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xt. thank you so much for watching. i'll be back tomorrow night. "don lemon tonight" starts tonight with the great don lemon. >> laura. >> hello. >> what do you think -- do you think that we have -- i don't know if things are changing because we've had so much turmoil over this issue, but with the gun manufacturer giving, or at least having to give, being ordered to give that amount of money to the victims, do you think this is a turning point in some way? >> i think it really can be, particularly from the insurance perspective, right? there are so many analogies in my mind to big tobacco in the
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way we talked about big tobacco over the years, the major lobbying they had, the interest, the power, the marketing, the way they approached it. until it started to hit the purse, you didn't see fundamental changes. people still smoke, of course, we still have it, it's still pervasive. people will still own guns, the second amendment will still be there. but i think once you start to acknowledge in the insurance industry, maybe, the high-risk nature, maybe that's one way to do so. >> and folks got billions of dollars from the tobacco industry, and they said it would never happen, the tobacco industry is way too strong. you can't smoke in a public building anymore. there's certain places it's frowned upon. yes, it's your right and your freedom to do it, but it is restricted in certain places. maybe we'll see the same with guns. >> i was telling my kids the other day, there was a time when we would walk into a restaurant and they would be smoking or not? my kids were what? >> i remember the smoking
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section in the back of the plane. crazy. >> that sounds horrible because that's the episode of "mad men" at the time. no, thank you. >> that and the liquor cart everywhere. thank you, laura. i'll see you tomorrow night. i appreciate it. >> bye. here we go. this is "don lemon tonight." what has been happening in ukraine? what's going to happen, what is vladimir putin going to do? there has been some movement maybe in the right direction, we will see. an invasion in ukraine, though, remains distinctly possible. the united states is prepared no matter what happens. that is president biden's warning, but now we're learning there are even more russian troops on the border with ukraine, 150,000. the president is skeptical about russia's claims that some of its troops are withdrawing after drills and delivering a blunt message to vladimir putin that this isn't going to turn out the way you think. >> if russia attacks ukraine, it would be a war of choice, or a
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war without cause or reason. i say these things not to provoke but to speak the truth, because the truth matters. accountability matters. if russia does invade in the days or weeks ahead, the human cost for ukraine will be immense. and the strategic cross for russia will also be immense. if russia attacks ukraine, it will be met with overwhelming international condemnation. the world will not forget that russia chose needless death and destruction. invading ukraine will prove to be a self-inflicted wound. >> the president speaking directly to the russian people, saying you are not our enemy, and warning americans that there will be consequences here at home. energy prices going up, more pain at the pump. that as homeland security says threats of disinformation
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campaigns and cyber attacks in the u.s. are increasing in the wake of tensions with russia and ukraine. there are news tonight from the committee investigating what happened on january 6. they are targeting the fake electors part of the plot and what may have been the craziest part of all of it. just choosing so-called alternate electors, even though that's not a thing. and printing up certificates for them to sign. new subpoenas tonight to two members of the campaign and prominent officials from key battleground states. the committee wants to know about the fake electors, like kelli ward. kelli ward is a member of the arizona republican party. and members of his staff and transmitted documents claiming to be an alternate elector. remember, all of this happened out in the open in arizona. the republican party tweeted it out. >> our president, donald j. trump of the state of florida, number of votes, 11.
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for vice president michael r. pence and the state of indiana, number of votes, 11. >> then there's michigan. the committee wants to talk to laura cox, a former chairman of the michigan gop who they say reportedly witnessed rudy giuliani pressuring state lawmakers to disgrace election results and saying that certifying the results would be a, quote, criminal act. you remember what happened when michigan's fake electors tried to get inside the state capitol while the real electors were already inside doing their job? >> the capitol is closed. unless you have an office to conduct business today or you're taking part of the act. anybody else is not permitted. >> the electors are already here. they've been checked in. >> there are electors inside?
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>> all 16 electors and we're going to be here and going to check in. they're already here. >> but these are the rest of the elects or the. >> i understand. >> captain, the electors are also the -- the gop electors are also on the governor's certificate. >> i'm not going get into a political debate. >> it's the official sealed document. there is a certificate. they also have electors here and trying to do their constitutional duty. >> we have new developments on two trials we ever been following from the very beginning. in minnesota, the first ever testimony from one of the ex-officers in the george boyd case. one of three officers who is charged with violating george floyd's civil rights taking the stand in his own defense today, testifying he was, quote, generally able to see the other officers handling floyd and that he saw chauvin's knee on floyd's neck. that as in georgia the prosecution calls its first
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witnesses in the federal hate crimes trial of travis mcmichael, gregory mcmichael and william roddie bryan, the three men convicted of murdering ahmaud arbery. a neighbor testifying he was trying to comfort their baby, and i quote, while someone was dieing on the street in front of our house. that coming after the prosecutor in opening statements cited social media posts in which travis mcmichael used racial slurs saying he called black people monkeys and subhuman savages. the judge ordered the jury to be sequestered. we have more on this coming up. it is a very busy news evening. i want to get right to nic robertson. he is live for us in moscow for the very latest. and also with lieutenant colonel alexander vindman, he is the author of "here right matters." we appreciate both of you joining us this evening there is a lot going on when it comes to this story. nic robertson, i'm going start with you. president biden made clear he wants diplomacy to prevail.
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but he says the u.s. and allies will respond decisively if russia invades ukraine. at times it felt like he was talking directly to putin. what is the response from there in moscow? >> yeah, it really did. i think one of the points you felt he was trying to connect with president putin and be clear, we'll continue talks, we'll continue diplomacy, but we're not going to change on our core principles. we're not going to roll over to your demands that say ukraine can't become a member of nato, because a couple of hours earlier, president putin had been saying exactly that. president putin had been saying yes, i'm willing to negotiate, i'm willing to talk, and there are these other issues about missile controls and transparency. but where troops are across the borders, but i'm going speak about my core issues, which is that ukraine can't join nato. so i think, you know, president biden was very clearly
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addressing president putin and saying, you know, that may be what you're saying, but this is what we've said all along. we're not changing. we can have those talks, but this is how it's going to be. >> putin is saying some troops are returning to their home bases, but there is 150,000 troops around and ten russian strike bombers 70 miles off the coast of ukraine in southern russia. 60 transport and attack helicopters are landed at the crimean air base in the last few days. is putin really serious about diplomacy when you see all of that? >> that's not clear. the fact is that his rhetoric has always been deceitful, often deceitful. certainly in 2014 he completely discounted the fact that russian forces were involved in the seizure and annexation of crimea, increasing ukrainian territory in the donbas. the fact that he is being deceitful in this case is
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something that we need to seriously consider. that's why we need to go with the old military adage, trust but verify, although in this case we don't trust. we're certainly going to verify over the next several days whether he is going to withdraw forces. until we see that, there shouldn't be any relief or any sense of the fact that we're past this complication. what i can say about president biden's speeches, i felt a deep sense of pride hearing the president defend our values, defend our national security interests, and frankly lead as an american president should. something that we've been missing for quite a few years now. >> you know, we talked a lot about the russian troops. but what about the ukrainians? what kind of defense will they mount in the event that russia were to attack, and how committed will they be to that defense? >> the ukrainian forces have completely rebuilt since 2014. at that time, i've interviewed some folks that suggested there are only 6,000 troops at the ready to defend ukraine's entire
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border with russia. now they're closer to about 250,000 troops with another 250,000 in reserves. they have -- they're much better trained. their equipment is certainly better. but unfortunately, they're just -- the military capabilities, there is an enormous mismatch with regard to russia's air power. it will have air dominance almost instantly, as soon as the first shots are fired. it has very powerful cyber capabilities, electronic warfare capabilities, long-range fires. and these can be very difficult for the ukrainian forces to contend with. but they do have a strong will to fight to defend their country. and therefore they're likely to inflict some casualties on russian forces. potentially not enough to deter vladimir putin's aspirations to conduct a military operation against ukraine. >> i asked you what the response was to the president in moscow tonight, nic, but president biden had a message for the citizens of russia as well. let's listen and i'll get your response.
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>> to the citizens of russia, you are not our enemy. and i do not believe you want a bloody, destructive war against ukraine, a country and a people with whom you share such deep ties of family, history and culture. >> how do you think that resonates with russians and ukrainians? >> yeah, it's a really important message to try to reach around the kremlin and the kremlin's spin machine, because the way the kremlin talks about everything that comes from washington, it puts it in a bad light. it says that, europe, the united states and the european partners are the ones that are creating the tension and the ones that are wanting to fight, and they're the ones that are putting russia in a corner and squeezing russia. so to reach around that and speak to the russian people is definitely a way to try to unpick what the kremlin's doing. the difficulty of doing it here, though, president putin has
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really squeezed down on and pretty much strangled all the independent media here. a lot of independent journalists have left the country. they don't feel safe, and they can't work here, so they've left. so it's very hard to see how president biden's message could land here, because on state tv, it will get the same kremlin spin put on it that says these are the guys that are building up the hysteria, they're building up their case, they're trying to create a provocation for war. i think as far as ukraine is concerned, it will resonate well. it will land well with the people of ukraine. they are, like their president said, trying to stay calm. and there is this disconnect between how we perceive the threat they're under and how they perceive the threat they're under. but this is a message that they would like many russians to hear as well, that they don't want to go to war with russians. i speak to russians on the street here. they say look, these are our brothers in ukraine, and we don't want to go to war with
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them. but getting that message to land here, getting that message from president biden clearly to the people here is a very, very hard thing to do. people will get it on the internet, but not that many people. >> lieutenant colonel vindman, we are learning the white house conducted tabletop exercises for to prepare for potential russian invasion of ukraine, which included officials from the state department, the pentagon, the joint chief, the energy department, among other agencies. what exactly does that entail? >> well, it's really quite a sophisticated way of war gaming exactly how the situation could unfold. it might not cover every single contingency, every single parameter, but you have somebody play the adversary. you have somebody play russia. you have somebody play ukraine and they talk through the different ways that russia could achieve its military objectives, and that way they uncover the
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different contingencies that u.s. and allies have to plan for with regards to refugee flows and displaced persons, protection of critical flux in ukraine with regards to cyber -- defensive cyber assistance. that's really the idea. you kind of take it from cradle to grave, how russia would conduct this operation, and illuminate the different features like this. you could plan for it. and the u.s. could start to plan assets to bear. >> nic, lieutenant colonel vindman, thank you. i appreciate it. >> thank you. massive forces amassing on the border with ukraine, while here at home the election plot. a lot to talk about with congressman jason crow. he is here, and he is next. that's why i use the freestyle libre 2 system. with a painless, one-second scan i know my glucose numbers without fingersticks. now i'm managing my diabetes better and i've lowered my a1c from 8.2 to 6.7.
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also saying that the u.s. has not verified that putin has withdrawn any troops from the border. how should the u.s. calculate its next move with putin playing with what one of our military analysts said is a game of cat and mouse? >> hi, don. i actually think the administration, the president is playing this exactly how they should be playing this right now, and that is using all the tools, all the levers at our disposal to put pressure on vladimir putin, diplomatic, economic, military, our reliance on partner structure. what i think the moves by vladimir putin in the last two days show, and that is releasing the video of him meeting with his foreign minister and doing some other things like shuffling some of his units around, i think it shows he has been taken aback by some of the aggressive posture of nato and the united states with our diplomacy and with our declassification of information. have been very aggressive in declassifying information about russia, what russia is doing.
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i don't think vladimir putin was expecting that, and now he is having to reshuffle the order in the sequence of his strategy here. >> there is still not much clarity coming from congress in terms of a response or a bipartisan package of sanctions. is our congress right now no longer able to put together, to pull together to defend the country's best interests in this crisis? if putin were to invade? >> i'm not sure that's true. i think congress has been very united in a lot of respects. we pushed back in a very united way on russia's aggression on our support for ukraine, on a need for a sanctions package. where we disagree is the timing of that sanctions package. i tend to believe, and i fall into the camp that we would sanction after an invasion. and the reason for that is very simple. this is about deterrence. this is about trying to deter russia from doing something. and those who know who vladimir putin is and how he acts knows that being strong and projecting
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strength is very important. if we sanctioned before an invasion, we lose all of our leverage. there is no reason for him to back down. he actually has to show strength by invading. so the timing and sequence is very important. that's where some of the disagreement comes in. other than that, there has been a lot of unity around this, which has been a little bit of a silver lining. >> i want to turn now, congressman, if you will to the january 6 committee investigation here at home. the committee issuing more than six subpoenas today targeting republican officials from various states who may have been involved with a fake elector plot. is the critical question here who was directing them? what is the critical question? >> i think the critical question is what did donald trump do and what did his key enablers do. and the january 6 committee continues to do exactly what it should be doing, and that is issuing subpoena, taking deposition testimony, reviewing documents. we see that they are doing what a law enforcement or an investigation of this nature should be doing.
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and that is starting at the bottom and working their way up, seeing how high this goes. and it has been very methodical, very precise and deliberate investigation. >> the committee is also expecting rudy giuliani to cooperate with the subpoena. and a source tells cnn that trump's lawyer is willing to engage on election fraud claims, despite him being the source for some of the most outrageous, egregious wrong claims of fraud. how seriously should the committee take what rudy giuliani may even say? >> well, rudy giuliani's story is a fascinating and a tragic one. here you have a man who used to be a federal prosecutor. these senior federal prosecutor that actually helped take down the mob in new york city in the '80s and '90s. so he knows law enforcement. he at least used to respect law. what happened to him in the past decade, i don't know. that's anybody's guess. he certainly turned his back on
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rule of law and everything he used to stand for. but he understands how this process works and i hope he will revert to respecting the investigation that remains to be seen. we hope that he will cooperate with it. but if he doesn't, there are subpoenas and there are ways to compel his testimony. >> you think, congressman, what happened on january 6 shows us just how fragile our democracy really is. and your house colleague alexandria ocasio-cortez had this to say about what comes next. watch. >> you used a phrase earlier in the midst of this, "if we have a democracy ten years from now." do you think we won't? >> i think there is a very real risk that we will not. i think what we risk is having a government that perhaps postures as a democracy and may try to pretend that it is but isn't. >> do you -- do you share this
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sentiment? are you worried that the u.s. could turn into a faux democracy? >> what i think is that it's our decision whether or not we want to have a democracy and what type of democracy we want to have. and that's no different from any other ten-year period. there is this very famous saying that democracy is only one generation away from extinction. and the reason for that is because in a democracy is not self-perpetuating. it doesn't move on its own. it doesn't reinvigorate itself. there is no institution, no process that continues to carry it forward. it's actually just people. it's people deciding that they're going fight for it. it's people deciding they're going to uphold the norm, the traditions, our democratic processes. and we have to always make the decision to do that, or not to do it. it's actually our decision whether or not we're going to come out of this stronger or not. and that's what we're fighting to do is to make the case for a strong democracy for people to en engage, to have a democratic year of action in 2022 for
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people to say enough is enough. we're going to do better than that. >> congressman, i understand that. but some say that is a very high-minded idea of how democracy should operate. considering the times that we're in now, the assault on democracy, the big lie, january 6th, what's happening with voting rights and access to the voting booth all over the country, a lot of people are worried. you're not worried? listen, it's very -- i respect what you're saying about democracy, but it doesn't seem like everyone is in that place and has that sort of idea, frame of mind that you have. >> well, of course i'm worried, don. it's my job to be worried. and i'm realistic about the challenges we face. the challenges we face are some of the biggest challenges we face in several generations, certainly in my lifetime. disinformation, misinformation, climate crisis, the surge of nationalism and white supremacy and racism, all of that
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converging, yes, it's tough. it's going to be a hard slog forward. but i'm also somebody that believes in the human spirit. i believe in the strength of the american people. i believe we've encountered extremely hard times before. we've been able to overcome them and come through them better. and it's my job to lead, and it's my job to listen to my constituents and to bring people together. and that's what i'm going to try to do. that's what i'm going to continue to fight to do. i'm not going to stop doing it. >> and you always have a place where you can come speak about it. thank you very much, congressman. we appreciate you joining us this evening. we'll see you soon. >> thank you. a top adviser has some advice for president biden and the democrats, but it sounds pretty different from what president obama himself giving them. that's next.
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president biden addressing the nation and the world today from the white house, warning about the toll of a russian invasion of the ukraine. what toll it would have on the region and here in the u.s. >> if russia invades, it would take further steps to reinforce our presence in nato, reassure our allies and deter further aggression. to be clear, if russia decides to invade, that will also have consequences here at home. but the american people understand defending democracy and liberty is never without
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cost. >> joining now to discuss cnn political commentator david axelrod who has a new piece thought "the new york times." it's titled "march mr. president, it's time for a little humanity." good evening. before i asked you, it's time for a little humanity as well. he warned putin against aggression and laid out what's at stake here. how do you hi he did? >> well, look. i agree with jason crow. i think that he's handled this situation well, and he's surprised putin. he has pulled the nato allies together. he has been very, very blunt about what the consequences would be of an invasion, and i think he's given putin things to think about. i just don't -- i can't find fault with the way he's handled this. he also did something very important today, don.
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he told the country what was happening, but he also told the country that if putin did invade, that we would respond forcefully with sanctions, and there would be reverberative impacts on this country, and explained why it was important why we had to do it. i'll tell you, he specifically addressed gas prices, which is a major irritant to the american people right now. they're going to go up if putin invades because russia is a gas-producing -- is an oil-producing country. and in fact oil prices are going up already just on the threat of trouble in ukraine. and so i thought it was smart of him to explain to people that that might happen so that they don't associate the higher gas prices with something else. they need to know this is a sacrifice short-term the american people are going to have to make in order to preserve a rules-based world where countries just don't go in
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and grab other countries at their whim. >> listen, that is an issue that is happening abroad, and megapixel maybe people at home are more concerned about their pocketbooks, but he is taking on the threat, the threat today, but he is facing a lot here at home. he is facing inflation, a stalled legislative agenda, a pandemic that won't quit, dismal approval ratings, maybe because of all of the above i just said. he is going to give his first state of the union speech in two week, and you're warning him to be cautious. why is that? >> well, because of my own experience in the obama white house. you know, we did a lot of things in 2009 to help reduce the brunt of great recession. and yet it hit very hard. millions of people were suffering. people lost their homes. people lost their jobs. and, you know, the compulsion on the part of an office holder is to say here is what we're doing. and you want credit for what
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you're doing. you want people to see progress, even if it's slow in coming. but you have to link up with where people are in their lives. and when you claim too much, or when you claim, you know, make lavish claims of progress, i think people are rightfully irritated by that. and, you know, we have been through, don, and you talked about -- you've talked about it many times. this will go down in history as one of the great traumatic periods of all time for america. this pandemic you know, we're closing in on a million lives lost. many people sick. we all know the story. isolated for months and months and years. parents dealing with children who can't go to school or when they go to school, the rules are shifting.
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and you've seen it in mental health, suicides, violence on the streets. it's been a tough period for this country, not to mention the economic problems, inflation, supply chain issue, all related to the virus. we've gone through hell. and joe biden, you know, you said it right the first time. the headlines should have been we need a little more humanity. joe biden is one of the most empathetic people i know. that's one of his great strengths as a politician. he is also middle class joe from scranton, pennsylvania. a guy famously in touch with the experience of people. and he needs to speak to that experience and understand why people are frustrated right now, why people are angry. not to engage in sort of a jimmy carteresque kind of malaise type, but just to stay -- just to say we've been through hell. we're better off than we were a year ago, but we're not where we need to be, but we're going to
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be. i promise you, we're going to be, and here is why. i mean, that's the kind of speech i think the people want to hear. >> so i want to talk more. listen, you know. you've been there. and more specifically, you say, i mean, i think you're blunt. more bluntly than what you wrote in "the times," you write about people being stressed out, burned out because of the last few years. >> yes. >> i want to quote you here, and you tell biden, you simply cannot jawbone americans into believing things are better than they feel. you've just said something similar. explain what you mean. how does he jawbone? >> i don't know if you recall his press conference before the anniversary of his inauguration, but he was very, very energetic in selling all of his achievements and selling the idea of progress. and i just could see people around the country who are
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struggling still with this virus, who are struggling still with a sense that we don't have control of things, who are struggling with violence on the streets, who are struggling with all of the permutations of this virus and its aftermath say what are you talking about? i do not feel that. i mean, you look at the poll, don, and the right track number for the country is like 28%. democrats, republicans, independents, people just aren't feeling good right now. and, you know, i think that's where you have to start. you have to address that. and acknowledge, we have been through hell. this has been a really hard siege. and it's gone on for years. and we're taking affirmative steps. we're making progress. but, you know, if you're one of the health care workers who has had to deal with this, if you're a parent who has had to struggle with your kids' schooling for the last two years, you know, if you're any number of other
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people in this country, it has been a really tough time. and he just needs to link up with that. and you're not going to persuade them by telling them what you've achieved. you're not going to persuade them, oh, yeah, you know what? i actually feel fine. that's not the way it works. >> listen, i would encourage everybody to read it. david axelrod, in "the new york times," "mr. president, it's time for a little humility." and as he said, humanity as well. >> thank you, great to see you. more anger raging. the russian skater kamila valieva is still competing in the olympics, and she is taking the lead. on, puffs bring soothing relief. a nose in need deserves puffs indeed. america's #1 lotion tissue. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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for three substances related to treating heart conditions, that according to a document cited by "the new york times." she declared two of them, but the third is a banned substance, yet she was allowed to compete today, and she leads after the women's short program. i want to bring in cnn's david culver who is in beijing for us. he is following the story. thank you. hello to you. earlier today valieva blamed her positive drug test on a mix-up with her grandfather's medication. but now we have learned that three different substances related to treating heart conditions were found in her sample. tell us what was found, what's going on here. >> hey there, don. so this new information coming from the documents reviewed by the "the times," and they showee 15-year-old tested positive for three substances all together. two are not considered to be banned, but they all have performance-enhancing capabilities. the u.s. anti-doping chief telling cnn that the amount of drugs found in valieva's sample is consistent with an intentional use. remember, we're talking about a
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young teen, despite stumbling in her first jump had a strong showing in beijing, puttering in the lead of the women's singles skating competition. the ioc has said no medals will be awarded in these programs until the investigation is complete. and don, it's worth noting, not a lot of folks were allowed in the stadium because of covid measures, but there was loud cheering for that team coming mostly from her fellow russians looking on. after her performance, she burst into materials and held on to a stuffed animal. she is seeming to feel the heavy criticism. but most of the international criticism is not targeting her. as officials point out, she did not have the resources or know how to take these substances. most see her as a victim of russia's cheating. >> thank you, david. i appreciate your reporting. i want to bring in rob kohler, the kormer deputy director of the world anti-doping agency. rob, thank you so much. you can add a perspective to this that not many people can.
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we're glad to have you here. the three drugs found are being called heart medications. but our contributor says they are not used in contemporary cardiology practice to treat patients with heart disease. tell us what was found in her sample and what would it be used for? >> yeah, i mean, the reality is it doesn't matter if it's one, two, or three substances found in her sample. there is a principle of strict liability that she was taking a substance that is prohibited under the world anti-doping. we put blame on three organizations for putting a young child in this position. it's the world anti-doping agency, the international committee and the court of arbitration for sport. they had the opportunity to suspend russia from the olympic games for state-sponsored institutionalized doping, and they refused to do so. they chose politics over principle and russian interests over athlete interest. and as a result, there was no
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need for cultural change in russia. we've talked to whistle-blowers and current athletes from russia, and they told us you're either part of the system or out of the system. and part telephone system may require you to dope. and we've seen this over the past seven days with kamila who has been found doping. and now instead of removing her from the event, they have put her back on the ice. the competitors don't want her there. the world is looking at her as a doping cheat. and then the ioc decides it's wise to tell everybody that no one is going to get medals for the team or the individual events. and that is going to be stuck on this young child, the psychological damage they're doing to her is simply unacceptable. >> and what about this excuse, rob, that her sample was contaminated by her grandfather's medication? the court documents show an amount that the head of the u.s. anti-doping agency says is not a trace level. >> yeah. i mean, if the world anti-doping is very clear about it. there is a principle of strict
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liability. so you're always responsible for what goes in your system. if there was a mistake there is a potential reduction from a four-year to a two-year exemption. but the ultimate authority relies on themselves. and shame on these organizations for putting this young child in this position. >> you have to look at the adults in her life. she is a minor. let's go back to 2014. russia participated in a sophisticated state sponsored doping scheme at the sochi games. if the international olympic committee had dealt with this properly back then, would russia not feel as emboldened now as they do to keep violating the rules? >> absolutely. i mean, time and time again, wada, the ioc and the arbitration of support has given russia a free pass. so there is no need for cultural change. so they continue business as usual. and we put that on the organizations. the organization i run now, global athlete, and the other independent athlete groups,
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we've been calling for reforms for the past seven years of these organizations, to have a 50-50 partnership with athletes and sport to assure this never happens again. as i said, it's politics over principle. and who loses out in the end? it's the athletes. we're seeing this again at the beijing games. >> rob, i appreciate you copping on. we'll have you back. i appreciate your >> congressman is selling mugs. showing the infamous picture.
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