upcoming hearings for president biden's supreme cour t nominee. this is gps, the global public scare. coming to you live from new york. >> today on the program, ukraine's capital kyiv is under siege. putin's military assault has rallied ukrainians and much of the world against the russian president. will the military challenges but sanctions cause putin to reconsider this war. i'll get the latest from cnn

reporters on the ground. former ukrainian president will join us to tell us why he is willing to risk his life to take up arms against russia. i'll have an exclusive interview with former secretary of defense, former cia director robert gates. first, here is my take. russia is utterly unprovoked immoral invasion of ukraine would seem to mark an end of the era. one that began with the fall of the berlin wall in about 1989. that end of the cold war spread an uncontested american power. it was not a period of tranquillity but a time in which american power seems triumphant.

that began to wane for many reasons. the financial move in the west. the return of an imperial russia determined to korea a sphere of influence which it could dominate its neighbors. putin's russia has been the great spoiler actively attempting to unravel the system. for many, the current crisis is prove of the collapse and the democratic age was a brief fantasy. it's said a return to barberism or the jungle is growing back.

i am more hopeful within the news of the last few days lies some powerful forces. what caused this crisis in the first place? the overwhelming desire of ukrainians to live in an open democratic society. let's not for get what enraged putin in the first place. the efforts of the kyiv government or pro russian government to finalize the association with the european union. he was treated by protest and the parliament voted him out of office. most of the countries part of

the soviet block have chosen one by one to become more open, more liberal. none on per. far from it. to large countries like poland to tiny ones like moldova, they've adapted open market economics. there's been backsliding in some countries but the movement towards western values since 1989 is the powerful designation. putin's reaction is is a bloody brutal effort. he has watched as the largest pro democracy protest moved

across the country. putin has one mover country in which he can maintain control only through fear and force. the liberal order has more support than you could imagine. the most came last week from the un security council. from kenya's ambassador. he explained amount all of african borders were deeply drawn often divided by ethnic groups but after can leaders decided they would live with imperfect borders. because to challenge them would bring endless wars and uncertainty. these countries chose to live with those borders instead.

taiwan. the fact that people want to live and the mere the society would be snufed out. i don't want to minimize those difficulties. almost 25, i noted the rise of ill liberal democracy and the nasty turn russia and other countries was taking. i've seen the erosion of liberal democratic values in my country of birth and in the country i'm a proud immigrant, united states. what that shows is that the liberal democracy need to be offended robustly. with the voices so loud these days, it seems the liberal values are willing to defend lem so liberally.

living on the promise, i say, let them go to ukraine. showing us all those values can be worth fighting for or dying for. the question for all of us is what will we do to help them? go to cnn.com/fareed for a link to my washington post column this week and let's get started. ♪ ukrainians huddled in a shelter singing their national anthem. the first words, "ukraine has not yet perished." those words still ring true is

ukraine's david seems to be successfully slowing the assault at least for now kyiv is still standing. president zelenskyy is still in kyiv. let me bring in some of cnn's great reporters on this.

destroying armored and personnel carriers and vehicles in a western suburb of the city. you can hear the man shooting the video on his phone he says, they came our land. i wish you all would burn in hell. i will give my life if needed that is an accurate assessment shared by so many here in ukraine. they are picking up arms. we saw a long line of men. they are being registered where

they can give their name and pick up a weapon. people have been instructed to get molotov cocktails. we have had good news that negative negotiation will be going on all morning by the river to negotiate with the russian del gerngs. they said they would not be willing to go to the bella russian territory because it is not neutral. i guess sense then, some guarantees have been made by the bell rug s leader.

it is hard to see if there is an extension of that. at the same time, russia saying it wanted diplomacy. now it is executing on that threat. it has ukraine under attack saying no, it wants to go on a different attack. the narrative from the kremlin yesterday was that they put a pause giving ukrainian officials an opportunity to talk

yesterday. that was turned down and russian forces went back into action. to be clear, russian forces didn't hold back. trying to take control of different towns and villages in ukraine. they seem to be continuing with that offensive it is unclear those talks and leadership as they should reling wish power of how valuable these talks will be. it is offering a t least pause he

seems to now be associating them with a russian band of nazis and zelenskyy is jewish how much of that is a factor? do you get a sense russians are escalating that campaign? >> this is what we were warned against. they asked us to take down our live position from the roof and said we couldn't do any life reports. we had our body armor on.

we were waiting for some sort of russian air assault. you can tell how difficult it is to mount a defense when russians are able to take out the targets. we were driving back here to kyiv a couple of days ago and we saw the ukrainian rocket launcher taken out hours before hand we saw one ukrainian soldier killed in that attack we had hoped from the announcement of these talks ahead, there was a quiet half hour and we thought

maybe there would be a pause. we thought in the next half hour now, we'd seen some steady booms in the distance. some of that might have been outgoing ukrainian defenses. now, some kind of pause is eminent. >> if something is happening, we'll come back to you, if we can. >> thank you. next on gps, the people of ukraine are fighting back. i'll talk to one of those people, the former presidentnt ukraine when we come back. (laughs) anything else you wanna know? is the hype too much? am i ready? i can't tell you everything. but if you want to make history, you gotta call your own shots. we going to the league!

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the people of ukraine are rising up. people are grabbing guns and fighting back. petro poroshenko is one of those fighting back. he's the former president of ukraine fighting in kyiv. president poroshenko. thank you for being with us. i remember interviewing you in the presidential palace and being with us on cnn and now you are in this position. how is the fight going there? >> tlaunhank you for supporting for the eight years and the growing american support.

the leadership of the american president biden has been tremendous. i thank chancellor schultz. i thank you for the difficult position yesterday. now it is clear, putin has launched the war not only against ukraine but against the west. this decision to put russian nuclear forces on high alert. this does not exist for eight years. with this madness putin posed is a threat to the world compared

to bin laden. you are helping yourself minimize potential losses to your countries in the next phase of putin madness. his days, i think, counted. he is simply crazy. and he is a liar. kazakhstan have already refused to join his war against the free democratic world. not only reported crazy. another crazy self--proclaimed leader of belarusian lukashenko. the missile killing ukrainian here and this is a disaster.

all of them together we stop when w e can. both military building and hospital, kinder garden and schools. >> president poroshenko, do you think this pause for discussion is a ploy? >> i think health factor without any precondition. the only precondition should be please withdraw your troop from the ukrainian territory. this is very simple.

hundreds of ukrainian. military civilians have already lost their life. thousands have also given their life in ukraine. the military disaster was avoid when it was hit at the facility of the station. >> let me ask you mr. president. you were instrumental in helping to build this army ukraine has. quite a formidable army whachlt do they need now? is it the javlins? the stingers? what is it ukraine wants? >> thank you. i'm really proud me and my team build up one of the strongest army in europe and today,

ukrainian soldiers and ukraine demonstrated how strong we are. our society do our best but all the nation is fighting. russian receive molotov cocktails or like we say in ukraine bandara. the first few days, russia launched about 50 aircraft helicopters. i'm just returned from the front line. keeping the defense. we need radio station. we need armored jacket.

we need helmet. the most we need are missiles for attack the russian helicopter. we need anti-tank javlin because every single operator should be equipped and stop russian tanks. russian tank driver will refuse to go to ukraine because that will be unavoidable. we need anti-aircraft missile. we also very much need the sanction. sanction is another instrument to make russia weaker. i want to thank joe biden and the american people and nato for their contribution in this

success. ukrainian army proved ukraine is a real asset to nato. imagine how strong the others will be with ukraine among history. today, western assistance is unprecedented sanctioning more almost every day we are waiting. sanctions should be the sanctions from hell. we are ready to block all russians p from stop issuing visa for russian and belarusian citizen. you should switch off all visa for russian and belarusian citizen.

we need to freeze assets of state companies and banks. >> thank you so much. it sounds absurd to say this but please stay safe. >> thank you for your prayer. thank you to all american citizens for being with us. thank you. next on gps, robert gates. s] [fire truck siren] [first responder] onstar, we see them.m. [onstar advisor] okay. motherer and child in vehicle. mother is unable to exit the vevehicle. injuries are unknown. [first responder] thank you, onstar. [driver] my son, is he okay? [first responder] your son's fine. [driver] thank you. there was something in the road... [first responder] it's okay. you're safe now.

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robert gates served as director of cia under president george h.w. bush, served under government w. bush and barack obama and by training a soviet and russian expert, he got his phd in. you've always been very clear eyed about putin. you told president george w. bush that when you looked into his eyes, you didn't see his soul, you saw a cold blooded killer. military interventions have been carefully planned like in georgia. does this strike you as something different? what do you think putin's

strategy is? >> you are right. this is different. this behavior is different from the past. he's made at least two terrible miscalculations in launching this war. one was the incredible resist tense of the ukrainian people. like with president poroshenko you've been talking about. and he didn't expect this kind of united response from the west. he's ended up with russia being completely isolated. i don't understand at all putting the new dear forces on alert. he's gone off the rails.

maybe it is two years of isolation outside of moscow. maybe because he's only talking to the hardest lying people of intelligence from his past. this behavior is worrisome. the fact that he launched this war is concerning. what would be your advice to president biden? >> i think the president and his team are handling this pretty well. maintaining the unity and solidarity of nato is important. i think the chinese are very

uncomfortable with what putin has done. remaining calm to make putin think we would not get involved directly. the putting on alert is worrisome and inexplicable. we are not going to engage military. sending those forces particularly is the right thing to do and sends the right signal to the europeans and the baltic states. people say this is a new era because the west is declining. what i'm struck by is the new era might be the decision by germany to cross the 2% barrier and spend on defense.

this may revitalize europeans to take the kind of forward leaning defense posture you advocated when you were secretary of defense. >> this is another one of putin's miscalculations. he's given nato a new sense of purpose and unity. increasing militar y forces he's driven ukrainians to be even more forward. >> secretary gates, stay with

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breeches? i thinks that going to be very difficult as long as vladamir putin is in power. we have to understand the post coldera is over. we in the united states and our allies face when we haven't since world war ii. one in europe, one in asia. our so-called holiday from history is over. we have to figure out how to put a global competition of power. we have to consider how we are going to deal with a hostile russia at least as long as vladamir putin is around. i think russia is a challenge for us in europe as long as putin is there. i think we can hope for a

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they do not seem to like the fact that they do that. >> i think they see benefit in having a partner working against the united states and creating as many problems for the united states as possible and everything and the noninterveerns of other countries including ukraine. this particular issue is a problem for them. your partnership if you will with russia working against u.s. interests wherever you can. i think the sek tur situation in europe and the invasion of ukraine has awakened the west

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historic and linguistic bonds. on the base we would still be waging bloody wars. instead, we agreed we would settle for the borders we inharted but we would still pursue continental, economic integration. rather than form nations that looked every backwards into history with a dangerous nostalgia, we chose to look forward with a greatness not many had ever known. >> powerful words. i asked him to share his concerns with me when we talked. you also talked very eloquently in the latter half of your speech about the dangers. the u.s. rests on the

sovereignty. are you worried these values these values are under threat or worried? >> very worried. the fact of the mart is, powerful countries including members of the security council over the next decades or so have chosen to take action directly in the face of this core tenant of the system we live in. countries including the

permanent five joined the nature. they were not a part of the united nation when they were formed. we doctored those rules and live by them. we make sure the world we live in is not where the powerful can trump fall over the weaker states at will. i like to think of it as a insurance you pay into in trust. today, ukraine needs them. tomorrow, it may be kenya that needs them. we need to come together to protect our system. our united nations. >> you can watch more of this terrific interview with commander from kenya on cnn.com/fareed. [school bus passing by] [kids laughing]

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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> i'm brian seltzer. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. we are here with the story behind the story. the sun is setting in kyiv. residents learn of expected talks between ukraine and russian delegations scheduled for monday. but who knows what