yacht, the italian police seized the ship which belongs to alexi bordeshov, was wealthiest family in russia before the complete and utter crash but still the wealthiest family in russia, this yacht seized, equipped with heli pad and massive yacht as these assets are seized. th thank you, coverage continues with ac 360. good evening again from lviv, koukraine, tonight, senio intelligence officials tells cnn russia seems ready to bombard cities into submission, consider those words as we show you video of some of the destruction ukrainians have endured already. this official went on to say it is a very crude approach which he added leads me to judge they

have completely different standards when it comes to respect for human life. that should come as no surprise to anyone who has seen russia operate in places like aleppo and syria, according to the office and high commissioner for human rights it is recorded at least 331 recorded civilian mortalities so far with 700 wounded, throse mortalities caused by the tactics this senior intelligence official is warning about. then again, as we saw last night, the war continues. these forces risk poisoning a chunk of the continent by assaulting europe's largest nuclear power station in southern ukraine. tonight, video and sound from inside the plant as it came under fire and someone got on the p.a. system to plead for the shooting to stop. >> he's saying stop shooting immediately, you threaten the security of the whole world.

the work of the vital organs of the zaporizhzhia station may be disrupted and be impossible for us to restore it. you're endangering the security of the entire world. attention. stop shooting at the nuclear hazardous facility. stop shooting at a nuclear hazardous facility. stop shooting at a nuclear hazardous facility. attention. stop it. >> that is extraordinary. this was cnn's sam kiley who joins us shortly, doing the translation for us. there is word today russian forces are advancing on another nuclear facility, the second largest in ukraine. mean time, ukraine's most prominent survivor, president zelenskyy spoke by video to large crowds in european capitals, he called for their support, praise ukrainians who are defending the country, and took a moment to honor the

fallen and as he did, ordinary, unarmed ukrainian civilians continued demonstrating their defiance in the most direct and frankly most terrifying way imaginable, face-to-face at gunpoint with russian troops . just imagine the courage it take

to see do that, to stand in front of russian troops who have no compunction about slaughtering innocents. we got a lot to report tonight and coverage across the region, cnn's clarissa ward in kyiv, sam kiley at a location not far from the nuclear plant, across the border in poland where so many refugees arrive around the clock, cnn's sarah sidener is there and at the white house, kaitlan collins, first interview from oryn liebermann. >> reporter: the unthinkable, now another step in russia's invasion on ukraine, russian forces fired on the largest nuclear power plant in europe, seesing control of the zaporizhzhia facility early friday morning. ukraine said the russians fired on the plant from all sides, setting fire to a building near the reactor threatening cause of nuclear disaster. >> russian federation do continue shooting at the nuclear power plant. unit one, unit two, have damage.

>> reporter: a spokesperson for the plant says the fighting and fire have stopped. the international atomic energy agency says radiation levels are normal and workers being allowed in to continue operating the plant at gunpoint says the head of the power company. >> it could have been six chernobyls, the russian tanks, they knew what they were shooting. this is terror at a new level. >> reporter: crisis results in u.n. security council holding an emergency meeting. >> the world narrowly averted a nuclear catastrophe last night. mr. putin must stop this madness. >> reporter: russia has not let up its attacks across the country, maintaining barrages against major cities, high rise apartment buildings obliterated just 30 miles northwest of the capitol, kyiv, cell phone video shot in kharkiv interrupted by a strike on the city council

building. homes, destroyed in the city cheriniv. >> the terrible expectation is the destruction we've seen is likely to get worse before it gets better for as long as russia pursues these methods. >> reporter: the ukrainians had at least one victory, stalling the miles long convoy advancing on kyiv from the north with direct attacks and destroying a bridge on its route, according to pentagon. in the south, still control over the city of maripol despite intense russian strikes, residents there cut off from water and electricity, meanwhile, odesa preparing for an attack, a resident says they're dealing with violence at the hands of the russian occupiers. president biden says it's clear russian forces are intentionally targeting civilians as ukraine accuses russia of war crimes, which the kremlin denies.

international criminal court is investigating. nato accused russia of using cluster bombs, a devastating weapon that can kill indiscriminately though a senior defense official says they can't form of that type of weapon has been used. >> they are geared to execute civilian casualties on a massive scale so it's like having on each rocket that lands, 100 small hand grenades falling. >> reporter: but the u.s. and other nato countries remain steadfast in their refusing to implement a no-fly zone despite ukrainian pleas . >> the only way to implement something like a no-fly zone is to send nato planes into ukrainian air space and shoot down russian planes and that could lead to a full fledged war. >> one more note from oryn liebermann, cnn learned b-52 bombers flew over nato's eastern flank in a joint exercise with german forces, their flight took them directly adjacent to ukrainian air space where the

russian air force is still trying to establish air supremacy, let's check in with our correspondents starting with sam kiley. we just saw the video inside the power station, you did the translation, just a plea from the people inside the plant to the forces attacking the plant at the time to stop shooting. what more have you learned about that attack? >> reporter: so we know for certain that the facility came under some kind of missile attack or an artillery piece that hit the outskirts of the nuclear facility itself in a training area, setting that on fire. the ukrainian authorities, though, anderson, have said they also used the main tank, main gun of a battletank to fire into the facility and probably as a consequence of that those desperate pleas to seize fire the warnings they would cause a

global catastrophe if you fire a battle tank weapon into a nuclear facility. there's not just six reactors there, there's also the storage area for spent rods which of course remain highly radioactive, pretty much forever. so this is all a really, really dangerous moment, potential turning point globally, really, because, of course, this is the country that saw the chernobyl nuclear disaster in the mid 1980s which resulted in fall out right across europe, british ai isles and across russia and remains sealed now in both locations, we know nearly a week or just over a week in chernobyl the people managing that defunct nuclea nuclear reactor being held at gun point as well as at the biggest nuclear reactor in europe, not able to change out the crews and technicians and experts to manage this vast

nuclear power installation being held there by the russians to continue running it, to try to keep the wheels turning if you like, and that is, of course, causing profound stress for the nuclear community and concerns even here among civilians. we noticed serious uptick in the number of civilians leaving this part of russia just on the road as we were coming in, now about 70 miles north of that nuclear reactor. and people have been jamming the streets, jamming the roads out, trying to get away from this, particularly, i think, yesterday, when there were fears there could be some type of nuclear catastrophe episode. >> yes, clarissa, mentioned u.s. and nato officials noted a shift in russian strategy, seem poised to bombard cities into submission. we've certainly been seeing pictures of that, obviously, would mean many more civilian casualties. you are in kyiv, talk about what you have been seeing to that

strategy. >> reporter: so anderson, it's been a pretty grim day in terms of the amount of bombardment we have been hearing. it's been louder and closer than usual. we know a lot of it has been hitting in the northwest where basically, ukrainian forces are getting closer and closer to that massive russian convoy, trying to push them back but engaged in kind of back and forth skirmishes as that goes on. you showed some video at the beginning of your show from this town of badavyanka which is hard to see, horrifying images of that apartment building just completely gutted by some kind of a strike. well, ukrainian officials are now saying or emergency services are saying they believe up to 100 people could be trapped in the rubble or buried presumably in the rubble of that apartment building but the problem they have right now is that because the shelling is on going, and

because it is so dangerous there, they haven't been able to effectively send in rescue workers and emergency services to try to do a real assessment of whether anyone may be alive and also to try to pull out the dead to get a better sense or approximation of how many people were killed in that particular attack. i should also say we heard another big strike due west of the city. that appears to have targeted an office park, not a heavily populated area but high buildings which we can assume the russians are trying to strike to prevent ukrainian forces using them for defensive positions and one more thing that i would say that was interesting today, anderson, because it's kind of a first, was that a village to the southwest of kyiv came under bombardment, some five people were killed in that including three children, and the reason that's significant is because up until now, almost all of the fighting and strikes that we've seen around kyiv have been on

that kind of northern access, that 180 degrees to the north of the capitol. so the fact they're now hitting toward the south indicates that possibly they are preparing to try to soften the ground for a push south to try to encircle the entire city, anderson. yeah, i want to talk about those reuters drone images we were just showing and you were just talking about because you were saying maybe as many as 100 people may still be trapped, or in the rubble of that apartment complex. when you look at those images, that whole -- it looks like two separate apartment buildings. it was actually one complete apartment complex if i'm not wrong that has simply collapsed in the middle. it has been completely blown apart in the middle of it, not to mention both sides. both sides happen to just still be standing and it's very easy when you see a lot of these images that things start to all like alike and it just starts

l look like oh it's wreckage. just pause and look at these pictures. this is just stunning -- this is an apartment complex where people live. i mean this looks like grosni in chechnia. >> reporter: it does, and what's so striking, when you think, anderson, of president putin reiterating, oh this is, you know, a narrow-targeted military operation. this is not a war. civilians are not being targeted, and then you juxtapose that with this extraordinary image of absolute devastation of what is very clearly a residential civilian apartment block and a huge one so you can imagine how many people were living there, you start to see the completely disconnect between the rhetoric you're hearing coming from the kremlin and the reality of what we are seeing on the ground, and i think that also gives you a sense of how disconnected people in russia are from the reality

of what is happening on the ground because they no longer have access to independent media, because they no longer have access now to facebook, twitter, other social media sites, and because they are being brainwashed effectively by state media, parroting the propaganda we're hearing from the kremlin, making this sound like a narrow targeted military orientation with a very specific goal, as opposed to what it is increasingly clearly becoming on the ground, which is ratcheting up of targeting of civilian structures, a disregard for human life as the operation does not appear to be going according to u.s. officials, quite as quickly, as successfully, as president putin had hoped and the more they feel that pressure and the desperation and the longer that convoy is out there without resupplyish the more you are going to see, i fear, this

kind of indiscriminate targeting of civilians, anderson. >> yeah, i mean that u.s. affil official we quoted at the top, bo bombing into submission, that is what we're seeing at the apartment complex, sarah sidener at the border, what have you seen today, officials crossed now into other countries, moldova, poland, has the steady flow of people continued all throughout the day? >> reporter: all throughout the day, and into the wee hours of the morning. we are now just past 2:00 a.m. here on the poland side of the border, it is 3:00 a.m. just over the border in ukraine and we have seen all manner of things, many, many, again, as we've talked about so many times, women and children. we saw a family who said look, the war had not yet quote-unquote come to us. had hasn't arrived in our individual, but the mother said

there is no way she was going to put her children in harm. she had a 11-month-old, a 1-year-old, a 9-year-old and a 10-year-old all with her bundled up waiting here for hours for transport and she was headed to estonia where a company she used to work for agreed to pick them up. those are the stories here, sometimes people don't know where they're going, exactly where they'll stay the night but one thing they want to make sure of, especially the moms and children, is that they can get out of the way of the bombing and the devastation and the shooting that is happening in and around ukraine. anderson. >> you know, sarah, later in the program, going to bring up a conversation i had earlier today for this program with elena, a woman in a bomb shelter in kyiv with her three children, talking to throughout this past week, throughout the entire invasion and she spoke about the people who have left and certainly

understands their decision to leave. she wanted -- makes the point that a million people leaving is certainly, the largest movement of refugees in the european continent since world war ii but that there are some 43 million people who have chosen so far to remain here. she is one of them. she'll talk about her decision to remain with her three children in kyiv and not flee and why she's made that decision and it's important, i think that everybody here hear her perspective on that as well. kaitlan, from the white house, we heard zelenskyy today condemning nato's decision to rule out a no-fly zone over ukraine saying they grave the green light for further bombing, his quote, explain from the white house, because that is not on the table at this point. >> reporter: no it's been a gray area, there were measures they said all options are on the table, considering but not ready to take it, then days later

announced they're taking that step, this is one where there seems to be no budging. u.s. officials, nato officials are saying this is simply not something they believe feasible, anderson, because they say they're concerned if nato does make the agreement to send planes to create this no-fly zone over ukraine, that then, if that ends up where they have to shoot down a russian plane, it is going to get not just the united states, but nato into a full-fledged war, that is the concern you heard today from secretary blinken, the concern you heard from the nato secretary-general, saying they just don't think that's feasible, not putting boots on the ground or planes in the sky and zelenskyy saying if you cannot do this, at least take this step, at least send us planes and he said today if they don't establish the no-fly zone or don't help, they are basically green lighting the bombardments to continue because there's no way he thinks they're going to stop. one thing i will note, anderson, there are about 20 countries

mainly being led by the united states sending in defensive weapons to oourk, it's gotten a lot harder to do so, earlier they could fly them in before the invasion got under way, now finding alternative routes to get the equipment in like the stinger antiaircraft missiles which can take down russian aircraft, they are sending that in but made it clear they have no plans to establish a no-fly zone. >> thank you, kaitlan collins, cla clarissa ward, we'll check in, we'll be joined by mark hertley, and listen to what life is like now for a mom and three kids staying in a shelter still there and why she is deciding to stat. we'll talk to her, ahead. (johnny cash) ♪ i've traveled every road in this here land! ♪

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worse in terms of russia's strategy of bombing cities into submission, that is the strategy they said. dan rivers followed the report today from a small individual outside kharkiv where some fled to avoid the shelling, the village it seems was leveled. here's what he saw. a garden hewn apart from the impact, crater so deep, blown apart cars and could bury one inside it. people are left sifting through what's left without the support of any aid agencies wondering what will come next. as the shelling continues to echo across this shattered community. there is no obvious military target here, just a village which tried to offer shemter to those in need.

>> no obvious military target he said, itv's dan river reporting. current fell, and retired military general mark hertling. the bottoming of a town or village like that, not even a town, a village, complete destruction of an apartment complex where 100 people may be unaccounted for, 33 known dead, bombing to submission, does that work? is that to break the back of people and their will to fight. >> it is exactly that, anderson. it is not only the attempts at killing the civilian population, but it's also an attempt to just eliminate the ukrainian culture. you know, we haven't used the word raize in warfare since world war ii when the london

blitz occurred, but this is exactly what russia is doing. it's what they have done before, they did it in syria, they did it in grasni, did it in multiple cities, usually at the behest of others but this time it's an over reaching campaign to do this, using artillery and rockets to level the city. it's simply the take-away, to take away the ukrainian culture. now the one thing we can be thankful now is even though russian air has been flying it's been hindered by both ukrainian air defense and ukrainian air force put up a significant fight. the russians have had very little close air support for the movement of their troops, they're concerned about it, so they are using almost extensively artillery and missiles to attack these civilian targets. we're going to see more of this. unfortunately, we are going to see more of this.

i would, before turning it back to you, anderson, i would comment on what kaitlan collins said earlier, she said the stinger missiles are very effective against air targets. they are to a degree, those are low altitude weapon systems. they can take and engage fighter and see helicopters at low altitude, but eventually you'll see russian air forces probably bombing from higher altitudes and unfortunately, the ukrainian military does not have the kind of missile systems like a patriot or an arrow like the israelis have so it is going to be problematic and you're likely going to see even more of this kind of destruction. >> and general hertling, i should have looked this up and not just asked you this but is the stinger, is it one and done or is it, one use and that's it? and i believe the javelin is that way, correct? >> that's correct. both of them are very technologically advanced system.

they are going to hit what they aim at, and in fact, i read some intelligence import from a ukraine friend of mine a little while ago that said they estimate they have engaged russian armor with over 350 javelins and had close to 320 kills. that's about what's expected from a javelin, 90% strike rates and that is an aim and shoot type of weapon system that can either go into the side of a vehicle or come in on a top attack to hit tanks where the least amount of their armor is. the stinger is the same way. it's a very technologically advanced weapon. you aim it at the aircraft, if you can get a good tone, you're going to knock that aircraft out of the sky, but it only goes out to a certain distance and that's what's problematic. >> yeah, i mean general zuac, i asked that question because we hear, they're sending 200 stingers in which sounds like a lot but if it's only one use,

then i mean, you need, i would assume, thousands upon thousands. no? >> yes, what they do, nthough, even a few, you knock down a helicopter or push back low-flying aircraft to higher altitude, you create among the pilots an anxious, a nervousness when they're going in. so they, their value far out weighs their number and you don't know where they're going to be and where they're firing from. so the pilots are also thinking how to evade, is there trying to focus on their targeting. and then there are probably their old model soviet air defense type hand-held things as well, and those, again, can hit low flyers. but yes, not enough, but it's something and it's good that

they're in there along with the high value, if you will, javelins, but again, those rpgs, the remote propelled grenades we saw in afghanistan and yugoslavia and the soviets saw, those proliferate, those can knock out light vehicles, trucks, jeeps, light-armored personnel and convoys like the type that you're seeing coming down from the north which looks to be a gigantic fiasco. >> yeah, peter zuac, general hertling, we've spoken a number of times, we'll check in with a mom who has chosen not to leave ukraine as the violence intensifies, living in a shelter in kyiv with her three children over a week, we'll talk to her ahead. big boi house. big boi foyer! big boboi marble. big boi quartz. word? rerealtor.com to each their home.

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for over a week with her three kids, one just an infant as her husband fights in kyiv to defend ukraine. eleni, how are you doing, how is your family? >> hello, fine, thanks -- >> i see your little want is awake, i think that's the first time we've seen her actually awake. >> really? done so many interviews, she's the star now. here she is. today, my husband, he came to the shelter. well, basically, the reason why he came, because he was probably scared. there was very heavy shelling very close to kyiv and he decided that it's enough and we have to leave here. so he came like to pack us into

the car and he said you have to leave because it's your last chance, and it shouldn't be like this, this is wrong, our kids shouldn't live in this shelter in the basement. they need to grow, they need to have normal future. and we talked again, basically, about what we should do. and i said that i feel i need to be here and our children need to be here because this is, this is how, he agrees we had time together, old family life, i really hope it will repeat again. >> can you talk about that decision? i mean that's obviously an incredibly difficult decision to make and i know, i've received a lot of emails from people or messages from people saying that they hope you will leave with your children.

can you explain your thinking on this? >> you're right. this is a very difficult decision, of course. because obviously, i'm risking, but i feel if i turn my back towards the enemy and start running, i will never stop running. and that will become weak, i will lose the ground under my feet. so while we are here, we can be strong because this is the place where we are supposed to be right now because if we leave, yes, we will lose our native crown and another reason, basically, see, this is what russia wants us to do. she wants ukrainians to leave, she scares us, and then they will just come and take our homes, the same thing happened eight years ago in the east of ukraine. you see, they scared some of the local ukrainian population, people left, became refugees and then russians came from their

place and now it is like more russians controlled territory. i do not want my country to be russian controlled so this is my part of the battle. obviously, i won't hand over my kids, i don't want them to be hurt, but if our mission to stay here, and another reason to leave ukraine, it's not that easy and with three children, too. i mean people who are leaving ukraine, they are risking too. people who became refugees in europe and elsewhere, for them, life is not easy. and more over, they are having a feeling of guilt, i suppose, since they left. some of them. i understand it shouldn't be, but this is what i feel, what i hear from the people. and today, i was outside on the street and i saw really many people, many people from our neighborhood, almost all of our

neighbors stayed. now i do not want the west to have, you know, the worlds to have the wrong feeling that everybody left ukraine. even if one million people left ukraine, there are 43 million people who stayed and i'm not the only mother with children. we have other children in the shelter, we have other woman and children in this neighborhood, you know, and life of each of us is means something. and because that you are talking to me over there from cnn, you are showing my story, and i am one of few ukrainian woman who is eager to speak and can speak english and talk to you. i just want you guys to know that we are here. we, ukrainian people, we are civilians and we stay here on our native land and we have our ukrainian army that protects us and we need help, we need no-fly zone here, for putin not to kill us all, and we still need, we

are strong, yes, we try our best, but we need more help, please. >> i think, for people who i know are judging you saying you should lead, i think nobody can understand what it is like to be in the situation you are in unless it actually happens to them in their country, and i think people make choices that may seem strange to people outside but when you're in a situation, when it's your country and your home and your husband fighting and these are your streets, it's -- >> exactly -- >> it's impossible to know what decision anyone would make. >> if you allow, i would give one example. before, we were thinking sometimes, from time to time, what about immigrating somewhere to another country, but when they started, became obvious like no, this is the place where we belong. this is our nation and this time, it's our challenge and we

have to face it. and, you know, 80,000 ukrainians who emigrated before came back to protect ukraine so how can i leave in this situation? >> years from now -- your daughter is three months old. when she, years from now, what will you tell her about this time? this time she lived through, but won't remember? >> i will tell her that she was the cutest baby ever. and that she played a very important role because she is a relief for everyone in this shelter. you know, like everyone is so stressed and there is lots of fear, anxiety, you know, but people take her in their hands and they feel -- it's like a bit of light here. something very kind. and it helps us to fight the

devil, the darkness, and the best things happening right now too. >> well if she doesn't believe you, you can have her call me and i can confirm she is the cutest baby in the world. >> thank you. thank you. >> i mean my baby's pretty cute too, but your baby is beautiful. and as are you and your family and i appreciate you talking to us again. thank you. >> thank you very much, you give me hope. >> i think you give a lot of people hope who are watching right now. so thank you for that. your strength is awe-inspiring. take care. one family in ukraine, a country of some now 43 million people who are facing overwhelming, an

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welcome back to our coverage from lviv, ukraine, before we move on, rushed for time but i wanted to say it before but we were too rushed for time, but elena, that woman is so extraordinary to me and the courage it takes to make the decision that she made to stay here with her three children and probably not a decision a lot of people would make, maybe, but unless you're here, you may not be able to understand it, but it is just an extraordinary choice she has made to remain in a country she could leave but she is remaining here because she feels it is her place and this is where she should be with her family where her husband who is not a fighter is now fighting. it's just a privilege to talk to her. the pentagon tonight delivering a simple message to any americans thinking about joining the battle here in ukraine, they are saying don't. >> this is not the place for americans to be, in ukraine right now. it is a warzone.

if you really want to help the people of ukraine as a private citizen, find a way to donate resources to these organizations that are trying to alleviate that crisis. that's john kirby from the pentagon, a ukraine defense official tells military times more than 3,000 applications have come in from u.s. citizens wanting to fight. pentagon says it cannot verify that number. on the pollish border, our sarah sidener found other westerners trying to find their way in to volunteer for combat. >> reporter: where refugees are filling in, we spotted men in military gear, out in the cold while everyone else is trying to come in. we wonder who these men are who can only speak english and itching to get to the border with ukraine, they'll talk to

us, but asking for a help with a ride to the border 25 minutes away. >> reporter: can you tell me, what you are doing here in poland very close to the border of ukraine. >> just trying to help, protect them. simple as that. >> reporter: what is your biggest concern? your base concern? what is your biggest concern, and where are you going? >> we don't really know right now. >> reporter: there are six men total. they say they are strangers who met here in poland. mike is from clearwater, florida. aj is from south dakota. matt is from england. what does this remind you of? >> when fascism rose in spain. if we would have crushed fascism in 1936 we could have avoided it in 1939. if we don't stop it now, it's going our kids' purpose to fight.

>> reporter: they all came for one purpose, to fight for ukraine. matt makes clear he has no military experience, but they say they all left once they saw the brutal attack on ukrainian citizens jumping into action a day before president zelenskyy called for more foreign fighters to join him in the fight against russia. >> translator: you're going in without a plan. why? >> those people also have family and friends. and somebody's got to stand up for them. and, you know, it's not just the u.s. it's not just britain. it's the whole world's come together. >> reporter: it's 3:00 a.m. with no plan, no one to pick them up on the ukrainian side of the border, and little equipment. some don't even have a heavy jacket in below freezing temperatures. they jump in a taxi, ed head for

the border and head into action. this man received a call from a friend asking for help in ukraine. >> my friend in the jeep called me and said we really need you. and can you join. i said, yeah, i'll do it. >> reporter: they and the other foreign men all heading into war without the might of their country's military to back them up. >> reporter: i mean, you guys are going into war without a huge plan. what's your worry? >> not getting there. >> sara sidner joins me again from poland. sara, if some or a number of -- many of those foreign fighters -- don't have a plan or formal training, do they know what they're going to do once they go over the borders? is there somebody there from ukraine to meet them, to kind of take them to where they need to -- where they would be used? >> reporter: yeah, that's the

problem. with the group that we happened to see while we were in the train station walking through in sort of a military stack -- and that's how we noticed them, some of the camouflage on. we thought, this is an interesting group. they're going the opposite way than the crowd, of those who are refugees. they said that they didn't have anyone that they were planning on meeting on the other side of the border. that part of the plan hadn't been hatched yet, and they were just going to figure it out. as for the guy you saw there f from -- the french canadian man who called himself wally, they had a very good plan, if you will, at least to get them to where they wanted to go. they knew where they wanted to go to the front lines. they had arrived, they had contacts already in the country. so, it was concerning to hear this group of six people who said they had never met each other until they all arrived in poland, that they were going to go ahead. and i -- to be honest, not to be

the mother hen, but they didn't have the kind of gear that you need even for cold weather. so, very concerning. but they are determined to fight for what they believe is a fight for freedom and democracy, not just in ukraine but for everyone else. anderson? >> sara sidner, that's one of the things that's so good about you. you're on the front line of a story. you see something that's unusual, you ask them, you talk to them, you learn about it, and you tell us about it. it's -- it is wonderful to watch in action. sara sidner, thank you. just ahead someone who was in ukraine when the war began and has seen the humanitarian crisis up close. actor sean penn shares his thoughts on the crisis he witnessed first hand and talks about his impression of ukraine's president, who he met while he was there, on the cusp of t the invasion and on the da of. what matters most to her. and she can simply focus on right now. that's the planning effect. from fidelity.

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destroying many homes or businesses, way of life looking to flee, according to u.s. and western officials who is poised to, in their words, bombard cities into submission. perspective from someone who has seen the plight of ukrainians up close. he's worked in crisis zone across the globe. sean penn sat down with ukraine's president just before the invasion and is working on a documentary. sean, you're one of the few people who sat down with president zelenskyy on the eve of this invasion. are you at all surprised how he has led this country thus far? i mean, 44 years old. he went to law school. he was an actor and a comedian who played a president on television. he has rallied this nation in an extraordinary way. did it surprise you at all? >> you know, i -- when i talk about president zelenskyy, i think it should be said that i'm

talking about most of what i observed in ukrainian people. you know, we have these inspirational figures in our micro lives. you know, i have extraordinary children that inspire me, an extraordinary estranged wife who inspires me daily. and then there's the macro inspiration of these great figures of history. meeting with president zelenskyy the day before the invasion and then meeting with him again on the day of the invasion, i don't know if he knew that he was born for this. but it was clear i was in the presence of something -- and again, i think reflective of so many ukrainians -- that was new, that was new to the modern world in terms of courage and dignity and love that comes out of t