this is don lemon tonight. our breaking news. russian forces broadening attacks on major ukrainian cities. the explosions were heard in the capital tonight. a senior u.s. defense official saying russian troops have not yet encircled kyiv despite nearly three weeks of trying. and a senior defense official saying while russian shelling is faers, almost all russian advances remain stalled. we'll go now to hala gorani in kyiv. hello to you. to lviv, excuse me. i want to put up this video showing an explosion of a residential building in central kyiv. it is unbelievable. you can see a person in the foreground walking in the direction, and then quickly turning around. is the assault on kyiv getting worse? >> reporter: well, it is intensifying in the suburbs.

the russians are inching closer but what is important to note is that ukrainians are able to hold their ground in the center. you are seeing these very dramatic images that you're showing our viewers of buildings, residential buildings in many cases targeted by russian artillery. the goal for the ukrainians now is to keep the center of kyiv, the city itself out of range of russian artillery. so far they've been able to do it. also, kyiv is difficult terrain when it comes to the russian invasion effort. there are rivers, there are bridges. they have managed the ukrainian resistance forces to block some of these very important access points into the ukrainian capital. as far as the battle of kyiv is concerned, as opposed to what is happening in the south, you're seeing a stalled rush effort. it is focused now on the suburbs and it is causing a lot of pain to the civilian populations. in part of the country. >> live for us from lviv.

she will pick up our live coverage in about an hour. thank you so much. appreciate it. now i want to bring in the national security analyst, former director of intelligence. thank you for joining me. let's discuss moscow. it's unclear whether china intends to provide assistance but they say they're open to it, according to cnn's sources. what happens if they do? >> what happens if the chinese provide help? is that -- >> yes. >> assistance. >> first of all, i think this is actually set off a debate in china. a very interesting piece that i read today about a prestigious chinese think tanker that laid out what the real stark choices are for china. i think in the end, they will treat this request, if it was

made, because both parties have denied it. let's assume they did. i think the chinese response will be much like the way they are with north korea. they will provide, they will provide some help, but not everything that the russians want. and i think this whole situation in ukraine has made the chinese very uncomfortable. this is not what they bargained for when they signed up to their grand pact. and i think they're having second thoughts. what i would anticipate is that the chinese may provide nonlethal kinds of assistance. for example, i'm given to understand the chinese asked for food, or that russians asked the chinese for food for the russian soldiers. >> mres. >> the chinese will be very careful about providing any kind of weaponry or equipment that can show up on tv screens in

ukraine. i don't think they want to do that. >> mres. meals ready to eat is what you're talking about. what happens if that, what does that say about the state of russian army if they are asking for mres? >> well, that has to be, and this is obviously a reason the russians, for their part, would deny these requests. this is a huge embarrassment. the performance of the russian army in ukraine has been a huge embarrassment. the vaunted modernization of the russian army. well, not so much. and so just the fact that they have to ask their ally, china, for help this quick. we're not even into this three weeks. and the russians are already appealing to the chinese for help. so that's a very damning commentary as to the efficacy of the russian army. >> they're both denying it,

right? china is denying it, russia is denying that they asked. that's what our sources are saying. >> that probably indicates that the request was actually made. the fact that they're both denying it. it was asked what the downside would be to provide jets to ukraine. watch this. >> one of the down sides is that our intelligence community has assessed and told us that for the united states to provide fighter aircraft, it could be misconstrued by mr. putin as an escalatory measure and could spin the conflict to a higher level it is right now and i think we can all agree, having the united states and russia involved in an escalatory conflict, two nuclear powers, is not good for the world but it's also not good for the people of ukraine. >> first, do you agree with kirby's assessment that putin

would see providing planes directly as an escalatory measure? >> i can understand the case. i'll tell you, don, to me there is a little logic disconnect here. we've already provided thousands of stingers, anti-aircraft weapons, javelins, anti-tank weapons which have resulted in the deaths of thousands of russian soldiers, and the loss of a lot of equipment. i'm hearing estimates of up to 30% of the equipment the russians brought into ukraine is gone, destroyed or captured. so these fighters, and my thinking has changed on this. going from poland to ukraine, i don't find -- and of course, the claim is that they won't be effective. if that is the case, why are we so worried about this being escalatory? i have to sympathize with the position the administration is in here. they're trying to walk a very

tight wire here and not escalate. but i'll tell you. it is, i think, growing onerous to me, at least, where we are reacting to putin's rules of engagement and we're not setting out what the rules of engagement that we think ought to prevail. >> what do you think that is? >> i'm sorry? >> what do you think that is? >> well, i think, you know, it's no -- we are responding to putin's red lines all the time. and hopefully, we're going to assert ourselves and establish some red lines. for example, the use of chemical weapons. i think, you know, the administration made it clear that there will be severe consequences. i am sure, i trust that they're going to live up to that. so again, my thinking has changed a bit on this. if the ukrainians think they need these fighters, then we

should give some consideration to that. now, that said, i have to acknowledge that we haven't seen. fighter activity on the part of the ukrainians, so there's probably a reason form. i think they already have 56, or at least before the combat started, 56 mig-29s. well, they haven't been flying them as best i can tell, a whole lot. so is that because of the threat posed by the russian air defense system? i don't know. i think the general principle here of being -- i understand the reason for conservatism. but i think at some point we are going to have a confrontation with the russians. it is not a question of if. >> it's when. yeah. right on. i agree. you said that from the very beginning. so we shall see. hopefully that won't happen. but yeah. you could be right. thank you, director. we'll see you soon. be well. >> thanks. >> let's discuss now.

joining me, sebastian younger. his latest book is called freedom. good to see you. >> i couldn't hear what he said. >> he is saying that, what he said was, we continue, meaning the u.s. and nato, continues to respond to putin's directive, right? and his red line. and at some point we need to set our own. especially when it comes to chemical weapons. he believes possibly we should be supplying more things than we're supplying. because the equipment we've already given to nato, given to the ukrainians have helped kill russian soldiers already. >> that's pretty high level stuff. i mean, i think it is about nuclear war. the defensive weapons, if putin used them in an offensive way, it would be a gross violation. nobody is crazy enough to do that. i don't know. >> the ukrainians are fighting

really hard for their freedom. we had a couple on. amazing. >> yeah. >> their cities are getting shelled. millions have left the country and people are dying. what will it mean for the western world if they fight valleyianly but democracy is ultimately crushed. >> it will be demoralizing. you have to understand that once, if the russians manage to occupy ukraine, then the hard work for them has really begun. because occupation is very, very difficult and costly. the russian economy is tiny. this 44 million ukrainians. it's very, very difficult to pull off. the english couldn't even keep control of ireland 50 miles off their coast. a really backwards agrarian country at the time. they won the fighting, basically, in 1916, but they could not keep control of the country and eventually gave them their freedom. so i'm not sure they can pull this off in the long term.

>> i want to you listen to something. very disturbing. a warning from the u.n. secretary general. >> raising the alert of russian nuclear forces is a bone chilling development. the prospect of nuclear conflict, once unthinkable is now back within the realm of possibility. >> it is 2022 and there are warnings of nuclear war. are we heading back to a cold war mentality? >> if putin stays in power, possibly. but we've been through this before in the past decades. the cuban missile crisis, for example, and there have been other times. i think the nuclear system is built, designed to absorb these tensions. it has done it before. i also think that putin has an enormous amount of power in russia because he has the backing of the oligarchs, he has the back of the military.

when the people feel like he's threatening the future of russia, i think there may be some constraints on his power. >> you said if putin stays in power. that didn't go past my ears. >> well, who knows? i mean, dictators don't fare that well. >> i want to ask you about renaud. the american journalist killed. president biden sent his could be dole enlss. we are mourning with you. may brent's life, service and sacrifice inspire generations of people all around the world to stand up in fight for the forces of light against forces of darkness. you knew brent. what do you want to say about brent and the message from zelenskyy? >> a beautiful message. there are thousands of reporters out in the world and have been for decades, risking their

lives, sometimes dying to report the truth. and criminals like putin do not like the truth. and that's why the press needs to keep pursuing these stories. i started an organization called reporters instructed in saving colleagues to give free lance war reporters medical intervention to save each other's lives. and brent was the first one about, ten years ago, as was james foley killed by isis. without these people twourgts free lancers, particularly, we would not know what's going on. >> to his family, what do you say? >> i can't imagine. i lost my good friend tim heatherington. it's ten years and i'm still getting over it. i can't imagine as a sonora brother or a friend. it's crushing. >> thank you. appreciate you being here. sorry that you're dealing with that and the family.

especially brent's family. i want you to check this out. ukrainian has a new postage stamp. it is called russian warship, go f yourself. it is a part of the effort to pay tribute to the 13 soldiers on snake island who refused to surrender to russian troops when the war began.

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tonight ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy saying he is grateful to russians who are not afraid to protest those who tell truth about the invasion in ukraine. let's also say he is grateful to the russian channel 1 employee who held an anti-war sign interrupting one of russia's major state television broadcasts. here she is explaining her actions before she ran out on to that set. >> translator: this happening now in ukraine is a crime and russia, the responsibility lies in the conscience of only one person. this man is vladimir putin. my father is ukrainian. my mother is russian and they have never been enemies. this necklace on my neck represent that it should stop.

so our nations will still be able to reconcile. go to the rallies and do not be afraid. they cannot arrest us all. >> so joining me now, the founding partner and washington correspondent. hello to you. that was pretty brave of her to do that. you saw the video, the russian channel 1 employee. an incredible act of bravery. what did you think when you saw that? what did you think? >> i thought basically the same thing you did. which is that, i may not, this is really incredible. this is the flagship of kremlin propaganda. channel 1 is entirely kremlin owned. this was somebody who worked there, who had been silent, whether she had been in disagreement or agreement with the kremlin's politics, or what the lies that have been coming from the television station she

worked for and finally it seems she had had enough. what i thought is she is doing this at great risk to herself. this was not going to end well for her. and she probably knew that and did it anyway. >> well, she was detained. we hear her attorney has not been able to get in touch with his client. that's what he says. >> that's right. we know that she's been charged already for violating that law that was passed just the other week by the russian parliament. which carries a sentence of up to 15 years for basically, the wording is something like, denigrating the actions of the russian military. you know, she must have known that. everybody in russia knows that who is in the news business or in the media business. i won't say she was in the news business. what i thought was remarkable, that in her statement, the part you didn't play is that she said

she was sorry. she felt great regret and shame that she had been working at channel 1 for such a long time. that she allowed lies to come from the television screen and she said she was ashamed that she had helped zombiefy the russian people. >> you're right to point that out. this crackdown, this is so brutal. protesters have been arrested just for holding up blank signs. what is putin so afraid of, julia? >> he doesn't want people to know what his army is actually doing in ukraine. it was one thing to send the russian army to flatten grazn ymp. it was part of russia. it was not really, it was seen by many russians as kind of foreign. it was a muslim republic. the people weren't slavic. so people could kind of get used

to that. when putin sent planes to syria, far away again, a muslim country. we don't really care. but this is ukrainian. this would be like the u.s. doing this to canada. obliterating ottawa and vancouver. there are so many families, who are blended families. one person is ukrainian, one is russian. they have relatives on both sides of the border. friends on both sides of the border. when she says it is a f fratricidal war, she's right. it is killing pregnant women, children, that it is killing old people and purposely bombing and shelling residential buildings. i don't know that they would stay home and suffer all the

economic consequences this war has brought on the russian people through sanctions. on russian tv, places like channel 1, russians are being told there are no civilian casualties. that russian troops are being greeted as liberator and they're being very careful to protect civilians, and this war is not against the ukrainian population. that this war is to liberate the average ukrainian person from the so-called nazis that have seized power in kyiv on behalf of the united states. so when people hear that over and over again, a majority of russians support the war. would they support it if they knew what the russian military was actually doing? i'm not sure that they would. >> haven't they figured out that the president of ukraine is jewish? so none of it makes sense, even from the start. just outlandish. he's saying, the nazi

occupation. bizarre. i have to run. go ahead. i'll give you the last word. >> i was going to say that this is, they've been listening to this trash for 22 years. you know, just in a year, fox news was able to convince 40% of americans donald trump actually won the 2020 election. so it's not that hard to convince people of crazy things if you kind of wall them off and that's all the information they're getting. >> thank you very much. i appreciate you joining us. thanks. nearly 3 million refugees fleeing the war in ukraine with no idea when they can return home or if there will even be a home to return to. that is sparking some fight back. >> you are willing to die for ukraine. we all die, he says. then adds, i'm afraid to die but

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the pentagon warning russia is broadening its targets in russian ukraine after they hit 12 miles from the border with poland. 35 people were killed and at least 130 were hospitalized. so many ukrainians have been fleeing to the west to escape intense shelling in other parts

of the country. and the u.n. estimates nearly 3 million ukrainians have fled the country altogether. hundreds of the refugees are passing through romania. miguel has their story tonight. >> reporter: they arrive by the hundreds. normal ukrainian citizens one day. refugees the next. >> this is stressful, yes. because we have no idea what o do, where to go, and when we can return to our homes. >> from kharkiv, the second biggest which i which has been devastated by rockets. when i was packing my clothes, she says, i thought would it all be over in three days. for many just arriving on romanian soil, it is emotional. one woman cries as someone hands her a bottle of water. >> the people are mobilized and

help the people. >> reporter: romanians stepping up, trying to make the ukrainians feel a little bit at home. dennis closed his restaurant. he now serves meals free to refugees. >> we closed the restaurant and we are coming here to help these people. chicken, pork. chicken, pork. >> reporter: for all those getting out, a few going back in. alexander is returning to mykolaiv. russians have hammered the city. you are willing to die for ukraine. >> we all die, he says. then adds, i'm afraid to die but i'm not a coward. this person from odesa along with her daughter, their dog and two cats. she says they left because of what they heard was happening in

places already controlled by the russians. i've heard about the violence, she says, and the killings for no reason. she added, i had to leave, i was too stressed about it happening to me and may daughter. >> reporter: so the number of people coming across the border has decrease in the recent days. the concern are those refugees internally displaced inside ukraine. they say they are moving toward the border. tens of thousands in some cases, in some areas. as the russians move west, romanian officials and other countries are concerned that there will be another tidal wave of refugees. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. the situation around kyiv getting more dire by the day as russian forces ramp up their assault. one ukrainian parliament member risking his layoff to help his country men and women. he joins me next.

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so the mayor of kyiv touring the destruction in his city from a russian air strike. the city bus was blown apart. joining me now, a member of the ukrainian parliament. good to have you back on. thank you. are you doing okay? >> thank you, don. it is basically woke up before your call because of a massive

explosion nearby. >> i wanted to know what the situation is like in kyiv. i understand a short time ago you heard a large explosion. talk to me about that. >> first, i didn't start my evening with that. a friend of mine was working with american journalists in kyiv has disappeared, and the corn was badly mauled in the air strikes by the russians near kyiv, and the correspondent now is in serious condition in hospital in kyiv. my friend, the operator, the cameraman who i know very well, also disappeared. so we didn't just start with explosions. the explosions basically erupted somewhere nearby in down kyiv. after we finish, i'll go find out what happened. that's the reality of kyiv every day. >> earlier in the day, you were

out around kyiv, witnessing the damage first hand. what did you see out on your patrol today? >> i was not so much on patrol. i was visiting various troops stationed, trying to be useful to them in many ways and bringing supplies to the populations living there. i was in a city that is basically on the pathway from the western border to kyiv. a city that faced battles in the second world war and essentially, every single street that is destroyed, you can see bodies there, you can see people who essentially are battling for their lives. the basements are lacking basic necessities. it is as close to hell on earth as you can imagine. >> you mentioned supplies. are supplies still making their way into the cities? have russians stop anything from getting to you?

>> well, basically the point is that we are keeping those roads open and the area so destroyed still is under our control. the basic point is that we are keeping the supply routes open because we donal allow kyiv to be sieged, all the support that the world is getting. >> the mayor said last week that about one third of the residents have been able to leave. what will happen in kyiv? what will happen in kyiv if kyiv's remaining civilians, if they aren't able to get out? >> the point is that the reality of the indiscriminate shelling that russia is using is unfortunately possible here. most civilians now in kyiv are getting ready, getting prepared, this is the city full of check

points, full of needs to beat back whatever russia throws at us. this is our capital. we are fighting for it until the very end. there is a reason why the president, the government and all of russ still here. >> just hours from now, russia and ukraine will resume, this will be the fourth round of negotiations. do you have any hopes these talks will get russia to stop its invasion? >> all the talks have provided is for humanitarian corridors which russia has ignored anyway and shelled at every chance, killing, mariupol, for example, tens of thousands of people. the point is that as far as the negotiations with russia are concerned, i do not hold trust to anything that they produce. russia basically showed its capability to only lay in the situation. >> the ukrainian president, volodymyr zelenskyy, going to address congress in the u.s. in a virtual meeting on wednesday. what do you expect him to ask

for the united states? >> that which will happen anyway, just in a long time from now to many, many pictures and videos of children killed, civilians killed, cities destroyed. what is basically that about no-fly zone, direct support as an impossibility. we know from reason history, just with all these casualties that will need to happen. america needs not to repeat that very old saying that america does the right thing after it exhausts all other options. we appreciate what we receive but what we face is an onslaught by the biggest country in the world, by the second biggest earl in the world, and we so very much more. >> thank you. we hope you stay safe and we hope to have you back to continue this and we'll see what happens after those discussions. hopefully they will be fruitful.

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mariupol, the world health organization is calling for quote an immediate cease -- cessation, i should say, of all attacks on healthcare in ukraine. they say that 31 attacks on healthcare have been documented, including 24 on healthcare facilities. five on ambulances. those attacks have led to at least 12 deaths, 34 injuries. so joining me now is a spokesperson for the world health organization. so glad to have you on. thank you very much. this is a very important story and thank you for the work that you do. these attacks on ukraine's hospitals and ambulances are heartbreaking. you are there on the ground. how dire is the situation right now with all this destruction on ukraine's healthcare systems? >> thank you very much for having me. some 1,000 health facilities are in the areas where control has changed or in the vicinity of conflict lines. so in these areas that are under

attack, there are increased number of people who are injured who need trauma care. in many areas, it is difficult access to -- to -- to healthcare facilities. either because of insecurity or because of damaged infrastructure. and on top of it, we have these horrible attacks on healthcare that simply must stop. attacks on a healthcare are not only a violation of international humanitarian law. but they are also depriving people of a basic healthcare. now, healthcare facilities have to be protected. people have to feel safe in hospitals, in addition of receiving medical care. just yesterday, we talked to a doctor in kharkiv there seeing people who are wounded with shrapnels, with pieces of glass from explosions. they are seeing children with acute respiratory illnesses because they sleep in cold.

now, the spirit is still high among healthcare workers. they are also volunteers who are trying to help. they are still working around the clock and they are able to treat everyone. but as the time goes on, things may change. we may see -- and we are likely to see shortages in medical supplies. we are likely to see more of this horrible attacks on health and we need to do everything we can to support health system in ukraine so ukrainian health workers who are doing heroic job can continue to save lives. >> are you worried that people -- listen, let me play this. this is audio from doctors without borders describing the situation there. here it is. >> there is no drinking water and any medication for more than one week. maybe even ten days without drinking water and medication. we saw people who died because

of lack of medication. and a lot of such people inside mare yoep and will many people who were killed and injured and they are just lying on the ground. and neighbors just digging hole in the ground and putting their bodies inside. >> are you worried people will die because they don't have access to medical supplies or clean drinking water? >> we are seeing these reports and these are shocking reports from mariupol. for example, where -- where patients are laying on the ground where only electricity that is available is -- is available in operating rooms and other parts of facilities, there is no more electricity. now, we have to ensure that the access to these places. we have here from lviv where i am speaking to you from, we have sent in dispatch medical supplies to eastern parts of ukraine and from there, we try

to send surgical kits, essential medical kits to all these areas that are under attack. now, to some areas we have been able to this material. but to others, we still don't have access and mariupol, unfortunately, is one them. we definitely need access and we call for cessation of hostilities. w.h.o. has publicly called on russian federation to commit to a cease-fire that would -- that would allow unhindered access to -- to -- to -- to humanitarian aid. >> sorry. we hope that you get the -- the help that you need. unfortunately, we are out of time for now. going to continue our live coverage but we will have you back and hope that they are able to get those supplies and let's hope that -- that people don't continue to die in this sadly it will -- it will probably continue. but thank you very much. we appreciate you joining us. thanks so much. and thanks for watching, everyone. our live coverage continues.

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