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joining us all around the world. live from ukraine, michael holmes and our breaking news this hour, russia's invasion of ukraine is underway. with attacks reported from the north, east, and the south. ukraine's interior ministry says missile strikes have hit the capital kyiv, air fields, and russian troops have landed in the ukrainian port city of odessa. now, according to russia, they got no tree zibtness from ukrainian border guards. and according to russia, have suppressed ukraine's air defenses. ukraine's armed forces says five russian aircraft and a helicopter have been shot down. russia denying that. video, meanwhile, from ukrainian border guard shows a column of military vehicles entering the country from belarus to the north. tense of thousands of russian troops have been conducting military drills there for several weeks. cnn's matthew chance was on the air just a few hours ago, from kyiv, when air-raid sirens
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sounded. >> there's been an air raid siren just suddenly -- oh, here it is -- [ sirens ] there are -- that is an air raid -- air-raid siren. several of them going off here in the center of the ukrainian capital. now, whether that is just them testing it -- i don't think so, though, given the situation we currently find ourselves in. >> and air-raid sirens here in ha lviv, ukraine, in the west of the country, they are going off in the background right now. and that is probably the seventh or eighth time in the habit hour and a half that has happened. they are coming from multiple parts of the city as well. local-television reporting government officials are telling residents here in lviv to stay indoors, gather their documents, and not panic. it is hard to see how that is
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possible, given the tension and what is going on around the country. meanwhile, ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy -- he went on facebook to address the nation. he says he is imposing martial law but he, too, urged the country not to panic. >> translator: today, each of you should stay calm. stay at home if you can. we are working. the army is working. the whole sector of defense and security is working. no panic. we are strong. we are ready for everything. we will win over everybody, because we are ukraine. >> all right. the russian president, vladimir putin, he is calling this a, quote, military operation to protect donbas. well, it's clearly much more than that. he made a surprise appearance on state television early-this morning. mr. putin, blaming the government in kyiv for any bloodshed but said russian forces are are not planning an occupation.
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>> translator: whoever tries to interfere with us, and even more so to create threats for our country, our people should know that russia's response will be immediate and will head you to such consequences that you have never experienced in your history. >> u.s. president joe biden -- he condemned what he called the unprovoked and unnecessary russian invasion. he plans a white house address in the days ahead where he is expected to announce full-scale sanctions on russia. mr. biden tweeting, russia alone is responsible for the death and destruction this attack will bring, and the united states and its allies and partners will respond in a united and decisive way. he goes on, the world will hold russia accountable. all right. we have got nick paton walsh standing by in the ukrainian port city of odessa. atika shoe better here with me. jill dougherty, in moscow, let's start with you.
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what is -- what do you think vladimir putin is up to? what is his calculus here? because it's certainly not what he has been saying was going to happen over recent weeks. z z . >> well, his objectives, he says, michael, are to demilitarize and de-nazify the country, ukraine. so demilitarize could be obviously, he has been taking out military installations, a airports, et cetera. de-nazify is kind of a different question. how do you do that? who does he define as nazis? you know, over the past weeks -- actually, for a very long time, the russian media have been talking about ukraine as a neo-nazi country. and today, in fact, and yesterday, there was -- there were constant reports about nazis -- both from world war ii and supposedly from today.
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so, how he is going to do that, i -- i really don't know. but that speech -- i think when you look at it -- it popped up around, um, 5:30 in the morning, moscow time. just before some of those missiles began hitting in ukraine. and as you look at it -- and i have within reading and re-reading it. he is making kind of a limited argument that he had to protect the people in those breakaway regions that he recognized officially just a couple of days before. but then, he broadened it. he attacked nato as being -- as supporting neo-nazis. and then, um, in an extraordinary moment, he'd spoke directly to the -- the ukrainian military saying, essentially, give up your weapons. go home. and nothing will happen to you. so, it was really quite amazing. and that last quote that you heard, where he wants anyone -- and that, presumably, could be nato, the united states, europe, et cetera -- not to get involved
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or they would see something that they have never seen before. so, it's really quite extraordinary. it had a real edge to it. it was angry, and i would say pretty emotional. >> yeah indeed. jill dougherty in moscow. great to have you there. want to go to katie bolo at the pentagon for us. one thing that is interesting wbt about this, katie, is this move in from the north which the belarusian leader said was ridiculous just a matter of days ago, to our fred pleitgen. well, here it is happening. what -- what are they saying at the pentagon? >> yeah. of course, what we are hearing from both our sources here in washington and -- and our sources in the region is, you know, look, u.s.' defense and intelligence officials have always seen a potential russian incursion from belarus as -- as pretty critical because it offers the russians this fairly direct path to kyiv, to the -- to the ukrainian capital. now, what we have heard from one senior u.s. senator -- senator marco rubio, who is the top
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republican on the senate intelligence committee -- based on what we are told is based on intelligence briefings he has received, he sees this incursion from belarus as a part of russian' planning to try to isolate kyiv from ukraine's own forces that are operating in the east of the country, sort of on the eastern flank budding up against these separatist-controlled regions. sort of attempt to -- to cut off kyiv from its own forces, which obviously, you know, would be a hugely significant. but at this point, you know, what officials are telling us is that, look, we are still largely in the fog of war here. the united states' defense department and intelligence community is still watching chosely, trying to get a sense for how this campaign is going to unfold. you know, the bottom line here is what we have been told from officials, sort of from the beginning, is that ukraine is massively outgunned, massively outmanned here. the expectation is not that they are going to be able to repel this -- this assault.
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the -- but the question now i think, for -- for u.s. officials closely tracking this is -- is how much hurt are they going to be able to extract from moscow? how difficult are they going to be able to make it? what kind of costs are they going to be able to impose as -- as this invasion continues to -- to unfold? we are obviously, also, hearing from the ukrainians, that they have seen -- they have seen ground incursions from the east and the south, as well. so, you can expect that the dod here in -- in washington and -- and forces overseas are going to be closely watching to try to get a sense for, you know, what -- who, what, how many, where, and -- and how this is all going to continue to -- to unfold. >> katie at the pentagon, appreciate that. want to go no you to the ukrainian port city of odessa. nick paton walsh is standing by there. nick, give us a sense what is happening there, and also your thoughts on the breadth of this operation? i mean, the russians. of course, vladimir putin was saying it is just to go into the
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donbas to support those separatists. um, it's way bigger than that. your thoughts? >> yeah i mean, it is way bigger than that. it speaks to the mindset of the kremlin here is feeling expansionist in way wes haven't seen in europe in decades. i mean, we were woken up at 5:00 in the morning by three or four blasts not in the city center. it is difficult to know where things detonate in an urban environment but it didn't seem to be here in the city center at all near the main port. there are various sort of military installations around this third-large esht st city i ukraine, essentially to ensure it continues to function as ukraine's main maritime access to the outside world. 6:00, two further explosions. we don't know where they were. we don't know what caused them but pretty fair to suggest this is linked to the broader russian moves across the country. the fact that it is so far south here -- this is, you know, a russian-speaking city,
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predominantly. where the russian general consulate shut down a couple of days ago, shows exactly how wide this is. it is sort of nightmare situation when western g intelligence officials first started talking about it, seemed preposterous russia would have the resources, the goal to attempt taking over a nation of 40 million. we are not necessarily seeing that scale of occupation but the initial moves of troops from the north, possibly from crimea in the south and from the east, as well, speak to something much wider than just the donbas being protected as putin suggested. i mean, the donbas is an open interpretation. how big you choose to -- to define that. importantly, when the separatist republics asked for recognition, vladimir putin clarified that he regarded that to be, both, the donetsk and luhansk regions, which is pretty much three times the size of the area they currently control. so that, in itself, was a massive increase of what we thought may be moscow in the
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separatists' ambition was but the idea you might be seeing troops come from the north and east and even indications from crimea, too, would speak to this -- what sounded like a mad idea of russian troops trying to move through the count are i, cut off the bulk of ukraine's military which is in the east focused around those separate int areas. and then possibly with that ukrainian military disabled to the east, have an easier time threatening the capital city of kyiv. but these -- when they come out of my mouth sound like completely absurd ideas that the russian military has a scope on trying to move into a capital city of nearly 3 million peechlt people. so we have to see whether this is a shock-and-awe type beginning of a phase. and then, we see a bid for requesting concessions from the ukrainian government. we don't know where we are here, but we do know we have recently seen a vladimir putin, who clearly is of a mindset of intense personal grievances, and
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just in the speech released last night, warning anybody of outside interference, they will bring consequences they haven't seen in their history. that, to me, is deeply chilling. we have always been in this debate about putin, you know, isn't really looking to do the craziest things he can. it is always small, little steps here. he doesn't have big, overarching, toerrifying scheme for europe. but we got impression today that might be something we are beginning to see unfold here. michael? >> yes, and frank -- frankly, terrifying comments coming from the russian president. um, nick paton walsh in odessa. a critical strategic city for ukraine. appreciate that. nick, we will check in with you later. let's go now to atika sure rt here in ha veefb. you and i are are both here, and we have object bogt been hearing these sirens going off. i think i have counted eight or nine separate times now, warning people to stain doors and, you
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know, stay calm, as well, according to state television here. what are you hearing about how people are are protecting and preparing? >> well a couple days ago, we know the ukrainian government sent out brochures to people, what to do in the event of an emergency, in the event of war. they told people to be ready, stock up on food, water, any cooking, gas that they -- in case they get cut off. also, make sure they have another source of heating. they asked people to stay at home but if needed to, to find out where the closest shelters are are, as well. now, we have been hearing those sirens as you point out and i have noticed just here on the street, many people going out to get that extra food that was recommended. saw some -- several families actually come by, kids with their backpacks stuffed. i think it goes to show that people, you know, for a long time, just didn't believe this was really gonna happen. they lived with the specter of war here for eight years now, and this was the -- their worst nightmare. it seems to have final hily com
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true, and so people are now reacting making sure they have those emergency plans, their bags are packed. but it is still very worrisome and they are not sure what is going to happen next, michael. >> yeah, terrifying for people to be in this city in the west of the country, and waking up to those sirens and the news that i ever country is being invaded. atika, thank you. atika in ha veefb, where i am. all right. we are going to take a quick break. when we come back, u.s. president joe biden of course swiftly condemning russia's invasion of ukraine. we will go live to washington for more on how the u.s. plans to respond. that's when we come back. in one stroke, le a pivoting metal head that defines every edge, and three comb lengths for added versrsatility. one tool that helps you choose, change, and master your style. king c. gillette
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. as we are gathered in the council seeking peace, putin delivered a message of war in total disdain for the responsibility of this -- this councille. this is a grave emergency. american ambassador to the u.n. there, moments after the russian president announced what he called a, quote, special-military operation into ukraine.
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ukrainian officials, of course, are calling it an invasion because that's exactly what it appears it is. explosions have been reported in cities, from near kyiv, the capital, to kharkiv, and many others in between. ukraine says military infrastructure is being targeted. cnn obtained exclusive video showing military vehicles entering ukraine from belarus in the north of this country in the early hours of the morning. and we also now have video of troops crossing into ukraine from crimea in the south. meanwhile, u.s. president joe biden condemning the attack as unprovoked, and unjustified. he is expected to announce further consequences, quote/unquote, for moscow in the hours ahead. let's talk about that. go live to washington and cnn's kevin liptack. the u.s. said that the punishing sanctions, the full weight of sanctions would happen if this happened -- this invasion. what are you expecting? >> well, we are expecting sort of the full package to be
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announced tomorrow. and we're told that u.s. officials are on the phone tonight with their europe an counterparts trying to kind of coordinate their response here. the president is also expected to talk to g7 leaders tomorrow morning, mid-morning, washington time, to try and get sort of on the same page on these sanctions. and then, he will come out, midday tomorrow, and -- and lay out what he is planning to do. and what we are told to expect is, again, these sort of swift and severe sanctions that the president had been promising, should vladimir putin go ahead with this assault in ukraine. and that includes things like export controls, which would restrict american' export of teng technology to russia and that would have sort of a withering effect on things like its military sector. we also expect safrpgz sanctions on russian banks. the president announced earlier on two financial institutions but this would go after much
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larger financial institutions, and potentially have a much bigger effect. we also expect additional sanctions on members of vladimir putin's inner circle. again, the president sanctioned three members of that inner circle earlier-this week. he is dpexpected to go after additional members tomorrow, and that will also include members of those people's family. that has been a way that these oligarchs, really, have avoided sanctions in the past. the u.s., now, trying to go after members of thaeir family o try and cut off that escape route, if you will. those are the sanctions aspects of what the president is expected to announce tomorrow. we also would expect potentially announcements of additional aid to ukraine. on -- on monday, this week, the president announced he was deploying additional u.s. troops to nato's eastern flank. he has been very clear that u.s. troops won't be going to ukraine, itself. but that is another area that we expect the president to potentially discuss tomorrow.
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now, earlier tonight, the president did speak with the ukrainian president, volodymyr zelenskyy. they got on the phone just before midnight. president biden, in a statement, said that zelenskyy reached out to him to speak. he said on that call, zelenskyy asked me to call on the leaders of the world to speak out clearly against president putin's flagrant aggression, and to stand with people of ukraine. now, on these sanks, we should note that the president had initially viewed these as a way to deter president putin. clearly, that deterrent effect for these sanctions didn't work out. and now, he's viewing these san sanctions as more of a punish. against president putin. the president saying in a statement earlier tonight that the world will hold russia accountable. michael. >> yeah, it is going to be interesting to see how the western alliance holds together when it comes to how punishing those sanctions are. kevin liptak in washington, appreciate it. thanks so much. all right. so what could be russia's next military moves in ukraine.
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for that, we are joined by malcolm davis. he is a senior analyst for the defense strategy and capability at the australian strategic policy institute. he is speaking with us from canberra. and thanks for doing so. so, when you look at the battlefield and where forces are coming in from, what -- what do you see is the most likely strategy, militarily, to be employed by russia as these operations continue? >> well, look, i think what you are seeing is the initial air and missile bombardment. lots of footage of cruise missiles hitting targets all over ukraine. uh, large artillery barrages coming off the russian-held areas in the -- in the east in the donbas and luhansk and d donetsk. i think the next step would be the russian forces expand their offensive into ukrainian-held territory and that is where you are likely to see intense fighting. and at the same time, you are going to see russian forces in
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belarus advanced south towards kyiv. and i think that is a key area of access of advance that we need to focus on. the third area, of course, is the south and potentially an amphibious operation against odessa, as well. >> yeah. some reports that is happening in terms of marines operating there. putin says he does not plan to occupy the country. he says that he wants to, quote, demilitarize ukraine. um, do you buy that? and -- and could he hold the country if he wanted to in -- in the bigger sense? >> i don't buy that. um, because if he doesn't occupy the country and he withdraws, the ukrainians will take back russia's lost gains. so, i don't buy into what putin is saying there. i think certainly, he intends to use overwhelming-brute force to physically destroy the ukrainian
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military through massive artillery and rocket barrages, and air-power assaults and so forth. but at the end of the day, you only win wars by seizing and holding ground. and so, therefore, i think it is hig highly unlikely that the russians would go through all of this, only to then re -- retreat back into the donbas. no, i think he will occupy key parts of ukraine, including potentia potentially going into kyiv. >> yeah. actually, that is a good point. let's -- let's talk more about that. you talked potential military operations going on, in a critical and strategic port for this country. what are the chances, then, that -- and there is also activity in odessa -- what are the chances that he will get his long-desired land bridge from russia to crimea all the way past crimea and to odessa? what are the chances he would do that and what would be the
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impact of that on ukraine's ability to -- to even operate economically? >> look. he's really committing massive amounts of russian' military force to what is a massive invasion of ukraine with the goal to dismember ukraine, to remotive the democratically-elected government, and to put in place a regime that is loyal to russia. and i have no doubt that he will try to -- to -- um -- alter territorial borders through brute force, as well. so he is not going to pull any punches. he is going to see an opportunity here to create that land bridge all the way through to odessa. it's possible that russian forces in that advance could then meet up with russian forces based based in moldova. and certainly, that would seal the entire coast, perhaps around lviv where you are at the moment, as like the remnant of
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ukraine. and the challenge there for putin is that the ukrainian forces would fight a war of inurgency and resistance against an army of occupation. >> my -- my -- my next question and quick, if you will, given the imbalance between the two militaries, a, what sort of fight do you expect from the ukrainians now? and do you expect that insurgency to eventuate going forward? >> i think the ukrainians are better prepared than 2014 when russia invaded and annexed, um, the crimea and also launched the -- um proxy wars in the donbas. but they lack the overwhe overwhelming firepower, and all the capabilities russia has so the ukrainians will fight as best they can and force the russians to pay a price. and then, they will switch to insurgency and resistance from the cities, and through the
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countryside, and try to raise the cost of any russian occupation of ukraine. >> fascinating analysis. mal malcolm davis, thanks so much. really appreciate it joining us from canberra. a state of emergency in ukraine. martial law and air-raid sirens, as russia attacks. we are covering all of this, live, from ukraine. do stay with us. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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russian assets in the european union and stop the access of russian bans to european financial markets. like with the first package of sanctions, we are closely aligned with our partners and allies -- the united states, the united kingdom, canada, but also, for example, japan and australia. these sanctions are designed to take a heavy toll on the kremlin's interests and their ability to finance war. and we know that millions of russians do not want war. president putin is trying to turn the chocklock back to the s of the russian empire. but in doing so, he is putting at risk the future of the russian people. i call on russia to immediately stop the violence, and to bigot d -- withdraw its troops from ukraine's territory.
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we will not let president putin tear down the security architecture that has given europe peace and stability over many decades. we will not allow president putin to replace the rule of law by the rule of force and ruthlessness. he should not underestimates of the resolve and strength of our democracies. and history has proven that societies and alliances, built on trust and freedom, are resilient and successful, and that's exactly what the autocrats fear. the european union stands with ukraine and its people. we will continue to support them. ukraine will prevail. thank you. >> these are among the darkest hour for europe since the end of
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world war ii. a major-nuclear power has attack a neighbor country, and is threatening reprisals of any other states that may come to rescue. this is not only the greatest violation of international law, it's a violation of the basic principles of human coexistence. it is costing many lives with unknown consequences ahead of us. european union will respond in the strongest possible terms. president of the european council has called for a meeting of the european council this evening and they will agree and provide political guidance to adopt the stronger package, the harshest package of sanctions we have ever implemented.
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a head representative for the security of the european union, i will be in touch with our partners around the world to ensure the international community will be fully grasping the gravity of the moment, and to call strongly and united on russia to cease, immediately, intolerable behavior and russia' leadership will place unprecedented undulation. this is not a question of blocs. this is dot knot a question of diplomatic power games. it is a matter of life and death. it's about the future of our global community. and we will stand united with our trans-atlantic partners and with all european nations in defending this position.
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we stand united in saying that no violence and destruction is means to attain political gains. we, the european union, remain the strongest group of nations in the world and this should not be underestimated. more immediately, we will be designing urgent assistance to ukraine in this dire situation. we will also be active in supporting operations, including of our own staff in zones affected by this russian attack. european union, together, with trans-atlantic and like-minded partners have made unprecedented efforts to achieve a diplomatic solution to the security crisis caused by russia. but russia has not reciprocated these efforts. and instead, has often for grave
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and premeditated escalation conducting to war. president putin needs to stop this senseless aggression and today our thoughts are with the people of ukraine, we will stand with them. >> all right. sorry. again, we are gist just hearing there from ursula von der leyen the eu commissioner, talking about the first package of sanctions. how united the eu is saying we want to hit putin's financial ability to wage war. we will not allow him to tear down the security infrastructure that has kept peace for many decades. we stand with ukrainians. ukraine will prevail, she said. and then josep borrell, a high
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representative of the eu for foreign affairs, spoke of the darkness of the hour, the grave escalation, and the senseless aggression and the harsh sanctions to come. he said russia's behavior was intolerable. we are going to take a quick break anyway and when we come back, we are going to discuss what the human cost could be ass a result of this invasion. we will speak with a human rights activist. that's after the break.
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ambassador to the u.n. put it. >> if russia continues down this path, it could -- according to our estimates -- create a new refugee crisis. one of the largest facing the world today, with as many as 5 million more people displaced by russia's war of choice and putting pressure on ukraine's neighbors. the tidal wave of suffering this war will cause are unthinkable. >> and joining me now from kyiv is alexandra, who is chair of the center for civil liberties. that is a human-rights group. um, let's start with the potential refugee crisis that could come out of this latest war. what -- what do you fear? >> we expect that russia will go further. it will be a refugee crisis.
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we can compare it with 2014 when the war started. we have up to 2 million. in this situation, it will be much more. >> where do they go? what do they do? >> i am in kyiv. and a lot of people stay in kyiv and will fight for our country and for our city, and for our dignity. but people with children, people without parents, people who are scared or try to leave -- to leave city. >> yeah. i -- i think many are expected to head here to lviv perhaps or onto poland, where it is going to be an enormous crisis, if that happens. you say that russia uses war crimes as a tool. what types of human rights' issues are you preparing for? and what can be done?
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>> russia you know, will try to find active people, active civilians. their target will be journalists, human rights defenders, civil activists, religious, and art leaders. volunteers because they have to [ inaudible ] who are able and resistant to the occupation. >> many more western sanctions, as we just heard from the european union, are are coming soon. the u.s., as well. so far, though, they did not deter vladimir putin. is there anything that will get him to pull back? or is it too late now? >> now, it all depends onto immediate reaction of the west because putin understand all this of course and the price has
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welcome back to our breaking news coverage. i'm rosemary church. an empty airspace over ukraine as the crisis sharply escalates on the ground. this radar showing no signs of any aircraft after aviation authorities restricted the country's airspace. russia also issued a notice banning civil aircraft from flight routes along ukraine's border. ukrainian officials say attacks from russian troops have come from russia, belarus, and crimea, and you're looking at video now of military vehicles entering ukraine from a border crossing with crimea. cnn correspondents have heard explosions in cities across ukraine, including near kyiv, kharkiv and odessa. ukraine's defense minister insists the situation is under control and that russian troops are suffering losses.
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russia, meanwhile, claims it met no resistance from ukrainian border guards, and that it has suppressed ukraine's air defenses. cnn is unable to independently verify these claims. and we just learned that poland, estonia, latvia and have triggered nato meaning they will consult with each other over security concerns. as the ukrainian president urged residents to be calm, a poignant scene unfolded at kharkiv's main square. cnn anchor don lemon spoke to cnn correspondent clarissa ward about what happened. >> clarissa, you are witnessing something that is taking place right in front of your eyes on the street. tell us about it. >> don, this really speaks to the sort of desperation of this moment. we just see a small group of people. and i'm hoping you can see them on our shot here. >> very clear. >> a small group of people have
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gathered in the main square, and they are kneeling and praying, because right now there is truly a sense of having no idea what is coming down the pipeline, what is in store for the people of ukraine in the coming hours, in the coming days. and it's freezing cold here. so to see these people kneeling on the cold stone in prayer is honestly it's very moving, don. and i think it speaks to the state of ordinary ukrainians here who have done absolutely nothing to deserve this, who have no quarrel with russia, who have no desire for war or conflict, who are not engaged with the geopolitics underpinning all of this, and yet who will ultimately be the ones to bear the brunt as what matthew called it, this
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multipronged major attack by one of the world's most sophisticated militaries on a sovereign independent nation. >> and we thank you for watching. i'm rosemary church. michael holmes will rejoin me with our breaking news live from ukraine in just a moment. you're watching cnn. thanks for coming. now when it comes to a financial plan this broker is your man. let's open your binders to page 188... uh carl, are therere different planning options in here? options? plans we can build on ouour ow, or with help from a financiaial consultant? like schwab does. uhhh... could we adjust our plan... ...yeah, like if we buy a new house? mmmm... and our son just started working. oh! do you offer a complimentary retirement plan for him? as in free? just like schwab. schwab! look forward to planning with schwab.
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this is cnn breaking news. >> hello and welcome to our viewers joining us all around the world. i'm michael holmes coming to you live from ukraine, and we begin this hour with the breaking news. russia's invasion of ukraine is under way. attacks reported from russian territory in the east, belarus in the north, an
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