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our breaking news coverage continues right now with don lemon tonight. >> thank you very of. see you tomorrow night. our breaking news russia waging war on ukraine. 24 hours ago the war broke out while we were on air. now, the second largest country in europe after russia itself is a war zone. kyiv under curfew. cnn teams there reporting hearing heavy explosions just a few minutes ago. president zelensky saying russian sabotage groups entered the city. this is chilling. >> according to our information, the enemy marked me as target number one. my family is target number two. they want to destroy ukraine politically. by destroying head of state. we have information that enemy sabotage groups entered kyiv. >> that is happening as white house is condemning russia over what they call credible reports. civilian staff a chernobyl.
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137 ukrainian soldiers killed. 316 wounded. in just the first day of war. ukraine tonight ordering a general military mobilization and banning men 18 to 60 from leaving the country. president biden calling out vladimir putin for starting a war. the largest in europe since world war ii. slapping new punishing sanctions on banks and oligarchs and their families. >> putin chose this war. now he and his country will bear the consequences. today i'm authorizing additional strong sanctions. and new limitations on what can be exported to russia. this is going to impose severe cost on the russian economy. immediately and over time. >> the president wouldn't say why he's not personally sanctioning putin so far. he has a message for the
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american people. >> this aggression cannot go unanswered. if it did, the consequences for america would be much worse. america stands up to bullies. we stand up for freedom. this is who we are. >> the worldwide resources of cnn on the story. matthew chance in kyiv. joe in moscow. caitlyn collins apt the white house. and the pentagon for us. good evening to all of you. matthew, what's happening there tonight? you have had some new explosions. >> yeah. within the past few minutes in fact. there's been a couple of explosions pretty powerful ones difficult to say how far from here they were. we can hear them very loudly from our position here in central kyiv. i have been contacted by the ukrainian interior ministry. and they're saying that russians
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started missile strikes on residential quarters of kyiv. that's what ukrainian deputy defense minister is telling me tonight in smhortly after the to missile strikes took place. i have been given video as well. one of them i spoke to the officials about this, saying one of the missiles was shot out of the sky. by ukrainian antimissile defense systems. that's what they say in the video of an explosion midair. with the debris falling to earth. the other one of the missiles apparently struck what is being described as a residential building in kyiv. we're trying to get verification on that. it all comes of course as the city braces itself for what will be the next stage of this russian operation. this russian invasion of the country. we have been witnessing coming into contact with russian special forces.
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that have been deployed on the out skirts of the city. in preparation of bringing in more sources we think. the concern in the ukrainian capitol is that russia intends to incircle the city and intends to decapitate the leadership of the country. and stall a pro-moscow regime here. president zelensky has posted on social media in a video as we just saw he sees himself as the number one target. believes that's how the enemy sees him and the family is a number two target. ominous development indeed. >> what do we know about reports of hostages at chernobyl? >> that's interesting. the whole idea that chernobyl the site of the world worst nuclear catastrophe in 1986 is under russian control. is in itself quite worrying and
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extraordinary. the fact the military operations taking place in that heavily contaminated region is worrying. there's the additional development as well. which it seems the technical staff the people who look after the reactor that exploded in 1986 and the take care of the concrete over the top of it. to make sure no more radiation leaks out. they have been kept in place as well. they're described by ukrainian officials as hostages. obviously the russians want to keep the technical staff there clearly to make sure that an eco-logical disaster didn't take place in the location. once again. they have taken over. more signs that russia is encroaching on the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the country. from every direction. >> sam, let's bring you in now. president zelensky says 137 ukrainian soldiers have been killed already. and tonight zelensky has is
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calling of ukrainian males. 18 to 60 to fight. banning them from leaving the country. are they prepared to do that? >> i think they are. a large number of people that we have spoken to and i have been here for a month now in ukraine, including here in kyiv. the second largest city. there is significant numbers of people with training with small arms. not just men but women too. young women, old women. clearly this national mobilization is a warning to people to pick up arms. earlier the president also issued a plea yesterday saying he wanted to see ordinary civilians report for duty. and be given weapons. and take them out and take the enemy on. this is rapidly been falling away from his control.
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particularly with the concentration of russian fire power on the capitol kyiv. here there's deep concern that a signature number of tanks amassing just inside the border. 20 miles away about 25 minutes drive. a bit longer for a tank. very large numbers of tank seen crossing from russia into ukraine. just north of where i'm standing. reports the town of sumy of heavy fighting. they have fallen to the russians. that's a border town about 100 kilometers from here. 60 miles. at the same time the authorities here are blown to brindges to slow down a movement of tanks against this city. that has the advantage perhaps of being in circle by a road. that maybe used to lay siege to it. it's a million and a half
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people. they need a lot of soldiers to take it over completely. >> let's talk about the residents there. ukraine second largest city. we saw residents seeking shelter in subway stations. we spoke to a family. listen to this. >> what will you do now? will you stay here tonight? >> yes. i think yes. yes. >> do you have food, do you have everything you need? >> yes. and water. that's all. >> you seem remarkably strong? given how scary the situation is. >> we try be brave. because we have children. and we don't want to show them that we're scared. >> this is a big city and now under siege. that's a lot of folks. >> it is. an awful lot of people.
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at least 1.5 million. 75% of them speak russian as a mother tongue at least. this is not though a place that is supportive at all of vladimir putin agenda. his stated agenda is try to help protect those eastern enclaves who independence he recognized. simultaneously announced he recognized the sovereignty over large chunk of territory that is undoubtedly ukrainian government land. now that becomes academic now. that we have major cities like kyiv the capitol. car cave the center of the intellectual and technical life of the country. now threatened with an imminent invasion. from this phase which is clearly the russian play book is to knock out communication, airfields and defenses. and to use rocket launching systems to try to soften the
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ground in advance of a tank. invasion. the second faze is the one that really is going to be most problematic for civilian population here. involving ground troops and there could well be an increase level of resistance from ukrainian armed forces. this is the moment they really may show their metal. >> this is all happening in the moment. this is war. i'll get back to matthew. take a look at this. video of the explosion that you just witnessed. we'll watch and discuss.
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>> that is the latest. i'm not sure if it was an onslaught or one. it's happening spore radically. how often are you witnessing this or hearing it in the area? >> that was the first incident tonight. obviously 24 hours ago there were lots of strikes taking place. what was interesting about the video and the video sent i think part sent to me by the ukrainian interior ministry. just a short time ago. they say it is a missile that was shot out of the sky by antimissile defense systems from ukraine. i wasn't aware. it might be my ignorance. i was not aware ukraine had antimissile defense systems capable of shooting missiles out of the sky. that sophisticated air defense there. i heard the russian voice. my russian sisn't great.
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i heard the voice as the item the object exploded into the little pieces and fell to earth. say the word -- airplane. airplane in russian. it's some kind of aerial vehicle or drone or it was a missile. it's unclear. >> let's bring in jill. i want to ask you you have been covering russia for decades. were you aware of antimissile defense system on behalf of ukraine? >> no. but i'm not a military expert. but it depends on what we're talking about. in terms of what kind of protection they would have. i actually do not know the answer to that. >> at the pentagon. >> antimissile defense systems, no i'm not aware they have antimissile defense systems. the u.s. and other countries in europe have provided antiair kaft missiles. whether one of those can take
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out a missile. i don't know. shooting a missit out of the sky is incredibly differently. only israel has iron dome and the u.s. >> general, we were going to bring you in later. let's bring you in now. this is all happening. and hasn't been confirmed, but what do you think this was? he said it was at least some form of military equipment knocking a missile out of the sky. what do you make of that? >> yeah, i'm not going to con jekt on this. i'm not a military analyst. or intelligence analyst. that looks like an aircraft. it looks like a large aircraft. the ukrainian forces do have stinger missiles. the javelins are the antitank missiles. stingers are aircraft. they have a range of 3,500 meters. that aircraft looked like it was flying under the cloud cover.
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so if it was an aircraft, it was a missile. it's tough no not down a missile with a stinger. this is conjecture. that looks like a large aircraft like a transport plane or possibly a bomber. it is flying very low. if it was an aircraft it could be carrying either bombs or airborne soldiers. if it was a missile, it was a very lucky shot. >> yeah. let's pull back on that. we don't know what it is. we're hearing what he's being told. and until we get confirmation we can speak on it. you are right. let's not conjecture or try to smiz what's happening. standby. i want to bring in now caitlyn collins at the white house. president of the united states made clear that putin is the aggressor in this unjustified and unprovoked war against ukraine. he hit russia with a additional sanctions. but so far hasn't directly sanctioned vladimir putin himself. you asked the president if that's still on the table. what did he say? >> he said it's still on the
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table. i think it's notable that given putin has taken the steps they said they would deploy all the sanctions. he took that step of invading ukraine and attacking ukraine. russia is doing now. this isn't something that ended up making the final cut. and so you look at the sanctions they talked about. the package they put together over the last several weeks with allies and talking about what it was going to look like if russia took the step. which as we know president biden predicted putin was going to do. this isn't something he included. he did say it's on the table. it's something they would consider. as well as the swift financial system cutting russia off from that is on table. we should note that doesn't seem like something realistic. it has to be done in coordination with europe to do that. the other steps he took today when it comes to imposing sanctions when it comes to restricting russian financial systems, tieing up equity and debt.
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when it comes to the technology exports. they are hoping could stunt military growth for russia. those are the steps they believe are going to be the most effect i for the time. basically have the maximum effect against russia while having minimizing any kind of effect they have on european allies. that's the balance they have been trying to strike here. and so, the question of how long those take to go into effect. the president was blunt about it today. it will take a while he believes before they can really weaken the kremlin. that's going to be the goal of this. and so when you look at what's happening on the ground in the ukraine. you see the concerns people have. putin is going after the capitol. and over throw president zelensky and his government. you have to look at the measures there. he doesn't think the sanctions could actually prevent putin from doing what he wanted to do.
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we believe that what he was set out to do. not just viewing this through a rational lens of what's the best for russia. through the very emotional and historical lens of what he deems as rebuilding the soviet empire. and i think that was one of the most chilling remarks you heard from president biden. during that press conference. he doesn't think putin will stop with ukraine. he has his sights set on other places as well. >> let's bring in jill again. secretary of state the u.s. believes moscow plans to inflict widespread human rights abuses. potentially worse on the ukrainian people. what is putin's end game? i hear people saying -- can we hear matthew. thank you. we hear people -- what struck me people are staying he's emotional. basing decisions on emotion instead of rational about it. >> that is one of the theories.
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i think there is a certain rational side to him. which is he wants to have this zone or this sphere of influence around russia. and that includes these countries like ukraine. georgia and others. that he wants really kind of sanitized of nato. so in that sense, he now has decided obviously that he will do whatever it takes in his mind to get ukraine under control. now the problem with the military with the russian military is they have gotten a lot better since the georgiaen war. and a more disciplined group. better weapons. when they start talking as they have about precision weapons and we can go in and just do this and kind of cut it in slice very carefully. i worry. if they want to in a precision
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way decapitate the ukrainian government, that's one thing. can they actually do that without killing civilians? and without destroying half of ukraine. i wonder. because in other places like syria they just randomly bombed. sometimes they would try to do precision. but they didn't have the equipment or the skill to do it. again they're better. but this is -- they may just take orders to to do whatever it takes. and if civilians die, that's too bad. >> quickly, i want to get to orn. guided from intelligence from our military officials. what's the latest from the pentagon? >> first allow me to say thank you to the general for correcting me on the mistake. between javelin and stingers. second we have heard the word decapitate a couple times. that's a word we heard here at the pentagon as well.
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senior defense officials saying it was vladimir putin goal to decapitate the ukrainian government and install a puppet government. that is subserven to putin and russia. getting closer to kyiv. the official wouldn't be specific on how close they have gotten. two worrying parts of this, first the russians have not imployed electronic warfare. not the extent to cut off control or disrupt communication. putin hasn't brought the vast majority of forces to bare on ukraine. he has a lot left in reserve. that's what they're looking for. when does he begin to engage all of that? that of course worrying and troubling signs for the hours and days ahead. >> all right. thank you. standby, everyone. thank you. we have much more on the breaking news tonight. russia waging a brutal war in ukraine. cnn teams are on the ground throughout the region.
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we're back now with the breaking news coverage. russia brutal war on ukraine begins its second day. with battle lines quickly changing, where could the fight be heading? joining me now to discuss. retired lieutenant general. thank you. appreciate you jumping in to help us with the segment. if you have anymore to add we'll take it. otherwise i'll ask you about a map. i want to put it up. russia launched more than 160 missiles. that's according to a senior u.s. official with major population centers urnds attack. all over the country. what's your assessment of the battlefield? >> first of all, the 160 missiles sounds like a lot. and it is. they can cause a lot of damage. explosive power in each one. but when you are talking about a nation the size ot texas. with major cities with a lot of airfields with a lot of intelligence facilities.
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with a lot of military training. you see how those 160 don't seem like a lot. certainly in desert storm and so called shock and awe campaign. before iraq freedom. there were a lot more sent into the city. remember the when president trump forced the tom hawks into syria. there were 69 missiles on one targts. i don't know. i don't know how so assess it. there's intelligence folks taking a look at it. the minister of defense of ukraine has said that most of their air force got off the ground before those missiles struck the airfield. that's a good sign. i don't know if that's true. but that's what they're saying from the ukraine perspective. the russians do have certainly air superiority. we have seen that all day long today. and wing aircraft. helicopter aircraft.
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it seems like to me that ukrainian army on their first day is doing a good job. what i would say is we can't judge what happened today and make it what will happen over the next week or so. i put out a tweet thread tonight. that talked about an army resources vs. the will. and we are certainly seeing that ukraine army's will could be potentially stronger than the resourc resources brought to bare by the russians. time will tell on all of that. >> general, tonight president zelenskyy ordering a general military mobilization calling up ordinary citizens. men from ages 18 to 60. who will fight for their country. what kind of impact can civilian soldiers like these have in a ground fight against russians? trained soldiers. >> that gets back to the will vs. resources. and i think that was a very smart move by president zelenskyy.
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what he is saying is the nation manpower is important to defend the soil of ukraine. and i think that's a critically important thing. right now. it's certainly probably came as a shock. most of the older men had probably served in the old soviet army. when they were younger. most of the younger men who are in the reserve forces had seen action over the last eight years in the don bas. they have a good what i will call national guard in ukraine. and in fact repeated service in the don bas over eight years. i think it's a smart move by the president. he's pulling out all stops and the russian army, to get to the second part of the statement, in my view is not that good. they certainly have the equipment. they certainly have the ability to come into a country like this. but their training and ability to put a combined arms operation together is not as good as a lot of armies we see in the world.
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>> general, standby as we mention matthew said the video earlier that we were trying to figure out what it is. we'll have both of you weigh in. matthew is back with us. let's run the video. we'll discuss it. here it is . so there's the video. we have new information on what it is. what do you have? >> i went back to the ukrainian interior ministry source that is gives me information. deputy minister. basically saying what this was is a ukrainian war plane. that was shot out of the sky by
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a russian air missile. in the suburb of kyiv. that took place about 40 minutes ago. it's an su 27. fighter intercepter jet. obviously on a patrol or around the sky of the ukrainian capitol. in search for to intercept russian sort of planes in the area. it blew up there and you can see it scattered. the debris all over that suburb of kyiv. a separate incident as well. which is where the confusion came from. there's also been a russian missile strike. on a suburb of kyiv. the officials saying it's a residential suburb. video of that as well. i'm not sure you have that. two separate incidents. a missile strike from russia and a ukrainian plane being shot out of the sky by a missile. >> general. >> that's tough.
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that's unfortunate for the 27. that's one of the better fighter airplanes. ukraine got most of their fighter aircraft off the ground before the missile strikes this morning. that's unfortunate they lost one here. that's what i actually anticipated that it was some type of aircraft. because of the spread of the pieces. i know you were on the scene of the mh 17 crash. you know how far those different pieces of that large aircraft went. when you hit an aircraft, a military aircraft with probably it was probably the same kind of missile. it's going to spread that aircraft all over the sky. just like we're seeing here. so that's really unfortunate for that ukrainian pilot. >> general, matthew, thank you very much. we're entering day two of the russian incursion into ukraine. our correspondents throughout the region bringing us the latest and we'll speak with a member of arm services. the armed services committee who
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president joe biden imposing the harshest sanctions yet on russia. saying vladimir putin chose to this war in ukraine. joining me now democratic congressman. of california. he is on the house armed
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services committee. we're so happy to have you, congressman. really appreciate it. you just got out of a house briefing on this war in ukraine with top biden administration officials. talk to us. what do you know? >> well, pretty much what most people know. we a little more detail on a few things. but the reality is that we're going to continue to provide defensive equipment. as well as humanitarian and financial aid to the ukrainians. we fully expect them to be able to use those. also it's clear that russia does have the domination and the general -- may very well be right that intense interest in love of country might be stronger than all of the tanks that russia might have. we had a long conversation about the sanctions. and if i were to summarize it, i would say what's that old saying, if you want to go fast, go alone. if you want to go far, go
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together. that's basically what the administration is put together. they have a assembled the broadest possible array of ally ands partners around the world to push back on russia. using sanctions. there's only two countries that appear to not be part of the group. that would be china and india. india may very welcome along. so it's a very powerful set of sanctions. and the possibility maybe the probability that additional sanctions will be added in the days ahead. >> as you know, sanctions work over time. and over a period of time. and depending on how harsh they are, it could take longer for them to work. while this is happening, the people of ukraine are in dire straits right now. dealing with destruction and death. and the like. what do you say to those people? sanctions take time.
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they're in the middle of it. >> they certainly are. it's tragic. horrific. deadly. many people have already died and many more will. putin made a decision. he made a decision that is contrary to the international law to the norms to all that is has been the pattern of international relations. since the end of world war ii. and unfortunately, the ukrainians are paying the price for that. indeed the sanctions are something that will impact some of the immediately. others of it over a long period of time. i would be interested in having a fuller understanding of why the streets of 50 cities in russia were filled with people this morning. protesting -- yesterday morning. protesting the war. those are the people that will come to understand in the days ahead, some of it sooner some later. this war is really coming down on them in their country. and the body bags will be going
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back. those are the that's where the sanctions will take effect. immediately this is a fight that the ukrainians will have to carry out by themselves. with assistance from many nato nations. this is another thing we learned during our meeting at the nato parliament assembly. the nato countries are also supplying arms and other material to ukraine. but the united states is not going to put troops on the ground or in the air. over ukraine. that has been clear. >> congressman, back from the nato assembly in europe. just yesterday. we appreciate you sharing your knowledge of this. thank you so much. be well. we'll talk soon. >> thank you, don. thousands of russians detained in protests of their country invasion of ukraine. more of that in just a moment. sl bull-rider i'm used to taking chances. but when it comes to my insurance i don't. i use liberty mutual, theyey customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. wooo, yeaa, woooooo
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our breaking news russia waging a deadly war in ukraine and paying a price for that at home. i want to bring in global affairs analysis and nine term congresswoman. of the wilson center. good evening to both of you. i'm going to start with you. this invasion is already incredibly deadly. more than 130 ukrainian soldiers killed in just the first day. there is fighting across the country. what are you most worried about as this war unfolds? >> well, on a basic human level you have to really feel sympathy and empathy for ukrainian military and the civilians. who arguably are going to be caught up in harms way assuming the russians decide to encircle kyiv. or go into civilian concentrated areas. cities consume armies. and the reality is that if that
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happens we're talking about a level of destruction and human tragedy that is pretty extensive. beyond that, i have to be concerned if putin in fact gets his way and i suspect he will in terms of dominating the country. what happens when you have pro-russian forces and russians bumping up against countries. poland and row mania. article 5 nato members. we're talking months if not years of a new reality between the united states and russia. >> jane, ukrainian president zelenskyy says russia has marked him as target number one. and u.s. secretary of state said this tonight, listen. >> we do know in part of the russian plan has been to put kyiv in danger. to assault the capitol.
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to go after other major cities. forces coming from the north from the east and south. and that's all part of the plan that we have laid out for world in recent weeks. >> you are convinced putin will over throw the government? i'm convinced he's going to try to do that. >> what does this look like if it happens? >> our intelligence has been magnificent. i applaud others for sharing in realtime the play book that russia has. but i think regime change is only part one of what putin may try to do. i think he's trying to threaten the whole liberal world order set up after world war ii by us in concert with europeans. the marshall plans and other things we helped revive. restore those we had vanquished. including germany and japan. and made them part of a system of friends. we didn't do that after the cold war ended. and we're paying a huge price.
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i wrote a book about this. for the fact that we declared ourselves the world super-power and only indespensable nation. an and ignored the rise of terrorism. china didn't want to be us and russia nurtured this sense of grievance for 30 years. the russians were not there. and the good news is that the west has unified against russia. so hopefully we will find a way to preserve and improve the system of world order that we established with good intentions and with great success after world war ii. >> president biden is leveling the sanctions. a bunch of new sanctions on russia. putin sanction proofed his country largely. what will the sanctions do. so far they have done nothing to stop him. they haven't been a deterrent at
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all. >> i doubt if the administration would admit this. if they were on call. their realistic enough to know sanctions were not designed to deter. putin has the advantage of geography. tight supply lines. local actors on the ground that will do his bidding. and he has will. he's prepared to sacrifice russian lives. in pursuit of the goal. joe biden is not. ukraine maybe very important and it is. but it is discretion. it's not a place where joe biden will send americans to die. so the real question is, will sanctions raise the cost? will they punish? i think your previous guest i think summed it up well. if you want to go fast, go alone. that's one thing. if you want to go far, go together. and i think the administration has a set of sanctions which
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will raise the cost. it will not deter putin from his goals in ukraine. they will raise the cost. and again i'll reinforce the point. we're in a new policy of containment. whether it's a new cold war or not. i don't know. we'll be containing putin for months and years to come. and we need a strategy that will not just pertain to this administration, but to the next one as well. >> jane, i've got just ten seconds, if you want to weigh in. i see you're trying to get in. >> i agree. but don't underestimate the will of the ukrainian people. i was on the my don in 2014 and met a young reporter for cnn named jim sciutto, and they toppled the old russian regime, and they will fight, and they have a modern country now, and they've held onto it for over seven years, and i don't think this is going to be easy. it's going to be ugly, but i don't think it's going to be
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easy, and i think putin 's goin to have a rougher time than he expects. >> jane, thank you very much, aaron as well, i appreciate it. men between 18 and 60 not allowed to leave ukraine. we are live on the border where the refugees have been streaming in all day and all night. ♪ i've been everywhere, man. ♪ ♪ c crossed the desert's bare, man. ♪ ♪ i i've breathed the mountain air, man. ♪ ♪ of travel i've had my share, man. ♪ ♪ i'v've been everywhere. ♪ ♪ i've been to: pittsburgh, parkersburg, ♪ ♪ gravelbourg, colorado, ♪ ♪ ellensburg, cedar city, dodge city, what a pity. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, man. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, man. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere. ♪
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an ominous warning today from the secretary of state tony blinken on russia's invasion of ukraine saying the u.s. government believes moscow has developed plans to inflect widespread human rights abuses on the ukrainian people. the u.n.'s refugee agency saying more than 100,000 ukrainians are on the move since the invasion
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began. many fleeing across the border to poland where cnn's scott lean is live for us tonight. you have been seeing and speaking with refugees coming in all day and all night, what are you seeing, and what are they saying? what are you hearing from them? >> reporter: don, i am struggling to think of a more miserable place to be. it's almost 5:00 in the morning here, it is freezing cold. it is dark, and everyone who makes it to this point could not be happier to get out of the lines that we're seeing. so this is the trek that people have to make up to where they're going to catch a bus or a taxi. i'll just sort of explain where we are. we're in a bit of a no man's land between the ukrainian and polish borders. on this side of the fence is where the cars are going through, if they come through the other direction, it's ukraine, and i'll just show you very quickly, this is ukraine on this side, and then through there you can actually see there's mostly women and children who are lining up to get through polish border
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control. this is not where the bottleneck is, though, we are hearing reports of people waiting, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 12:00 hours in some cases to get across the border and the holdup is actually well beyond this. on the ukrainian side where you need to get an exit stamp. of course we know that the ukrainian government is no longer allowing men between the ages of 18 and 60 to leave the country. they may well have to be serving in the military or called up from the reserves instead, and so instead, it's all been women and children. we've spoken to many of them. they described having to wait out in the cold. what i found really remarkable is how few complaints i've heard from people, even from the children, many of them very small. i have not heard a single child make a peep. i have not heard a single child cry. it is really remarkable. this is not something these people could have planned for. it is difficult enough being a parent under normal circumstances. it is much more difficult when you wake up this morning, early
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this morning, realize that your country is under attack, pack a bag, try to get to the border. get in a taxi and then walk on foot across. people having to wait 12 hours. i just spoke to one woman who said that it took her i think 10 or so hours to get across the border on foot, and she said that she's skipped -- she cut in the line. she said there would simply be no other way that she could have made it across the border in these freezing temperatures. she said the men were being separated out. she said that some men were trying to make it through anyways, and it was just a really miserable situation. i think we have some pictures, i don't know if you can put those up from the other side of the border where it's just a torrent of people trying to push their way to the front to get over here to poland, and then from there the government is trying to figure out what to do with them. they're boarding buses. they're going to reception centers, if they don't have somewhere to go. others are trying to get on
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trains to warsaw, trying to get on planes to go somewhere else, and there's a lot of foreigners that we've run into as well who had flights. obviously they weren't able to get on those, and so instead they'd have to come here and try to figure out where to go. >> we're looking at the pictures that you sent back to us earlier. it is a mess, no one else to blame but vladimir putin. we appreciate that. hundreds dead or wounded. we're 25 hours into russia's invasion of ukraine. our reporters have spread out across the region. stay with us. for one year of epic adventures... in a new dodge hellcat... and you don't evenen have to quit your day job. you just need to show you've got real drivive. are you our new chief donut maker?
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