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president biden says he is convinced that vladimir putin has made up his mind to invade ukraine and that it will happen within days. the president gave specifics about a possible attack including it will target the country's capital of kyiv, i'm john burman in for anderson, this is by the far the most definitive we heard from president biden about the plans and scope, especially about kyiv, a city of millions. asked twice, this is what president biden said about putin's decision. >> reporter: and do you have any indication about whether or not president putin made a decision to invade? do you feel he was confident to have made that decision already? >> as of this moment, i'm convinced he's made the decision. we have reason to believe that.
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>> reporter: you are convinced that president putin is planning to invade ukraine, is that what you just said a few moments ago? >> yes. >> reporter: is diplomacy off the table then? >> no. until he does, diplomacy is always a possibility. >> reporter: what reason do you have to believe he is considering that option at all? >> we have a significant intelligence capability. >> now, no one can state definitively that an invasion will occur, only vladimir putin can do that, what we do know is what administration officials have seen from the intelligence, one official tells cnn nearly half of russian forces surrounding ukraine are in attack position and that the russian military has continued to move forces toward the border. we also have more new satellite imagery tonight, these come to us from the space technology company maxar which says they show a substantial increase in russian helicopter forces deployed to the ukrainian border. that same defense official also spoke of a destabilization
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campaign by the russians ahead of any possible invasion. it's something president biden eluded to as well with accusations of a disinformation campaign as well as a false flag operation involving what the u.s. says was a staged attack on a russian-made jeep in one of the break-away eastern cities. and then there's the threat of cyber attacks, the u.s. and uk both publicly blamed for attacks on bnk -- bank websites in ukraine this week and today here in the united states, officials met with representatives from some of the nation's biggest banks to discuss the possibility of cyberattacks by the russians. as we've done every night this week, we want to talk to our reporters in the key locations as only cnn can, our chief white house correspondent kaitlan collins, chief international correspondent clarissa ward in the ukrainian capitol of kyiv and jill doherty in moscow now, cnn contributor and expert on russia at the wilson center in washington. kaitlan, first to you, obviously the remarks from president biden are hugely significant, most
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definitive characterization to date of russia's intentions, what makes the president so sure in what sort of diplomat, efforts remain on going? >> reporter: i think what makes them so sure, john is the intelligence, and the president citing the capability they have earlier there when he was speaking with reporters just briefly on this but what we're hearing from source as really what the president says today matches and lines up with what they have been seeing and reading in the intelligence they've been looking at and pouring over for the last several days but what's notable from the shift in the president, no one has said this publicly yet, even biden himself has said that he guessed that president putin would go into ukraine, said this at a press conference a few weeks ago but repeatedly said only putin knows what he's knowing to do and even top aides aren't sure if he made up his mind. but president biden saying today, his clearest indication yet he does believe the russian
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leader made up his mind to go into ukraine and i think it's also based on what you're seeing happening on the ground. defense secretary was saying yesterday he's been a soldier before and when you're having this kind of build-up you don't just do it for no reason so of course president biden did leave the door open a little bit to diplomacy today, they obviously have tried to go down that path several times with the kremlin. that is something rejected so far and he did say looking at that meeting on wednesday that's supposed to happen between secretary blinken and the russian foreign minister that that is still planned for wednesday but of course if russia does invade before then, president biden will consider the door to diplomacy closed. >> so clarissa how are ukrainian leaders responding to all this? >> reporter: well, you know, as can be expected, there is a slight difference of opinion here among the leadership about president biden's comments. they don't dispute that his position is based on solid intelligence, but an aide to
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president volodomyr zelensky has told cnn, quote, it's impossible to say with certainty what exactly is going on in the thoughts of the russian leadership. and he went on to say that essentially, the real focus should be on the most important part, in their opinion, of what president biden said was that we have heard them disagree with the u.s. on a number of occasions. obviously, that's, in part, to try to tamp down any sense of panic or any sense of looking weak to the ukrainian public. but on the other hand, john, you are seeing other ukrainian officials responding to what's been happening in the eastern part of the country, in these breakaway republics where they have been staging what ukrainian and u.s. officials are calling sort of false flags or staged provocations. they have been bussing people who have been allegedly coming under heavy fire to the border,
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to russia, trying essentially, it appears, to create some kind of an elaborate, manufactured refugee crisis. again, that's been speck hated many, many times, before, that this could give president putin some kind of pretext with 600,000 russian passport holders in that part of the country to launch some kind of an incursion. we have heard ukrainian leaders warning of the danger of that and also dismissing as theater and as provocations, these claims from pro-russian separatist leaders in the far eastern part of the country, that they have been coming under sustained attack, and that there is an imminent large-scale offensive planned. so i think you are hearing two different sides from the leaders. um, which makes essesense, givee context of the fact that ukraine is in an awfully awkward and difficult position here, john. >> so, jill dougherty in miss cow, what do you think we are going to hear from the kremlin and how is all this playing in
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russian media? >> you know, uh, the comments came out kind of late here in moscow. so, initially, there wasn't really that much. but there was a comment that fw we noted from the spokesperson for the foreign ministry and she said, you know, the -- the most monstrous thing about this was there was not one word about the civilian population of donbas. so what she is saying is really in line with what we have been seeing today, which is really part of this very heavy-information war taking place right now. and that was constant repetition of video coming in from the donbas region. cha clarissa just referred to it, mothers and children being loaded onto buses leaving for russia, afraid supposedly that they are going to be attacked by the ukrainians. and the ukrainian government saying they have no intention of
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attacking that region. and then, also, we had president putin today -- he met with president lukashenko of belarus. remember, belarus, of course, is where all of these major military exercises have been held. and president putin said essentially there is an easy way to solve this. and he said all they have to do -- all kyiv has to do come to the table, and talk with those leaders of the donbas region. but the ukraine so far has said they are not going to do that. and then, finally, john, just one other, perhaps, visual that we will see on saturday. these are the strategic military exercises that will have missiles and be probably quite impressive. they will be held to -- on saturday. president putin will be there. and this is not to say that they are going to use nuclear missiles at all. i think president biden referred to that. but it's a symbol that they are -- they can change the
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equation. they are, of course, the other superpower when it comes to nuclear missiles. >> kaitlan, do you have any reporting on what president biden plans to do for the weekend now? >> he will be here at the white house, monitoring this because, today, when he came out and gave that most direct statement, yet, the next question is, is that the step that putin takes? and the white house has said they hope that is not what he actually does, that they are -- they have been very clear they know they are very upfront with their predictions and estimates of bhaes going to do and secretary blinken said yesterday he hopes he is wrong, but they seem pretty clear that he is going to. and so, we are told president biden will be here at the white house, monitoring this, meeting with his national security team, potentially having more calls with world leaders which he has done basically on a daily basis, and he had several on the phone earlier today talking about these latest development oefrs the last 24 to 48 hours ohher so. and he had, initially, been planning to go to one of his delaware homes which is pretty routine for him on the weekends.
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and one other thing we should note that he is going to go b getting dispatches from are his top-national security aides are all in europe right now. if you look at the defense secretary, he is there. the national security adviser, jake sullivan, in brussels today. the vice president is in munich as well as secretary blinken so obviously he is going to be talking to them about what they are hearing on the ground from european leaders, as well. >> date hin collins, clarissa ward, jill dougherty, a tense several hours for all of you. thank you so much for being with us tonight. i am joined by re tired hue tenant general mark hertling, and sencht arm think general, thank you for being with us. were you surprised to hear president biden say point blank that he is convinced that vladimir putin has made up his mind to invade? >> yeah, i was surprised to hear him say it so subjectively, that he has obviously some evidence, john. and -- and listening to your conversation just now, itolit really
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struck me what we are seeing -- you remember i told you last week, there would be a lot of preparatory moves. the military calls that a synchronization matrix. you have to do this before you do that, then do this. i mean, it is literally following one thing after another that will head to d-day. as we know it, the day the attack starts, we are in d-minus 1 or d-minus 2 oh right now. we have -- we have seen indicators of that all week. i go back to when president biden refused to delay talking to mr. putin on tuesday, and wanted to do on i think it was sunday instead. that tells he me he had some information that things were going to start earlier. hissening to the president today, very subjectively talking about what might happen. that tells me that we are reading the russians' mail. i have told you this before. i think he's got exactly what the synchronization events are, and they seem to be occurring in
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sequences. first, know, the cyberattacks -- limited cyberattack in icrukrai. that is the russians seeing what would happen. then, the artillery attack on the school to see how the ukrainians would respond. then, the attack -- the false-flag operation and then later today, not mentioned, was the bombing of the pipeline i think it was. it all leads to something. the taking of the refugees out of the area. all these things are telling me that, yeah, something could certainly happen. the president said, hey, we are still -- the potential for diplomacy and to stop this -- there is a potential just like eisenhower depended on weather on d-day to delay the d-day landings. putin could certainly stop. there is no indicators that he is just yet, though. >> uh-huh. synchronization matrix. a new term but it really describes, i think, what you are seeing happen over the last two days. i want to ask you about something else president biden said, too, which is that his
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relative certitude that the russians are are going to attack kyiv -- the ukrainian capital -- a city of about 3 million people. that's like the population of chicago. so, how will the russians go about doing that? >> don't know, john. but what i will say is it could happen in a series of ways. it could be just a massive artillery barrage on the city and that could kill a lot of civilians, which would be horrific. and it would be a war crime. it could be a limited assault -- and i will give you another keyword tonight to start thinking about -- the russian special operations guys that come in just like our delta force. um, it could be a maneuver -- a small maneuver toward kyiv to continue to focus the attention on a faint in the north, while putin does more action in the donbas region. i just don't know. when -- when you are talking about an operation with this many troops around, you how yourself, as a commander, or president putin as the commander in chief, to have a variety of options and he is playing this very well.
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again, he may be using s synchronization matrix, if they do this, we will do this. this is -- this is a pretty interesting game of chess here, and he has options depending on what the west's reaction is to what he does next. >> deadly and dangerous game of chess, with millions of people caught in the middle. general mark hertling, appreciate you being with us tonight. thank you so much. >> thanks, jim. >> we are going to continue to this conversation with fiona hill who served as russia expert under the former president. we will hear her thoughts on the president's remarks today. also, the former president's legal troubles got a whole lot worse. we will tell you what the national archives found in those boxes of document s he when he left the white house, and the civil lawsuits he is facing over his role in the january-6th attack. i mean seriously, we named ourselves booking.com which is kind of lit if we are talking...
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understanding vladimir putin, his objectives, and strategy is something that has stumped many analysts for decades. my next guest spent a career trying to understand him and the russian state. she is fiona hill, the former senior director for european and russian affairs on the national security council. she is also the author of the memoir "there is nothing for you here, finding opportunity in the 21st century." miss hill, thanks so much for joining us. you heard president biden say today that he is convinced vladimir putin has made the decision to invade ukraine. obviously, the president has access to intelligence you do not. but do you agree? >> well, based on what he said in his speech, particularly in response to the last set of questions by reporters, he was pretty adamant that he had intelligence to that effect. and he was pretty confident that putin had made his mind up to invade. obviously, he was a little bit more cautious on the exact timing. but i think given the fact that
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he was so emphatic, that clearly underscores that he has got information that he firmly believes is pointing in that direction. >> so, you ever heard secretary of state blincken warn of false-flag operations russia could use as a pretext, you see report of car bombing and evacuation of civilians to russia. in your opinion, is this part of the excuse russia will use to go to war? >> well, it is entirely possible. look, i, myself, was in the national intelligence council back in 2006 to 2009 when the russians went into georgia and we saw very similar events in the run up to the russian invasion of georgia. false-flag events with various shellings, lots of reports of all kinds of incidents in the run-up to that. the mantra that we are hear noug in russia on russian television
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to the russian public about rising tensions and aggressive actions then being taken by the georgians, now being taken by the ukrainians against separatists. so this is unfortunately following a very familiar pattern that, over the years, we have seen the russians engage in. >> what do you think of the u.s.' strategy to declassify and reveal so much intelligence about what is going on, including the russian' disinformation? do you think it has had an effect on vladimir putin's tactics or actions up until this point? >> well, it probably has in terms of making him shift his cal calculus somewhat because what putin wants is operational surprise and some respects what we might call plausible implausibility. there are plenty of people out there who are willing to believe russia's version of events and what president biden and the administration are are trying to do is get ahead of that and in fact, it's something many people have been advocating for some time because the russians, as
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you point out, they are the masters of disinformation and sometimes the best way to fight disinformation is with information. but also, knowing, of course, this is going to be a battleground over whose version of the -- of the events gets -- gets traction. i think the administration is doing, you know, what it certainly can. it is supposed to be trying to inform the rest of us -- you, me, and everybody listening to this about what is happening so we are not taken by sprieds. >> you wrote in a "new york times" op said several weeks audio, quote, mr. putin plays a longer strategic game, and knows how to prevail in the tactical sacrum scrum. is anything in the last month about the united states' and nato response changed your mind on this? >> yes, i mean one of the reasons i wrote this article back when i did couple weeks ago now was to alert us to the fact that putin was doing the kinds of things that we are talking about right now and that we ought to be vigilant, we ought to respond.
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not just i have been chanting these alarms. obviously, the administration and many others have been doing exactly the same thing. putin has a lot of players that, by now, to be honest, are quite familiar. remember, he has been with us for 22 years as either president or prime minister of russia. it is not a surprise. he hasn't just a pared in the last 22 months. a lot of time, we have had time to observe his actions and kind of things that he does and what putin does is bank on the element of surprise. on being able to control the information space, control it, and basically manipulate it to his effect. and he also banks on us being divided, and fighting among ourselves. and the fact that the administration's been able to work so closely with allies across europe and elsewhere. the fact that there has been, to some degree, a pretty unified response across the aisles in congress. that will have been something of a surprise for him, and it may have very well caused him to recalculate and shift some of the things that he is doing.
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but the fact that he does play a long game means that we are going to have to be at it for some time as well. we are going to have to have the kind of strategic patience and resilience we had unfortunately during the cold war, during the height of our confrontations of the past. we are in for the long haul and requesting to have to buckle up unfortunately. >> you heard president biden say that he believes vladimir putin has kyiv in his sights. if russia were to launch this larger-scale -- almost full-scale invasion of ukraine -- what do you think happens next? what is the ultimate goal? >> well, i think as president biden has said, the ultimate goal is taking control of kyiv, and by that it is also the political system. it is not just the physical city itself and its infrastructure. what putin has in his sights is basically overturning the current ukrainian government and having it replaced with a government more of their liking other by themselves doing the toppling as they believe the united states has done in iraq and other places. a lot of what-aboutism that we will see here, as well if the
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russians do go ahead and do this in the next several days and weeks, they will basically say all the time the united states has done this, united states has done that. and make -- try to make it difficult for us to push back because the whole point is that they want to have, in kyiv, in ukraine, a government that they can manipulate. a government of their choosing, of people who are close to them or at least beholden to them so they can veto any of the vital political, economic, and security decisions that ukraine makes. >> fiona hill, such an important discussion. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you so much. >> up next, breaking news involving the former president. what the national archives is saying about classified documents found at mar-a-lago. also, why the former president could face legal action against him for the january-6th capitol insurrection.
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there is breaking news in the multiple investigations in cases against the former president. the national archives confirms it found classified documents in boxes taken from mar-a-lago, after the former president left office. and they have discussed it with department of justice. so there is that and there is also a ruling genes the former president with a judge saying civil lawsuits filed against him for his laenld role in inciting the january 6th insurrection can move forward. cnn's paw ha reid joins us from washington with more, now, paula, what are you learning about this classified information that was found in these boxes that, again, the president took with him to mar-a-lago? >> exactly. well john, the archives says it is still going through these 15 boxes of materials they received from the former president's residence at mar-a-lago. they say among the items that the former president took with him when he moved to florida are items that are marked classified national security information. as you noted, they ever had
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discussions with the justice department about this discovery but it is not clear if they have made a referral. now, the archives, also, revealing that it believes that former-president trump continued to destroy documents even after being warned about his obligations to preserve them while he was in office. in this letter, the archives reveals that, back in 2018, after seeing media reports about trump's habit of ripping things up, dumping in the trash, staffers retaping things, they reached out and said the deputy counsel assured them this would be addressed but, john, based on what they received from the trump administration, they say it is clear he continued to destroy documents related to his time in the white house he had an obligation to preserve. these are missing pieces of history that are supposed to be in the public record. the trump team is supposed to be looking for other records that may not be in the possession of the archives. >> paula, what has the national archives learned about other presidential records, particularly from social media
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accounts? >> as we know, social media was such a big part of the trump administration and according to the archives, they said they found and identified records from the former president and staffers on social media a accounts. these are direct or deleted messages that were not properly preserved. now, they also say that white house staff conducted official business using unofficial-electronic messaging accounts that were not copied or properly forwarded to their official accounts. john, in covering the trump' white house, i can tell you i distinctly remember some sources directing me away from these nonofficial channelis to make i easier to preserve things and others directing me right to them. so, it's clear there may not have been a total effort to preserve all of these messages they were obligated to keep under the presidential records act. >> hmm. paula, as i mentioned, a federal judge ruled today that the january 6th related civil lawsuits can move forward against the former president. how significant is that ruling? >> this is incredibly
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significant, john, and this is just another, in a series, of really significant legal losses for the former president this week. in this ruling, the judge said that plaintiffs in three civil suits -- these plaintiffs include members of congress and police officers who were at the capitol on the day of the insurrection -- that they may be able to seek information from the former president about his role in the attack. now, these lawsuits allege that the former president conspired with others, like his former attorney, rudy giuliani, his son donald trump jr., and extremist groups, like the oath keepers and the proud boys to sow doubts about the 2020 election, which um can culminated in the violence at the capitol. now, trump's lawyers have tried to argue that when he was speaking at the rally that preceded that violence, he was acting in his official capacity and that he should have immunity but the judge rejected that. john, that is incredibly significant because he may now have to sit for a deposition.
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>> paula reid, a lot there. thank you so much. perspective now from cn political an list, maggie haberman, a washington correspondent for "the new york times." also, cnn contributor john dean, who was the former-nixon white house counsel and, john, the presidential records act was enacted because of watergate, which you know more than a little about. the idea of a former president taking classified national security material to his private residence -- could he have legal exposure from this? should he, in your view? >> i -- it is a good question. a lot of the circumstances, we don't know, yet. exactly, what he was doing with them, how they got there. did he direct that they be taken? are they a lump of documents that he just put in a box and said let's look at these later? we don't have enough facts. uh, but he -- he has a lot of leeway in what he can classify and declassify himself. he could say, on the way out the door, i declassified all these
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things so i can have them. that would -- that might hold up. certainly, might hold up in a criminal case. in a civil case, it might not do so well, believe it or not. so, this is gray. we don't really know quite what is happening here with the facts but it -- it -- it is very troublesome. and indeed, the -- the act is a result of nixon threatening to destroy his tapes and papers. >> maggie, do you have any reporting on the why here? why was this stuff all taken? and also, paula's new reporting also on this letter which does indicate in terms of destruction of stuff, the president's propensity to tear stuff up -- the former president -- he had been warned not to. >> right. john, we have known that the president -- the former president was warned several times by various staffers. we had heard this throughout the administration after my colleague, annie carney, reported that trump was in this habit of ripping up official
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records, official pieces of paper that should have been preserved. so -- but we don't know what the motive is. we don't know what the rationale is. all we know right now is that documents they believe are are classified ended up in these boxes. we know this -- cnn has reported this as well, there was a chaotic exit from the white house where a bunch of boxes were taken and they left. the why is unclear, as -- as john said. you know, the president -- any president has a fair amount of discretion over, you know, classified documents and -- and how they are characterized. but we don't know what he did. we don't know if he tried to declassify any of this and as we know this was not a trump white house big on process. so there is a lot of unanswered questions. >> right. you also can't retro actively declassify them, right? if you put them in the box when they are classified, he can't -- now that he is the former president say i meant to
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classify them i just forgot. they also sald some white house staff conducted official business using nonofficial electronic messaging. so, how is that legally different than what hillary clinton did as secretary of state using private e-mail for official business? >> you think after the campaign attacking hillary clinton, all that staff -- all of trump's staff would known they shouldn't use unofficial devices for official business. it is just not the way you are supposed to do it because this is supposed to be a record of that administration. this is a law, john, with not really a lot of teeth. it is expected that people at that level of government will comply with the general-legal standards they have set up. i think, post-trump, at some stage, congress is gonna put teeth on this because of what we have seen happen. >> so, maggie, the most surprising bit of news today might have been this federal judge allowing the civil case against the former president for
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january 6th to go forward. she wrote in her opinion -- in the opinion, the president's january-6th rally speech can reasonably viewed as a call to collective action, end quote. may be deposed for accounting reasons right now. do you have any sense of how concerned he might be or his advisers are for these civil cases surrounding january 6th? >> they are less concerned around the january 6th civil cases. they are certainly not thrilled but that is a different bucket. anything that in the former president's mind relates to his family business or to him directly, not related to january 6th, he is much more concerned about. however, it is interesting, john, that in this suit, you know, you had a bunch of defendants who successfully argued to be removed from the suit. most notably, the former-president's son. rudy giuliani was removed. he left donald trump saying, essentially, this is often an unprecedented moment that -- that him citing free speech
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doesn't really work here. this is different than the approach you saw trump's lawyers use yesterday when the suit in new york with the attorney general where they are essentially arguing that everything around trump is so specific, and trump is in a special class that he needs to be -- he can't -- he can't be deposed like a regular citizen because if he pleads the fifth, there's going to be some -- some inference that is made that would be different for somebody else because there would be a lot of negative-press coverage. it is fascinating to watch and we saw this throughout the presidency. the former president claim, sort of, you know, the mantle of the presidency when it was effective for him and then claim rights as a private citizen when it was effective for him and you are seeing that play out in these suits. >> it really is fascinating. >> now, he is only -- thank you. >> go ahead. all right, maggie, thank you. the former-minnesota police officer convicted of killing daunte wright after saying she confused her handgun for a
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it was an emotional scene in court today as former-minnesota police officer kim potter was sentenced to two years in prison after being convicted of shooting and killing daunte wright in a traffic stop. cnn's adrienne broaddus has the story. >> tears and raw emotion filled a minneapolis courtroom today as former-minnesota police officer kim potter buzz sentenced to two years in prison. in december, potter was convicted of first-degree and second-degree manslaughter for fatally shooting 20-year-old daunte wright when potter said she mistakenly pulled her gun instead of her taser. >> because of kim's recklessness, daunte's life was cut short by kim potter, who claims she thought she had a taser.
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>> reporter: both of wright's parents broke down during their victim-impact statements. >> she took our baby boy with a single gunshot through his heart. she shattered mine. my life and my world will never, ever be the same. >> everything we do as a family ends in tears 'cause all we have is memories left of our son. >> reporter: the mother of wright's 2-year-old son, also, spoke before the sentencing. >> kim potter took my son's best friend away from him, and things haven't opinibeen the same sinc. i am now a single mother, not by choice but by force. >> potter tearfully apologizing to wright's entire family. turned and spoke directly to wright's mother. >> understand a mother's love and i am sorry i broke your heart. for all of you, i am so sorry
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that i hurt you so badly. >> reporter: judge regina chu appeared to hold back tears as she handed down her sentence of 24 months in prison and a $1,000 fine. >> officer potter made a mistake that ended tragically. she never intended to hurt anyone. her conduct cries out for a sentence significantly below the guidelines. >> reporter: spelling out the actual time potter will spend behind bars. >> you shall serve two-thirds of that time, or 16 months, in prison, and a third on supervised release. >> reporter: prosecutors, initially, asked potter serve more than seven years in prison. wright's family requested the maximum penalty. >> i walked out of this courthouse feeling like people are laughing at us because this lady got a slap on the wrist, and we still, every night, sitting around crying waiting
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for my son to come home. >> kim potter murdered my son. and he died april 11th. today, the justice system murdered him all over, again. this isn't okay. this is the problem with our justice system today. white women tears trumps -- trumps justice. >> reporter: john, daunte wright's family and members of of the community said earlier today this was a slap in the face. daunte wright's sister spoke before kim berly potter was sentenced and she referenced -- and i am para phrasing here, a time when she, daunte, and their mother talked about their whiteness protecting them from police. and despite all of this, nobody wins. attorney general keith ellison didn't speak publicly but he said he accepts the judgment from judge chu.
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he encourages the public to se accept the judgment but he did follow up and say that the community does not have to accept that decision. the big question now is how does this community move forward? what will healing look like? at the end of the day, nobody wins. daunte wright will never return to his family. his family had grieve forever. and kim potter has to live with the guilt of killing daunte wright, and some believe that is a life sentence. john? >> adrienne broaddus, thank you very much. the right-wing media erupted this week over a new filing from special counsel john durham and it spawned a whole lot of misleading claims about hillary clinton, so why has the story now all but disappeared? that's next. , show you how strong i am ♪ ♪ i put my armor on, ♪ ♪ i'm unstoppable today ♪
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. never let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory, the old saying goes. well, that's not exactly how the old saying goes, but it sure was on display this week. a story about the former president and russian phones and all sorts of characters exploded into wild accusations about hillary clinton and even the death penalty. but now, poof, the story has mysteriously all but disappeared from those right-wing outlets, so what happened? cnn chief media correspondent brian stelter joins me now. this is a complicated story based off of an actual legal filing. but to get from there to here, what happened? >> there's always a little germ of truth here and it starts this time last week with special counsel john durham, who has been investigating origins of the fbi's russia probe. he submitted a vague technical filing. here's the cnn headline about it, saying special counsel durham alleges clinton campaign lawyer used data to raise suspicions about trump. so a little bit of a story, a germ of a story. but it was suddenly blown up by
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right-wing media as if trump had been proven right that he was spied on, that it was the crime of the century. donald trump himself said in a statement at a stronger time in our history, the death penalty would be applied to the criminals here. this was trump as victim being proven right even though that was not true at all. this went on for days and days in right-wing media until, john, it started to fizzle. >> it started to fizzle because john durham released a follow-up statement to clear things up, yes? >> that's right. the air started to fizzle out of a balloon that shouldn't have been blown up in the first place. "the new york times" headline saying durham distancing himself from the furor in right wing media. he basically acknowledged the internet data in question came from the obama era, not the trump era. already there had been five and six days of hyped, completely crazy coverage from right wing media trying to prove trump right. that is always the issue in these stories, john. there's an attempt by his surrogates and allies to try to say trump is right even when
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he's wrong, and it distracts from the real news that you covered earlier this hour, about the real crimes and sins of the trump era, for example, the classified documents. they just want to talk about hillary clinton instead. so all the headlines for the past week have been about hillary clinton allegedly spying, and now it's all fallen apart. so what has fox done? they've moved on. they basically haven't talked about hillary at all. she did say in a speech yesterday that this would come close to actual malice. basically she was putting these right wing outlets on notice, saying you're coming close to libelling me. i don't think she's actually going to sue, john, but it's notable she's saying that because even in 2022, hillary clinton is still the right-wing's boogey woman. they treat her as this terrifying presence. they claim she's going to run for president in 2024. they just can't get enough of hillary. >> brian stelter, thank you very much. up next, a look at the new cnn original series on the life and presidency of lyndon baines johnson airing this presidents day weekend.
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this presidents' day weekend, cnn is premiering a new original series on the life and presidency of lyndon johnson from passing historic legislation like the civil rights act and the voting rights act to navigating war and conflicts both in the u.s. and abroad. the new series explores it all. ♪ >> lbj was intensely aware that he came into the office under the cloak of tragedy. >> it drove him to try to do things no one else had ever achieved. >> he said to his aides, what the hell's the presidency for if you're not going to do something bold, why be here? >> i think lyndon johnson would be seen today as one of our greatest presidents because of all that he did. but he made one bad mistake. >> vietnam really pulled him apart. he couldn't make a win out of this no matter how har