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this is "don lemon tonight." i'm jim sciutto sitting in for
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don on assignment heading to eastern europe to cover the war. a brutal day, a ruthless day of russian attacks on civilians in ukraine including a theater in the city of mariupol. local officials say it had been used as a bomb shelter by hundreds of city residents, many of whom may still be trapped in the rubble. their fate unknown at this hour. tonight, president zelenskyy says at least 103 children in ukraine have been killed since the start of russian's invasion three weeks ago. zelenskyy addressed the u.s. congress asking for a no fly zone. president biden continuing to deny that request but announcing an $800 million new package of new military aid and calling vladimir putin a war criminal for the first time. i will speak with the former undercover kgb agent ahead and through all the devastation, we should note hope.
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a 15-year-old ukrainian accomplished junior golfer fleeing the violence and arriving safely here in the u.s. to pursue his dream. i'll speak with him later this hour. i do want to go to cnn's fred pleitgen live for us in lviv ukraine tonight. what struck me about the last 24 hours are continued relentless and frankly, increasing expanding attacks on civilians and this new satellite image that shows this and that is of this theater there in mariupol, which was clearly marked intentionally that it had children inside and yet, it was att attacked. >> reporter: absolutely. marked with the word children and to anyone who is hurting civilians and the victims of the
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strike in the theater in mariupol. you're right, this is a day of severe civilian casualties and you have for instance a convey close to the town with a humanitarian convey with a 70-car convey that came under fire and we're hearing five people were wounded including a child and those severely wounded, as well. travel here difficult and especially in the humanitarian convoys are slow and easy targets if you talk about indirect fire and you had a horrific incident that happened in the town which of course is, people say north of kyiv but really also very close to the bella russian border and we've seen fire from russian forces and there people were in a bread line and, you know, of course, that is really the softest of all targets. people out there trying to get aid out in the open with no
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shelter whatsoever. ten people were killed waiting. really horrific images coming out. one other quick update. we heard air raid sirens here in lviv and you went through this. it doesn't necessarily mean there will be strikes here but certainly, a very common occurrence for the folks here like in so many parts of the country, jim. >> no question. there are increasing attacks in the western part of the country where you are. it seems russian attempts to go after supply lines. fred, good to have you there, please keep your head down because sometimes those sirens sadly are real. well, horror tonight in the city of mariupol. russian strikes hit the most vulnerable civilians already struggling without power and water and food running out. cnn's nick paton walsh has the latest what is happening inside
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that bar city. >> reporter: an air strike hits a bomb shelter beneath a theater said local officials. the damage so complete, the entrance was reduced to rubble two days earlier showing the building standing with children written large inside in case you're still thinking, nobody knew who was here. videos had been circulating for d days, it forces those living into a space so tight and dark, it must have felt like a tomb. here he says israel would give out food to children, women and elderly first. this as the converted theater. if this looks like how you imagine the end of the world, for these children, packed in,
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that may have been the case when the bomb struck. russia claimed ukrainian radicals caused the blast. in this room 15 people. little comfort parent can give hoping this will be over soon. below this store, there are yet more an entire city forced underground little aid allowed in and few allowed out. children, his appeal is for food, help, perhaps unaware it may have led russian bombs straight to them. the swimming pool was also hit, a place where this narrator says a pregnant woman was trapped and
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only expect taent mothers and those under 3 were hit. those defenders still exact a cost, still keep them out. this drone video shows the moment ukrainian fighters hit a russian tank. the shots come, again, and again. removing one of the tank's tracks. the crew are fleeing. no room for mercy in a city that has little space left for life itself. nick paton walsh, cnn, odesa ukraine. >> civilians caught in the cross fire. president zelenskyy made an emotional plea for the u.s. to provide further aid to his country today. the package will include javelin and stinger missiles as well as drones and thousands of other anti armor systems. cnn is learning that slovakia has agreed preliminary to give
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ukraine key air defense systems called the s 300 that one is a high altitude area defense, missile defense. let's speak to cnn military analyst and retired air cedric . let talk about the assistance president biden promised today in response to the speech from zelenskyy. can you tell us what is in that package and what the effect will be? >> jim, sure. absolutely. this is a picture of the s 300 on parade the russians like to do. the basic principle here is the tube that contains the rockets right in through this area and it's a launcher. so this is called a transporter launcher and that is designed specifically for the s 300. so the specifics of the particular variety of s 300 that the ukrainians will probably be getting from slovakia is this.
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it's called the s 300 ps and has a missile called the 5 v 55 r, which is important here, it's a really big war head. 293 pounds and a range of 46 miles and can hit an altitude of 82,000 feet. that's important because that gets after the high flying aircraft. so that is one of the weapon systems, jim, that we'd be getting at here. the other one is a much more tactical weapon system and this is called the at 4. it's actually made in sweden and it is designed to provide a very similar to the javelin but it is designed to provide the kind of tactical help that the ukrainians need as they go into these confined areas within urban areas and cities. they can use this to great effect against armored vehicles as long as they're not the most modern armored vehicles then you need a javelin to finish the job. this is definitely a start in the right direction. >> you look at the s 300.
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that's a different category of weapon systems we're used to seeing shoulder fire and anti tank missiles. that one is certainly more significant but i do want to ask because you're aware of this debate about whether the u.s. and nato should enforce a no fly zone, which has great dangers of further conflict but i was told by representative mccall this morning in his view a combination of the air defense systems we're seeing going in could achieve in effect the same goal, that ukraine could in effect impose its own no fly zone with that combination of systems. i wonder if you agree that's possible? >> i actually do. it's -- you know, it's certainly kind of like the idea of a no fly zone but by any other name, right? you're talking about here, jim, is covering the entire air space of ukraine. now the danger for this or at least the weakness of this probably i should call it more a weakness is that this would only
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cover air space if it's done in normal ways but there are a lot of things that happen using standoff weapons. for example, when the russians attacked the facility, training facility near lvi virv near the polish border, they were using aircraft flying out of an area from the black sea right here. those areas are outside of normal ukrainian air space and if the no fly zone or whatever we're calling it does not cover that, then it won't impact those kinds of events and the russians have been doing this quite a bit. they've been using stand off weapons and flying aircraft up to the limits of ukrainian air space and then firing in from there. they do the same thing with their ground based artillery and that's another aspect they have to cover. >> great point. even if the u.s. and nato were to take the step up of a no fly zone, there is a weakness because you have weapons fired from russian territory or beyond they wouldn't have the ability
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to stop without entering russian territory. i want to ask. the u.s. does say the russian advance has been stalled including particularly progress towards the capital kyiv. general mark hurtling said repeatedly that he believes russian forces are reaching or will soon reach their peak effectiveness in ukraine. i wonder if you agree we're reaching something of a turning point. >> well, it's possible, jim. what i've noticed is that the russians are bringing in new and fresh troops. the other thing they're doing from a more tactical perspective is seeing more reports of scouts in and around kyiv in different areas near where the russian lines are and the other thing is that they are also in areas reportedly more to the west. so a little bit further than what the maps actually show us right now. one of the things you learn about modern warfare is often
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the actual presence of troops is a bit different than what the maps tell you and sometimes they are going to have scouting units out a little bit further and the ukrainians are encountering scouts that are a bit further out from these areas so what i'm thinking will happen is that the russians are going to try to move in as many troops as they possibly can although there is a limit to what they can do and they may try to do something with those troops there at least probing the ukrainian defenses and depending on what they find, that will determine then what happens next. >> does russia have the ability with the force to control ukraine in effect? does it have the forces to not just cause trouble, right, but achieve control of the country? >> jim, i don't think so. as far as we know, the numbers are about 190,000 russian troops. there will probably be a few more that will come in from places as far away as the far
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eastern military district in the extreme soviet far east. they will bring troops in from everywhere they can but i don't think they'll be able to muster the strength they need to truly occupy ukraine and no matter what happens with kyiv, they're going to find that they're going to need a lot more troops than the population is definitely not going to cooperate with them. >> and the u.s. estimates conservatively that russia has lost perhaps 10% of its total force today, in three weeks. cedric leighton, always good to have you on. >> thanks, jim. a member of ukraine's parliament that had to send her own children abroad for safety. what she thinks of president zelenskyy's message today. >> the president biden, you are the leader of the nation of your great nation. i wish you to be the leader of the world. being the leader of the world means to be the leader of peace.
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the ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy addressed the u.s. congress today making a di di direct plea to biden for assistance. biden responded with an additional $800 million in security aid for ukraine. joining me a member of ukraine's parliament. thank you for joining us this morning. >> hello. >> i want to ask you first about your own personal situation right now. you're in western ukraine. you had to send your own children abroad for their
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safety, which i saw many families during my time in ukraine have to do the same thing. are they safe now? and how difficult was that decision for you? >> this is the worst decision in my life. this is the kind of experience that i will not wish any parent go through. indeed, may children were in western ukraine but then i had to send them for their safety and many other families sent they are wives and children abroad. nowadays, there are about 3 million ukrainians who we came refugees and who left ukraine european countries. we know most of these people will come back after we win this war and rebuild the country, however, i should let you know that it's still a lot of work we have to do to finish this war,
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to win this war and rebuild the country because russians are attacking our cities with missiles with their military airplanes and other kind of weapon of big caliber. you're talking a lot about mariupol and the situation in mariupol is really hard. according to the deputy mayor, about 18% of residential buildings are not available for the citizens anymore. this is why a number of people are trying to hide in bomb shushut shelters or basements or other places like the theater. but 1,000 people were hiding in the theater, not because they wanted to spend time in theater but because their buildings are bombed and ruined. there are no homes. these people don't have homes anymore. that's why they were forced to hide in the theater. but russian occupants have hit
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even the theater. they hit everything, hospitals, schools, kindergartens, maternity houses, theaters, churches, anyplace civilians are trying to hide from missiles. also coming back to marchiupol, the number of victims in mar mariupol, meaning people killed by the missiles and heavy attacks of russians but also those who died from hunger and dehydration in mariupol in one city, the number of victims up to date is 20,000. listen to this number. 20,000 of civilians and only one city of mariupol. and the situation like that happens in actually dozens of ukrainian cities in north, south and east of ukraine. according to deputy head of
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mariupol, if the city does not stop in the upcoming days and the city is actually like captured by russian troops from all the roads, all the entries from the cities captured by russia and troops and they don't let people in, they don't let food -- they don't let people in or out of the city, they don't let food and water in and out of city, they don't let medication in and out of city, and according to deputy head mayor of mariupol, the number of victims in the upcoming days in mariupol might grow to listen to this number, 350,000. civilians. everyone who did not escape on time and this is the nightmare that we are coming through. this is the situation that we
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bear. >> do you believe that the u.s. and the west is doing enough to help ukraine? >> we're thankful for the a assistance provided by the u.s. and european colleagues and friends but now it's vital to have all this assistance on time. we've been fighting for three weeks already. you can imagine the number of victims even among civilians. you see all this cities that are bombed and ruined and the war is going for three weeks already so you can asses yourself whether the assistance is enough or not. however, i think that what the senate and president biden decided yesterday is a create yeah achievement and it's important
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the air defense and weapon and military support comes to ukraine in days, not in weeks like it was before. >> i know that this is a national cause for you. you are a member of parliament but a personal one the danger you are you're facing. we wish you safety and the best of luck. >> thank you. >> so many stories like that in ukraine today. people facing it with bravery but also understandable fear. we'll continue to bring you those stories. the ukrainian president zelenskyy as we said urged u.s. lawmakers to help close the skies over ukraine, this is russia is increasing its attacks particularly on civilians. is the u.s. providing enough assistance to do that? i'll ask a top u.s. senator, next.
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president zelenskyy called for a no fly zone as russian forces inch closer to kyiv and intensify devastating strikes on civilians. president biden announced an additional 800 million dollars in security aid for ukraine including new weapons. joining me now senator chris van hollen from maryland. senator, thank you for taking
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the time tonight. >> jim, good to be with you. >> senator, you were in the room for what was truly a remarkable address earlier this morning. to watch a standing ovation, a bipartisan standing ovation, communicated the unity in the room. i wonder, though, will there be unity of action after this? did his speech inspire more than that ovation? >> well, jim, it was a powerful moment and i do think that republicans and democrats stand together in solidarity with president zelenskyy and the people of ukraine and the fact that we just appropriated $14 billion in additional aid two days ago and that president biden is providing additional military aid that he announced today is a continuing sign that we will be supporting the ukraine with military equipment at the same time we continue to fly punishing sanctions on
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putin. >> as you know, though, president zelenskyy asked for a formal no fly zone, the u.s., nato has so far refused to do so saying perhaps understandably that that could lead to direct military conflict between the u.s. and russia. what it is sending in and rereported are additional air defense systems including the s 300 which is a soviet air system, high altitude. does that compensate in your view, does that protect the skies over ukraine sufficiently? >> well, i think president biden is making the right call when he says that we're not going to put american boots on the ground or american pilots in the air but i was very pleased to see the stepping up of support on the air defense side. the s 300 system is what needs to be sent in right now because you know ukrainians are familiar with that system. it's a former soviet air system
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but the sophisticated system and will help them shoot down russian jets and missiles the stinger doesn't have the range to hit. >> senator, president biden warned this could be a long and difficult battle for ukraine. you know putin history is when backed into a corner, when his military meets obstacles, his response has been in chechnya and syria to be more, not less ruthless. we're seeing evidence of that including additional attacks in the last 24 hours specifically targeting civilians. are you concerned that as he reaches further obstacles that he becomes more brutal and we see more of these kinds of attacks? >> well, jim, i am. and what we've seen is vicious attacks against civilians. president biden was right to call him a war criminal. what it means is we have to
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continue our resolve. we need to be in this for the long haul with the people of ukraine and what i know and what we can see from listening to president zelenskyy or ordinary ukrainians in the streets is there is no way putin will be able to permanently oppress 44 million ukrainians. he may win victories in the short term. he might not. what i know is in the long term this is a huge strategic mistake for vladimir putin and the people in ukraine are going to make sure that with our help. >> is there a red line that putin may cross and as president biden said earlier this evening, he's already crossed a number of red lines that we've seen deliberate targeting of women and children, civilians but is there a further red line that in your view would necessitate a u.s. nato response directly against russia to stop it?
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because while these weapons have helped ukraine defend itself, they have not been able to prevent these kinds of attacks. is there a point at which you say you know what? we got to stand up to russia directly. >> well, jim, there are lots of things that putin could do that could conceivably change that calculous and i think the white house has warned about the use of chemical and biological weapons, weapons of mass destruction so i think that they sent the right message to vladimir putin that will are some forms of escalation that could draw a different response but for now, i think it important we continue to step up our assistance and you mentioned some of the more sophisticated air defense systems that we're going to be providing. >> we'll watch what effect they have on the ground. thanks so much for joining us tonight. >> good to be with you, jim,
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about russians who dare to sympathize with ukraine or the west. >> translator: they will try to bet on the so-called fifth column on traitors on those who earn their money here but live over there. live not in the geographical sense but in the way they think with the mind set of a slave. these people cannot live without oysters and gender freedom. >> joining us now former undercover kgb agent jack. good to have you. the words from putin today, i found some of them frankly terrifying. he discussed the necessity of a natural self-cleansing of society. he described people who dare to oppose him as flies to be spit out. tell us what that means in your view. echoes of --
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>> you know who he was attacking, though? he wasn't attacking ordinary people. he's attacking some oligarchs, the ones that live mostly in london and, you know, he's ticked off at them because they used to be in his camp and all of a sudden, because of their lifestyle being threatened, they are, you know, sort of leaving him and as one of the oligarchs put a premium on his -- on vladimir's head, that really got him ticked off. remember in the past when he first got to power there was some oligarchs that didn't play with him. he put them in jail. >> yeah. are you worried that putin as his invasion force slows, meets obstacles, loses personnel by the thousands, that he becomes mor
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more, not less ruthless? >> that is indeed his history. i just want to make one comment. we should not willy-nilly draw red lines because it's happened in i me american history we dre red line in sir yria. you lose credibility. we have to be really careful because in escalation of this conflict, there is something that i think about with up horns. >> well, you're right to site the dangers there. as you know, putin has some enemies at home. do you believe that there could be any serious internal opposition? an unsuccessful coup in 1991, does putin face such a risk at
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home today? >> yes, but not from his inner circle. he has his old buddies that from the kgb, you know, i don't know how many but maybe 40, 50. their destiny is attached to his. so they're not going to move. however, there are other power players particularly the army, the military and perhaps somebody in the intelligence services who are not as beholded to vladimir and, you know, one would think that there are some generals who are just like just, you know, raw military people who eventually will not do what hi he wants them to do in terms of committing more atrocities. that's a danger to vladimir putin, for sure. >> particularly as the generals in ukraine are seeing them lose many of their own men. jack, good to have you on tonight. >> indeed, indeed.
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thank you. >> thanks so much. a 15-year-old ukrainian golfer desperately fled kyiv amid russian bombardment. he says the day the war started was the worst of his life. we'll have his story next.
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bloody assault on icrane. 15-year-old junior golfer from kyiv was able to flee the violence in his city. he is now safely in the united states in florida to continue to pursue his dreams. i am joined now by micha. thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> first of all, you -- you escaped kyiv after the bombardment, the invasion started. you called that the worst morning of your life. tell us how you got out. >> well, i spent -- i spent one and a half weeks in the bombardment because we thought it was safe staying there while the explosions were not quite close to our house. but the moment we knew that it wasn't, the moment we knew that the bombardment was in our town, we knew we had to leave and get me out and -- and then, my parents would come back to get their parents out. >> you had to leave a lot of your family behind. i -- i know that's got to be
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just brutal for you. tell us -- tell us how that's going, and how they are, how they are there right now. >> it's very devastating but thankfully they -- they all have wi-fi and a source of internet, food, water, and i can still talk to them. and make sure they're safe. and i know that once everything is over, i'll definitely bring them here to be -- to be where with me. >> are you relieved to be -- to be in the states now and safe from the russian' invasion? >> i am very thankful for everyone that contributed to -- to me being here. and it's -- it's great that i can -- i can continue to pursue my goals academically and athletically. but at the same time, it's -- again, it's very, very nerve-racking having my whole family back in ukraine. >> of course, i know it must be. i feel for you, man. who is taking care of -- who is taking care of you there while you're in florida? >> i'm -- well, it's a guardian.
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she's the assistant of -- coaching me after my injury with golf digest and really helped me a lot with -- with everything here. accommodation, finance, everything i would need. >> so, tell us what your dreams are now that you're in the u.s. >> uh, i will -- i will go to college. i will finish school here in the u.s. i will go to college. and after college, will have to make a decision what to do. but as for now, my primary goal is to go to college. >> now, do you believe that the rest of your family is going to be able to get out of -- out of kyiv, out of ukraine soon? >> yes, i -- i do believe that my -- my mother and my grandparents will be able to leave. my dad will only be allowed to leave ukraine once the martial law ends and, otherwise, he will have stay in there and --
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>> yeah, that's one thing folks at home may not know in the u.s. but men of military age need to stay behind and i saw a lot of families while i was there, women and children would leave but the men had to be left behind. while you're here on cnn, i wonder what do you want people to know about what's happening to your home right now, to your country? >> something that's happening in ukraine right now should not be happening in the middle of europe in the 21st century. kids are losing their homes, they are dying, they are losing the lives. and it's -- it's devastating and people should know the truth because there is a lot of fake news going around. but in reality, what's happening is we're -- the whole country's being destroyed. it's not demilitarization or denationalization. it's actually being destroyed right now by putin and it has to be stopped because if he is not stopped, he will go on to europe and then -- and then america. we don't know where he is going to stop. so -- so we need every -- every
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source of help we can get from -- from western europe or -- or america. and to stop him. >> president zelenskyy, as you know, addressed the u.s. congress today. what does his leadership mean to you, as a ukrainian? >> he's a hero. he's a national hero right now with everything that he does. and after he didn't take the offer to leave the country, and he is still in kyiv fighting the war, he has become a real hero for every ukrainian and we are proud to be ukrainians. >> you are handling what you are going through so well. i'm sure folks watching right now agree with me when i say that. i wish you the best of luck and i really do wish your family safety. >> thank you. >> one more ukrainian life affected by this war. millions of them. thanks so much for watching tonight. our live coverage continues.
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this is cnn breaking news. hello to our viewers around the world and in the united states this hour, i'm hala gorani coming to you live from lviv in ukraine. well, as you can see behind me, the sun is rising this hour to reveal yet another day of devastation. entire cities in ruins across the country. neighborhoods, destroyed, and perhaps most shocking, civilians targeted and killed by russian air strikes and shelling. authorities in mariupol, along the southern coast, say the russians bombed a theater where hundreds of pe

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