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this is "don lemon tonight," our breaking news, russian forces ramping up their attacks moving closer to kyiv, the capital city. the u.n. reporting more than 400 civilians have been killed since russia invaded ukraine nearly two weeks ago, and there are fears the actual number is much higher. the united states and nato sending nearly 20,000 missiles to help ukrainians fight back against the russian invaders and the pentagon is sending 500 more troops to europe to support our nato allies. let's get straight to cnn's
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michael holmes in lviv. we are seeing countless videos of homes, apartment buildings up in flames. this one we're looking at now is in kharkiv, and one of mikoliav, civilians are under attack. >> and you and i have talked about putin's play book. his plans go awry, and he resorts to brutal shelling, bombardment. no military target anywhere nearby in some of these places yet the rockets and artillery rain down. experts are saying because it looks like the russians have stalled on the ground. they have had problems with logistics and resupply as well as dealing with ukrainian counter attacks which have been very effective. they resort to what we are seeing. pound civilians increase the body count, break the will of the people that way. it's horrendous, and with no
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military targets nearby, it's undeniable, don. >> the president of ukraine is defiant. he has been defiant since the beginning delivering a message from his office for the first time since the war began. what did he have to say, michael? >> it was significant. he wasn't in a bunker or some underground area. he was at the presidential palace. it was a nine-minute address, as you say, his now trademark defiance. let's have a listen to some of what he had to say. >> translator: every ukrainian who yesterday, today and tomorrow have been and will be resisting against the occupants. we are together with you this this. we are not afraid. together with you, when the occupiers are starting the fire, trying to disburse all of us. you're not backing down, and we
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are not backing down. i'm not hiding and i'm not afraid of anyone. >> you remember, don, a day or two ago, there was talk of a just in case plan to get president zelenskyy out, perhaps to a neighboring country, perhaps here to lviv to run some sort of government exile if it came to that. in the speech he made it clear, i will stay here. he also said my team is with me. i will stay in kyiv, don. >> i want to put up some video for you, michael. this is from an occupied area near kherson. and the crowd is shouting in russian and ukrainian. you can hear it in the background, it says go home. this is the bravery that zelenskyy was talking about, correct? >> absolutely, don. that bravery, because that's what it is. it's courage. it's bravery. imagine doing that. that is played out across the country. people literally standing up to the russians. and sometimes it has to be said
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in the face of gunfire. there was that one man we saw, remember, climbing on a russian apc with the ukrainian flag. that is courage. the other thing, too, i would point out, don, it points to something important. if putin somehow thought he would roll in here and ukrainians would roll over or welcome or accept or be cowed by the russians, he was very wrong, and even if russia's superior military wins the main ground battle, taking territory isn't the same as holding territory, and many say it would become an insurgency here. people like those in that video and others will continue the fight, goruerrilla style, and sh insurgencies usually last years, don. >> michael holmes in lviv. i want to turn to a ukrainian writer and literary scholar whose home chs dewas destroyed
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russians and he joins us from kyiv. thank you, alexander, i appreciate you joining us. i'm so sorry to hear that your home was destroyed, and i'm so sorry for all of your ukrainian citizens and everything everyone is living through. what has it been like living in a city really under assault? >> that's a really terrific question because actually me and my wife, we live 70 millimeters from kyiv, and now it's one of the biggest places for the terror and the war there and everything started immediately in the first day, and as usually i research on this dark side of humanity, and what's war experience and everything but i never thought that my nation and my country would experience that
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ourselves and on my family as well. it's not only about my home. it's also about the home of my parents, for example, because they leave in baucha, which is really close, another essential point for russian occupants to go there so their house is just in front of the airport, and then the first day, my mom saw 13 helicopters that were bombing this airport, and now my parents lost their own house, and -- werch behawe haven't had the ability to evacuate them, and we stay with the nice people who host them. their whole life changed in just ten days. >> are there a lot of folks there, you said people just hosting other people, like the folks who are hosting your family. >> yeah, i don't know, the tram
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is not the right word but that's actually what's happening. we understand this is the war of the whole nation, and everybody should be useful with their instruments and their place. either volunteering with the refugees or hosting their friends or friends of friends or just try to do their best in each area it's possible to do. >> you know, poutin utin though country would just fold, united ukraine, the whole world is seeing it. talk about how ukrainians are responding and where that strength is coming from, alexander. >> there is a special feeling in the ukraine character that there is special cheerfulness. there's irony that's happening. and that started just from the first day. despite the horror, despite the
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bombing, we started laughing on putin's army. we started cheering up our own soldiers, and we have this special list of the ukrainian people's heroes, for example, farmers who took the tank with the instructor and he just dropped it. or the guys in one of kyiv's district, how they just, with their fists, they fought with the russian soldiers and took their techniques and all that, so now we have this hero or a postman with the special, i don't know how we call it, the rocket launcher, and he just shot the helicopter with this, and he is the boss man, and those are just these funny or cheering up the whole nation
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with these examples of how great we are. our defense and with the huge amount of the examples, how bad they are. which was to my mind, and as far as the other experts in the ukraine we think russia haven't understood anything about ukraine. they don't understand anything, starting with the idea that they would think that ukrainian nation will cheer up them with flowers and welcome them here, and continuing with the guys whom they would love to put as prime minister or the demands they are putting and everything, so they just don't understand that ukraine is independent modern young nation, and we will fight till the last. >> you wrote a piece for the "financial times" where you say
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the only language that can be spoken of the ukrainians right now is the language of war. what do you mean by that? >> by language of war i mean two things. one is that the whole language now is really direct. everybody knows like the whole world knows from the first day the sketch phrase, what the russian warship should do with himself, and now we have this direct language of swear words, just on the big boards around the country. saying what the russian warship and the russian army should do themselves, and we use more swearing words in our daily speech. because that's the stuff that helps us to free our e moigss and to exp-- our emotions and express ourselves and that's
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therapy on the level of language. on the other hand, the idea of the language of war is that we don't read books. he can't listen to music. we can't think about our plans. we have only one thing. we need to stay alive. and we need to stand as one, and that's the only idea, the only stuff that we are talking. the only one thing -- one point that we have in our mind to stay strong and in these terms, all of these fears of life might become the instruments of the world diplomacy, cultural diplomacy, talking to our friends through social media. talking with you, don, and the other media. trying to bring up all our own feelings, because it really important to understand that we
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should produce our own praying for ukraine, not only as putin said, and some western media did that through this time as ukraine is anti-russia. it is not antihigh te-russia. ukraine is ukraine. that's the point, we are not something opposite to that. we are something different and that's what i'm trying to say. >> i appreciate you coming on, and we think it's important that people get to hear from the people of ukraine t that the world gets to see it and hear it and try to understand wla you're going through, and hopefully it will bring this to a resolution, and hopefully that resolution will be peaceful soon. i appreciate you appearing. >> thank you so much. i want to bring in cnn military analyst, and retired colonel, cedric leighton, thank you so much. what do you think when you hear these stories? >> i think what alexander was
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talking about is the essence of what this fight is about. when you're looking at, you know, a writer like that who talks about the language of war and the kinds of things they are going through, we're talking about total war here. this is the war of a population against an occupying army and that's basically what're seeing here. >> yeah, let's talk about the strategy there, and you can show us around what's happening, what the strategy is. the pentagon warning russia is moving to a strategy of heavily bombarding cities after their troops haven't made any note worthy progress for a few days now really. where are the front lines tonight? >> that's a really interesting question. basically what we're looking at is front line is around kyiv, around kharkiv, and of course kherson and also the city of mariupol. so these areas right here kind of show the front lines. the front line is basically
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fluid. but it is somewhat static as well. it is not like what you would see here in this area, which is kind of a world war i like trench warfare situation. that is not at the moment at least what's happening either in the south or in the north, but what we are seeing is kind of a concentration or an effort for the russians to concentrate forces in certain areas. they're not being successful at leveraging those forces and moving them into all of these cities. >> we're learning that enormous convoy that's outside of kyiv has mainly resupplied vehicles, something the russian troops need because the pentagon says russia has major problems including fuel, food shortages. might need to bring in foreign fighters from as far away as syria. what impact would that have? >> foreign fighters, that's going to be an effort by the russians to change the balance of this war. those foreign fighters generally are known as ruthless fighters.
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they're going to go in and give no quarter to the ukrainian population. they are very dangerous for urban warfare. they have experience. particularly those that come from chechnya or syria. foreign fighters from those areas would be a difficult thing for the ukrainians to deal with, but them be dealt with. >> do you believe russia was prepared for this to last this loong? >> i don't believe so at all. i think they thought held roll over ukraine like they did in 1968 in czechoslovakia. that was a two-day affair. this is already much longer than that, and i think their war plans calls for a quick movement, quick takeover, and a quick installation of a pro russian government in ukraine. >> there's also a possibility of a pentagon back filling our nato allies like poland if they provide fighter joets to ukrain.
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how big of a difference would that make, and how do they get them into the kwcountry. how does this work? >> it has to work very carefully. one thing, what we see here is polish mig 29. to the right, a u.s. f 16 which the poll would get nix to the f 16s to fight their part of the fight should it come to that. as far as bringing aircraft into the country, that gets to be a little bit more difficult than what you would normally see in terms of normal logistics movements. generally they would have to fly out of poland into ukraine. it's possible to disassemble the aircraft and move them over ground but that is a much longer process and i doubt that they would actually do that. if they moved those aircrafts like this. i suspect they're going to fly them into the ukraine. the problem they're going to have is to make sure the a
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airfields they land them at are airfields that have not been damaged indefinitely. >> always learning a lot when we have you on. thank you, colonel, i appreciate it. >> you bet, don, absolutely. russia attacking targets, homes, churches, shelling. next, what urban warfare is like on the ground.
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residents trying to escape the bombs. joining me now is colonel john spencer at madison policy forum. i love having you on. i learn a lot from you every time you're on. thank you so much for joining, colonel. these new videos, this video shows the horror of this war. a residential apartment building up in flames. this is what's left of a school in the northern city of chernyv, that was weeks ago, and a church in a small town outside kyiv. are we seeing a new phase in this war? >> i think we're seeing the transition, don, really from what i would consider phase one to phase two, and the icc is already going to investigate these, and they say these are war crimes, those are protected sights. he's going to claim these are enemy locations, and this is really phase one of bombing. any enemy location, he'll say
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somebody had a weapon. that doesn't abstain him from the law of war requirement to protect civilians. there are all kinds of things that can be done to get civilians ouch there. unfortunately i think this is only the tip of the iceberg. this is not a war. this is an operation to take kyiv and all we're seeing are the supporting operations. this is going to get way uglier. >> i just want to warn this video that you're about to see is very difficult to watch. this is a russian strike hitting an evacuation route in a suburb of kyiv. watch this . >> shit, shit, shit.
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>> that's so fast, colonel, there's no way to get away from that. it happens in seconds, a second. multiple people were killed, including a mother and her two children seen in this horrific video. how can ukrainians hold on to their cities with this kind of attack? >> one, we as the international community have to demand that the civilians flee. the civilians are allowed to get out. you could see there there was somebody there with a weapon. he's going to claim that's the whole point of why militaries don't want to fight in urban areas because of the location to civilians and the restrictions that used to force. clearly russia is flying loose when the restrictions are forced, the way the ukrainians survive this is prepare for the next phase. this is going to get worse. and luckily there was some cease fires.
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just to be clear, if we empty all of these cities out of civilians, which is a common urban warfare tactic, when you want a city, give it time to empty civilians, and then the fire you can bring down because the restrictions are less. look at the battle of grozny, which is russian, which is only a city of 270,000. it was the smallest city. only had 2,000 fighters in it. they started off by bombing 3,000 rounds of artillery a day. that got up to 30,000 rounds a day. that's a round every 30 seconds for 24 hours. >> wow. this is more video that i want you to take a look at. it shows ukrainian police taking out russian tanks. their resistance is incredible, but you're saying ukraine doesn't have to win militarily. they yus hjust have to buy time. how do they do that?
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>> this is really a chess game. we know what they need to take kyiv. we know they need armor, they need tanks. they need mechanized infantry, artillery. the ukrainians are picking them apart as they try to get to where they're going. i wish they would be from a more c concealed operation. no one goes into the fight without armor. how do you prevent them from doing that. thousands and thousands. a javelin is a more lethal tank killer. take away all of their tanks, and i'm telling you, ukraine can survive. and they also have to get underground. i put out a tweet about the underground network in kyiv. it's crazy. if they can get underground, survive the bombardments that are going to come, and you know i keep say this because i have hope, and i know the defenders have the advantage. russia is demoralized and that would be even if they were the best army in the world and they
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are far from it, because of the time they've given kyiv to pair the defense, and see them doing that. like you said, every day we have a talk, ukraine is winning, they're preparing to turn koyiv into a mind grinder. they have reached the gates. hopefully the gates of fire. they're going to start hitting it, and i mean, beyond what i think anybody is really expecting, especially if you can get the civilians out. it's almost at his advance. i'm talking world war two, thousands of rounds a day, and they have to get to me, two places they can survive and be ready to fight. >> colonel spencer, thank you, we'll see you soon. >> thank you. the world watching as russia invades ukraine, bombing civilian homes. will anything get vladimir putin to step down. the former direct of national intelligence james clapper joins me n next.
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as russia bombards cities and targets civilian infrastructure, there are increasing concerns about just how far vladimir putin will go with this war on ukraine. let's discuss now, cnn national security analyst james clapper. by the way he's the former director of national intelligence. he joins us now. thank you, director clapper. appreciate seeing you.
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ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy recorded a video from his office just today, the first time that we have seen him there since the invasion began, really. is this dangerous for him to do this? >> well, i think it was pretty brave of him. maybe even brazen, but i think when he does that, he's really poking putin in the eye, and i think he's doing a little psychological operations on pit y putin himself, the fact that he made that broadcast from his normal office, so i think you have to hand it to president zelenskyy, and who would have thought that somebody, a former actor, comedian, would rise to the occasion like he has, but he really has been an inspiration, not only to ukraine but the rest of the free world. >> you know, we're used to, speaking to someone in ukraine earlier, and talking about, you know, how used to a free press we are. russia doesn't have that,
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especially right now. the information black hole is getting so severe that some families split between ukraine and russia don't even believe each other's narratives about the conflict. sounds a little bit familiar as to what's happening here. this is a woman i spoke to. her name is lisa, and her family is in russia. here she is. >> they can't believe that russians are doing anything wrong. they cane believe that russians are hitting civilian buildings. >> her own family, director, doesn't believe what she is seeing with her own eyes. what she's experienced. it is shocking believing putin rather than your own family's personal account of what's happening to them. >> yeah, that's -- has a familiar ring to it, doesn't it. that is, i will tell you, is putin achilles heel, i think. you know, he is paranoid about
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information. you know, if you mention the word war or invasion, you go to jail for 15 years. they have clamped down. there is virtually no independent media left because putin, and his cronies are so afraid of real truth getting out. and that's an area we absolutely must exploit. you've had former secretary bill cohen on who's very eloquent and passionate about this, and i think he's absolutely right, and we need to exploit that as a weapon, weaponized information against putin because that's the truth is what he's really afraid of. >> i want to ask you quickly about this z symbol that we have seen on some of the russian military equipment. director is now spreading across russia for supporters of the war. with all the misinformation in russia are you worried that the russian support for the war could actually grow in the coming weeks? >> i'm sorry, don, i didn't hear
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that. could you repeat the question. i didn't hear it. it's about the z, are you worried their support for the war could grow because we're seeing all heroes z symbols in support of the war. >> i don't think so. i kind of thought those z sim bombs were just, you know, what the military often does so people can identify who's who in the zoo with respect to the vehicles. i think there's a generational gap to a certain extent in russia, and i don't think young people are quite as gullible as a lot of older people that are more traditionally minded. and again, that's a gulf we need to exploit. i don't worry about it too much, but i think we need to be more aggressive about figuring out ways to get the truth to the people of russia. >> agreed. thank you, director. i'll see you soon. >> thanks, don.
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many families of russian soldiers sent to fight in ukraine are desperate for news about their loved ones. they say they're not getting
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information from the russian government so they're turning to an unlikely source for help, a hot line run by ukrainians. the story tonight from cnn's alex marquardt in kyiv. >> reporter: these are the voices of russians, parents, wives, siblings desperately searching for answers. calling to find information, anything, on russian soldiers they've lost contact with who are fighting in ukraine who may be wounded, captured or even killed. >> this russian wife like many others has turned to an unlikely
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source for help, the ukrainians. in the ukrainian government building, christina, which is her alias, is in charge of a hot line called come back from ukraine alive, which ukraine's interior ministry says has gotten over 6,000 calls. christina asked that we don't show her face. your country is being invaded but you also feel the need to help these russian families, why? the russian relatives who have called this hot line say they
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haven't heard from their soldiers since the invasion. the hot line, which russian families have found on social media or through word of mouth gave cnn exclusive recordings of a number of the calls. what are some of the calls that stick out to you that you remember the most? these are the notes from one of the calls, and in fact, this call came from the united
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states. the relative of a young russian soldier trying to find him. she told the ukrainians that his parents are no longer alive, that the grandmother in russia is quite sick. we have his birthday, he is just 23 years old, and he was last known to be in crimea, right before the invasion. now, the ukrainians don't have any information on him, but if they do find him or get some information, they can then call his aunt back in the united states. data from the hot line shows thousands of calls not just from all across russia, but also from europe and the united states. hello, is this marat. >> yes, it is. >> reporter: we got through to three rels of russian soldiers believed to be in ukraine who called the hot line, including a relative in virginia who also found the soldier's id and photos on a channel of the social media app telegram, also dedicated to finding the whereabouts of russian soldiers. >> we do realize that all the
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signs are point to go that he is most likely killed in action, but we're trying to locate information, where is the body, could they be potentially found, maybe hopefully he's alive. >> reporter: is the russian ministry of defense telling anything to the family? >> the family is trying to not get contacted by anybody, just because everyone is so scared in russia. everyone is scared to talk. everyone is afraid of the law enforcement agencies tracking them. >> reporter: marina told us her cousin's parents have had no contact, no information on his whereabouts or condition. >> are they being told anything? >> no, no, they tried to find, but no one is answer. >> reporter: is that why you called this ukrainian hot line?
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>> yeah, that's why i tried to call here. >> reporter: did you get any information? >> no, nothing. i was, you know, hoping he was like in prison or something like that, you know, that he's still alive. >> reporter: the vast majority of the calls do not result in immediate information for the families. back in kyiv, christina makes clear that the call center isn't just designed to offer answers but to galvanize russians against the war. >> reporter: sympathy for families but also one more way to try to undermine the russian war effort as ukraine fights for its very existence. alex marquardt, cnn, kyiv. >> alex, thank you very much. wnba super star brittney
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tonight, calls are growing louder for russia to release wnba star brittney griner, a two-time olympic gold met h medalist from detention. she was apparently arrested for possessing cannabis oil. whereabouts since her arrest are
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unknown. cn's lieu vi kavanaugh has the story for us. >> wnba star brittney griner in her own words. telling espn about the isolation of playing basketball off season in russia. >> it made me open up to my family more on telling 'em like how much i love them. >> reporter: those lessons now more grim as griner seen here at the airport entering russia is detained at a security checkpoint for allegedly having can cannabis oil in a vape pen. the video and details zwrukt emerging but russian customs fibers say the arrest happened in february. a criminal case has been opened with a possible punishment up to ten years in prison, if convicted. all of this against the backdrop of war. >> they are really like your second family. >> debbie jackson coached griner at a houston high school. kuling her disciplined and humble. jackson isn't surprised griner went on to become a seven-time
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wnba all star in phoenix and two time olympic gold medalist. her message now for her former student? >> you have always had a true resolve and grit to get to the finish line. and know that you will get to the finish line. >> reporter: griner's wife on instagram telling her, my heart, our hearts are all skipping beats every day that goes by. i miss your voice. i miss your presence. those familiar with russian policy say griner's sexual orientation may also be a complicating factor. >> russia has some very, very res strict lgbt rules and laws. that may be part of this, also. >> you are worried that is part of this? >> i wouldn't be surprised. >> california congressman says the lack of a diplomatic channel with russia amid the war in ukraine is a huge roadblock. secretary of state antony blinken said the u.s. is working this and other cases like that of trevor reid held in russia for more than two years.
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telling the u.s. embassy he has no medical attention behind bars. >> we are doing everything we can to see to it their rights are upheld and respected. >> reporter: like others, griner plays in russia during the off season where the pay is better. now, her toughest challenge moves to a different kind of court. >> you are always hoping for the best, and cheering for them to stay on top. >> lucy kafanov, cnn, phoenix, arizona. >> lucy, thank you. and thank you for watching, everyone. o our live coverage continues. when we found out our son had autism, his future became my focus. lavender baths calmed him. so we made a plan to turn th time into a business. ♪ ♪ find a northweern mutual advisor at nm.com
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when you're driving a lincoln, stress seems to evaporate into thin air. which leaves us to wonder, where does it go? does it shoot off like a rocket? or float off into the clouds? daddy! or maybe it takes on a life all its own. perhaps you'll come up with your own theory of where the stress goes. behind the wheel of a lincoln is a mighty fine place to start.
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