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>> and that is the refrain here. ukraine and russia are deeply tied. putin is right about that. he's just wrong about what those ties mean. ukrainians we met here in laviv are fiercely patriotic and will not yield easily. thanks so much for joining us and reminder that this weekend, to watch new original series on the life of linden shjohnson, "j triumph and tragedy" sunday 9:00 eastern. president biden says he is convinced that vladimir putin has made up his mind to invade ukraine and it will. within days. the president gave specifics about a possible attack including it will target the country's capital of kyiv, i'm john burman in for anderson, this is by the far the most definitive we heard from president biden about the plans and scope, especially about kyiv, a city for millions. ask twice, this is what
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president biden said about putin's decision. >> reporter: and do you have any indication about whether or not president putin made a decision to invade? do you feel he was confident to have made that decision already? >> as of this moment i'm convinced he's made the decision. we have reason to believe that. >> reporter: you are convinced that president putin is planning to invade ukraine, is that what you just said a few moments ago? >> yes. >> reporter: is diplomacy off the table then. >> no. until he does, diplomacy is always a possibility. >> reporter: what reason do you have to believe he is considering that option at all? >> we have a significant intelligence capability. >> now, onno one can state definitively an invasion will occur, only vladimir putin can do that, what we do know is what administration officials have seen from the intelligence, one official tells cnn nearly half of russian forces surrounding ukraine are in attack position
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and that the russian military has continued to move forces toward the border. we also have more new satellite imagery tonight, these come to us from the space technology company maxar which says they show a substantial increase in russian helicopter forces deployed to the ukrainian border. that same defense official also spoke of a destabilization campaign by the russians ahead of any possible invasion. it's something president biden alluded to as well with accusations of a disinformation campaign as well as a false flag operation involving what the u.s. says was a staged attack on a russian-made jeep in one of the break-away eastern cities. and then there's the threat of cyber attacks, the u.s. and uk both publicly blamed for attacks on bank websites this week and today here in the united states, officials met with representatives from some of the nation's biggest banks to discuss the possibility of cyberattacks by the russians. as we've done every night this week, we want to talk to our reporters in the key locations
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as only cnn can, our chief white house correspondent kaitlan collins, chief international correspondent clarissa ward in the ukrainian capitol of kyiv and jill doherty in moscow now, cnn contributor and expert on russia at the wilson center in washington. kaitlan, first to you, obviously the remarks from president biden are hugely significant, most definitive characterization to date of russia's intentions, what makes the president so sure in what sort of diplomat, efforts remain on going? >> reporter: i think what makes them so sure, john is the intelligence, and the president citing the capability they have earlier there when he was speaking with reporters just briefly on this but what we're hearing from source as really what the president says today matches and lines up with what they have been seeing and reading in the intelligence they've been looking at and pouring over for the last several days but what's notable from the shift in the president, no one has said this publicly yet, even biden himself has said that he guessed that president putin would go into ukraine, said this at a press conference
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a few weeks ago but repeatedly said only putin knows what he's knowing to do and even top aides aren't sure if he made up his mind. but president biden saying today, his clearest indication yet he does believe the russian leader made up his mind to go into ukraine and i think it's also based on what you're seeing happening on the ground. defense secretary was saying yesterday he's been a soldier before and when you're having this kind of build-up you don't just do it for no reason so of course president biden did leave the door open a little bit to diplomacy today, they obviously have tried to go down that path several times with the kremlin. that is something rejected so far and he did say looking at that meeting on wednesday that's supposed to happen between secretary blinken and the russian foreign minister that that is still planned for wednesday but of course if russia does invade before then, president biden will consider the door to diplomacy closed. >> so clarissa how are ukrainian leaders responding to all this? >> reporter: well, you know, as can be expected, there is a slight difference of opinion
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here among the leadership about president biden's comments. they don't dispute that his position is based on solid intelligence, but an aide to president volodomyr zelensky has told cnn, quote, it's impossible to say with certainty what exactly is going on in the thoughts of the russian leadership. and he went on to say that essentially, the real focus should be on the most important part, in their opinion, of what president biden said was that the door to diplomacy is still open until there is an actual invasion of sorts. it's not entirely surprising to hear them talk in these tones. we have heard them disagree with the u.s. on a number of occasions, obviously, that's in part to try to tamp down any sense of panic or any sense of looking weak to the ukrainian public, but on the other hand, john, you are seeing other ukrainian officials responding to what's been happening in the eastern part of the country, in
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these break-away republics where they have been staging what ukrainian and u.s. officials are calling sort of false-flags or staged provocations. they have been bussing people, who have been allegedly coming under heavy fire to the border, to russia, trying essentially, it appears, to create some kind of an elaborate manufactured refugee crisis, again, as been speculated many, many times before, that this could give president putin some kind of a pretext with 600,000 russian passport holders in that part of the country to launch some kind of an incursion. we've heard ukrainian leaders warning of the danger of that and also dismissing his theater and his provocations, these claims, from pro-russian separatist leaders in the far east and part of the country that they have been coming under sustained attack and that there is an imminent large-scale offensive planned. so i think you're hearing two
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different sides from the leaders which makes sense, given the context of the fact that ukraine is in an awfully awkward and difficult position here, john. >> so jill doherty in moscow, what do you think we're going to hear from the kremlin and how is all of this playing in russian media? >> you know, the comments came out kind of late here in moscow. so initially, there wasn't really that much, but there was a comment that we noted from the spokesperson to the foreign ministry, maria zahad aadava an she said the most monsterous thing about this is not one word about the civilian population of donbas, so what she's saying is really in line with what we've seen today which is part of this really heavy information war taking place right now and that was constant repetition of video coming in from the donbas
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region, clarissa just referred to it, pictures of mothers and children being loaded on to buses, leaving for russia, afraid, supposedly, that they're going to be attacked by the ukrainians and the ukrainian government saying they have no intention of attacking that region. and then also, we have president putin today, he met with president lukashenko ohf belaru, remember belarus where all this major military exercises have been held, and president putin said, essentially, there's an easy way to solve this and he said all they have to do, all kyiv has to do is come to the table and talk with those leaders of the donbas region. but ukraine, so far, has said they're not going to do that. and then finally, john, just one other, perhaps, visual that we will see on saturday, these are the strategic military exercises that will have missile and be
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probably quite impressive, they will be held on saturday. president putin will be there, and this is not to say that they are going to use nuclear missiles at all. i think president biden referred to that, but it's a symbol that they are, they can change the equation. they are, of course, the other superpower when it comes to nuclear missiles. >> kaitlan, do you have any reporting on what president biden plans to do for the weekend now? >> reporter: he'll be here at the white house monitoring this because today when he came out and gave the most direct statement yet, the next question is, is that the step putin takes? and the white house said they hope that is not what he actually does, that they've been very clear, they know they're very up front with their predictions here and their estimates of what he is going to do and secretary blinken said yesterday he hopes he's wrong, that he doesn't actually go in but seems pretty clear he's going to so we're told president biden is going to be here at the white house monitoring this, meeting with national security team, potentially having more
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calls with world leaders which he's done basically on a daily basis, and yet several of them on the phone earlier today talking about these earlier developments over the last 24 to 44 hours or so and initially had been planning to go to one of his delaware homes which is pret pretty routine for him on the weekends, ended up staying in washington and one thing we should note he'll get dispatches from is top security aides are all in europe right now, you look at defense secretary, he's there, national security adviser, jake sullivan in brussels today, and as well as secretary lincoln so obviously, hearing from them what they're hearing on the ground from european leaders as well. >> kaitlan collins, clarissa ward, jill doherty, thank you for being with us tonight. i'm joined now by cnn military analyst, retired lieutenant general mark, army general,
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thank you so much for beeing wih us. were you surprised to hear president biden say point blank that vladimir putin made up his mind to invade. >> i was isurprised to hear it o objectively that he must have some evidence, john, and listening to your conversation, it really struck me that what we're seeing -- you remember i told you last week, there would be a lot of preparatory moves, the military calls that a synchronization matrix, following one thing after another that will lead to d-day, if you call d-day the day the attack starts, we're in d minus one or d minus two now, we've seen indicators of that all week, i go back to when president biden refused to delay talking to mr. putin on tuesday and wanted to do it on i think sunday instead. that tells me he had some information that things were
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going to start earlier. listening to the president today, very subjectively talking about what might happen, that tells me we're reading the russians' mail. i think he's got exactly what the synchronization events are and seem to be occurring in sequences, first the limited cyber attack in ukraine, that's the russians seeing what would happen, then the attack, artillery attack on the school how ukrainians would respond, then the attack, the false flag operation and later today, not mentioned was the bombing of the pipeline in lahanska i think it was, it all leads to something, the taking of all the refugees out of the area, all certainly could lead to something. the president still saying the potential for diplomacy and to stop this, there is a potential, like how eisenhower depended on
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whether, on d-day to delay the d-day landings. putin could certainly stop. there's no indicators that he is just yet, though. >> synchronization matrix, a new term but really describes what you have seen. over the last few days. also, biden, his relative servitude that the russians are going to attack kyiv, the ukrainian capitol, city of 3 million people, like the population of chicago, how would the russians go about doing that? >> i don't know, john, but what i could say is it could. in a series of ways. it could be just a massive artillery barrage on the city and that could kill a lot of civilians which would be horrific and it would be a war crime. it could be a limited assault and i'll give you another key word tonight to start thinking about, spetsnatz soldiers the
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russian special orpperations gu like our delta force. could be a faint to the north while russia does more in the donbas region. i don't know, when you're talking about an operation with this many troops around, you allow yourself as a commander or putin as the commander in chief to have a variety of options and he's playing this very well. again, may be using the synchronization matrix, if they do this, we'll do this. this is a pretty interesting game of chess here and he has options depending on what the west reaction is to what he does next. >> deadly, and dangerous game of chess with millions of people caught in the middle. general mark, appreciate you being with us tonight.thank you so much. we'll continue the conversation just ahead with fiona hill who served as national security expert on counsel with the former president. also, former president's legal trouble got a whole lot worse, we'll tell you what the national archives found in those boxes of
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breaking news this evening, president biden is convinced that vladimir putin has decided to invade ukraine. understanding vladimir putin, his objectives and strategy is something that has stumped many analysts for decades. my next guest spent a career trying to understand him and the russian state, she's fiona hill, former senior director for european and russian affairs on the national security counsel, also the author of the memoire "nothing for you here, finding opportunity in the 21st century" ms. hill, thanks so much for joining us. you heard president biden say today he is convinced vladimir putin made the decision to invade ukraine, obviously the president has access to intelligence, you do not, but do you agree?
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>> well, based on what he said in his speech, particularly in response to the last set of questions by reporters, he was pretty adamant that he had intelligence to that effect and he was pretty confident that putin had made his mind up to invade, obviously, he was a little bit more cautious on the exact timing, but i think given the fact he was so emphatic, that clearly underscores that he's got information that he firmly believes is pointing in that direction. >> senior secretary of state bli blinken warned of false flag operations used as a pretext for invasion of ukraine, now you see russian-backed separatists in eastern ukraine, a car bombing, in your opinion is this part of the excuse russia will use to go to war? >> well it's entirely possible. look, i am i self was in national intelligence council in 2006 to 2009 when russians went into georgia and saw very
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similar events in the run-up to russian invasion of georgia, false flag events, basically emanating out of the republic of south asatie with various shellings, lots of reports of all kinds of incidents in the run up to that, the mantra that we're hearing now on russian television to russian public about rising tensions and aggressive actions, them being taken by the georgens, now ukrainians by separatists, this is unfortunately following a familiar pattern over the years seen russia engage in. >> what do you think about the strategy to reveal so much intelligence about what is going on, including the russian disinformation, do you think it has had an effect on vladimir putin's tactics or actions up until this point? >> well, it probably has, in terms of making him shift his calculus so much because what putin wants is operational surprise and in some respects
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what we might cause plausible implausiblity, i mean we know these things are not true but plenty of people out there are willing to believe putin's events and the biden administration is trying to get ahead of that and something many people have been advocating for some time because the russians as you point out are the masters of disinformation, and sometimes the best way to fight disinformation is with information but also, knowing, of course, this is going to be a battleground over whose version of events gets traction. i think the administration is doing, you know, what it certainly can, basically trying to inform the rest of us, you, me, and everybody listening to this about what's happening so we're not taken by surprise. >> you wrote in a new york times op-ed several weeks ago, quote, mr. putin plays a longer strategic game and knows how to prevail in the tactical scrum, he has the united states right
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where he wants it. so has anything in the last month and nato response changed your mind on this? >> yes, one of the reasons i wrote this article back when i did, a couple of weeks ago now, was to alert us to the fact that putin was doing the kinds of things that we're talking about right now, and that we ought to be vigilant, ought to respond and it's not just i have been shouting these alarms, obviously the administration and many others have been doing exactly the same thing. putin has a lot of players that by now, are quite familiar. remember he's been with us for 22 years, as either president or prime minister of russia so this is to some degree a known quantity, it's not a surprise, he hasn't appeared in the last 22 days or 22 months, a lot of time many of us have had to observe his actions and the kinds of things he does and what putin does is bank on the elements of surprise, on being able to control the information space and control it and basically manipulate it to his effect and also, banks on us being divided and fighting among ourselves and the fact that the
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administration is being able to work so closely with allies across europe and elsewhere, the fact that there has been to some degree, a pretty unified response across the aisles in congress, that will have been something of a surprise for him, and it may have very well caused him to recalculate and shift some of the things he's doing. but the fact that he does play a long game means that we're going to have to be at it for some time as well, we're going to have to have the kind of strategic patience and the resilience that we have, unfortunately, during the cold war, during the height of confrontations in the past. we're in here for the long haul and going to have to buckle up unfortunately. >> you heard president biden say he believes president putin has kyiv in his sights, if russia were to launch this larger scale, almost full-scale invasion of ukraine, what do you think happens next? what's the ultimate goal? >> well, i think as president biden said, the ultimate goal is taking control of kyiv and by
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that, the political system, not just the city itself and infrastructure, what putin has in his sights is basically overturning the current ukrainian government and having it replaced with a government more to their liking either by themselves doing the toppling as united states did in intervention in iraq and other places, a lot of what about-ism we see here as well, what if the russians do this in the next several days and weeks, they will basically say all the time well the united states has done this, united states has done that and make it difficult for us to push back. because the whole point is that they want to have, in kyiv, in ukraine, a government that they can manipulate, a government of their choosing, a people close to them or at least beholden to them so they can veto any of the vital political and economic security decisions ukraine makes. >> fiona hill, such an important discussion, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you so much. up next, breaking news involving the former president,
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boxes taken from mar-a-lago after the former president left office and discussed it with a department of justice so there's that, and also a ruling against a former president with a judge saying the civil lawsuits filed against him for his alleged role in inciting the january 6th insurrection can move forward. cnn's paula reid joins us from washington, paula, what are you learning about this classified information found in these boxes that, again, the president took with him to mar-a-lago? >> exactly, john, the archive says it's still going through these 15 boxes of material they received from the residence at mar-a-lago, among the items that the former president took with him when he moved to florida are item that is are marked classified, national security information. as you noted, they have had discussions with the justice department about this discovery, but it's not clear if they had made a referral. now, the archives also revealing that it believes the former
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president trump continued to destroy documents even after being warned about his obligations to preserve them while in office. in this letter, the archives revealed back in 2018, after seeing media reports about trump's habit of ripping things up, dumping it in the trash, staffers retaping things, they reached out and said the deputy counsel sured them it would be addressed but based on what they received from the trump administration say it's clear he continued to destroy documents related to his time in the white house that he had an obligation to preserve. john, these are missing pieces of history that are supposed to be in the public record, according to this letter, the trump team is supposed to be looking for other records that may not be in the possession of the archives. >> paula, what have the national archives learned about other presidential records particularly from social media accounts? >> as we know, social media was such a big part of the trump administration and according to the archives, they said they've found and identified records both from former president and staffers on social media
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accounts, these are direct messages or deleted messages that were not properly preserved. now, they also say white house staff conducted official business using unofficial electronic messaging accounts that were not copied or properly forwarded to their official accounts. covering the trump white house, i distinctly remember some sources directing me away from these nonofficial channels to make it easier for them to preserve things and others directing me right to them so it's clear, there may not have been a total effort to preserve all of these messages they were obligated to keep under the presidential records act. >> hm. paula, as i mentioned, a federal judge ruled today that the january 6-related civil lawsuits can move forward against the former president. how significant is that ruling is. >> this is incredibly significant john, and another in a series of significant legal lawsuits for the former president this week. in this ruling, the judge said
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plaintiffs in three civil suits, which include members of congress, and police officers who were at the capitol on the day of the insurrection, that they may be able to seek information from the former president about his role in the attack. now, these lawsuits allege that the former president conspired with others like his former attorney, rudy giuliani, his son, donald trump jr. and extremist groups like the oathkeepers and proud boys to sew doubts about the 2020 election which culminated in the violence at the capitol. trump's lawyers tried to argue that he when he was speaking at the rally, acting in his official capacity and should have immunity but the judge rejected that and said he does not have protections under immunity or first amendment, and john, that is incredibly significant, because he may now have to sit for a deposition. >> paula reid, a lot there, thank you so much. perspective now from cnn political analyst maggie, washington correspondent for new
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york times, also cnn contributor john dean, former nixon white house counsel and john, white house records act was enacted because of water gate which you know a little about it happen taking national security documents to his private residence, what is your view? >> it's a good question, a lot of the circumstances, we don't know yet exactly what he was doing with them, how they got there. did he direct that they be taken? are they a lump of documents that he just put in a box and said let's look at these later? we don't have enough facts, but he has a lot of leeway in what he can classify and declassify himself. he could say on the way out the door, i declassified all these things so i could have them. that might hold up. certainly might hold up in a criminal case. in a civil case, it might not do so well, believe it or not.
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so this is gray. we don't really know quite what's happening here with the facts, but it is very troublesome and indeed, the act is a result of nixon threatening to destroy his tapes and papers. >> maggie, do you have any reporting on the why here? why was this stuff all taken? and also, you know, paula's nuanced reporting also on this letter that does indicate in terms of destruction of stuff, the president, former president's propensity to tear stuff up, he had been warned not to. >> right, john, we know the president has been, was more the former president was warned several times by various staffers, we had heard this throughout the administration after my colleague andy carni reported that trump was in the habit of ripping up official records or official pieces of paper that should have been preserved but we don't know what the motive is, what the rationale is. all we know now is
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documents they believe were classified ended up in these boxes. we know there was, and we reported this, cnn reported this as well, there was a chaotic exit from the white house where a bunch of boxes were taken and they left. the why is unclear, as john said, you know, the president, any president has a fair amount of discretion over, you know, classified documents and how they're characterized but we don't know what he did. we don't know if he tried to declassify any of these, we don't know how any of this was done and as we know this was not a white house, the trump white house that was big on process. so there's a lot of unanswered questions. >> right, and you also can't retroactively declassify them, right, if he put them in the box when they were classified, he can't now as a former president say oh, but i meant to classify them, i just forgot. john, the letter from national archives to house oversight committee also said some white house staff conducted official business using nonofficial electronic messaging. so how is that legally different
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than what hillary clinton did when she was secretary of state, using private email for official business? >> well you'd think after the campaign attacking hillary clinton, all that staff, all of trump's staff would have known they shouldn't use unofficial devices for official business, it's just not the way you're supposed to do because there's supposed to be a record of that administration. this is a law, john, with not really a lot of teeth. it's expected that people at that level of government will comply with the general legal standards they've set up. i think post-trump, in some stage, congress is going to put teeth on this because of what we've seen happen. >> so maggie, the most surprising bit of news today may have been the federal judge allowing the civil case against the former president for january 6th to go forward. she wrote in her opinion, the president's january 6th rally speech can reasonably be viewed
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as a call for collective kactio, end quote, president facing civil suits for accounting now, you have any sense of how concerned he might be or his advisers are for these cases surrounding january 6th? >> they're less concerned around the january 6th civil cases. certainly not thrilled, but that's a different bucket. anything in the former president's mind relates to his family business or relates to him directly, not related to january 6th is much more concerned about. however, it is interesting, john, that in this suit, you had a bunch of defendants who successfully argued to be removed from the suit, most notably, the former president's son, and rudy giuliani, removed, left trump saying this is such a unprecedented moment citing free speech doesn't work here. this is different than the approach you saw trump's own lawyers use yesterday with the suit in new york with the attorney general essentially
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arguing everything around trump is so specific and trump is in a special class, that he needs to be, you know, he can't be deposed like a regular citizen, because if he pleads the fifth there's going to be some inference that's made that would be different for somebody else because there would be a lot of negative press coverage. it's fascinating to watch and we saw this throughout the presidency, the former president claimed sort of, you know, the mantle of the presidency when it was effective for him and then claimed his rights as a private citizen when it was effective for him and you're seeing that play out in these suits. >> it really is fascinating -- >> now he's only -- thank you. >> go ahead. >> sorry, maggie, thank you. the former minnesota police officer convicted of killing daunte wright after saying she confused handgun for a taser sentenced to two years behind bars but wright's family calall it a slap in the face. the details, n next. en. this on. privacy isis important to you? (mail recipient 4) yeah. privacy is really important to m me.
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it was an emotional scene in court today as former minnesota police officer kim potter was sentenced to two years in prison, two years after being convicted of shooting and killing daunte wright at a traffic stop, here, with the story. >> i will continue to fight in your name, until driving while black is no longer a death sentence.
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>> reporter: tear and see raw emotion filled a minneapolis courtroom today as kim potter was sentenced to two years in prison, first degree and second degree man slaughter for fatally shooting 22-year-old daunte right when potter said she mistakenly pulled her gun instead of her taser. >> because of kim's recklessness, daunte's life was cut short by potter who claims she thought she had a taser, pointed a gun at my son's chest and pulled a trigger, not only killing daunte, but damaged my whole family's heart. >> both of wright's parents broke down during their victim statements. she broke my heart, shattered my life and my world will never, ever be the same. >> everything we do as a family ends in tears because all we have is memories left of our son. >> reporter: the mother of
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wright's two-year-old son also spoke before the sentencing. >> kim potter took my son's best friend away from him and things haven't been the same since. i'm now a single mother, not by choice, but by force. >> reporter: potter, tearful apologizing to wright's entire family, turned and spoke directly to wright's mother. >> katie, i understand a mother's love and i am sorry i broke your heart. my heart is broken for all of you. i am so sorry that i hurt you so badly. >> reporter: judge regina chu appeared to hold back tears as she gave the sentence of 24 months in prison and $1,000 fine. >> officer potter made a mistake that ended tragically, she never intended to hurt anyone. her conduct cries out for a sentence, a significantly below
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the guidelines. >> reporter: spelling out the actual time potter will spend behind bars. >> you shall serve 2/3 of that time or 16 months in prison and a third on supervised release. >> reporter: prosecutors initially ask potter serve more than seven years in prison. wright's family requested the maximum penalty. >> i walk out of this courthouse feeling like people are laughing at us because this lady got a slap on the wrist and we still, every night, sitting around crying, waiting on my son to come home. >> kim potter murdered my son. and he died april 11th. today, the justice system murdered him all over again. this isn't okay. this is the problem with our justice system today. white women's tears trumps
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justice. >> reporter: and john, daunte wright's family and members of the community said earlier today this was a slap in the face, daunte wright's sister spoke before kimberly potter was sentenced and references, and i'm paraphrasing here, a time when she, daunte, and their mother talked about their whiteness protecting them from police and despite all of this, nobody wins. attorney general keith ellison didn't speak publicly but says he accepts the judgment from judge shu, encourages the public to accept the judgment, but did follow up and say that the community does not have to accept that decision, the big question now is how does this community move forward? what will healing look like? at the end of the day, nobody wins. daunte wright will never return to his family. his family will grieve forever, and kim potter has to live with the guilt of killing daunte
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wright, and some believe that is a life sentence. john? >> thank you very much. the right-wing media erupted this week over a new filing by special counsel john durham and spiked a lot of misleading claims about hillary clinton, why has the story all but disappeared? that's next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ move your student loan debt to sofi—you could save with low rates and no fees. go to sofi.com to view your rate today. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i'm getting vaccinated with prevnar 20. so am i. because i'm at risk for pneumococcal pneumonia. i'm asking about prevn 20. because there's a ance pneumococcal pneumonia
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never let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory, the old saying goes. that's not exactly how the old saying goes. but it sure was on display this week. a story about the former president and russian phones and all sorts of characters explode into wild accusations about hillary clinton and even the death penalty. now, poof, the story has mysteriously disappeared from those right wing outlets. so, what happened?
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brian stelter, host of "reliable sources" joins me now. this is based off an actual legal filing, but to get from there to here, what happened? >> there's always a little germ of truth, and it starts this time last week with john durham investigating the russia probe. here's the cnn headline about it saying special counsel durham alleges clinton campaign lawyer used data to raise suspicions about trump. a little bit of a story, a germ of a story. but it was blown up by right wing media as if trump had been proven right, that he was spied on, it was the crime of the century. donald trump himself said in a statement, at a stronger time in our history, the death penalty would be applied to the criminals here. this is trump is victim, being proven right, even though that is not true at all. this went on for days and days in right wing media until it started to fizzle. >> it started to fizzle because
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john durham released a follow-up statement to clear things up, yes? >> that's right. the air started to fizzle out of a balloon that shouldn't have been blown up in the first place. durham distancing himself from the furor in right wing media. he acknowledged that the internet data at question here came from the obama era, not the trump era. there have been five and six days of hyped, completely coverage from right wing media trying to prove trump right. that is always the issue in these stories, john. there's an attempt by his surrogates and allies to try to say trump is right even when he's wrong. and it distracts from the real news that you covered earlier this hour about the real crimes and sins of the trump era, for example, classified documents. they just want to talk about hillary clinton instead. all the headlines have been about hillary clinton allegedly spying and it has fallen apart. fox news has moved on. they're basically not talking about hillary at all. she did say in a speech this will come close to actual
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♪ i think to myself ♪ ♪ what a wonderful world ♪ -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com this presidents' day weekend, cnn is premiering a new original series on the life and presidency of lyndon johnson, from passing legislation like the civil rights act and the voting rights act, to navigating war and conflicts in the u.s. and abroad. the new series explores it all. >> lbj was intensely aware that he came into the office under
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the cloak of tragedy. >> it drove him to try to do things no one else had ever achieved. >> he said to his aides, what the hell's the presidency for? if you're not going to do something bold, why be here? >> i think lyndon johnson would be seen today as one of our greatest presidents because of all he did. but he made one bad mistake. >> vietnam really pulled him apart. he couldn't make a win out of this no matter how hard he tried. >> lbj said, i wish they knew that i want peace as much as they do. >> it's important to reflect and look back and see what has been done because there's no better way to judge the future than by the past. >> lbj, triumph and tragedy, premieres sunday night at 9:00 on cnn. the news continues, so let's hand it over to laura coates and "cnn tonight." >>
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