own aides heroes for participating in january 6th to give another example in another state. just listen to it.
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>> i should note that i have at least two people on my staff who were participants in january 6th. i think in a lot of ways the people at the capitol on january 6th were heroes. >> david, have you ever seen anything like this before? >> no. this is really something new, and again, i have been doing this for a long time but the contempt for the rule of law coming from some of these candidates, many of whom have been part of the grift against sincerely disappointed supporters of the former president, and this is about a contempt for rule of law. that is what's at the core of this. there were rules in place in the election before election day. some of them were challenged. some of them were not. we hear a lot of complaints after the election was lost by a fairly large margin by the former president about those
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rules. that's contempt for rule of law. in addition, now we're seeing people running for attorney general, people running for secretary of state. people running for governor who actually are running on these platforms where they have contempt for the rule of law for the courts, for evidence and all of this other stuff. this is really damaging for democracy. >> well, and people perhaps don't realize that, you know, what made it work last time in spite of the assault was the fact that it was democrats and republicans in state after state after state. secretaries of state, attorney generals who stood up and said here's the count, and did the right thing. if you remove them, the risk is so great. john, that brings me to your book, your new book out today, lincoln and the fight for peace, which talks about what lincoln did after the united states had been ripped apart by the civil war. what lessons do you see for us now in this frightening time? >> it's a reminder that defending democracy is a heroic cause. it's a reminder that sometimes you need to con front divisive
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forces directly, and they need to be defeated decisively. i mean, the big lie is in some ways just an update of the lost caused mythology that many confederates clung to after the civil war. what lincoln understood is that you need to combine strength with magnanimity. these folks need to be defeated decisively, and you need to reach out to try to build back the nation, and that's the essence of winning the peace. if you're in ukraine right now is just as critical as winning the war and that was lincoln's great insight. but we need to defend our democracy at all costs and that's another lesson of lincoln's time. >> thank you john, thank you, david. and next we have breaking news tonight about the russian skater, kamila valiyeva, tests showing not just one hard drug in her system but three, and the covid vaccine standing in the way of novak djokovic's epic tennis career, his quest to be the best player ever.
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valiyeva had three heart medications in her system. one is a banned substance. despite the positive drug test, the 15-year-old competing today in the women's competition, leading the pack. she skating again on thursday. brian fog el, the director offic r -- of icharis, the ioc tonight says valiyeva is blaming this on a mix up, she says, with her grandfather's heart medication. i should mention travis tiggart points out that the australian swimmer, shana jack who claimed that she was exposed to a banned substance in a pool had 200 times lower the amount than valiyeva, as reported, and valiyeva says it was a mix up with her grandfather's heart medication. what do you make of this excuse? >> well, look, this is, of course, the russian dialogue.
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i mean, it has been this way for decades. and as gregory brought forward, as we brought forward to the "new york times" in 2016, you know, a massive state sponsored doping scandal, and the ioc, the court of arbitration of sport has had many many chances over the last five, six years now since this came forward to effectively ban russia from sport, to teach them that this behavior is not tolerated. but at every chance they've had, they have passed the buck, and here we are again now unfortunately with a 15-year-old athlete who clearly didn't know what she was taking but whatever her coaches gave her and now she is being fed what to say to the media. it's incredibly unfortunate. >> right. and she is only 15. it is so crucial in this, right, that in your documentary, you
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went to moscow. and this is so fascinating, you went to visit the head of russia's anti-doping lab. you toured the lab with him, and i actually want to play this one moment for viewers, which is the moment he reveals russia's doping scheme in the stunning interview with you. here it is. >> does russia have a systematic statewide doping system in place to cheat the olympics? >> yes. >> were you the master mind of a statewide system that cheated the olympics? >> of course, yes. >> was putin aware of the existence of the russian doping system? >> yes. aware of my name. >> so i want to put aside what happened to him in a moment because it's important, but first, just this crucial point. putin knew, putin behind it. is anything going to stop russia from continuing to do this? >> well, i think you have to look at the history, and even where we are in regards to
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ukraine, where we've been in regards to the poisoning of alexei navalny, or skirpal. what the russian ministry has learned and what putin has learned is essentially that this behavior will be tolerated, while world leaders and even the ioc might, you know, youwant to give a slap on the wrist. at the end of the day, there are no meaningful punishments for this sort of behavior so, you know, the ministry and putin has learned that essentially he can get away with this. >> and he did get away with it in the sense of the man you spoke to at great risk to his own life, after doing so, two of his colleagues died unexpectedly. you had to help him flea to the united states, here's that moment. >> i need to escape. >> so you want to get out. >> yes. >> i'm going to get the flight for you right now. >> yes, right now.
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please. go. >> okay. >> some security measures will be set. >> how will i know that you made it through okay? >> i don't know. okay. >> okay. >> so gregory went into the witness protection program in the united states, and, you know, but as i said, two of his colleagues died unexpectedly, so those seem to be the fates. those seem to be the fates that may meet people who tell the truth in these cases. >> i mean, look, alexei navalny is about to go on trial and facing ten years in prison. what is his crime? essentially running for the presidency of russia. so i mean, this is par for the course, and i think what we're seeing at the olympics right now is very sad and the tarnishment of such a young career, obviously such an extraordinary
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talent, but i think the bigger issue is that there was no punishment, and so, you know, russia is free to cheat, and they're free to cheat again because we're learning that the ioc and the court of arbitration for support really has no interest in meaningful sanctions or punishment despite any number of violations or decades-long scandals and frauds. you know, and -- >> brian, thank you very much! when you look at this -- >> sorry, i apologize i didn't mean to cut you off but i know there's a bit of delay. so i apologize for the overtalk. brian, i thank you very much for your time. the top ranked tennis player in the world putting everything on the line tonight, willing to lose it all. novak djokovic not getting the covid vaccine even if it means the end of his career. >> and every day citizens taking up arms in western ukraine, ready to fight if russia invades, and we're going to take you, you're going to see what happened today when they rain. -- train.
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new tonight, novak djokovic says he will remain unvaccinated even if it costs him his career and his legacy. he's still ranked number one in the world, of course, after foregoing the australian open and losing there. rafael nadal getting the title. but djokovic revealing he'll miss the french open and wimbledon if he's required to get the covid vaccine in order to play. >> not being vaccinated today, you know, i'm unable to travel to most of the tournaments at the moment. >> that's a price you're willing to pay. >> that is a price i'm willing to pay. >> ultimately, are you prepared to forego the chance to be the greatest player that ever picked up a racket statistically because you feel so strongly about this? >> yes. >> it's amazing to actually hear him say that.
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and out front, christopher clary, "new york times" tennis correspondent who has covered more than 100 grand slam tournaments and also has covered djokovic since he was 17 years old. so for half of his life. so christopher, he is sitting there, he's ready to give up his entire career, ready to give up every single thing. why is he doing this? >> you know, surprisingly unsurprised in a way because i have followed him so long, he's followed his own path for the start. he's a stubborn guy and he's had a long time to think about this and sit with this whole topic and he made this decision based. and he means it. >> so you point out djokovic is the only men's singles player in the top 100, the only one who is not vaccinated. what impact does his decision have on others in tennis and outside tennis? >> that's a great question. i mean, in a lot of sports you
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would be celebrated 99% vaccination rate as a sign of the people complying with the vaccination situation and going along with it. novak is so prominent, it makes it hard to separate tennis from that topic right now. a lot of people associate tennis with the anti-vax movement because of the situation with novak being in the news for the last year and a half. >> yeah, just deeply unfortunate. djokovic goes on in that interview to say, and i quote him, i'm trying to be in tune with my body. as you know, he's also said positive thoughts can cleanse polluted water, because, quote, scientists have proven molecules in water react to our emotions and he said he knew he had a gluten intolerance when he held a piece of bread and felt weaker in that arm. does he stand out for these conspiracies and his inability to get past them. >> for him, it's mind over matter. i think he also could turn his career around, but he went to a
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higher level when he went gluten free. he has a strong belief for the power of his body when he got one operation on his elbow years ago when he had to fight himself for months before he did it. it's bane a struggle for him for a while. he's backed up, i would say quackery at time, but he's very much out there in alternative medicine and it's a big part of his life and his culture. >> all right, christopher, thank you very much. i have to say it's really sad. i was hoping he would be a champion for the right thing here, as of course, he's been such a sports champion. it's sad and tragic to see someone willing to give something up like this. so misinformed. thank you. >> next, ukrainians young and old training to fight putin. '. liberty mutual customizes your car insnsurance so you only pay for what you need. only pay for what you need. ♪ libertyty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ if you have advanced non-small cell lung cancer, your first treatment could be a chemo-free combination of two immunotherapies that works differently.
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new tonight, the fight putin will face if he invades ukraine. here in lviv today, i met a group of men who are i.t. professionals, doctors, designers. they share a few things in common. they're highly educated and they're ready to act as a militia and fight against the russians if putin attacks. this group of men meets to shoot. was just a hobby. now it's for something bigger. their country. >> they're prepared to kind of work in case of a full invasion, so their main responsibility will be to secure the streets, to secure the, like, core buildings and stuff like that. together with army and ukrainian special forces. good but these are civilians
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willing to step into that role and do that in the streets if necessary. >> exactly. it's something similar to militia. >> he is a trained philologist. he now worked in cloud computing i.t. in lviv. like many here, he has u.s. based clients, so the time difference allows him to practice shooting in the mornings and go to work afterwards. temore is also in i.t. dmitrio is a doctor. mikhailo is a graphic designer. ordinary citizens in the city of more than 700,000, now practicing tactical advances in case they ever need them on the city streets. he and his friends take this motto on display at the shooting club literally. lviv, people of action. >> if you will look into ukrainian history, throughout the 20th century, and we were fighting against ussr, so we had local guerilla forces especially
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here on western ukraine, and we were willing to fight, so i guess that's kind of our heritage. >> the president of the shooting club, which has groups across ukraine, tells us he used to get five calls a week from people wanting to learn to shoot. now, as putin's army sit on ukraine's borders, he says he gets more thaen times that many. the lviv shooting club adding more training with 350 people coming this weekend, people of all ages ready to defend themselves if needed. he taught one boy who is 11 years old. his friends have multiple guns. there's no limit on the number of guns you can own in ukraine. he said his second will be an ar-15. he's hoping he'll only need it for target practice. >> you know, their dedication and willingness to fight is so significant. it stands out. we met another man new to shooting here. he's picked out his rifle. he's looking to begin training. married with a 1 1/2-year-old child, and says that he would fight, too.
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the truth is that no one seems to think putin will actually invade, but that if he expects an easy, quick victory, they say that he is very, very wrong. thanks so much for joining us. ac 360 starts right now. president biden offers russia a way out of the ukraine crisis, along with the clearest warning yet of the price to be paid for not taking it. john berman here in for anderson. the president spoke at the end of a tense and somewhat confusing day with mixed signals at every turn. on the one hand, vladimir putin claimed a number of russian troops are pulling out of the region. on the other, he aused ukraine of creating genocide against ethnic russians which many believe could be a pretext for invasion. his flurry of high profile diplomacy continued. it was the turn of german chancellor olaf scholz and then the apparent cyberattacks today against ukraine's defense ministry and the website for two big banks.
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