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president biden trying to lower the temperature on the russia/ukraine crisis. calling for diplomacy. but warning the u.s. will act against russian aggression sending a direct message to the russian people. >> we're ready to respond to decisively to russian attack on ukraine. which is very much a possibility. give diplomacy every chance to succeed. we do not seek to destabilize russia. to the citizens of russia, you are not our enemy. >> neighbors speaking out about
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what happened the day ahmaud arbery was killed in the federal hate crime trial of three men convicted of murdering him. as one of the officers charged with violating george floyd civil rights takes the stand. in minneapolis. plus, new york city asian american community on edge. after a young woman is followed into her apartment and killed by an assailant. the latest in a string of violent crime. we have a lot to get to tonight. live to ukraine where cnn international correspondent is live for us. hello to you. thank you for joining us. really appreciate it. russia claim it's withdrawing some troops from the border. does anyone in ukraine believe that? president biden says there's still more than 150,000 russian forces on three sides of the country. >> that's a good point. it's certainly a case of mixed signals. it's a few thousand troops pulling back to bases after russia says they finished their exercises. but they're not moving far. that's significant.
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they're going back to bases that were close to the border anyway. these aren't the troops that traveled a cross the country to be in place. 150,000 or so other troops still very much in place. and according to the west, still poised to possibly attack. those troops continue their military exercises elsewhere in russia and belarus. close to the ukrainian border. and the military hardware still coming in. more readiness potential for war. so mixed signals for sure. >> ukrainians have tried to down play the panic. are you sensing a shift there tonight? they are asking nato for help now. >> yeah. nato says ukraine asked for more international help. as according to nato. prepares for large scale emergencies. which could affect the civilian population. things like heavy equipment. equipment to detect explosives. personal protection equipment. also communications, medical supplies and so on.
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the ukrainian government still urging calm. supporting diplomacy. obviously preparing for the worst. should it come. ukrainians themselves continue to go about their lives. they're not panicking. some who moved out of the capitol kyiv to here in the west of the country. because they're fearful. most don't have the option and to be frank most others are getting on with life. as we walk around the streets here. the concerns obviously growing though as time passes and no breakthrough on the diplomatic front. the russian foreign minister made it clear monday that there is room for more talks. and we saw germany chancellor in moscow earlier. and the polish and italian foreign ministers are planning trips to the russian capitol. the diplomacy continues. >> we woke up here with the news that there was a cyber attack that took out services on ukraine ministry of defense and several state owned banks. who are you learning about who
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may be responsible? or who is responsible. >> it's sort of set the cat amongst the pigeons. denial of service attacks on ukraine defense ministry. a couple bank web sites. it's important to note we don't know who is behind it. to be honest these types of attacks aren't necessarily sophisticated. so it could be anyone. it doesn't necessarily mean it's the russian government or anything like that. it does all add to the weight of worry here. and imagine you are a ukrainian. war with russian back separatist in the east now for eights years and surrounded on three sides by russian forces. that worry is understandable. >> michael holmes. appreciate it. be safe. talk to you soon. turning to the january 6 select committee issuing six new subpoenas today related to the fake electors who tried to make then president trump the winner in states he lost.
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joining me now former fbi director andrew mcabe. now a cnn senior law enforcement analyst. thanks for joining us. good evening to you. these subpoenas are targeting two members of trumps campaign and four gop officials in battlegrounds states. that on top of 14 other subpoenas last month tied to the fake electors. what is the critical thing to determine about this plot? >> this all comes back to the documents that the committee came across several weeks ago that indicated that these lists of fake electors, gop electors. had been submitted by some states to the national archives and process in effort to over turn the results of the election. the committee has been focussed on that. in the last several weeks. and have subpoenaed just about everyone you can think of that might have been involved in that activity. it is clear that they believe that this was a potentially a
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legitimate conspiracy to try to over turn the results of the election. and they are trying to see if they can hold the president or some of his advisers and supporters accountable or to indicate whether or not they were kind of the driving force behind a effort. >> it has quote credible evidence that the two officials subpoenaed today encouraged state legislators to appoint slates of fake legislators. electors. to after the results of the election. how big of a deal is that the campaign may have been directly involved in this scheme? >> it is a big deal. it's one more link in the chain. we know what happened at one end of the chain. we know that these states actually got fake electors, signed up. put them on the letters and sent the letters in. in effort to turn around the results. the other end of the chain you have the person who would have
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benefitted from that activity. of course the former president. so they're trying to connect the former president with what actually happened. so to know that someone from his campaign somebody working directly for his election interest, was actually in contact with the state officials. and trying to persuade them to do exactly what they did. really brings the two ends of the chain together. in a very damaging way for the trump folks. >> chairman thompson says they're looking for records and testimony. are these people likely to cooperate? do they have a choice? >> well, they don't technically have a choice. they have been subpoenaed. it's a lawful subpoena. you are required to comply with the law and request of the subpoena. they can try to challenge the subpoena by filing a suit in federal court. saying it's over broad or unfair. they shouldn't be subjected to it. the challenges are likely to go nowhere. they can comply and come in and refuse to provide information.
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and rely on invoke the fifth amendment right to self incrimination. and tell the committee nothing. ignoring the subpoena and doing nothing is really not a good plan for any of them. i would expect most will comply in one way or another. >> thank you very much. appreciate that. turning now to cnn senior political analyst, john avalon. a new book out today it is called lincoln and the fight for peace. i will be putting it on social media. a little bit later. reading it in the commercial breaks. so good. kirsten powers, the author of another great book. saving grace. i wrote a thing for. hope people like what i said about it. i enjoyed reading. thank you for joining us and congratulations to you both on the books. we heard president biden standing up for the right of countries to determine their own future supporting freedom. is he effectively making the case for why americans should care about what's happening with russia and ukraine? with so many problems here at home.
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>> yeah. i think the speech that he gave was meant to convey to americans that this is about american values. this is something that may require some sacrifice on the part of the americans and in terms of if biden is pushed to have to put sanctions on russia. that could result in higher gas prices for americans. that will be a sacrifice made in the name of american values. i think this is a pretty tough sell right now. i do think that the speech he gave was great. and i think a necessary thing to do. you need to bring americans along. it's bad timing in the sense americans are so exhausted. and the idea of having to make more sacrifices i think probably is going to have a -- a pretty short time period probably that americans can tolerate that. >> let's talk about the sanctions.
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that's what the president is doing. president biden threatening sanctions against russia but bipartisan efforts stalled in the senate and republicans are pushing their own plan. what does it say about our politics that even the middle of crisis like this, lawmakers can't work together. they can't get it together. >> well, it says that partisan politics doesn't end at the water edge anymore. there are competing proposals and democracy can be messy. it can be difficult. they're moving forward towards sanctions of some kind. and to make them punishing enough so the kremlin and putin pay attention. it's preferable to armed conflict. especially because ukraine is not part of the nato. the defense of the international order is nothing we can take for granted. difficulty is the excuse history doesn't accept. this international order has been hard won. and it needs to be defended. >> we have been talking about this for a while. this issue. and i just want to get your take on nine victims families.
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from the sandy hook elementary massacre. agreeing to a $73 million settlement with remmington. the manufacturer of the gun used. president biden is applauding the company being held liable. how big of a deal do you think this is for the kind of accountability? it's never happened before. >> it's incredibly momentous. something that in a way was i think unthinkable. and very similar i heard you talking before earlier. i thought the same thing. it remind you of how the cigarette and tobacco industry and manufacturers were never held accountable until they were. and i think it's going to -- it maybe the thing that can change this paradigm this thing that seems so unsolvable. even though it's so horrific that we live in a country where these kind of things happen.
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the rest of the world looks at us and thinks this is insane. because it is insane. and it's not the way we should be living. we shouldn't be worrying about children being shot in school. children shouldn't be worried about being shot in school. hopefully it represents some sort of huge change in our country. >> staff, teachers. nobody should have to worry about being shot in school. john, you have a new book out today. lincoln and the fight for peace. you write about how lincoln was on a mission to unite a divided country. it seems like there are a lot of parallels to our politics today. >> there are. partly it's a reminder we have been through far worse before. come out the other side. it's a cautionary tale about what happens when political parties divide. they deny legitimacy of a an elected president. his leadership we can look to as
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a president away from violent polarization. even in the middle of civil war. he never lost faith in his belief there was more that unites us than divides us in america. and remind us that diverse -- defending a diverse democracy is heroic at winning it in the first place. we need to be inspired by his example and look to it as a way to de polarize debates. this isn't a joke. the forces some people play with to divide in order to conquer are dangerous. and we just need to learn from history. be guided by history. i'm reminded by something ulysses s. grant said ten years after the civil war. if we have another civil war in the country, the dividing line won't be mason and dixen. it will be patriotism and intelligence on one side. and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other. >> sorry. i was sitting here reading the book.
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you can't see the return. lincoln and the fight for peace. author of "washington farewell." beautifully written book. i'm so proud of you. proud of both of you for your books. john is out today. go get it. thank you. appreciate it. with everything that we're dealing with in this country, the assault on the vote is still going on right now. i'll ask congressman james clyburn whether he thinks we'll have free and fair elections this fall. two loads of snot covered laundry. only one will be sanitized. wait, what? adding lysol laundry sanitizer kills 99.9% of bacteria detergent alone, can't.
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causing chaos for some voters. early voting started in texas yesterday. reports coming in of exactly what opponents feared. a huge increase in rejected ballots and issues around voting registration. we spoke to one texas voter who had her ballot rejected twice. >> i downloaded the correct form. i filled it out. and it got rejected again. second time. this time because i didn't include the form of id that was used when i originally registered to vote. which was 46 years ago. in this county. >> wow. joining me now to discuss. congressman james clyburn of south carolina. good evening. that voter on the board of directors for the league of women voters. she knows the rules. it still took 28 days and three tries to get a ballot. we're seeing these issues from the texas law and it is only one
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of the 19 states ha passed laws to restrict voting in 2021. how much disruption could the laws cause in the midterm? >> thank you for having me, don. it's going to be chaotic. no question about that. i have been on the phone earlier today as well as some virtual meetings with the all over the country. we're organizing now. to fight this kind of suppression. we know what they're doing in texas is designed to be able to deny voters the right to vote. we know that. what we're going to be doing is putting a back up for the all people to get acceptance. we are going to have a place for them to come to and make sure we do in person voting for all those who get rejected. you shouldn't have to go through this.
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this is a democracy. dependent upon the free and right to vote. anybody that is throwing up roadblocks to the right to vote or trying to destroy the democracy. republican party seem to be hell bent on establishing autocracy in the country. i would hope the people of good will will come together and do what is necessary to stop this in its tracks. so this country can continue this more perfect union. >> people are looking at democrats saying what are they doing. time is running out. it's highly unlikely they'll find a way to act and protect the ballot before fall midterms. do you have confidence we're going to be having free and fair elections for congress this fall? can you as a leading democrat promise the american people that? especially the people that supported the administration and
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democrats across the country getting into office. >> as you know we passed all the things in the house. and the majority and house of representatives. we passed all these bills and have been sent to the senate. now the senate is evenly divided. 50/50. we have two democrats who haven't been willing to get rid of the filibuster. which means that is 48. right now, we do not have the votes we need. to get this done in the senate. i'm hopeful that after seeing what's going on there in texas, and seeing the supreme court decision as it relates to alabama. three judge panel. two of the judges being trump appointees. say this is unfair. to african-americans. supreme court is now said okay, maybe unfair. but we'll let you have the election anyway.
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this is what we're up against. what we have to do is get people to understand that 50 democrats, 48 on board. we have two that we can't seem to get through to. >> that was my whole point about two democrats. about the democrats. you said you have two on board. you talked about how it affects people of color. let me play this and i'll continue on. the white house releasing this message from the president today. celebrating black history month. here it is. >> black history month is more than a celebration. it's a powerful reminder that black history is american history. black culture is american culture. black stories are essential to the ongoing story of america. since taking office, vice president harris and i have been proud to build a government that looks like america. with trail blazing black leaders in my cabinet and black american serving in roles across the administration. very soon, i'll be honored to nominate the first black woman in american history to serve on
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the united states supreme court. >> okay, so listen, the issue of voting and then he's also expected to pick a nominee this month. there's been backlash from certain republicans about that pledge. do you expect that this nominee is going to be treated fairly in the hearings? given how the things have gone? >> yes. i think so. this president doing what he has the power to do. nominated. eight african-american women to the court of appeal. these courts that eight equals all of the president's before him and that to me is what he can do. he's going to nominate an african-american woman. he is going to nominate an african-american woman. that's what he has the power to do. he doesn't have the power to get the vote of a person from a state that he the person that lost by 40 points, so that is the dilemma we have. you can't blame that on the
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democratic president. he's doing a exactly what he promised to do. and he's doing it in an equitable manner and appointed more people of color to the bench in this first year than any president in the history of the country. and he has three years to go. >> congressman, thank you so much. i hope we can work out where we're having free and fair elections come this fall. and the controversy dies down about the nominee for the supreme court. because we need someone qualified in every one i saw in contention seems to be very qualified woman of color. very qualified person in general. thank you for your time. i appreciate you joining us. >> thank you for having me. two major trials happening right now. in georgia, neighbors testifying about what they saw the day ahmaud arbery was killed. and in minnesota, the first ever testimony from one of the ex-officers in the george floyd case. plus, blood curdling screams in the middle of night.
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and in georgia, neighbors testifying in the federal hate crimes trial over the killing of ahmaud arbery. one saying the murder took place in front of his house. which quote didn't feel like home anymore after what's happened. he since moved. he has since moved. so joining me now cnn legal analyst and former l.a. county prosecutor. thank you. good to see you. let's get into this. this neighbor who testifies, dan. talked about his wife and baby at home. his wife trying to comfort the baby while quote someone was dying on the street in front of our house. he told a an emotional story. does emotion amount to anything when the prosecution is trying to prove a hate crime? >> well, obviously they have to have a lot more evidence. they have to be able to prove motive for the crime was racial. the reason why the prosecutor called this witness first is to really set the stage of here's someone beyond the people that we heard about.
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a human person who had the emotions talking about this person seeing him die in front of them. to the point where they keep seeing images in their mind. and had to move after that. remember he was home with his wife and baby. and the crime scene evidence that came in later showed there was a bullet that actually went through one of the houses nearby. so they were all in danger of acts done by the people. >> another neighbor testifying he actually called the non-emergency line for the police. when he saw ahmaud arbery walking around the house. that was under construction in the neighborhood. the defense did question him about racial motivation to call the police on ahmaud arbery. and he said there was none. but his actions are drastically different from what the mcmichaels and bryant did that day. >> right. he pointed out he said i have a gun. and i pulled the gun out when i was going to call the police. ahmaud arbery -- anybody. and that's the difference here. >> do me a favor -- there was a
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technical glitch as you were speaking. i want the audience to hear. repeat what you said, please. >> what he said was i have a gun. i actually pulled out when i went to call the police when i saw ahmaud arbery. but i didn't chase after him with the gun. nor did i shoot him with this gun. i think the prosecution is showing here's a reasonable response. if you think someone is trespassing, call the non-emergency phone line and let the police do their job. opposed to what the others the defendants in this case did. so egregious in their acts. the prosecution is going to bring up the racial an mouse evidence. so graphic and so raw and so emotional. it goes to show as to why the defendants treated ahmaud arbery the way they did on that day. and the prosecution is saying it's because of his race. it was because of the color of his skin they chose to decide to treat him the way they did. and ended up dead. >> loud and clear.
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>> let's turn to the civil rights trial in the kill of george floyd. former minneapolis officer testifying about his rough upbringing. he said the arrest of his father after an abusive incident motivated him to become a police officer in the first place. does this humanize him for the jury? >> sure. i think it does. i think that is why they're taking this calculated risk. all three of these defendants have said they're going to testify. because look they're having to combat a video. which is so compelling and so egregious. the only chance they have to be able to tell the jury their side of the story is to take the stand. the problem they have is they are going to get up and say what they did and tow today said i was the one in control of the charged with controlling the crowd. that was my job. i wasn't restraining george floyd in any way. if i was, i would have assessed the medical condition. i assumed everything was fine. because nobody was given him cpr.
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that's fine and dandy, you can try and point the finger at the other officers which i'm sure will happen in the case. there's three defendants testifying all in front of the same jury. but here's the thing, they're all police officers. they all have the duty to serve and protect and try to preserve life. he could see what was going on with george floyd. he could hear him cry out for help. he could see him struggle. he could see him in sign of distress. for him not to step in and do something is in violation of his duty. there were children at that scene. who can see that something needed to be done. trying to get something done. they would have stepped in if they could have. the police officers all had the duty to step in. and do something. >> let's move forward to tomorrow. we can expect. he's not done. he's got more cross-examination to come. then officers lane and king testify. do you think the testimony will help or hurt them? >> i think it will humanize them. but i think the bottom line is
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it's going to hurt them. lane had a little bit to argue. because he actually did say something. you can see it and hear it in the video. him talking to chauvin. saying expressing concern about george floyd condition. and saying maybe we should turn him on the side. he actually did say something. when he was turned down he let it sit. he said okay i guess so. and left it as it was. that's why he wasn't charged with the failure to intervene. the fact none of them did anything in the long run for nine and a half minutes is what the jury will look at. they're human and yes they chose to be police officers. that's all wonderful and good. what you did there on that day was egregious and a crime. >> we're glad to have you. thank you. nice addition here. >> thanks, don. woman followed into her apartment building only to be fatally stabbed. that story is next. ahead, prince andrew settles a sexual abuse lawsuit with
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the spike in violent crime nationwide hitting home for people here in new york city. especially in the asian american community. early sunday morning a 35 year-old woman was followed into her apartment in manhattan china town neighborhood. stabbed to death. a 25 year-old man is charged with her murder.
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though it is not clear if her ethnicity played a role in the attack. tonight people are frightened. more now from cnn. >> reporter: christina yuna lee, 35 years old. yet another asian american woman brutally killed. >> it's happening every time you turn around. the news is showing yet another victim. and it's hard to catch a breath. >> she was stabbed more than 40 times. say prosecutors. found in her bathroom naked from the waist up. it's unclear whether her race or ethnicity played a role in the attack the killing conjures fear all too common for asian americans and women everywhere. >> the guard is up. all the time. and it's been for a while. >> her apartment is right next to a subway station. officials say she took a taxi that night. or a car. something that happens a million times in this city. jumped from the car to the door of her apartment.
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police say that her alleged killer pushed into the door as she went in. followed her six floors up staying one floor behind her. when she opened her door he pushed into her apartment. neighbors heard calls for help. and dialled 911. and the calls went silent. >> it could have been me. it could have been anybody. in the building. >> police responded quickly. prosecutors say the alleged killer inside the apartment spoke to police through the closed door. pretending to be a woman. and telling them to go away. it took over an hour to get into the apartment. by that time, lee was dead. prosecutors say her alleged killer, 25 year-old assamad nash was found hiding under the bed. >> you didn't kill her because she was asian? >> i didn't kill anybody. >> nash has so far been charged with murder and burglary. more charges maybe coming. the legal aide society representing him has declined to
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comment. >> the killing another fear inducing chapter adding to concerns. over antiasian hate crimes. growing for years. in 2020 an asian man sprayed with a cleaning product febreze. a philippino man's face slashed last year. last week a korean diplomat punched in the face in what the police say was an unprovoked attack. and last month, michelle go. was shoved onto the subway tracks. directly in front of an oncoming train. >> there's a vulnerability there. and a sense of perceived weakness. towards asian american women. and asian american seniors. that perpetrators tend to be pulled towards. because we're seen as easy prey. >> a new york city counsel member says the rise in intensity of crimes against asian americans comes as little surprise. she blames an increase in homelessness.
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a strain on mental health services and the words repeatedly used by the former president. blaming china for the pandemic. >> kung flu. >> a national figure calling it kung flu, the chinese virus. and continuing to inflame racism and personify something that has hurt every single one of our lives into something that's tangible. where you can scapegoat and say it's their fault. >> the earlier today the people from the community and activists held a rally and a vigil at the park across the way. they walked to the front of the apartment and laid flowers at this memorial. that is growing to christine lee. in the manhattan district attorney says that it is still possible they are investigating whether they can bring charges of hate crime against the suspected murderer of miss lee. he's due in court this friday and we may learn more then. don. >> thank you very much. we'll talk about that as a
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matter of fact right now. bringing in our legal analyst here. joey jackson. good evening. let's get more information on the case and talk about the hate crime. the murder is particularly terrifying. being fouled into her building and then taken so long for police to get into the apartment. the suspect had a slew of recent charges. should he have been out on the streets? the problem with homelessness and mental health and all that. >> yeah, good evening to you. it's always important to examine and identify what the issues were that led to the person who was the suspect. and who alleged to have committed the murder. to be out in the first instance. there were misdemeanor offenses which he was charged and the misdemeanor offenses which he was charged he was given a desk appearance ticket. another matter an assault. he was released on the supervision of the court. and yes, you can make arguments
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as to whether or not a person should have remained in custody. at end of the day you cannot keep someone in custody forever. if the judge kept him under bail conditions, that's changed in new york city. after the bail reform law. at some point a person would be out on the street. and if it's not her, then who else would it be. it's a larger question than whether he should have been out. it relates to what we're doing with respect to this population. he apparently has a mental health. dealing with that. are we dealing with educational and other issues? dealing with issues relating to our bail reform laws? it's a lot more deeper and complex than simply whether or not he should have on the street in the first place. >> here's the thing, you see the video, you see the accounts, the attacks on the people. police are not calling this a hate crime. with the surge in crime against asian americans, and you see the video, many times it is the suspect is an african-american man.
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attacking an asian person. what do you expect to become of this part of the case? should it be a hate crime? >> yeah. i think that what we need to do is we need to absolutely look at and examine and every instance when you have an occasion whether it's an asian american or someone else, african-american or anyone. who is attacked by virtue of who they are or who people perceive them to be. that has to be identified. it needs to be investigated. and if appropriate, absolutely should be charged. the whole reason that you have hate crimes is that very purpose. if you are targeting people because of their ethnicity and who they identify with, because of origin. whatever the issues are. that has to be investigated. the police have to determine that occurred. and prosecutors have to prosecutor it. you have to actually have laws that deter people from committing crimes. otherwise as we know the crimes continue. and that can't happen in a big city like new york.
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it can't happen in a small city. it can't happen anywhere. and so, yes, we have to get a grapple around the issues. and they have to be stopped. if that means charges as a hate crime or whatever we need to do, we have to do it. enough is enough. >> yeah. i agree. thank you very much. appreciate it. prince andrew settling a sexual abuse lawsuit against him. what we know about his agreement with jeffrey epstein accuser virginia giuffre. next.
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with some more news stories to report to you, a major development in the sexual abuse lawsuit against prince andrew. he and his accuser, virginia giuffre, have reach and out of court settlement. giuffre alleged in the lawsuit that she was trafficked by epstein while underaged and forced to have sex with his friends, including the prince. a photo shows the then 17-year-old giuffre at him at ghislaine maxwell's london home. she claims andrew sexually abused her there and in two other incident, while allegedly knowing she was underage. he denied the allegation. as part of the settlement, andrew will make a substantial donation to giuffre's charity in support of sexual abuse. the exact amount is unknown. tonight i want to send condolences to the family of pj o'rourke.
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