we consume gas is smaller today even at $6 a gallon than it was ten years ago, than it was 40 years ago. >> reporter: what's different now is how americans feel in 2022. >> we're hitting up on, you know, exhaustion on human beings. >> reporter: so you're exhausted and pull into the gas station and you see that. >> and you're more exhausted. >> reporter: ruben ponce fears that uncertainty won't stop at his truck and will trickle down to the average consumer. is that coming to their house? is that going to come to their bank account in. >> i don't see how it's not. food, clothes, whatever it is we're all going to feel it. >> reporter: kyung lah, cnn, long beach, california. >> ac 360 starts now. good evening from lviv, ukraine. we come to you tonight that

russia is widening the geographic scope of the fighting and concern it could be laying the groundwork to possibly use chemical weapons. since we left you last night russia targeted two cities here in western ukraine. air ride sirens were sounding as we went off the air, though the actual strikes were about 90 minutes from here in either direction. now, this is video which is just 70 miles or so from the nato ally border poland. according to the regional governor the local airport was hit by four bomber fire missiles, killing two people. a military airfield about 150 miles south was also hit. now, north of kyiv those artillery units we showed you last night which had redeployed from the big convoy have now apparently gone into action.

this is satellite image from energy company maxar. as you can see from the flash the satellite appears tuesday have captured the muzzle flash from one of those guns. however, it's unclear what they're firing at. there's also new video as well a fresh reminder how punishing russian tactics have been. it was provided by ukrainian emergency services and comes from dnipro. now, this is the first time in russia's ifivation that they have hit that city, and it's

significant beyond just that fact because this is a city where people from further east had been fleeing to for safety, no longer safe. according to authorities there were three russian air strikes here, one near a preschool, an apartment building killing one. the mayor was led away by armed gunmen, now, the prosecutors office for the separatist russia backed luhansk region now says they're weighing terrorist charges against him. it's a surveillance video. you can barely see him being led away. this is the first known instance of a political official being detained by russia or russian backed forces since the war began. earlier today president biden warned russia against using chemical weapons. >> we're going to send an unmistakable message, we'll

defend every single inch of the nato territory. we will not fight a war against russia in ukraine. direct confrontation between nato and russia is world war 3, something we must strive to prevent. >> we'll talk more about the concerns about a widening conflict shortly with our military experts. we'll also check in with -- who's been living if you've watched this program over the last three weeks or so with her three young children at a shelter in kyiv while her husband serves as defense volunteer. here's some of what she said earl ier today to the question of leaving ukraine. >> the main thing is just the feeling in my heart and in my mind, in my soul, in my body. i have the feeling i'm needed here. i stay here and i do something useful so i'm the most useful here for my country, for my

people. she said why are you asking us to be relocated. it's the russians that need to be relocated from ukraine. it's the russian troops that need to go away, not we ukrainian. they invaded our land, and they need to go back home. >> a mom with her three kids. the conversation with her shortly. a also reports across the region and the atlantic. cnn chief international correspondent clarissa ward is in kyiv tonight. and in washington cnn chief correspondent kaitlan collins. first, i want to give a quick overview of the developments we saw today from orrin leiberman. >> reporter: tonight russia increasing its attacks on the western part of the country, fire and smoke on-airfields near the polish border. it's a scene that played out in cities all across the country as russia unleashed a barrage of attacks in the early morning

hours. in the central city of dnipro, fire poured out of a factory, debris litting the ground. an explosion destroyed a soccer stadium and nearby library. this crater shows the force of the impact. in a city near the border with russia, a strike destroyed a home for the disabled, many whom are elderly. and there's growing evidence that a town in eastern ukraine has fallen to russian forces and their separatist allies. russian troops are seen running through the decimated streets. russia has falsely accused the u.s. of supporting experiments in ukraine with biological and chemical weapons. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy says it's a sign russia itself tends to use such weapons. >> translator: this makes me really worried because we've been repeatedly convinced if you want to know russia's plans, look at what russia accuses others of. >> reporter: president joe biden didn't go as far as drawing a

red line on the use of chemical weapons by russia, but he did issue this threat. >> i'm not going to speak about the intelligence, but russia would pay a severe price if they use chemicals. >> reporter: the russian advance is closing in on kyiv. it is slow progress against a fierce ukrainian resistance that's turned the capital city into a fortress. the pentagon said russian approach the city is about 10 miles outside the city center. >> with that let's go straight to clarissa ward in kyiv. what have you been seeing and hearing there tonight and throughout the day? >> so, anderson, i don't think the microphone will pick up on it because it's just inside the room, but right now we're hearing just a nonstop volly. it's been going on for at least three minutes at this stage. literally nonstop no break of just heavy booms in the distance. i do want to underscore it's impossible for us to know whether those are russian

strikes coming into some of those kyiv suburbs or whether they are ukrainian strikes going out, because as you know ukrainians have been fighting back very hard and really pushing quite effectively the russians for making an entrance into the city center. we were out earlier again in that suburb. we heard a similar sort of story although not quite to this extent, a lot of artillery going back and forth, a lot of black smoke. very few civilians left in that area, although there were some people struggling to get out after more than 12 days pinned down. what ewe heard today, anderson, from the mayor of the brother who basically said ukrainian officials now believe kyiv could be besieged, it could be encircled any day now. and he went onto say if that does happen, it would only be about two weeks before food supplies started to run out.

and as i mentioned last night we talked about how there had been an uptick in fighting around brovery, that eastern suburb. i don't know if you can hear that again. there's a lot of explosions in the background there. but as i was saying russian forces not just any longer occupying the sort of northwest and western side of kyiv and the city center but also squeezing in now from the east. and so the worry becomes, frankly, the prognosis becomes that the intention is to fully surround the city, to starve the city, to bombard the city and then ultimately to try to overthrow zelenskyy's government. but, you know, as we have seen in videos and on the ground, ukrainian forces are everywhere in this city now. they have dug up defensive positions along all the main thoroughfares leading into the

city they've put tank traps around. this is a heavily fortified city now, anderson. and even if russian forces are enable to encircle it, it will still be an all mighty battle for them to get to the heart of it, anderson. >> kaitlan, president biden -- well, actually, kaitlan, before i go back to you, clarissa, let me just ask you. you talk about the russian forces in the northwest and in the east. how capable are they of actually surrounding kyiv at this point? because there are some who would raise questions about whether the russian military would be even capable of actually surrounding kyiv. >> so i think that the prognosis for people who, you know, military analysts who are watching this closely is that it would be feasible for them to surround the city although it's been a lot slower going than they had hoped it would be for a number of reasons. "a," i don't think they'd anticipated the fight they would get from the ukrainians.

"b," they've run into all sorts of resupply issues. we know now from those maxar images that that large convoy has sort of broken apart which might indicate some of those supplies got to where they needed to be. but now the question becomes -- sorry, it's just a continuous round of explosions going on in the background -- can they encircle the city? it looks like they potentially can especially if they're moving in from different directions. can they take the city? that is a very different story particularly because those ukrainian defenses here in the capital are so strong. the question becomes how far are they willing to go? or i should say how low are they willing to steep -- stoop, rather, in terms of indiscriminate bombing, in terms of trying to starve people out. and that will largely determine how effective or plausible it is for them to take the full capital of kyiv, anderson. >> that could be the entire -- that could be the strategy for kyiv, just surround it and just

obliterate it, just continually fire shells into it, drop bombs on it, however they do it, just pound it into submission. >> and squeeze. i mean, they could encircle it and just really start to squeeze. exactly what you're saying with bombardment, but also, anderson, after two weeks food supplies start running low, medicines start running low. we've got a huge amount of people who have been evacuated into this city center. so even though roughly half the propulation of kyiv have left, they've also had a massive influx of people coming in from the suburbs and some of those cities in the north that have been hardest hit. so it could become extremely difficult, challenging and also even more dangerous for the civilians of this city in the days and weeks to come. >> kaitlan, president biden spoke with president zelenskyy today. what have you learned about that call? >> and can i speak to something

about what clarissa is saying there and the concern at the white house when it comes to this plan they believe russia does have to encircle kyiv is getting stuff into kyiv once that happens. because that has already become much more challenging now than it was a month ago for the united states and other nato allies to actually get the equipment they are sending into ukraine to ukraine. before they were flying it directly into the capital. you were seeing these pictures posted on twitter feeds from the pentagon from ukrainian officials of these huge shipments that were going in. now they're having to find very different ways to get it in. and the concern they do have is once they do encircle the city, they are going to have a really tough time getting that in there. not just getting humanitarian assistance in there, but getting the defensive assistance the ukrainians need to try to push back on the russians, and it's helped them slow their advance into ukraine so far. and that's been a concern at the white house. i and i think they realize time is closing here. we've talked about this assistance package capitol hill is working onto get to ukraine,

but of course they've actually got to get it there once it gets passed by lawmakers on capitol hill. and today when president biden was speaking after he did have this 49-minute conversation with president zelenskyy, which is a little bit longer than the typical conversations that the two of them have had since the invasion started, president biden said they're going to make sure ukraine has what it needs to fight back against russia. now, he made clear that is not going to involve u.s. forces on the ground, in the skies over ukraine. but he did say when it comes to equipment, they want to make sure they have what they believe is the most effective. now, there's been disagreement whether or not that involves those used jets that of course poland wanted to get to them to then have the u.s. transfer, but i do think that is going to be the next challenge that the white house is watching very closely. >> yeah, kaitlan collins, thank you. clarissa ward, thank you. be careful with new shelling heard just now in kyiv. their take on what the day and the week add up to in the larger

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concerns about possible encirclement. i think you had raised some questions about the capabilities of russians to actually encircle the city. what do you think is going on now? >> first, anderson, clarissa's report was very good. when she was saying she heard repeated booms having been a tanker all my life, living close to tank range on various ports in the united states and in europe, those were probably tank battles truthfully or tanks against anti-tank weapon systems, which we've repeatedly seen evidence of. she then talked about the siege and i geeked out a little bit on you, anderson, and looked up our doctoral definition of a siege, and it's a military blockade of a city or fortified place to compel forces within to surrender due to persistent or seriousa tacks. now, let's talk a little bit about kyiv itself. there's a 30-mile circcomference

around the city of kyiv. it's a beautiful city with a river right down the middle and a population of 3 million people at the start of the campaign. they probably have 2 million there now. what we have seen is that the russian forces have repeatedly attempted to close on the city, in other words approach the city. but we've now been reporting for three days that they are 10 miles away. that tells me they are either taking an operational pause to get resupplied, which i doubt because the ukrainian forces talking about how they are continually attacking those forces, and those are the booms you hear in the background. i've seen pictures of ukrainian soldiers today, films of them. every single one of them has an anti-tank weapons system strapped across their back. so they are conducting operations against a column that has been somewhat dysfunctional and incompetent in terms of getting the last 10 miles to a city with a supply line that is

nonexistent right now. i think from what i'm seeing they're coming from the northeast, the northwest and potentially the east where the russian forces have not driven that far, so they are not going to be able to encircle that 30-mile perimeter anytime soon. >> general wack, do you think it likely given the fortifications said to be in kyiv and because of the bravery and the hard fight that the ukrainians have been putting up, it's given time for forces inside kyiv to build up defenses. do you think the russians will try to enter the city or just spend some time, i guess in their terms softening it up, just pounding it, destroying buildings, making life as miserable as possible and trying to kill as many people and deprive as many people from air strikes or artillery strikes. >> yeah. anderson, let me try to draw a picture. i'm trying to see the russian

set. yes, they have been -- again, they've begun to unravel, if you will, their column, their long supply line. by the way, those soldiers are frozen if they've been out there in their trucks and vehicles for the last eight days, so they had to disperse just to get to a place and maybe fight for a village to get some warmth. okay, the siege. as i see it the russians are working their tentacles around the city, and it's bloody. it's been bloodier than they thought, but while they've been besieging inward they've also got to now cover their backside to clearly ukrainian like fighting units, even stay behind units even partisans going to be ravaging the backside of the siege as it looks into kyiv. so the russians are actually going to find themselves in an

unenviable position of having to fight both sides. i think this is too big of a mission. if they sit out there for a week or two trying to besiege they're going to be death from a thousand cuts, and it's already happening. and they don't have the forces, it seems, to in a muscular way to mount an offense. and the troops are cold and their motivation is down even if they've been stiffened by national guard units and mercenaries. >> so general hertling, what do they do? >> well, they will do exactly as you say, anderson. they'll continue to attempt to encircle the city. i don't believe they'll be successful in doing that, so they may begin the bombardment with missiles, artillery and rockets. the russians have not been able to fly their air force as much as they would have liked to.

the ukrainian air force is putting up a great fight as well. they are doing a much better job than i anticipated, and i'll summarize, you know, the way i see this. i thought ukraine -- the ukraine army and their territorial forces were going to do very well. they've done much better than i anticipated they would. i thought the russians were going to suck. they suck even more than i anticipated. they are not doing well at all. they just had another commander killed today, a two-star general, the head of the 29th combined armed army. that tells me they're trying to get their leadership to the front and they're exposing themselves to fire. so you've seen not only the repeated killing and destruction and abandonment of equipment and the killing of russian soldiers. i would guess that the casualty rate is much higher than any report has come in and the desertion rates and the capture

rates of the russian army are much higher. and we can tell because mr. putin is trying to get syrian mercenaries to come in, and he's mobilizing some of his guard as replacements. so all of those things point to me this continues to be bad, and it's going to be worse for the russians. the key point is can the ukrainian forces hold out? are the people going to be killed, the civilian population, with continued war crimes by mr. putin and his forces? those are the key factors that will determine the outcome. >> general mark hertling and general peters wack, i appreciate your perspectives. when we return we're going to go back to our clarissa ward. she's in irpin just outside kyiv. she's going to bring aest us some scenes of what happened there, destruction. she tries to help a woman in america try to find her mother ououtside the capital. it's a remarkablble story.

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intense firing going on this moment around the capital of kyiv, some of the suburbs according to our clarissa ward. that's one reason ukrainian officials have having limited success evacuating citizens from the approaching russian forces. kyiv is obviously ukraine's largest city by population, and only about 22,000 people have been sifly evacuated the past three days.

many of tease places suffered repeated shellings and are without power or water. if that didn't make rescue efforts complicated enough clarissa ward encountered a woman who's desperate to find her mother who lives outside kyiv. clarissa has the details of what she found. >> my name is italia, i'm from ukraine but the last five years i lived in the united states. my mother she is still in irpin. >> an impassioned plea sent to us on twitter by a daughter desperately trying to track down her mother. >> my mother doesn't have connections. i didn't hear from her a few days. she is by herself in apartment. please, i beg you, clarissa, you are my last hope. >> reporter: that message brought us back to this spot, the destroyed bridge where brave volunteers continue to ferry out

civilians who have been trapped in irpin for more than ten day. we've been told they may be able to help find natalia's mother. on our way to meet them we hear a familiar accent. he's flown here from san francisco to help in any way he can. less than a week after arriving he is embedded with ukrainian volunteers and now spends his days helping irpin's most vulnerable escape. >> when i saw the invasion i bought a plane ticket and got here as quick as i could. this feels like the biggest fight for freedom i've ever seen in my lifetime. >> reporter: have you ever been in a war zone before? >> not like this. >> reporter: for most americans this would be out of their comfort zone. >> it is out of my comfort zone. you hear the bombs and at the same time there's people a lot closer to it than wrus and they're really the ones in harms

way and we're just doing our part to get them out of here. >> reporter: daria and her team risk their lives every day to do just that. she speeds through deserted streets looking for those who are stranded and needs help. she's agreed to add natalia's mother to the list. so daria, are you not afraid to do this? >> i am afraid, of course. i don't have a child yet and i understand i can help people. >> reporter: they reach the first stop. shelling can be heard in the distance, and they need to move quickly. you can feel how this place is completely deserted. it's like a ghost town. is the owner here, they shout? the team consults their list to check the address.

but no one answers. it's time to move on. in less than two weeks daria has seen the pleasant suburb of kyiv where she lives turned into a war zone. does it make you angry? >> yeah, i'm angry. and i think it's okay. i'm angry to all russian people -- to all the russian people because silence is also violence now. you are with ukraine or with russia. >> reporter: we recognize the next stop. it's the address we've been searching for, but the first glance is troubling. so this is the apartment complex where natalia has told us that her mother lives. i'm just a little bit concerned because i can see there's some damage up there presumably from artillery. team member anton enters one of the buildings. who is waiting for evacuation, he shouts.

but there is no reply. natalia's mother is nowhere to be seen. there is just a handful of people still living here. she and her husband tell us they chop wood in the forest and burn it to stay warm. so she's saying there's no water, no gas, no electricity. they cook their meals out here on an open fire. yet they refuse to leave. where would we go? we don't have anywhere to go, she says. whether they kill us here or there doesn't matter. when will these monsters leave? across the road daria urges another couple to evacuate, but it's another no. they've made it this far and they're willing to see it through. the team has found one man, oleg, who wants to get out.

he buckles into the improvised rescue vehicle. back at the bridge he tell uzas us about his ordeal. it was an awful, frightening situation there, he says. they shell us 224 hours a day. the rest of his family is now in a city held by russian force in the south. i don't know where i live anymore, he says, before bidding us good-bye. it's time to head back. our mission unfulfilled. we haven't found natalia's mother. but as we get closer to the city center our cellphone signal returns. so we just had some great news from natalia. she tells me that a few hours ago her mother was successfully evacuated from irpin by one of

the volunteers. yet another family saved by ordinary citizens doing extraordinary work. >> and clarissa joins again from kyiv. i mean, these people who -- whether it's people who have come from abroad who are here or people who have, you know, just risen up to help, just the selflessness you see in a situation like this is extraordinary. what did you see on your journey to irpin? were you surprised? that -- the fact it's like a ghost town is really just kind of stunning. >> yeah. it's like a ghost town. i think the other surprise, anderson, is that the few areas that you can still move around in, and there are still a lot of risks associated with that, they're not as badly damaged as other parts are of the suburb, but you can't get to those parts

because they're under russian control. so you're sort of driving around, it's incredibly eerily quiet. the streets are basically deserted. you can hear a lot of artillery going back and forth, a lot of fighting particularly just to the north in a place of that area. and i think the most striking thing, though, honestly was spending time with daria who's a lawyer, anton who's a scientist. the other member of the team is a personal fitness trainer, and you're just thinking to yourself how is it possible that 2 1/2 weeks ago you were going into an office every day and working in law, and now you're risking your life every day to go and try to help people where you can? and i really pressed daria on that. like i want to try to understand how you're doing this. and what she told me was her husband had basically joined the military to join the fight, and she was like i couldn't sit at home all day because obviously there's no option to do her regular job anymore.

i couldn't sit at home all day, i knew i had to be out there, and i knew i had to contribute in some way. and the other thing that just stayed with me as you heard in the story, she was like i don't have children yet so this is what i had to do. it's that kind of selflessness, honestly, that you encounter a lot in conflict zones. but here in ukraine it's been staggering to see so many people coming together to defend their country and values, anderson. >> and it's not as if they don't know the risks. they know all too well how tenuous their situation is there. clarissa ward, thank you for that. the white house has voiced support for investigations of war crime of russian strikes in civilian areas. is russia intentionally targeting civilians in ukraine? from a legal standpoint that's what will be looked at. we're going to put these in context from someone who's

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welcome back. there's been continued shelling in and around kyiv. clarissa ward heard a palm bardment of explosions live on our air a short while ago. general mark hertling said he thought it was likely tank fire. throughout ukraine reported

russian attacks have hit a hospital, kindergarten, apartment buildings of family seeking safety. mortars land on an area by a bridge, people evacuating from irpin. the question is do russia's actions in ukraine so far amount to war crimes? the white house said today there are, quote, strong indications russia is committing them but stopped short of declaring them as fact because such a declaration requires legal investigation. christian amanpour helped to expose the atrocity of war, many leaders were later held accountable for war crimes. you and have have talked about the similarities, the echoes of what happened in bos nia and wht is going on here. talk about the trajectory of serbian generals, serbian

leaders ultimately being charged of war crimes. on the ground how long did it take for that designation to come to pass? >> well, it took a few years, anderson, before they were actually indict. and the leaders whether it was a so-called general commander of the bosnian separatist forces and the political leader of this experiment to create zonesthazones that they wanted to keep by killing and removing civilians. so those are classic definitions of war crimes. war crimes is a broad term under which comes crimes against humanity and other such things like up to the highest which is genocide. and then after it took a while to actually find them after the war. they went into hiding, and then they were finally brought in. the serbian strong man who was considered the godfather of this project and who supported the separatists with arms and with political cover, he was found earlier, was taken to the hague.

he actually died in the dark. but nonetheless it was a very, very strong case against him. you do have to prove that this was intentional. you have to prove all the way up the chain of command that these orders were given or the due consideration for civilians was not given. and certainly in those areas that was adjudicated, and these people were convicted of crimes against humanity and genocide and other war crimes. so they were sentenced to life in prison. and in term of what's happening in ukraine, you've heard the united states, europe, many, many countries, many leaders accusing putin and his generals and officers of the same. and actually an investigation is beginning. the icc, the international criminal court, which russia, does not belong to, has actually started an investigation because it was asked by 39 nations to do

that. >> not only just russia doesn't belong to but the united states and i think ukraine doesn't belong to, and they had thought about possibly changing that. does that matter in terms of an investigation? >> well, yes and no because as you say those don't belong to it. however, in the instance of the case of bosnia, they did create a special tribunal for those wars and war crimes. so it's possible that might happen. and there are also ways to, you know, produce and proceed with a forensic investigation and then with the legal ramifications in court. now, the thing is the icc does not have the power to deter -- in other words, it does not have arrest power. so all of these are complicated but similar to the ukraine -- sorry, the yugoslavia tribunal. they did manage to get, for instance, local agents, local police on the ground to do it.

again, it took a long time. but i do think it's important what you mentioned that the u.s. administration has not yet fully accused the russians, and i would assume this is because of the all important matter, which is to figure out how to get president putin to stop. in other words, they still have to figure out a way to get him to stop in a political way because it's unlikely this is going to be solved on the battlefield. >> yeah. and that, obviously, has proved -- at this point there doesn't seem to be what i guess diplomats would call an off-ramp at this stage. there had been some hope that the meeting with the two foreign ministers yesterday would perhaps work out some sort of at least initial ideas about what some sort of a cease-fire would look like, but that didn't happen. >> no. and, you know, we're looking at all this imagery from around ukraine, and all we see is

civilian infrastructure being attacked and civilians being killed. we don't see images to that extent of military infrastructure being attacked, so that's one issue. the other issue is that there have been subtle shifts in positions. in an interview president zelenskyy said quite clearly although he framed it in a very interesting way. he said when asked about nato, well, i've cooled off on that idea. now i know nato doesn't want us in at the moment, i've cooled off. so he publicly put that aside for the moment, and people who are meeting with vladimir putin say that they have detected a slight shift in the maximalest demands. this is just according to people who have been meeting with him. and some say and they look at the fact he's no longer calling for a fully demilitarized ukraine, that he's no longer calling for the removal of the kyiv government but that some

kind of neutrality is what they're after. and very importantly at this -- you know, this is the difficult part is the territorial part of a crimea and the eastern part of ukraine that they already occupy. so, you know, the israeli prime minister has been there. they're trying their best with putin and with zelenskyy to see whether there's a way to -- to negotiate. because this is, in the end, a negotiation. you've heard all along from your military experts that it's going to be really difficult, if not impossible, for the russians to completely take either kyiv or ukraine. it is just unlikely that they're ever going to be able to do that. and the pain that's going to come in the interim is -- is what's going to be the cost of trying to figure out a way to negotiate an end to this. >> yeah.

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ongoing firing around the capital of kyiv tonight heard by our clarissa ward. we want to check in with one we've seen quite a bit, olena gnes, a former journalist who posts videos to her what is ukraine youtube channel, a video diary of her and her family's life there. we've been talking to her. she's currently hiding from the shelling in a basement, not even a bomb shelter really, just a basement in a building with her

three children, the youngest of whom is four months old. she's only occasionally gotten to see her husband who has volunteered to fight. i spoke with olena earlier tonight about the fighting happening near there and how she and her family are doing. olena, how are you and your kids doing today? >> we are doing -- kids are doing fine. a little bit tired. me, i'm doing bad because we are in a bad situation. >> has something changed about the situation? do you -- i understand -- i heard you say that you heard more gunshots and that you feel the russian forces are close. >> i'm not sure what exactly it was, but we went outside and kids were playing at the playground, and all of a sudden, we heard these guns shooting very close to us. and we just went into the bomb shelter. maybe this was someone -- i don't know what was it, but it was very close. and in the day time, we hear a

very loud explosion. maybe that was air defense that worked and keeping something. but at times we hear explosions and we hear the guns. and, like, we are in the northwest of kyiv, in ablynn region, so what you know, we're very close to the position of russians who are coming and position of the ukrainian army who are protecting us. so, we hear a lot of explosions. and -- >> you're in the northwest. you feel if russia invaded, that is the direction they would invade from? >> yeah, obviously. yeah because here we have this many roads. yeah. they are coming from the north side. yeah. and we are here. >> i understand that gerina had a big milestone that she was able to grab her feet and put them in her mouth. >> yes! that was the case.

she's growing. >> that's a big deal. >> yeah. yesterday. my husband said he was able to come back home for a little bit, and we had the whole hour together at home in our apartment. it was so cool. and he was very surprised to see how much bigger and smarter she became in this. and, yeah, we changed. >> i feel like she's bigger in the two weeks that you and i have spoken, i feel like she's grown. we're showing a picture of your husband. was that back -- was that in a shelter, or were you back at the apartment with him? >> that was yesterday we were back into the apartment, yeah. we had one hour together. and finally he had his shower for the first time in two weeks. >> that's the longest you've been able to spend with him, isn't it? >> yes, yes. that was the longest, one hour, yes. that was the second time when i

saw him. >> i saw you posting something that you said to your kids when you were at the apartment, you said, it's time to go home, and you meant go back to the basement, to the shelter. that feels like home now? >> yeah. we feel safer in the basement. we are under the ground. the explosions are not that loud. and under the groud is still safer than on the eighth floor, in our apartment, in the old soviet building. yes, and we already have here many toys and many blankets and some food and more food here than at home, like our apartment. so, yes, it's now like our home. and it's better here because we have created here some comfort. and i realize it's not forever. this shelter is going to be like

this forever, and the adventure is very close and it can change. and this feeling of safety can be illusion. so, the feeling of danger is all the time with us. so, every day, every morning i wake up and i say thank you for another night. now we have another day. and we take one day at a time. and each day can be the last. it's very hard feeling. >> and you are still resolute to stay. >> i stay. i stood resolute to stay. i stay here because this is my home. if you guys afraid to, then i have no option not to be afraid. if i leave, nobody else is going to come and protect my home and protect me. so, it should be me. it should be my husband. it should be my neighbors. we should protect ourselves. we should fight ourselves. i don't want to sacrifice my children. i don't want to sacrifice myself. i don't want to be a martyr or something.