don don lemon tonight starts with don lemon. >> but it is sometimes, though, when you're here sitting. >> hello, i'm not don lemon. sorry to disappoint the masses. he'll be back. >> nobody thinks i'm you. i could never look like you. of course we're going to cover the big news, laura, that's happening in ukraine. but i wanted to ask you about something. all of these things we're seeing, the things happening in the mall, ahmaud arbery with the mcmichaels, the n-word they used. hearing that word is tough for a lot of people, even for people of color and a lot of folks. what do you think about the use of that word and obviously people shouldn't be using it in the way that they did, but there's a proliferation that have word in the culture. >> in the culture of how it's used by other black people you're talking about?

i think the use of the word is not appropriate, period. but i tell you this. one of the things my father always said to me was never delegate your joy, and never delegate any power to somebody to make them believe a single word is something that will reduce you to something less than you are. they can wield up and i'm not fine when i hear it, don't get me wrong, but the idea of handing over one's power completely to let somebody win, to believe that you now think less of yourself because they lack the vocabulary to articulate what their grievance really is, that's something i often had it been and the ideas of reclaiming power and how it's used. what's most shocking in some respects is the overall climate of this, don. we're talking about the clawing back of voting rights in this country like it's 1964 before the 1965 voting rights act and the language that was used. you could essentially look at any era in american history and

it would feel evergreen. that is abn abomination. >> sometimes sanitizing doesn't help depending on the context of the word. sometimes when we don't say it, it's like people who are fighting not to teach history in the classroom because they don't want to be offended or they don't want other people to be offend. so i think there are times when you should use it for impact and other times when it's not appropriate. it's so interesting the conversation we're having on certain times of the day. like on television, i definitely wouldn't say it on a morning show. >> i think to myself even today before the broadcast, how do you say it? i'm not like you, i haven't been doing this my whole life and you still look like a professional and not over 22, don lemon.

but as an audience member and somebody who's a consumer of media as well, oftentimes what we'd say in a courtroom versus what we want out there, it feels in many ways like, are you perpetuating it? are you complicit? and the legislative of this term, is there something we can do to arrest it? there are so many words and you wonder how does this get passed down from generation to generation that people know how to wield it in that way. >> we're going to talk about casual racism coming up now. >> i can't wait. >> but i love having this conversation with you. we're the right two people to have it in this moment. listen, i just want to tell the audience -- i'll tell them after. i'll let you go. see you tomorrow. >> thank you, don lemon. >> thank you, thank you, thank you. this is "don lemon tonight," thank you for watching. i'm not actually going to say the word. i usually like saying that word when it's -- not like saying the word, that's the wrong way to say it. it's important to say that word

when you're pointing out someone who's using it in an offensive way the, but i understand it offends some people to hear that word, so there's always a tug of war for a news anchor or for someone like laura who's an attorney who has to recite something in the courtroom. so just be cognizant when i say n-word tonight, the person or people actually wrote the actual word and they said the actual word. they didn't say n-word, they said the actual word. so we're going to talk about racism rearing its ugly head, ugly, ugly head in a courtroom this georgia. disturbing evidence in the federal hate crime trial of three men kwiconvicted of murdeg ahmaud arbery. even armed with all the

evidence, the prosecution still has to prove the murder of ahmaud arbery, who was chased down and shot to death in broad daylight while he was jogging in a georgia neighborhood. they have to prove that brutal crime was motivated by hate. but this is more than a legal story, though it is that. it is that. it is about justice for all, black, white, brown. but it's also about the america that we live in, the america where every day there are people who feel completely free to speak hate, to text it to each other. they don't do it out in the open, sometimes they do, but usually they don't. to make jokes loaded with it, to laugh about it. it's the kind of everyday hate that doesn't always end up in court. but it's there just the same. infecting our country. now, as i said, i'm going to read you some of the text messages the prosecution introduced today, and i have to warn you, they're full of

offensive, racist language. there's this text exchange between travis mcmichael and a friend, a random ordinary change talking about a local cracker barely restaurant. i quote, this cracker barely is full of some other kinds of people. mcmichael replying, and remember i'm quoting here, need to change the name from cracker barely to n-word bucket, except they didn't write n-word, they wrote the full word. and it's that tough for you to hear. if that is tough for you to hear, if you're offended by that, you should be. there's another text message between mcmichael and a friend from march 16, 2019, discussing his new job and why he liked that he didn't work with black people. and i quote again, they ruin everything. that's why i love what i do, not an n-word in sight. in your head, didn't say n-word, wasn't that cute. casual racism.

right out there in the open. and then there's the whatsapp message between william roddie ryan and a friend after discovering they were dating a black man, this message dated february 19th, 2020, just four days before ahmaud arbery was murdered. quote, yeah, she has her n-word now. i've been calling that for a while now. not surprised. casual racism. ahmaud arbery's family didn't want a plead for his killers in the hate crime trial. and with all the, you can certainly understand why. >> what i thought all along was true , that travis killed ahmaud not because of ahmaud committed a crime, it's because he was black and because travis was truly a racist. >> it's just really a shame that they got that much hate in them out there for people.

it's just really a shame. >> man, that's a sickness. >> strong words from ahmaud arbery's family. those words in that courtroom today are a sickness. they're like poison. how did those words land when you hear them? for people like me, it's like the words are slapping you in the face. the hate, the racism, right? again, it's so offensive be because, as i was saying to laura earlier, people don't want to teach about racism in school. they don't want to hear the full thing. imagine how offensive it is for black kids in school to learn about slavery, but the idea is so white kids won't feel offended or feel bad when they hear it. that's not what people call you in public. people actually call me the word.

it's not surprising. still shocking. and all this comes as outrage is growing over a video showing what happens when police break up a fight between a black teen and a white teen at a new jersey mall. the video shows the boys arguing, fingers are pointed, punches are thrown. [ bleep ]. >> oh, [ bleep ]. >> yo. >> oh, [ bleep ]. >> so the black teen ends up on the ground, two breakage water township officers arrive. a female officer pulls the white even the away and pushes him to the couch without handcuffs, while the other officers presses a black teen to the ground, kneels on his back. the female officer coming over to kneel on the teen's upper

back while they place him, and only him, in handcuffs. >> [ bleep ]. >> new jersey governor phil murphy saying, quote, the appearance of what is racially disparate treatment is deeply disturbing. we'll have much, much more on this tonight when i talk to that black teen, his mother, and their attorney, ben crump. and there's news in another big legal case tonight. president joe biden rejecting his predecessor's latest attempt to keep records under wraps, this time it's white house visitor logs, including appointments for individuals allowed into the white house complex on january 6th. the national archives sending a letter to the former president today informing him that documents will be delivered to the committee in two weeks. and then there's the escalating crisis in ukraine. turns out there's a good reason for the white house to be skeptical about russia's claims that some of its troops are withdrawing.

tonight there are 7,000 more russian troops along the ukraine border in spite of moscow's claim. telling "the new york times," quote, they received a lot of attention for that claim both here and around the world, but we now know it was false. the white house warning the window for potential attack is still open. >> the bottom line is this. we're prepared either way. we're prepared to engage in diplomacy with russia if it's serious about it. we're also prepared for renewed russian aggression. >> i'll bring in cnn military analyst, retired colonel cedric leighton. thank you so much. i appreciate you joining us. this is serious. i've been telling the audience and every guest about this. i have a bad, bad feeling about it. let's hope that i'm wrong. but the u.s. now says russia has added 7,000 troops in the border despite claims from moscow that it was pulling back. there's also this new satellite image that shows tactical bring

being built less than seven miles from ukraine's border. what does this signify to you? >> good evening. like you said, this is one of those worst-case scenarios where everything is coming together. on the one hand, the russians are saying all kinds of relatively good things diplomatically, but their actions are telling us a different thing, they're telling us a different story, and the story is that they're continuing to prepare for an invasion or some kind of military operation that is not going to be good for ukraine. that's basically what it looks like right now. >> so tactically, what should we be seeing on the ground if they were actually, you know, pulling back as they said they were? what should we be seeing? >> so you'd be seeing some real movement of troops. for example, you have all these forces belarus, which are engaged in an exercise. so you probably wouldn't expect those to be pulled back unless they ended the exercise early.

that exercise is supposed to end on the 20th of this month. but what you would be seeing is forces coming back from the ukrainian/russian border. they would be pulling back to areas that are further back like to a city that's still close to the border, but further away from the russian/ukraine border itself. on the other hand, you have movement in the crimea. you are seeing more helicopters going down to crimea. that should not be happening if they're withdrawing forces and if they're willing to talk, really willing to talk -- right now. >> colonel, the last couple seconds of what you said cut out. can you please repeat it. >> sure. when you're looking at what's going on in crimea, for example, they have all these helicopters, 60 helicopters that deployed to crimea. that should not have been happening. you should not see any new deployments of forces to the front, to the border, and that's

what you're seeing. that is the kind of thing that shows that they are not serious about negotiating. they are more serious about moving their forces forward, keeping them prepared for an offensive operation, and that's exactly what's going on right now. >> we are learning tonight that the u.s. navy aircraft had an extremely close encounter with multiple russian military jets over the mediterranean this weekend according to multiple u.s. officials. now, let's be very clear here. the u.s. is not going to war with russia over ukraine, but do you worry amid rising tensions mistakes or unintended encounters could happen and that could be a hornet's nest? >> it sure could. that's one of the biggest problems that we're dealing with here, don, is that law of unintended consequences. when it comes to the aircraft incidents, one russian aircraft supposedly got within five feet of an american aircraft, that's way too close. there is no reason that any aircraft should be that close to

another aircraft, and you're looking at the possibility of miscalculation, the possibility of accidents. those kinds of things are very dangerous in a situation like this, and a miscalculation of that type will spiral into an international incident, an international incident could lead to much worse things and we don't need that, neither side needs that right now. >> we're lucky to have you come on and talk about this. thank you, colonel leighton, i appreciate it. >> you bet, don. anytime. so offensive, racist messages read out in the trial of three men killing ahmaud arbery. how will a jury react? >> ahmaud didn't know that he was targeted. and he had no clue. this breaks my heart over and over again.

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disgusting racist text and social media messages from two of the white men convicted of murdering ahmaud arbery disclosed in their federal hate crimes trial today, an fbi testifying to what investigators found. a warning, the language i'm about to share with you is graphic. it's racist, and it's extremely offensive. the first text message was between travis mcmichael and a friend. mcmichael was discussing a new job saying, quote, they ruin everything, that's why i love what i do, not an n-word in sight. another text message from 2019 referenced mcmichael meeting up with a friend at a local cracker barely restaurant. the friend says this cracker barely up here is full of some other kinds of people. travis replies needs to change the name to n-word bucket. on social media, mcmichael post add comment reacting to a video of primarily black teenagers showing a white teenager being beaten up by a mob.

travis commented on the video on a facebook post and says i shoot them all in full saiga would have done wonders. that's a type of semiautomatic gun. an fbi analyst testified about messages found in the phone of william "roddie" bryan that shows bias. on martin luther king jr. day between brian and a friend quotes brian as saying happy boot lip day a derogatory name for a black person and i worked like an n-word today. here with me right now cnn's nick valencia, who was in the courtroom. thanks for joining us this evening. these messages are stomach-turning. what was the reaction to the testimony in the courtroom from the defendants, the jurors, and the arbery family. >> i sat directly behind ahmaud arbery's family, don. they were noticeably disgusted by what they heard. a lot of us in the gallery were

disgust bid what we heard. but specifically ahmaud arbery's family, they were occasionally shaking their heads as they heard this evidence presented that the mcmichaels and roddie bryan regularly used racist language. at one point marcus arbery senior got up he was so offended. i asked what was going through your mind? he said i was so sickened to know that someone like that lived around me, that lived around the children in this community. he said after today there should be no doubt in anyone's mind that ahmaud arbery was murdered for jogging while black. >> i think we have a sound bite here. >> because he was a young black man. you see -- you see all the racism they were doing on their facebooks and stuff. they ain't kids. if a kid black, they hated him. you see what they were saying about a little kid. that should get everybody to

wake up. they hate black people that bad. it's a bad -- it's a bad sickness for this whole generation, this whole world, not just the black people. it affects white people too. >> we're also looking for reaction from the jurors. remember, three of them are black, one of them is latino. they sat mostly attentive, listening to the evidence. it was a very difficult day in court for many people in that courtroom, don. >> just awful. nick valencia, thank you very much. i want to discuss with a former district attorney from georgia. thank you so much for joining us. this is gross hearing this stuff. i just want to read a social media post uncovered by the fbi intelligence analysts relating to racial violence. in one example, travis mcmichael replied with a video where a black man put barbecue sauce on a white man's head. this was allegedly a humorous video. mcmichael responded, i'd kill

that effing n-word. it relates directly to violence. but does it prove that ahmaud arbery's murder was a hate crime? >> you know, i'm glad to be with you. i'm sorry we're having to talk about this. let me say one thing i've enjoyed listening to mr. arbery, the father, speak candidly from his heart. that was moving. this is the difficulty with a hate crime prosecution. no matter how disgusting and sickening, racist comments that somebody might make, that just gives a picture of their character. but it doesn't necessarily prove the hate crime. i mean, that's a little tough to explain except that you got to actually say that mr. arbery was killed because of his race, that that was a motivator in the killing. and the government is going to have to approve that. that's why we're looking for comments that were close in

time, text or facebook postings close in time. that's why the comment we heard that mr. brian relayed that he heard at the scene right after ahmaud was shot, that honorable comment. that's one -- horrible comment. remember we prosecute people for what they do. we don't prosecute people for what they think, no matter how disgusting they may be. >> a set of whatsapp messages uncovered by investigators discuss roddie bryan discovering his daughter was dating a black man. four days, quote, yeah, she has her n-word now. i've been calling that for a while now, not sprsurprised. how should a jury weigh that especially since it was sent four days before ahmaud was killed? >> they need to weigh it and put it into context and think about it in the totality of the circumstances.

what's interesting in this case is this case is not about whether or not there was a murder. there was. this is now simply a case about what the motivation for the murder was. so if you think back to the state case, the defendants almost created their own defense now talking about, well, we didn't do it because it was a young black man running in our neighborhood, we did it because we tried to enforce the law and we were going to deputize ourselves, i guess, and do a citizen's arrest. that's going to be the theme we'll hear going forward. in this case, the jury is going to be overwhelmed with this information that's coming in, these horrible text messages and that's going to start to paint the picture. it's just going to depend now where the government can fill in the rest of the painting to find out, you know, can we actually link and can we give enough information to the jury for them to link the killing with racial motivation. you could have the sorriest people saying the sorriest things about other folks, but you still have to tie the

motive. did on that day, the fact that ahmaud was a black man and these gentlemen obviously had racist thoughts, then, you know, could they make that ultimate connection for the jury. >> what other elements will prosecutors need to present to the jury beyond messages from before the killing to make it clear that it was about arbery's race? >> you know, it's going to be interesting to see whether or not they bring in evidence of, again, the comment that mr. brian overheard. it's going to be interesting to see whether or not they talk about things like the old confederate flag and those types of things, whether or not they paint that picture. tl there may be other comments we're not privy too yes. we didn't get into the racial evidence during the state case. i think that was a smart move by the assistant district attorney at that time because she didn't have to prove motive. here we may start to hear other things that have been said.

who knows? we may hear something that's been said to somebody who's a cell mate, somebody who's been locked up with them that they may have run their mouth to. that seems to get folks in trouble all the time because they can't keep their mouths shut when they get into trouble. we just don't know. that's the kind of evidence i would be looking for. what do we have in a close proximity to the shooting that tells me this is not just a horrible event, this is a case that because of his race he was hunted down. it may seem obvious to us, and a lot of us because we're so invested -- we have invested in him because we watched his murder. but the government is going to have to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt to the jurors. >> i have to ask you, since you're from joorjs you have wo -- georgia, you have worked in the community for years. are you surprised at this language, even in private? we would hope this kind of hatred doesn't exist anymore. i'm not shocked.

i'm from louisiana, the deep south. i hear people doing it all the time. but these messages show that, you know, it's disturbing. it's not the case that people don't do that. they do do it. >> yeah. i'd like to tell you that i'm surprised, and i think it's a shame that i can't say that surprised. what i tell folks that aren't from the south is don't believe that all of us are like that. you wouldn't have heard that language in my house from my children. so it's disgusting. there's no other way around it and there's nothing that you could say about it. and i hope that we find a place where we carry some of the spirit again of mr. arbery, who's been talking to us straight from his heart, in my opinion, about how, you know, we got to live together and get along and treat each other with respect no matter what the color of our skin is. >> thank you, michael. i appreciate it.

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so i want you to sit down and watch this. two teenagers getting into a fistfight at a new jersey mall.

when police arrive, the black teenager was held to the ground and handcuffed while the white teenager wasn't. it is sparking outrage and-a of racial bias. cnn's athena jones has more on the story. >> reporter: accusations of racial bias by police after they broke up a fight between a pair of teenagers, one black, one white at a new jersey mall. a now-viral video shows the teens having a heated discussion. the white even the pointing his finger in the face of the black teen who pushes the white teen's hand away. the white even the then shoves the black teen, and the two begin to tussle. at one point the white teen tackling the black teen and pinning him to a couch then throwing him to the ground. when police arrive to break up the fight, a female officer pulls the white even the away and pushes him to the couch without handcuffs. while the other officer frpress

the black teen to the ground and kneeling on his back while they place him and only him in handcuffs. >> oh, no. hello [ bleep ]. >> reporter: >> reporter: treatment some viewed as racially biased. one bystander explaining in surprise as police handcuff the black teen. >> yo, it's because he's black. >> 14-year-old kye asked that his last name not be used. >> i was confused. why they saw me as a bad person. like, as aggressive. >> reporter: the eighth grader telling the fight began when he stooped up for a 7 grader who was being picked on by a high school student. >> if they don't know how to treat the situation and deal with the situation equally and fairly, then they shouldn't be

able to deal with the situation at all? new jersey governor phil murphy saying -- >> i'm deeply disturbed by what appears to be a racially disparate treatment in the video. we are underscore with emphasis that we're committed to the truest between law enforcement on one hand and the communities they serve on the other. >> reporter: the naacp new jersey state conference calling for the officers involved to be removed from the force, pending an investigation. and saying despite years of talk about bias training and accountability, when bridgewater police found two youths fighting, the immediate reaction was to aggressively throw black child to the ground. at the same time, the white youth was carefully eased onto a couch and treated like a victim. kye's mother telling wcbs -- >> maybe they could have broken up the fight and set aside and called their parents, no cuffs , no aggression, dealt with them like they were teenagers. >> reporter: asked what they want to see happen to the

officers -- >> fired. >> i'm not happy about it and i do want those two cops to be-to-become unemployable. that's what i would like. >> the bridgewater township police department saying in a facebook post it knows the video of the incident has upset members of the community and is asking county prosecutors to conduct an internal affairs investigation. the somerset county prosecutor's office says it is investigating the fight itself and the police response to it. the police department says it has received additional videos from members of the community and both the department and the prosecutor's office is "r" asking anyone who has a video of the incident to get in touch with them. don? >> athena jones, thank you so much. kye is here, so is his mother, ebony, and their attorney, benjamin crump. we'll speak after this. [limu emu squawks] woo! nenew personal record, limu! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty. ♪

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there is outrage after a video showing two new jersey police officers breaking up a fight between two teens in a new jersey mall. police pinning 14-year-old kye to the ground, handcuffing him, while leaving the other teenager unca uncuffed. kye is with me along with his mother and attorney ben crump. thank you for joining us, we prior to it this evening. kye, i'm sorry this happened to you. us this began when an older teenager who happens to be white seen on the video was bullying another kid. so tell us what happened next. what went on? >> so he was messing with my friend. he was kind of bullying because he knew he was older. i didn't like that. so decided to do something about it and it turned into a whole fistfight. he started -- i was mad about

it. and then we end up on the ground, cops came over, they tackled me, put their knee in my back, and then the cop that was dealing with him came over to help handcuff me. [ inaudible ] >> put you in handcuffs. and i understand they took you away to a holding area, right? >> yes. >> yeah. so what was going through your mind as the officers were handcuffing you and keeping you on the ground and then the white teen was just left there on the couch? >> i kind of felt like the cops were, like, going along with what the older kid was saying him about being bigger and stronger and superior. i felt like they were agreeing to it. >> what do you mean by that? if i could speak up, please. >> i felt they were treating him like at the office superior to me and agreeing with the fact that he knew he was superior.

he, like, thought he was superior. >> ebony, teenagers get into fights sometimes. you know, it happens. it's not unheard of behavior. do you think there's any reason to have two fully grown adults holding your son down in the first place? what did you think of the treatment and the difference how they treated your son and the other teen? >> i think that it doesn't take two adults, it doesn't. i just -- i just -- i just can't understand it. i don't. i keep trying to wrap my mind around it and no possible scenario does it make sense to me. i hate to say this, but if it wasn't for race, then what is it? what made them tackle my son and not the other kid? what made them be so aggressive with my son and not the other kid? why is the other kid sitting

down looking at my son be humiliated and put into cuffs? it just doesn't make sense. that makes me angry. >> what does this do when there's already so much mistrust between black communities and police? what if there hadn't been so many people recording this on their phone, ebony? >> it could have been worse. i feel like if it wasn't in a mall setting where there were so many eyes -- i can't imagine if it was in any other scenario. that's scary, especially kn knowing, you know, -- especially knowing what has happened before. it's just scary to think of it. and i would like to, you know, have us trust the cops. i'm not saying all cops are bad, but there are a few out there that feel they are above the law, i would say.

i just -- i just -- i just don't understand to be honest. >> ben, did anybody explain to you why he was handcuffed and the other teen wasn't? >> no, they haven't, don lemon. and the only thing as ebony said, it has to be the racial factor because when you think of her son kye doing exactly what you want children to do, to stand up for other children against bullying, and he was the hero in all of this, yet the police treated him like the menace. why is it the black kid is presumed guilty and the white kid is presumed innocent? the black kid is face down with a knee in his back and the white kid was allowed to sit on the couch and observe him being humiliated. why is the black kid put in handcuffs, falsely detained, and

taken to a security facility, while the white kid is allowed to leave scott free, when we know now he's the initial i instigator? it troubles us and we have to fix this society because if we allow this to be swept under the rug, it leads to what happened to ahmaud arbery, it leads to what happened to trayvon martin where our children are being profiled based on the color of their skin in the worst type of way. >> ben, the new jersey naacp is calling for the officers involved in breaking up this fight to be immediately removed. do you and the family agree with that? >> i think the family has already expressed they want them to be held accountable, and if this is what they call good policing, then they don't want them on the police force because, as ebony said, they had cameras here. don, what do they do to our

children when our cameras aren't on the incident. >> ebony, you were saying absolutely. >> absolutely, yes. i want their badges taken away. if they'll do it now, i'm sure they've done it before -- what will they do in the future? if you do something, you can do it again. >> kye -- >> it might be worse. >> kye, you're going to be okay? >> yes. >> ben, before we go, you also represent wander cooper-jones, ahmaud arbery's mother. i want your reaction to the testimony in the federal hate crimes trial and whether it shows a racial motive. >> i believe, as wanda and marcus, ahmaud's parents have said, all along, they lynched him because he was jogging while black. everything from the 911 call to all the text messages say that

this was a racially motivated murder, and they should be convicted of a hate crime. >> ben, thank you very much. and again, our thanks to ebony and kye. we appreciate you are joining us. best of luck. look, keep us updated. we want to know so the nfl is facing a class action lawsuit alleging racial discrimination, so what do they do? they lawyer up. and take this they're going big. they're hiring the first black female attorney general in u.s. history, loreta lynch. et t the e from the start. no expensive dealerships. no comommissions. no pressure. only buying a car on your time knowing the low price you see on our site is the low price you'll get. in fact, this is how our customers have saved literally hundreds of millions of dollars with us versus dealerships. at carvana, we don't just say we're going to save you money, we save you money. stuff. we love stuff.

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