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this is cnn breaking news. hello and a warm welcome to our viewers joining us in the united states and right around the world. i'm isa soares. ukraine's nuclear regulators says russian forces are now occupying the nuclear power plant where fire broke out after the facility was attacked earlier. the plant's operator says that while russian forces control the administrative building and checkpoint, regular staff are still in place to work on power units and keep things really running smoothly. the state regulator says all six
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reactors remain intact and are operational. this was the scene earlier as ukrainians battle russian forces. the fire that the fighting force was extinguished a few hours ago. the nuclear power plant in southeastern ukraine is the largest in europe. officials stress radiation levels have not been elevated. ukraine's president offering his condemnation of russia for the attack. listen. >> translator: we contacted our partner. i talked to charles michael, schultz, i talked to duta, president biden. we have contacted prime mingster jung and we warned everyone no other country had ever fired on a nuclear power unit. this is the first time in our history, in the history of mankind that the terrorist state
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now resorted to nuclear terror. >> president zelenskyy will have much more on the nuclear plant in a moment. meantime, residents of mariupol are facing a deteriorating situation as russian forces besiege the city. civilians are trapped without food, electricity and water. fighting is also intensifying in other parts of the country such as kharkiv in northeastern ukraine. residential buildings are frequently hit. earlier michael holmes spoke with a nuclear expert. she shared the dangers of something going wrong at the nuclear power plant. >> in the worst case scenario i think the preview of that is the chernobyl nuclear power plant accident in 1986 where there was
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a release. it depends on the weather, the winds. after the chernobyl catastrophe, the radiation was carried out as far as ireland, england. with the fallout still until rather recently early 2000, a number of farms in the u.k. and ireland were affected where they couldn't sell their produce. to this day in southern germany wild boar hunted in the woods is tested for radiation, to this day. so we're not only looking at the geography, we're looking at a time scale of decades that these consequences could last. >> that is pretty chilling. cnn has correspondents positioned across ukraine, russia, england, belgium, hungary's border to bring you up to the minute developments on russia's assault. i want to go live to michael
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holmes and nic robertson. everyone no doubt breathe bing sigh of relief. chilling that russia seized nuclear power plants. >> reporter: yeah, exactly. as you were saying, this is europe's biggest nuclear power plant. six reactors, fortunately only one was operating at the time. the good news as you reported, five were put out without major incident. the what if factor quite likely sends chills down the spines of ukrainians and all of europe as you were just hearing in that sound you played. everyone remembers the 1986 chernobyl disaster. radiation levels are normal according to the iaa and the client itself. it is beyond disturbing. it is astounding that there is fighting around or directed at any nuclear plant.
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we don't know whether the attack was directed from the top, but of course there has been concerned about vladimir putin's state of mind. that does continue. an hour or so ago i spoke with the renountd ukrainian writer and i asked him about that. >> the top russian officials including putin started using prison slang. putin was always in love with prison slang. he was usually diplomatic and started using underground world's lexicon. they are gearing up themselves. trying to get more hate for ukrainian, spread more hate to ukraine among russian population. >> reporter: isa, in the last hour or two ukrainian officials said the attackers are indeed in
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control of the nuclear power plant. they are dead and wounded and holding it, of course, is a weapon of sorts. that one plant provides 1/5 of this country's electricity needs. russia now controls the switch. isa? >> that is very worrying, indeed. we are expected to hear from the director general of the iea. it will be interesting to hear what he has to say following that incident overnight. do stay with us, michael. let me go to nic robertson. as michael is pointing out, the very act of attacking a nuclear power plant should send shivers down the spine to any country, including the neighbor russia. how is putin's mental state being covered where you are? >>. >> reporter: yeah, his mental state is never in question on state media. his control and authority over what is happening in ukraine is portrayed. yesterday he was on state tv, president putin, letting the
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nation know that the military -- special military operation as they call it in russia is still on track, that it's going according to plan. that they're there to help the civilians and it's the ukrainians who are the problems, who are fulmenting the war here. it's something that's repeated time and time again on state media that russia isn't starting this war, it's merely ending the one that ukraine started with the backing of nato. that's the narrative that goes out on state media. when i talk to those of the older generation, those who go to state tv for their information of an older generation, they are saying the same thing. people will literally repeat those lines to you. there is another generation, a younger generation here, they are looking to other places, social media, friends. a lot of young russians have gone to live in europe.
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they're seeing what's happening just the same as we are through international media. they're talking to their young friends here. people are using social media and they're forming an entirely different view what have russia is doing. and its culpability as well. this is what some of them told me yesterday. >> almost all of us are understanding this thing, that there is a lot of lying around so we do not know what's happ happening. >> translator: i think this is a crime. our government invaded and now they are killing people. >> it's awful. what can you think about it? normal people understand but we can't do anything because we're afraid like everyone else. >> reporter: since i was on air with michael in the last hour,
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another independent media outlet in russia has been forced to shut down because of restrictions, an outlet in katrinberg east of moscow, forced to shut down. there were two more that were shut down this week. the russian government is trying to stifle the voice of independent media to be able to get out the message to russians of what's happening and already today as well the state doum, the lower house of parliament is passing through legislation, it has to go through a couple more steps from now. they're shutting down what they would call fake criticism of russian policies with a maximum 15 year jail term. the government here, kremlin, absolutely trying to put a lid on any criticism and any alternative view to theirs that russians get to see, isa. >> very worrying, indeed,
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silencing free speech and independent speech. michael holmes and nic robertson. still to come right here on the show, more than a million people have crossed international borders because of the fighting in ukraine. coming up, how european borders like hungary are opening their borders to the flood of refugees. the humanitarian crisis is growing and more desperate by the hour. what the u.n. is doing to ease the refugee's fight straight ahead.
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want to show you these live images coming to us from brussels in belgium where antony blinken is meeting with the u.n. secretary general as well as other nato allies for this current affairs meeting. in the last hour or so we heard secretary blinken giving very short remarks ahead of this meeting. secretary blinken talking about the preparations that we need to prepare for nato's future as well as talking about the unity of the alliance and the importance of protecting every inch of nato territory.
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the meeting expected to get underway. of course, this as we expect to hear from nato officials later. secretary blinken regarding what happened overnight as russian forces occupy russia, ukraine's largest power port including that assault by russian forces and that very large fire. there were questions thrown at secretary blinken as well as nato's jen saltenburg but those questions were dismissed. we should wait to see their remarks on that. we are waiting to hear from the iea director general raphael rossi following that fire at that nuclear power plant. for more in ukraine, it's creating a flood of refugees pouring across the borders. fighting enters the second week. more than a million people fled but on thursday russia and
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ukrainian negotiators need to provide humanitarian corridors for people trying to escape the fighting. they are giving temporary protection to all refugees fleeing ukraine. that gives them protective status and right to residency. >> translator: eligible persons will thus be able to benefit from protective status similar to that in any refugee in any european union for a period of one year. this reflects the full commitment to the european union that we owe to the ukrainian people in the face of this unjustifiable war. >> more than 133,000 ukrainians have fled to hungary alone. ukrainian refugees are dependent on the goodwill of volunteers waiting to help. once they arrive to safety they are grateful. cnn's ivan watson talks to
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refugees who arrive on the ukrainian/hungary border who are happy to be safe. >> reporter: forced to flee their homes and their country, ukrainians on the run. their children making the best of it, oblivious to the fact that a week old war just turned people in refugees. this is one of hungary's border crossings with ukraine. there is a steady stream with people arriving in vehicles and on foot. all of the ukrainian new arrivals are women and children. hungarian aide workers have a community center that is a place of refuge. some staying here, others pause for food and warmth before moving on. among those here, anna and her mother and her 16-month-old son. >> this is my son, mark. >> reporter: they crossed the border to hungary this morning after spending nearly a week on
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the road. >> we are hungry people. it's very hard work they are doing. >> reporter: the hungarian village has a population of 1060 people. the deputy mayor tells me the village has taken in more than 100 ukrainians including housing families in at least 20 village homes. as we speak, another family arrives from ukraine. >> there's a little baby. >> reporter: yesterday we took care of a 5-day-old baby that came across the border. a 5-day-old baby. victoria kulia said when the russians invaded she fled her home for what she thought was one night. a week later they arrived in a foreign country. >> i had just one ticket. very strong.
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the country is for strong people, strong nation and amazing power. of course my heart is broken. >> reporter: she tried to convince her friends in russia via social media about the deadly attack their military is carrying out on her homeland. what do your russian friends say to you? >> it's not true. no. it's not possible. >> reporter: they don't believe you? >> no. >> reporter: 10-year-old timor chimes in saying vladimir putin is like adolph hitler. he's attacking the world just like hitler did. there are almost no men here aside from the elderly because all of ukrainian men are fighting age have been ordered to stay behind to defend their country from the russian invasion. >> i'm very angry.
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>> reporter: i want to tell russians that it is time to do something. it's time to change something. my son doesn't deserve to be forced to run across ukraine and across borders, she adds. he doesn't deserve to grow up like this. ivan watson, cnn, on the ukraine/hungarian border. >> for more on all of this, let's turn to the director general for the u.n.'s international organization for migration. joins me live. thank you for joining me. we continue as you saw in that piece to see heartbreaking and desperate scenes as people flee what is clearly an escalating war. give us a sense of the magnitude in your eyes of what is unfolding here. >> this is the most dramatic humanitarian crisis in europe since world war ii and if there is no cease-fire right away, we
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will be plunged into a real humanitarian crisis. more than 1.1 million people leave the country. this is about the figures of 2015 for the syrian arrivals. this is well above the figures of the balkan wars in the '90s in the past century and not counting because we do not know exactly now how many internally placed people are inside ukraine because of the conflict. so all in all, this is a humanitarian catastrophe. >> of course, if there is no cease-fire, sir, houp -- what more can be done? what do you expect to see in the coming months if not years if this snins. >> the very urgent is to build on the humanitarian corridors
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that there has been a sign from the ukrainian/russian conversations, but these humanitarian corridors need to be two-way corridors, first to allow meme to leave the country, those who are willing to leave, but secondly, these humanitarian corridors need to guarantee safety for the transportation of the goods that are absolutely indispensable to assist the thousands of internally displaced ukrainians. particularly the hospitals. we are concerned the hospitals are being hit by the war. there is no oxygen. there is scarcity of blood, equipment and medicines. so humanitarian corridors is right now and we need to adjust urgently there. it's to guarantee the protection of those who leave the country and who are in the neighboring
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countries where generally accepted their interest. more than 1.1 million. >> let's talk about those leaving the country, sir. unfortunately our teams on the ground i've heard some very disturbing stories of i think it's fair to say of discrimination, xenophobia, against non-europeans. have a listen to this. >> yes. >> reporter: our friends are home waiting for us. all of the time in my mind, i feel like crying. >> ukraine is a beautiful country but they don't have to treat us like this. >> they don't have to treat us like this. why is this happening? >> unfortunately it is happening. there are different reasons but, of course, we have already approached the authorities both in ukraine and the neighboring countries to make sure everybody is fleeing the country, irrespective of their nationality, of their
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territorial being and the color of their skin. when they cross they are there to support them. and for those who want to return to their home countries, they can safely return. there is no excuse for any kind of discrimination according to the nationality. all are human beings. all need to be treated or equal foot. all are fleeing from war. >> but you acknowledge, sir, that this is happening? >> yes, absolutely. we have reports, credible reports, very fine reports and we are acting with the authorities because -- on both sides in spite of the war, there is a responsibility of the authorities to guarantee the safety and the security of all human beings. and the missiles do not discriminate according to the nationality, they hit equally
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everybody. >> let me ask you, mr. vitorino, about the e.u. and the decision to step up and grant really temporary residence to ukrainians. how urgent, how important is this right now? >> i agree very much with the european union. i must admit this was my proposal when i was 20 years ago commissioner for justice and affairs. i know very well what we are talking about because precisely for these kinds of situations the directive was dropped, is to provide immediate protection and assistance irrespective of the nationality for those who are fleeing conflicts and come to search rescue in the european member states. i praise very much the decision. now it's necessary to guarantee the necessary support from the international community to provide the assistance to those who can benefit from temporary
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protection. >> antonio vitorino, please stay in touch with us and let us know what your team on the ground is doing and what they're facing. thank you very much. >> thank you. russian forces appear to hold europe's largest nuclear power plant. the latest on the situation at the plant in ukraine next. heavy weapons cause carnage with a strike on an apartment building north of kyiv. we'll take you there next. the face of millions of germs zapped in seconds. the face of clean. the face of whoa! some are of intensity, others joy. all are of... various: ahhh... listerine. feel the whoa!
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fears of a potential nuclear plant incident in ukraine appear to have now been averted, at least for now. the country's nuclear operators say they have occupied the administration building and checkpoint but the facility's regular staff are working on the power units. a fire broke out earlier which ukraine blamed on russian attacks but emergency crews later managed to put out the blaze. nuclear watchdog radiation levels remain normal. the president is now slamming russia for the attack. >> translator: we contacted our partners. i talked to dharls michel, scholz, duta, biden. we have contacted grasty and
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prime minister johnson and we warned everyone no country other than russia has ever fired on a nuclear power unit. this is the first time in our history, in the history of mankind the terrorist state now resorted to nuclear terror. >> let's bring in cnn's scott mclean live from lviv. talk us through what happened and putin's strategy here in taking over the plant. >> reporter: i mean, putin's strategy honestly is anyone's guess at this point, isa, but let me give you the play by play. the updates we were getting overnight are absolutely terrifying. we know that as early as wednesday russian troops were surrounding this town where the nuclear power plant is located. they were trying to get in. people, local residents were trying to block them however they could. things deteriorated further yesterday and early this morning
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the ukrainian foreign minister was tweeting that russian troops were firing at the plant from all sides. by this point the international atomic energy agency said staff inside the plant were trying to mitigate any potential risk. obviously there were plenty. a fire broke out at some point after that and the mayor said that firefighters were unable to actually get to the site because of the fighting there and he was warning about the potential for a nuclear accident. about 6 hours ago the mayor confirmed firefighters had reached the site with 40 men and 10 trucks. it took them about an hour to put out the blaze. it turns out the fire itself was in an auctxiliary building separate from the actual reactor itself which had been used for training. the trouble now is the ukrainians have confirmed the russians are in charge and control of that site. they're controlling a checkpoint and administration building as well.
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thankfully the people who know how to operate the site, the staff are still running it right now. there are four reactors that are being cooled down we know at the moment. one is out of order because of the fire at that auxiliary building nearby and then one continues to still provide power. isa? >> incredibly brave. firefighters trying to control the fire as this assault was ongoing. scott mclean, appreciate it. thank you very much. stay safe. a new video shows the horrifying after math of a russian strike north of kyiv. it was hit leaving 33 people dead and 18 wounded on an administration building. we're warning you the footage you're about to see is graphic. [ bleep ].
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>> horrifying. local officials tell us there are no military facilities near that apartment complex. meanwhile, russian troops are gaining ground. our jim sciutto has that report. >> reporter: russian forces on the march closing in on cities in southern ukraine. the mayor of kherson says his city is now under russian control. ukrainian forces have left. senior u.s. defense official said there is still fighting there. russian officials have surrounded mariupol. they have lost water and power. >> we felt continuous shelling for 26 hours, 26 hours they are
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destroying our city. >> reporter: in the north u.s. says russian forces are making slower but still devastating -- >> the director general of the international atomic energy agency is speaking now. let's listen in. >> she and her team have been working the whole night given the circumstances in ukraine, which i would summarize as follows. you may be in possession of some of the information or all of the information i am going to share with you. what i can tell you is what we are telling you is confirmed information that is coming straight from the ukrainian regulator or straight from the nuclear power plant where we have contacts at the moment and permanently through the night. so as you have been informed,
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overnight projectile hit a building within the plant site, the site of the plant. this building i should repeat is not part of the reactors. none of the reactors is adjacent to the facility, to the reactors. these caused localized fire which was extinguished by the local fire precinct at the plant. so it's important to say that all the safety systems of the six reactors at the plant were not affected at all and that
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there has been no release of radioactive material. no release of radioactive material. importantly in this regard is the radiation monitoring systems, so the systems we have to measure the radiation are fully functional as well. however, as you can imagine, the operator and the regulator have been telling us that the situation is naturally -- continues to be extremely tense and challenging because of the circumstances. the plant reactor's units, of all the units we have there, there is only one operating at around 60% of its capacity.
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unit 1 was in an outage for maintenance and units 2 and 3 are in safety controlled shutdown. unit 4 is the one that is still operating at 60% and units 5 and 6 were already being held in reserve. they are operating normally in low power mode. i must indicate that two people have been injured. these people, according to the information we have, are not operators or technical people and they are part of the security personnel around the plant. so these are the facts. we continue to be in contact with the operators and following
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the situation, of course, very, very closely. let me now address how we are addressing this. what are the next steps that we are planning. what is possible in the circumstances. as you know because we show each other a couple of days ago, we have special session of the board of governors here, and at that session of the board i indicated, apart from the general exhortations and reminders of the importance of general principles of never attacking nuclear facility and other important elements, i
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reminded member states of a number of very clear points that must never be compromised if one is to ensure safety and security at any nuclear facility, be it a reactor or any other. the first one of this was the physical integrity, whether it is a reactor, as i said, a fuel pond, radioactive waste storage, everything. the second point that i mentioned to the board was that all safety and security systems at these places must be maintained in operation. the third point i indicated was that staff needed to be able to fulfill their activities normally. the fourth is that there should
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be at all times, at all times off site power, electricity so the facility is able to keep running normally. i also referred to the supply chain that must be always available in case there is a need, spare parts or things that are perhaps needed for repairs. i also referred as a sixth point to the radiation monitoring systems that are also required so that we have an idea of what's going on of the perspective of the possible presence of radioactivity and finally, communication. communication which is so important as you have seen throughout this night. without it, we would not be able to confirm the things that we are telling you. well, everybody agrees.
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everybody agrees without any exception, no country disagrees that these principles must be maintained. however, the first of this, the physical integrity of the plant has been compromised with what happened last night. so we, of course, are fortunate that there was no release of radiation and that the integrity of the reactors in themselves was not compromised. yes, the plant in a wider sense, but it is obvious that when we all agree on these principles, words must mean something, and we have to act in consequence. so for us the iaea, we have to
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react. we need to do something about this. i also referred to you, i believe, ukraine sent a request for immediate assistance to us. so bearing in mind what's happening and the risks that we may all incur if this continues without an enhancement and without recommitment to these principles, i have indicated to both the russian federation and the ukraine my availability and disposition to travel to chernobyl as soon as possible so that these seven crucial pillars are never again compromised. the idea behind this initiative
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of mine as director general of the iaea is to agree on a framework and a compromise that would commit to not compromise these principles that we all subscribe and agree to. we all know that given the very complicated circumstances on the ground, the logistics for such a trip, my presence in this place are not going to be easy and would not be easy, but at the same time i believe they wouldn't be -- they wouldn't be impossible. if we are to extend assistance, we have to be there. and the first to be there must be the head of the iaea. i want to make clear one point. this initiative of mine has
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nothing to do with the polite ral aspects of this crisis. this is not my mandate. i am not the security council of the united nations. i am not the secretary general of the united nations. i am not a self-appointed mediator. it has nothing to do with that. i want to be extremely clear about this. what we are talking about here is a framework under the egis of the iaea whereby ukraine and the forces that are present there in this -- the context of this military operation of the russian federation can agree to commitment to not -- to compromise these principles that i have mentioned. so as i said, the facts are this. the request for assistance has
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been made to us. we are not ignoring it. i am ready to go. i stop here and i take your questions. thank you very much. >> thanks. jonathan tyrone of bloomberg news. can you please just clarify who specifically you're in touch with on the russian side? you said you're in touch with ukraine and the regulator. can you please clarify, do we know right now whether the control room itself at that nuclear power plant is in possession of russian forces or does the utility continue to -- >> yes. >> -- have control of the room? >> yeah. of course. as i mentioned, i am in touch with russia and also of course ukraine. ukraine is my natural counterpart of this i should always emphasize because we are talking about ukraine and they
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are our counterparts. however, we know and this is no secret there's a military operation and there are russian forces there. of course, we do have a number of come talks when it comes to the russian federation at diplomatic level and at technical level as well. so this is the first part. the second part is regarding the operation of the -- you're talking about the control room and things like that. here i should emphasize that for the time being it is purely ukrainian staff running the operations there. what we have in this case as we speak this morning at quarter to 11, what we have is in chernobyl and at the plant, we have control, effective control of the site in the hands of russian
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military forces. i hope the distinction is clear. >> good morning. just to clarify, you said you're talking -- you're proposing a framework to basically guarantee the safety of the nuclear installations from both sides. what does -- how does a trip to chernobyl contribute to this? do you plan to negotiate in chernobyl? i'm not quite sure. >> we are going to be sharing some elements with both sides and we are going to try to agree on that in spite of the consultations we need to have. >> that's the plan, to negotiate there? >> yes. >> okay.
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>> just to follow up on that statement. who do you envision as your counterpart that normally foreign minister? so do you want the foreign ministers of russia and ukraine to go there? >> talking -- of course i'm talking with the political authorities of the countries and this is also something that we are -- we have to know that this is an unprecedented situation. normally in diplomatic practice one easy way out is to refer to precedent. it was done in this way last time this happened so this establishes some sort of practice or tradition. unfortunately, here we are in completely unchat terd waters and -- but to animate this initiative is to act and heed this call for assistance bearing
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in mind the realities on the ground. >> couple of questions. i'll keep it to a couple of questions. do you know who was responsible for the projectile that hit the site? was it ukrainian forces as the russians are claiming or was it the russians? and what have the russians said to you about the -- about sending a team there to -- for assistance and what have they said about your idea for a trip? yes or no? >> thank you very much. what we understand is that this projectile is a projectile that was coming from the russian forces. i will not have details about the kind of projectile this is.
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could be many different things. this is what we understand being the situation. in terms of saying yes or no, both sides are considering it. >> from reuters. over here. >> hi. >> two questions. what happens now? particularly at this time. you say the ukrainians are in control of the control room and operations but they're surrounded by the russian military. >> yes. >> what do you expect to happen sneer is this thing supposed to stay frozen as they are, a bit like chernobyl, ou do you
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imagine something else? also, i just want to follow up. if you don't have agreement for a meeting, why are you specifically suggesting a meeting at chernobyl. why is this so clear in your mind? >> there are a number of technical characteristics that make it advisable to do it there, to have a better idea and also to be more effective in diplomatic terms. it's very important to be there. of course, at the end of the day there might be many different formats, if you will. what we want to indicate here is the disposition of the iaea to move to do something about what is going on and not simply tweet
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or say things from here. we are ready to move. and in terms of the -- i think one thing is connected with the other. what we have is a situation which is very difficult to sustain and what has happened tonight or last night is proof of that. i have been saying for a few days now i'm extremely concerned. this is something which is very, very fragile, very unstable as a situation, and now we have seen that because of this impact of a projectile, we don't know how and how we tap-in, unless you have a forensic team there to determine this is going to be impossible, you had the kind of situation we had overnight,
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which could have been dramatic. i think we should not wait for something like this to happen before trying to address it in a more efficient way since we know what is at risk. >> i'm sorry, just a follow-up since you were saying -- you were describing the situation overnight and you say you are in contact with people at the plant. what is happening now? obviously we had the projectile hit. >> right now we have this normal abnormality, if i can put it like that. the other day in my statement i was saying normal operations, but in fact there is nothing normal about this. yes, they are running the plants and i paid homage the other day to their bravery, to their courage, to their resilience because they are doing this in very difficult circumstances. now we see this happen.
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how long can this continue? so i think it is our duty as an international organization with an important mandate to do safety and security, to do it also when the going gets rough. >> we're talking about chernobyl as one site. do we have any information about the other? >> you have been listening to raffi grossi from the iaea. russia bombarded the nuclear power plant sparking a fire which has been extinguished. he said the russian projectiles hit a building within the plant site. what was hit is not part of it.
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all of the six safety measures were not affected. there was no nuclear breach. he went on to say the ukrainian staff are running the operations but russians are running the site. he added the situation there is very difficult to sustain and unstable as well as challenging, those are all his words. so he's offering really to travel to ukraine to try and contain the situation, create a framework of compromise, he said, to try and figure this logistics on top of this breaking news. that does it for me on "cnn newsroom." i'm isa soares in the newsroom. i leave you with "new day" with brianna keilar and john berman.
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. good morning to viewers here in the united states and around the world. it is friday, march 4th and i'm brianna keeler with john berman. we're beginning with our breaking news. terror at an unprecedented level according to ukraine's president as russian forces are now occupying ukraine's largest power plant after shelling it and setting it on fire. overnight the fire at the facility was extinguished after a relentless russian attack. the fire starting in a training building just outside the main reactor and according to reports, there are dead and wounded among the ukrainia
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