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your dreams. i hope you here the skraems of the families who found their loved ones dead on the bathroom floor. i home you hear the sirens. i home you their heart monitor as it beats along with a failing pulse. the settlement says they must pay up to $6 billion to settle oxycontin lawsuits. half a million americans have died from overdoses. "ac360" starts now. long range bombardment and lies. throws the russian tactics going into week three of the war in ukraine. as to the potential of encirclement, it has redeployed. you can see the tire tracks and vehicles in the small town, according to the company that produces them.
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they show some elements, most note by the artillery, are seen taking cover in a sparse batch of trees nearby in lubyanka. ten mails west of the base, a number of fall trucks and what they say appears to be multiple rocket launchers are seen in a field near trees. add tom what we already know, that russian forces have drawn closer to the capital with the closest elements about nine miles away. they are being met so far by serious resistance. take a look at a video of a tank column being ambushed on the eastern edge of town. the speaking voices you hear are in russian. [ speaking in foreign language ]
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>> that video was released by the video defenses showing the russian column apparently being picked off one by one. we mentioned lies at the top of the broadcast. this one from russia's foreign minister is staggering. >> we do not plan to attack other countries and we did not attack ukraine. >> we did not attack ukraine, sergey lavrov says. after talks apparently went nowhere. the first part remains to be seen . >> as for the attacks, you've seen the attacks yourself that have killed 549 civilians,
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innocent people, according to an estimate released today about the united nations. that attack you saw there was on civilians who were evacuating from irpin. four were killed in that strike that you are watching right there. you see the people rushing to their borders. mr. lavrov didn't stop there. he also lied about the attack on the maternity hospital in mariupol, in so many words, trying to say the wounded patients being held by hospital staff through the bombed out complex didn't exist. that the world did not see what it did in fact see. >> translator: at a meeting of the u.n. security council, fact, our delegation presented facts about this maternity hospital having long been seized by the battalion and other radicals, and they have driven all the pregnant women and all the nurses out of it and set up a
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base for the ultra radical islam battalion. >> again, unless the people wounded there belonged to the expectant mothers wing, the other members were all dressed as civilians and hospital staff. that is a lie. what is true is that 24 medical facilities have now been attacked since the war began, according to new figures from the world health organization. more than 2 million ukrainians have been forced to flee the country. another nearly 2 million are internally displaced, many due to the relentless bombardment which has also produced a moment of remarkable cool under pressure. a moment you're about to see the ukrainian services team gingerly removing the detonator from an unexploded russian bomb. we hear a bird chirping away in the background.
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>> utter calm in a storm that is only expected to grow. clarissa ward is in kyiv. nick paton walsh is in odesa. >> reporter: russia's siege on the ukrainian city of mariupol is only growing more devastating. massive craters from russian attacks. the city digging mass graves from what the deputy mayor said are at least 1,300 civilian deaths. the red cross says hundreds of thousands are without food, heat and medical care. russia continues to say it is not doing this. local authorities also accused
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russia of bombing a humanitarian corridor. >> they constitute war crimes. they are attacks on civilians that cannot be justified by any, in any way, whatsoever. >> reporter: the high level diplomatic meeting between russia and ukraine failed to bring results. >> i came here with a humanitarian purpose, to walk out from the meeting with a decision to arrange a humanitarian corridor in and from mariupol. unfortunately, minister lavrov was not in a position to commit himself to it. >> reporter: the diplomacy has done nothing to stop the war. the russian foreign minister today even made the extraordinarily false claim that russia did not attack ukraine, as the invasion enters its third week. ukraine is claiming a victory in the north. these images show what they say
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is a defeated tank regimen northeast of the capital kyiv. the local government says there's heavy fighting around the city. on the black sea, the port city of odesa is preparing for a fate. the regional military accused the ship from firing over the sky in the city. >> translator: i can see what's happening in the country and i don't want russian troops to take our city. we're trying to set up a force to resist them. >> reporter: russia defending -- >> this is completely consistent with longstanding russian efforts to accuse the united states. >> reporter: the allies warn such actcusations by the kremlin -- >> there is no talk of cemetery cal with thats. >> reporter: vice president kamala harris is in poland after the collapse of a potential deal
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the ship mig-29 fighter jets to ukraine. harris announced additional humanitarian funning for civilians affected by the war. >> the united states the prepared to do what we can and must. >> reporter: cnn at the pentagon. >> we'll be joined shortly by the retired four star general david a petraeus for his state of play militarily. let's first check in on our correspondents, starting with clarissa in kyiv. what are you hearing in kyiv as diplomatic talks fail? >> reporter: there was a lot of fighting today. where before it has been concentrated in the northwest and the west city, today we saw quite a worrying development, basically russian forces making a big push for the east of the city. and particularly for an eastern suburb. you showed that video earlier on where you see the massive column
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of russian tanks bearing down on that road, heading into the capital. now, they are facing a fierce fight. ukrainian forces are hunkered down in positions all along that road. you can see them there. presumably using javelins or some time of anti-tank missile to pick off the tanks one by one and creating some formidable resistance in the process. but the concern here is that obviously, this feeds into the hypothesis that russian forces are attempting to completely encircle the city. we heard this again from the mayor of kyiv himself. he said make no mistake about it. kyiv is the prize. and the goal hear is to surround the city, bombard it and try to overthrow government from outside. now the primary concern becomes on isolating which routes there are still from the city for civilians to flee. the mayor also said, anderson,
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nearly half the population of kyiv has left in the last two weeks. that's up to 2 million people, by some estimates. so clearly the situation deteriorating quickly and a lot of concern about what this poretends. this push from the east. >> how many routes, clarissa, i assume there are a number of roads into and out of kyiv. so there are many different, the russians are clearly traveling on the roads. so ukrainian forces would know what routes they are coming, no? >> reporter: and this is the thing. in a sense, these russian tanks are sitting ducks because they're using the roads and because the ukrainians are able to blow up the bridges leading into certain parts of the city to keep them from moving forward. when you're driving around the city, you can see them everywhere. there are tank trucks, defensive positions where they have built
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down dixes along the roadside and where they will be laying in wait for the russians as they try to push in toward the capitol. what that then leads to is the fear that russia will have to respond by using more of the indiscriminate shelling and bombing we've seen in places like mariupol where large parts of the city have been flattened. where civilians have been trapped with no heat, no water, no electricity. there has been a really cold spell. you have to think of the thousands and thousands of people who are currently trapped in basements. some of them have been evacuated. in fact, a lot of them have but many are still trapped in their homes and have far fewer expectations of being able to get out along the so-called corridors, which as we know, have a very mixed record for being safe and effective for people to use.
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>> yeah. the temperatures are expected to drop even further across the ukraine in the days ahead. nick, you are in southern ukraine. how is the war progressing near you, i guess is the question. >> reporter: yeah. we had an unexpected moment down here in the desert where the sirens seem to be more persistent than we had seen them in the past. partly because a russian warship seemed, according to officials, on the horizon and fired five shots. it's not clear whether those landed anywhere. but the ukrainian suggestion is that they may have been intended to see how ukraine's defenses would react to the presence of that ship. that may be a harbinger of something to come. amphibious landings maybe being part of the broader plan for the third largest city in ukraine. a vital gateway to the rest of the world. and it feeds into the noises we heard later on that day on the skyline behind me.
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we think anti-aircraft fired just before dusk, two bursts of that. that's unusual. it's been very quiet today. that may be a reflection of the increased pressure from the east. now, certainly in kherson, for about a weak now, we've spotted a rail column has moved into that particular city. that may suggest reinforcements. there seems to be some armor on that train to reinforce the positions and then move west toward mykolaiv. we've been seeing the extraordinary telephone to civilians, the indiscriminate and ugly bombing of residential areas by russian forces on the outskirts. those russian forces have failed so far to really get into the city, and today the regional head talked about how check points had seen ukrainian losses
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on the outskirts of the city but also, russian armor had been hit by air strikes. they posted a leaflet at the cheat sheet for russians who might want to surrender, with a number to call of claiming they captured many who that they were on a training exercise. still, the pressure does appear to be building from crimea around to the west toward here in odesa with a broad question of, at some point, this third largest city has to feel some element of russian pressure if there is a sustained kremlin plan to sustain the broader economy of ukraine. so far this russian speaker cultural pot spot left kawhi. many here anxious that won't last. >> what more is the white house saying about how they would or would not respond to a chemical attack by russia? >> reporter: they're not really offering many details on what that would look like. you hear the reports about the
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indiscriminate bombings. if putin were to conduct a chemical weapons attack, that would ratchet things up even further. the white house said they do believe he is laying the ground work to potentially do that by spreading the false theories that the united states is developing biological weapons in ukraine, which officials have said across the board is not true. but they do fear that will happen. and i think the big question, certainly one posed to the white house multiple times today, is whether or not that changes president biden's calculus that he won't send in u.s. forces to ukraine. he said that is a red line for him. he is not sending the u.s. forces in, no intention of putting the boots on the ground. i think there is a really question of whether or not that changes his calculus. and jen psaki told me today, right now his story is still that u.s. forces won't go into ukraine to fight russian forces. that maintains it. it is still a happy athletic cal if putin will use chemical
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weapons. i'm told them warning that this will happen is more than a pattern. it is more than just putin having done it before and laying the groundwork to do it again. that indicates there is maybe intelligence that they do believe he is planning to conduct a chemical weapons attack. we don't know when or where or how confident they are that could happen but it seems to be more than just a hunch. that this is something he's preparing to do. >> and are residents still able to evacuate in kyiv? what are their options for getting out? you were at the train station with people trying to get out. is that still an option? >> the trains are still operating from kyiv central station, and the evacuations are ongoing. the russians have said those corridors are open every day from 10:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. moscow time. so 9:00 local time. the problem is they would like to see them moving through
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belarus and into russia, a nonstarter. but they have been able to continue. bringing people into the city center. volodymyr zelenskyy tonight released another video message where he said across the country, 100,000 people were successfully evacuated from their homes today. but the images that you're seeing of the state that people are in, who are being evacuated. especially at this late time. the suburb today, you saw an orphanage being evacuated, and two very sick little toddlers, who one of they will looked like they will completely unconscious. they had run out of medicine. they had no heat in this orphanage. they didn't have a proper way to cook food because there's no gas. so it is becoming increasingly dangerous and difficult to keep evacuating people from these existing corridors. but nonetheless we see the very brave volunteers of the red cross going out every day,
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facing russian check poigts. i spoke to one journalist 28 the red cross. they drove into the area and the russians jumped out of the forest and held them all at gunpoint. so this is petrifying and incredibly dangerous work but yes, it does continue. >> all right. thank you. coming up next, the new indications of the convoy snake the long convoy seemingly being repositioned. later, showing gratitude to ukrainian refugees by giving them a place to stay. it's more like...a feeling. turning that feelingng into a roadmap...for free? that's the planning effect fromom fidelity. we hit the bike trails every weekend shinges doesn't care. i grow all my own vegetables shingles doesn't care.
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the problem is what to make of it. we turn to our former cia director, general petraeus. what is your reaction to these new images? what do you make of what that convoy is doing? >> it is really just adhering to normal standards that they should have been adhering to all along. our soldiers trained that when you stop, you don't stay on a road. you don't stay visible to anything from the air. you hold under cover. whether it is trees or whatever you can find. you certainly don't stay again, exposed. the way that they were for so many days. it was really again, staggering that that happened. and you saw in the footage that you're showing right now, in fact, another case where an armored battalion is caught in the open. apparently by a drone that appears to be filming this. may have been directing the fire as well. and again, it is sort of unconscionable that this could
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happen. they're also bunched together. would you always want to stay much farther apart than that. so again, these are basic standards that clearly have not been established and they're certainly not performing in accordance with what normal standards would be for our forces. >> clarissa ward was talking about the defenses which are everywhere in a city like kyiv, on every street, hedge hogs, they hit on sides of roads. and we know that the molotov cocktails that have been dispersed. given that, is it likely that russian forces will just try to level these cities before actually going in? because you've talked about it before. they don't have enough troops to really adequately undertake block by block, urban combat. >> that's correct. as we discussed before, it is
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also incredibly physically demanding and mentally draining. i'm starting to think they won't even be able to encircle kyiv. again, that blow struck against an armored regiment. the russian in that clip that you played earlier is also reporting that the regimental commander was killed. that's an strard blow. you add that to the other casualties. the other losses of armor and personnel and so forth. you just can't keep sustaining that kind of loss. the column from the east in particular, where this was ambushed is so long and so vulnerable given the logistical lines required for that that there is no way, i don't think, that they'll be able to sustain their forces coming from that direction which means they probably can't get around to the south and really close the city off which could be very, very good news for kyiv in the sense that at least it could be replied, even if the russians
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try to lay siege to it from the other directions. from the north and to a degree, from the west. as you noted, what they will do is back off. they're just going to rubble the city block by block. but normally, you would need to move in at least to have observation. fair. although they've certainly done lots of indiscriminate fire as we've seen into mariupol in particular. that situation, i think, has to be the one really eating at the president. president zelenskyy, the minister of defense, chief of general staff, trying to figure out any way they could to lift that siege, to break into mariupol, to restore the basic services and so forth. it is pretty clear, they just don't have the reserves to do that. even though they've stopped the russians around kharkiv and the thrust that was discussed earlier from crimea toward odesa. it is stopped in a city called
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mykolaiv where the general is turning into a real hero. if they've rigged the bridges for destruction, if they can't get across that river, they have to go much farther to the north and then down to the southwest to odesa. and again, there is no way they'll maintain those lo logistical lines. >> for mariupol, for them to take it, just for future reasons, they've allegedly, according to u.s. senior defense officials, they've encircled it. would it be possible, is the same thing at play there to actually occupy that city, to move in? that it would be extremely difficult for russian forces? it is a. smaller city than kyiv. >> i think what they're trying to do there is literally starve it into submission. the water is cut off. the power is cut off.
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very, very desperate situation. you showed how bodies, you can't even do proper burials for bodies at this point in time. what they'll do is starve it until it submits. until the officials there in charge surrender. i assume, is their hope. that would then enable them to complete the land bridge from crimea to the donbas, the area in the southeast. they will have denied that entire portion of the coast to ukraine. so it is really a matter of time unless the ukrainians can figure out how to break that siege somehow. and get supplies in, restore basic services and so forth. i'm sure that is issue that is really bedevilling them. and commanders allocate shortages. you never have enough of anything. so what they may have to do is reallocate some forces from somewhere elsewhere they seem to be doing better than perhaps
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they feared when the plan was developed initially to try to get down there. otherwise, at some point in time, that will become the first major city in ukraine to follow. and it will also free up the forces that are encircling it to some degree at least, and that could be a problem elsewhere as well. >> just one final question. just from the perspective of a guerrilla fate, how effective is a molotov cocktail? clearly there are a lot of them around them. i know they have accel rant inside to make them stickier. one person was saying against a tank, they are closed systems that do have an air i am take. if you throw it at the air intake, it smokes out the people inside the tank. is that true? >> well, again, we have some views about the russians systems that so far are not proving true. they're much less well equipped
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than we believed. to believe they worked as advertised probably is worth at least asking about. what you really need to do is get the hatches to pop somehow. the normal way that's done, and even our tanks going into baghdad, they could get swarmed. if the infantry is not around them, you could have a problem at some point in time. what you really want to do is get the molotov cocktail inside the tank turret. to do that, you have to get them off those hatches. and there are various ways. you can also perhaps, depending on how exposed the engine grates are, there are places that are flammable. against thin skinned vehicles, they can be devastating and there are other circumstances in which they can be revaluable. what you have to do is as we've seen, russians have been very poor at achieving combined arms
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effects. they sent tanks alone without infantry. infantry alone without tanks. no engineers around them to help with obstacles and so forth, and not supported by artillery creeping along in front, the fire in front of them as required. so again, they could be very vulnerable. or as you saw, if they're out in the open, and either ground or air observation can identify them, then the right forces can be brought to bear as they were, very aggressively only road. you can't sustain that kind of loss day by day and still have combat executivive forces. >> thank you. i appreciate your expertise. thank you. >> a pleasure. thanks. up next, thanks to a surrogate in ukraine, you'll meet an american man who is a dad and now he's getting back to the country to help refugees, coming up.
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vice president harris today pledged support for the refugees. this as the u.s. estimates 2 million people have fled ukraine. they've escaped the violence but life for a refugee is not easy as they leave behind everything without knowing when they'll return. often with little more than a bag or two. this is an american who lives in spain. he has a child born via surrogate in ukraine in 2020.
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he wanted to help the people of ukraine and traveled to poland to book air bnbs to families and offer them help in whatever way he could. he joins us tonight. i want to start with your connection to ukraine. you live in both san francisco and barcelona. your daughter daisy was born just about two months before my son wyatt was born. she was born to a ukrainian surrogate. can you talk a little about your decision to come to the border and help? i understand she was born actually in kharkiv. >> yeah. that's correct. so we maintain a pretty close relationship with her surrogate mother julia who is still in kharkiv with her 8-year-old son, and the days approaching when the war broke out, we were concerned. we were hoping that she might consider coming out. but like a lot of ukrainians,
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she's pretty stoic and decided that's her home. she is not going to leave. so when war broke out, i mean, i was probably crying for the first 24 hours, and i mean, when somebody is in harm's way like that, there is nothing more helpless than feeling like you're distant and you can't do anything about it. and then that's the moment i decided to book a flate and fly to krakow and see what difference i could make for at least the people coming through here as well. >> i think, i mean, i find it so amazing, and so wonderful. not only your ongoing concern for the surrogate but so many people feel helpless and want to do something. and you were seeing on it television and in barcelona and decided, i'm going to krakow in
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poland and see what i can do. i understand you headed first to the train station at the border with poland. how did you figure out what role you would end up playing? >> you know, i had a lot of ideas of coming in and being helpful and a lot of that is a bit of ego. you get to the train station and this was early days before it got really, really, a bit overwhelmed there. you arrived and then you meet the people and suddenly you realize that the needs are very simple but super important. and again, leaving ego aside, you talk to people working there and they clearly know what's needed and i don't speak polish, i don't speak russian, i don't speak ukrainian. within like 20 minutes of being at the train station, i was being matched with families that had just been assigned homes in
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krakow and needed somebody to get them there. and immediately, i started shuttling people back and forth. i had an air bnb and i just told the people i was working with, when i finish may shift, you know, match me up with a family who needs a place and we'll figure it out from there. >> and how many families, how many people now have you helped out? >> i was working six-hour shifts in the morning and then more in the afternoon, driving people. so i kept all my parking payment tickets as a way of figuring out what my pace was. and i think i was driving like eight or nine families a day. and then i've been here ten days. i keep getting bigger air bnbs so i can host more people.
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yeah. i think i have hosted about maybe 60 people? so krakow is saturated. there is no more room for people. so we're not keeping them for very long. we're not pushing them away but we're trying to get them on to a train station so we can bring more people in. when i say 60 people, that means overnight. i get to meet them. i have breakfast with them. i sometimes buy them flights or train tickets if they're trying to go far away. and then there is more space so we can take another family in. >> so you -- we've met over instagram. you sent me a message on instagram and you sent me pictures of a family currently in your giant air bnb. explain how big an air bnb you have and how many people you have there? >> a few nights ago i was matched with a family of 13 children, two babies under 6
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months, and four adults. and we've been here two days. you will see some pictures there, yeah. >> wait a minute. how many children? >> so there are 15. two of them are babies. and they were planning on sleeping rough. i was matched to them at close to midnight and then brought them home with the help of four drivers and i expected the next morning to be tough. and i woke up to kids laughing in the hallway. which is, i mean, there is no better joy after what they've been through to understand that they're resilient and they don't stop being kids. >> i also heard, i saw a facebook post you gave in which up, when they got there, there was some sort of hesitancy and stuff. when it was time for bed, it was kids going to bed like anywhere in the world. it was kids getting ready for bed.
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>> yeah. it's all in ukrainian and russian. but as a parent of small children it all sounds the same. you know, some kids don't want to go to bed. other kids are still playing their video games. i mean, the only thing strange is it is a household of 15 kids. i have my one and suddenly, i'm like an uncle to all these monkeys. like my breakfast table looks like i'm eating with raccoons. you will see pictures of them literally in my lap trying to get food from me. they all love hugs. it's amazing. i'm kind. overdosing on serotonin from all the childcare. >> what does your daughter think? what does daisy think? she is just over 2 years old. how does she feel about having all these folks around you? >> well, she's not with me. part of this is, i may not,
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ukraine is her real family. and in a way, my family is partly her chosen family. so for me, being here is something that i was doing for her. she is too young to understand any of this but someday, yvonne, the father of the family, it is an extended family. these 15 children. i mean, daisy has cousins. like, she's an only child but now she has real ukrainian family. >> yeah. friends and family for life. >> i mean, unconditional live when you bring people into your home is really simple charity. these are strangers. it is radical empathy. and the way i've kind of described it to myself to make it make sense. this is anti-war. and really, this is what humanitarian should be like and it is sad that this is what
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brings it out. but at the same time, it is nice to be a helper. >> thank you. so for all you're doing. if you want to learn more about what he is doing, you can go to facebook and search for daveed. he has a lot more about what he is doing on his facebook page. and care bridge. daveed. and care bridge. i think it is fascinating what he's doing. he wanted to help however he could and he got some air bnbs and he's helping families. today vice president harris saying, the eyes of the world are on this war and we should all be asking. some are asking, will the u.s. and the west do more to help ukraine? can anything more be done without getting into a world war with russia? why have over twtwo million people welcomed
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pressure is growing on the united states and nato allies to try to do more to stop the war. there's still hesitancy to get involved in a wider conflict with russia. would there be a red line for the u.s. to send troops in? the white house is warning
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russia may use chemical weapons but is not saying whether president biden would let an attack like that go unanswered. >> i won't get into hypotheticals. they have the capacity and the capabilities. i won't get into intelligence. the president's intention of sending u.s. military to fate in ukraine against russia has not changed. >> that sounds like, even if there is a chemical weapons attack, that calculus will not change. i want to be clear on what the u.s. response would be. >> again. there has not been a chemical weapons attack. >> is there any red line? >> i won't get into red lines from here. >> a foreign relations committee member, democrat chris murphy from connecticut. senator murphy, do you think vladimir putin attacking ukraine with chemical weapons should prompt the u.s. to act in some way? obviously, in the obama administration, he had to lay down rade line in sorry and we
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all know the end result of that. >> yeah. i frankly think this exercise is not helpful. there are a million different hight hypotheticals that you can go down as to whether or not the united states should get involved or not get involved. i do think it's important to realize that it's not in the united states' interest to get into a conflict with another nuclear superpower. that is and could be the beginning of world war iii. that could lead to the use of nuclear weapons. that is why the united states has never gotten into a direct confrontation with russia or the soviet union, not in any of our lifetimes. so, i just don't think right now that's a useful exercise to imagine hypotheticals. we should be focused on helping the ukrainians but staying out of direct conflict with russia. >> it is extraordinary what we
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are witnessing with the ukrainian capabilities, which have been incredible enhanced by the united states, not just most immediately with surface-to-air missiles, but also just in the years, the last several years, building up and building up the capabilities of ukrainian army. is there more -- and it seems like supplies are still able to come in. do you see the u.s. providing even more of these kind of weapons or european partners providing more of these kind of weapons? >> well, to your point, not far from where you are is the training center, and there, the united states, with u.s. personnel, has been training ukrainian troops to fight on the eastern front for the better part of the last ten years. and so we have to remember that this commitment we've made to the ukrainian military, it didn't just start a couple months ago. we actually have been embedded with the ukrainians for the last
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six to seven years, helping to make them better fighters. and you are seeing that paying off. first and foremost, it is their bravery. it is their capability. but the capacity of the ukrainians has gotten better because of u.s. involvement. answer your question about what to do next, yes, absolutely, we should continue to flow support and weapons and arms to ukraine. but we should make sure that the weapons we're transferring are ones they can actually use and are going to be the most effective in helping to defend their country. >> you know, there's been a lot of focus on a no fly zone, which the ukrainians have been asking for. most of the military analysts who are looking at this are saying, look, it's actually not most of the damage being done by russian forces are long range artillery, you know, as opposed to coming from -- from airplanes. the problem, of course, is there's not much to be done about knocking out that artillery by ukrainian forces.
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>> i think the bigger problem is that this use of the term "no fly zone," suggests that it actually exists. there's no such thing as a no fly zone over ukraine. just as if we declared a no invasion zone on the ground in ukraine, the only way we could make that a reality is to put hundreds of thousands of u.s. forces. the only way to actually enforce a no fly zone is to have u.s. planes shooting down russian planes. the russians aren't going to honor that declaration, and thus we are at war with russia. i think you're right that the threat is much more based on their ground based missiles, but it is also true that the idea of a no fly zone exists kind of only in the imagination. >> senator chris murphy, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you. just ahead, an update on a story we brought you earlier this week, a reunion of two people who witnessed one of the most shocking tragedies we've
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want to give you an update now on a story we brought you earlier this week. you may remember the sickening tragedy outside of kyiv documented by a "new york times" photographer and journalist, both of whom joined us this week to share the story. a mother and her children, along with a fourth person, killed by a mortar blast while trying to escape to safety. we're about to show you that video. we warn you, it is disturbing. [ bleep ]
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. >> stay there. >> all right. [ bleep ] . >> now, we've isolated this frame from the video. you see that man there is a ukrainian volunteer. oak oleksandr is his name. there was confusion afterwards about whether or not he was alive. ten minutes before that attack, he had used his own body to cover her from the shelling.
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we have to report that the two were reunited. linsey posted this to her instagram account. you see three photo there is. on the left, oleksandr protecting linsey minutes before the attack, literally covering her with his body. at the top right, just moments before the attack, in that last photo is the reunion. linsey says he's got shrapnel in his leg and stones in his back. the doctor says in one month he'll be in good condition. as you can tell, ukrainians are not backing off this fight, far from it. some russian soldiers just miles from kyiv are being met with serious resistance. latest developments from ukraine next.