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feel safe taken in by katya's family. >> there's some bonding. this bond of helping people. it's just normal. it should be because if you do a good thing, it will be back to you in one way or another. >> haddas gold. >> "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "out front" next, rising civilian death toll in ukraine. tonight among the dead, american gunned down by russian snipers while he waited in a bread line. plus we'll go inside vladimir putin's front line. like the god father, she says. and the most innocent victims. we're going to take you to a hospital stretched to the limits caring for the very, very youngest ukrainians. let's go "out front."
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and good evening. i'm erin burnett. "out front" tonight, breaking news. intensifying indiscriminate attacks by russia and ukraine. this is according to the mayor of the northern ukrainian city. police say more civivilians were killed by russian artillery fire today. officials tonight say more than 50 people were brought to the city morgue wednesday. among the dead, an american, james whitney hill. he lived in ukraine with his partner who was suffering from ms. hill's sister, whom i will speak with in a moment, said her brother stayed in ukraine because he refused to leave his sick partner's bedside. he has seen some of the worst devastation. this new satellite image shows multiple fires burning in the city. you can see that. just -- i mean, look at that. it's leveled. the extent of the damage in other -- there and other cities of ukraine just now becoming clear. i'm going to show you in the
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south in the donetsk region, look at those homes and buildings before the invasion. see that? that's before. let me show you after. yeah. gone. we have the chief of police for the donetsk region and tonight he told us, he gave us this report for you on what he is seeing there on the ground. here he is. >> translator: we have documented a large number of war crimes by the russian army. the artillery shelling of civilian areas is occurring everywhere across the donetsk region. >> tonight another member of the biden administration calling the killing war crimes after president biden called putin a war criminal yesterday. today secretary of state antony blinken said this. >> personally, i agree. intentionally targeting civilians is a war crime. after all the destruction of the past three weeks, i find it difficult to conclude that the russians are doing otherwise. >> tonight ukrainian president
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volodymyr zelenskyy implicating the holocaust for germany's parliament. >> translator: every year politicians say never again. now i see that these words are worthless. in europe a people is being destroyed. >> fred pleitgen is "out front" in ukraine tonight in lviv. fred, civilians are continuing to suffer so terribly under the russian assault. i know you spoke with the mayor of chernivev today. what else did you learn? >> reporter: erin, it's here and so many other regions in this country as well, if you look at march poll, kharkiv, kyiv, so much is being taken under fire. the mayor said, look, these areas that are getting hit,
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they're not military areas. they're civilian areas. it's not only buildings, it's infrastructure that they need that are simply being ground down. it's something that's continuing and getting worse as times go on. here's what we're learning. as vladimir putin's military rains bombs, rockets, artillery, civilians are paying the highest price. scores killed and maimed. in chernev, an entire family killed. dozens more civivilians lost their lives in attacks. the ukrainian government confirming that u.s. citizen james whitney hill was among those killed. >> translator: the intensity of the shelling has increased. it's been indiscriminate, apparently random. we're not talking about certain
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military infrastructure buildings being bombed. in reality, houses are being destroyed, schools and karns are being described. >> this shows the gruesome attack of people waiting in a bread line in the same town. witnesses say at least ten civilians were killed. russia's military cynically claiming it wasn't them. >> translator: all units of the russian forces are outside chernihev. >> reporter: other sfis are getting shelled as well. several killed and wounded, mostly women and children, when a maternity ward and children's hospital were hit last week. then the main theater where the u.s. believes hundreds of people had taken shelter was bombed. a small miracle, the bomb shelter under the building held up helping some of those inside survive. though it's still unclear how many. authorities say efforts to pull
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people from the rubble are being hindered by the total breakdown of public services and the threat of further russian attacks. aerial images show the building was clearly marked as having children inside leaving ukraine's defense minister irate. >> you can see from the maps, from the drawings that are around us there are big letters of children were written so the pilot of the planes could see and still in spite of that it has bombed the theater. >> the russians claim they only target military installations sending out this video of them allegedly destroying ukrainian how witsers, but the u.k.'s defense min anything stri said they are increasingly hitting cities with heavy, less accurate weapons because they're simply running out of precise munitions as the war drags on. experts believe it will only get worse. >> they're very intentionally targeting water stations and
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power supplies and internet towers and cell phone towers and that sort of thing. and a very deliberate attempt to make it much more difficult to get them to hold out. the u.s. and its allies say russia's offensive in ukraine has stalled. recent territorial gains have been minimal. >> reporter: erin, experts call this a play out of the syrian playbook. they tried to bomb the people into submission. so far for russia, it doesn't seem to be working. there's a lot of death, a lot of destruction and very little in the way. as i mentioned, an american, james hill, this assault fred is reporting on. camila burnoff has more.
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>> reporter: bombing has intensified. no way out. that was the last quote from american james hill before confirmation of his death. his facebook detailing a chilling account of his last days in ukraine. intense bombing. still alive. limited food. room very cold. according to his family, hill was waiting in a bread line with several other people when they were gunned down by russian military snipers. his body was found in the street by the local police. he wasn't sure if -- he wrote on monday, very cold inside. food portions are reduced. bombing and explosions most of the night. hard to sleep. people getting depressed. in his post he describes feeling helpless, hungry and cold. while narrating a war.
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intense bombing last night for two hours. it was close to the hospital. machine gunfire could be heard. it stopped just after midnight. hill even encouraging political action posting this on march 7th. for my american friends and relatives, please pressure your local representatives to expedite american visas for ukrainians, especially for families with children and skilled workers. erin, while he wanted to help others, wanted to get out, it was too late. his friends are now describing jimmy as someone who was wonderful, who really liked the outdoors, liked fly fishing. he kept in touch with some of these friends via facebook. some were saying they were able to essentially say good-bye. now that facebook is filled with
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condolences, people honoring, remembering a father, a brother, just a brave man. >> thank you very much. "out front" now is james's sister katya hill. thank you. i'm so sorry. let me start by saying how sorry i am for your loss. it's horrible and unexpected and unwarranted as it is. in those last facebook posts from your brother he said it was cold and food was limited and obviously he had gone out, it appears, to try to get food to be in that line. what do you know about what happened to your brother? >> well, we don't have confirmation from the embassies specific to his death. i do know things were
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deteriorating in the city. he was bringing back what he could find. he was sharing with me on mess sen ger was how patient the ukrainian people were waiting in line of maybe 100 people and just taking what they need and leaving foods and other smies in the store for the rest in the line. at one point a missile went by him and landed at a distance that did not hurt the people in line. my brother was the helper people find in crisis. he found some cookies and he brought cookies back to the nurses that were helping and couldn't get out to the store. he had a stash of chocolate that he was keeping so he could hand
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out chocolate when someone needed encouragement. >> you know his partner. she was in intensive care. he stayed in ukraine because he wanted to take care of her. moving for her was not possible. was it a hard decision for him? >> well, in a sense, no, because he was not going to leave iris by in her condition and jim was in ukraine this time because he had gotten medicine from the united states and found a doctor in china that would treat her so he arranged an ambulance to transport ira and her mother along with him to the hospital
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so she could get the treatment the monday before the bombing started. when she was admitted to the hospital the doctor thought she had a mild case of pneumonia. let's treat the pneumonia first and let's start the ms treatments and of course in two days the invasion started but he was not going to leave. >> he wanted to take care of her. have you been able to connect with her? >> no. >> no, not at all. >> i don't speak ukrainian. ira's mother had two phone numbers so we had a group that helped with iris' care and respite for her mother. we're trying to reach her, but the last time that i spoke with my brother the electricity was out, there was no heat. ira was transported to the --
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well, taken to the icu a few days ago because it had been so cold in the hospital for so many days. but the phones, my brother said he was reserving battery on his phone because you couldn't charge them. i can only assume that ira's mother's phone is unable to be charged at this point. >> you tell these stories about your brother and that he would just take enough food that was needed and take some to share with the nurses and help with others. we see that on facebook pages where friends are posting you will never be forgotten, a true humanitarian capturing that part one saying he was a wonderful man with a big heart. so clearly this is who he was. katya, it's going to be so hard. do you have any sense as to where he is? are you going to be able to bury
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him? are you going to be able to handle the good-bye at all or no? >> well, actually, that's one thing that we're still trying to reach out to senator klobuchar and i'm in pittsburgh so senator kasey's office. we don't know where my brother's body is so that kind of closure the family won't have right now. so any help that somebody can let us know on that would be greatly appreciated. >> i hope someone helps. >> prayer services, my son is an orthodox priest, so he will do what's called a ponahita or a prayer service for my brother at his parish in new jersey and my
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parish here will do a prayer service, but finalizing, that will probably be our hardest -- how can i say? the hardest thing that we're going to have to go through is not having closure. >> i am truly so very sorry for your loss of your beloved brother. >> thank you. >> i hope that -- >> he was my only brother and i remember growing up and he pestered me a lot and my mother would say, now, i didn't see him do it so it doesn't count but i would go back for those moments any time. >> may those memories be the blessing that you have as you move forward in life without him. katya, i'm so sorry and thank you. >> thank you, erin. >> next, arnold schwarzenegger has a message for those russian
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thousands of russian troops have been killed in ukraine, this is according to the latest analysis who report sagging morale among russian troops. the nsa saying that the death toll was much higher than anything that has been reported. it comes as secretary of state antony blinken issued a warning that russia could escalate a war in ukraine in a devastating way. >> we believe that moscow may be setting the stage to use a chemical weapon and then falsely blame ukraine to justify escalating the attacks on ukrainian people. >> "out front" now retired mark kimmet and rob lee, senior fellow and expert on the russian military who tracks what they are doing on the ground. in light of the detail of the sagging morale because the
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losses are higher and they're struggling to replace them, you have been tracking day in and day out losses with the russian troops. what stands out to you now? >> it's hard to know exactly how much they've lost. it's going to be very inexact right now. we know after the first week of the war russia lost more soldiers than it did in georgia and in 2014 and 2015. all of that combined. it's a significant loss and in particular we're seeing heavy losses. the airborne forces, other kind of elite formations. >> because these are the elite units. these are highly trained people and hard to replace. it comes in the context of antony blinken saying this could be an escalation. it is where the conversation then occurs and to that point
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putin's closest ally made a nuclear threat while doing an interview with a japanese television station which is highly irrelevant. let me play it. >> translator: russia will not lose in this war. you are 100% convinced of this. how this ends japan knows better than i do. >> to a japanese television station, threat of hiroshima and nagasaki. do you take this seriously? >> anyone who doesn't take is seriously should look at what we've seen in the past couple of weeks. every assumption about what putin wouldn't do, he's done. personally i think he will ramp up at the regular level. yes, he's lost a lot of troops.
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they used to lose 12,000 in a day during world war ii. i think what he's going to do is replace those soldiers with more soldiers and double down on the artillery and rocket strikes to keep it going. >> on that, human rights watch said russian forces attacked with cluster munition attacks. those are widely condemned. you've been tracking what weapons the russians are using where and what are being destroyed. what are you seeing? >> sure. earlier we saw evidence of cluster munitions being used in kharkiv. it can dispense cluster em emis emissions. it's what we've seen before. the issue that if russia wants
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to get odesa, they want that city otherwise it makes it difficult. it's a strategic problem and it's limiting their advance. >> so general kimmet, arnold schwarzenegger put out a video. it was very well done. it talked about how his father was broken both physically and mentally. he talks about how angry his father was when arnold heroized a russian weight lifter. he wants to break through the truth about the war and putin. here's part of it when he addressed the russian soldiers we're talking about in this conversation. here he is. >> i don't want you to be programming like my father. this is not the war to defend russia. the ukraine fathers or your great grandfathers fought. this is an illegal war.
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your lives, your limbs, your futures are being sacrificed for a senseless war being condemned by the entire world. >> general, will something like that break through to any of its intended audience? >> if it gets through is the first question. we used to talk about the great chinese fire wall, but if you take a look at what's happening in russia, we're starting to see the great russian firewall. if that can get through the firewall and talking to troops, i think it would have an effect. as important, it might have an effect on public reaction to what's happening. >> general, thank you very much for your expertise and thoughts tonight. "out front" next, the ex of an oligarch who was called putin's banker. now she's speaking out about
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ukraine's ambassador to the united nations calling out his russian counterpart. here it is. >> do the eyes of ukrainian children, women and elderly killed by the russians flash before you? if they do, you may consider how to sponsor a decision to help you deal with perpetration inducted traumatic stress. >> when the camera cut away from him to the bald man, he did not respond. this as we get an inside look at the oligarchs who have emboldened and empowered putin
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for the past two decades. joe griffin is out front. >> reporter: on the shore of the black sea it can only be described as a pail lace. 190,000 square feet. from the air you can see the church, tea house and amphitheater and reportedly an underground hockey rink. this according to an investigation last year by the jailed russian opposition leader alexey navalny's group. they claim this gilded luxurious palace fit for a king was built for vladimir putin. >> this palace is very much a symbol and he no longer sees himself as a government employee, as an elected figure, he sees himself as a czar, as king of some sort and he deserves a pal race. >> reporter: cnn can't independently verify this and
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putin's spokesman denies he owns it or any other palace. maria pevchik says they have proof but their sources and documents all point to the palace as an example how the oligarchs corruptly influence the president. >> by russian state-owned companies, money from russian people, regular people is stolen and diverted into building this horrendous thing on the black sea. >> reporter: according to the investigation and a whistle-blower who came forward, the money for the palace came from a russian charity fund. >> there are these rumors about putin being the richest man in the world and he may be. it's very, very hard to try to
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unde understand what his wealth is and where it's held. >> rumored to be worth $100 billion. he claims a few cars valued at $140,000 but his official income is irrelevant. russia watchers say putin controls russia by determining who gets money, who doesn't, who gets to run business, who skims profit and how the wealth is passed. he doesn't need any assets listed in his name. it's all his when he asks. >> he's close to something like the god father but ultimately they owe everything they have to the boss and with the click of a finger as he has shown in the past, putin can take everything from an oligarch. however rich and however influential they are. >> exiled russian oligarch who was convicted of tax evasion and
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fraud spent ten years in a russian prison he said for not playing putin's game. he claims putin is paranoid, dangerous and must be stopped. >> translator: all of the accounts of all of the oligarchs who function as putin's wallet must be stopped. they must all feel the pain right now and it must continue until the war ends. >> reporter: newly imposed sanctions from the west have made it hard for many of the russian billionaires to do business outside the country. chipping away on putin's brutal hold will take time. putin's strategy is far beyond personal riches. >> he wants to rebuild russia as a great power. you almost have to go back to the czarist days to understand that. >> reporter: just look at the gates of putin's purported
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palace. the two headed crowned eagle that is atop the pail lace that belonged to russia's last czar. >> erin, the fact is financially getting to putin may be impossible. even getting to his oligarchs tremendously difficult. they've hid their assets safely in western countries including the united states. one expert saying there is no paper trail. >> incredible. thank you very much. after that fantastic report giving all of those details, i want to go to countess alexander tolstoy. they share three children together. i really appreciate your time and your being willing to speak to me. i know these are really trying times. you just heard drew and he said there's literally no paper
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trail. i know you lived in this world for eight years after you met sergei. what was it like? >> well, it was sort of like everyone imagined, like the god father. this crazy, insane world and complete lack of normal human morals, no empathy. there's a huge -- like any dictator. we all hate each other, very competitive, they don't trust each other. it's ruthless. >> so your relationship with sergei is the focus of a bbc documentary. it's called the countess and the russian billionaire. it lays out how close sergei was to putin as putin rose in power. here's a clip from the netflix documentary. >> it was a meteoric ascent and
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sergei was someone who helped push putin up the stairs. >> translator: you were my friend. went everywhere for a long time and we were very, very close. all the time. putin was really relaxed and was ready to do whatever we want. >> sergei cemented his power by becoming in the upper parliament. he became one of putin's trusted advisers. >> so you've talked about being in the room with putin. you've been there. what was it like? and what was putin like in those times? >> so i was in the room with him in 2008 and he then was a very different person from what i see now in the news. he was a very confident person. he had his great, enormous balance of body guards.
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he was -- you could see he was secure, but he was very confident. now he's angry and out of control. there's a difference. >> there has been a lot of talk about whether he's changed. people are saying this on the outside, people are saying is it covid isolation, some sort of illness? like yi said, you know him. sergei used to talk about putin. what do you see in terms of changes, whether physical or otherwise now? >>. >> i would say there's not such a huge change. i think he has a personality disorder. narcissistic personality disorder. it's all about control. he feels more and more -- you constantly hear the west have humiliated us, the west have
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disrespected us, he takes it personally. it's more about himself, the recognition that he's feeling. >> pretty incredible. thank you very much. i appreciate your sharing your thoughts. i know it's not easy to come out and talk about this. thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. next, a 10-week baby girl anna left at the hospital with only a note. her mother making the choice, a decision that it was better to leave her behind with her heart condition to get her other children out to safety. heartbreaking story is next. a castle the center for ukrainians who escaped the war. broooo!!!! broooo!!!! broooo!!!! [in unison] brooooooooooo!!!! [splash] [disappointed] broooo... good thing you saved on the trip! priceline. every trip is a big g deal.
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tonight more than 320,000 citizens returning to ukraine to help fight against russia as putin's war continues to destroy homes and displace families. that number is a testament to the patriotism and fortitude of ukrainians but it comes as many of the most vulnerable in the country, including children, can't leave.
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"out front" now unicef spokesman joe english spent the last couple of days at a hospital in lviv. i appreciate your time. i know you've been at the hospital. i spent time with a 15-year-old boy named andre. you're showing him here. he got that terrible injury in a land mine accident. tell me about him and how he's doing. >> yeah. thanks so much, erin. i mean, as you say, i've spent the last couple of days at the hospital there and today spent time with andre, 15 years old. we walked into the room and he's a normal teenage boy. he was there, one of his friends were there. they were showing each other pictures on the phone. he was laid up, in a lot of pain. his story is just heartbreaking. he lives in a town in the north of ukraine and the fighting came pretty close and they decided that they needed to move out --
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further into cover and they had been there for a few days and then they went out one day in the car, it was andre and his mother and his cousin and they hit a land mine and andre's mother passed away at the scene in front of andre. he managed to pull himself to safety. he screamed for help until he couldn't scream any longer. luckily he was found by some neighbors and they managed to get him to safety. >> i want you to also tell us all about anna. i know she's only 10 weeks old. she's there in the hospital. tiny little child. congenital heart disease. her mother made the decision to leave anna at a hospital. she left her there hoping that
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someone would help. of course, they have. she's as safe as she can be but alone without her mother. what happens to anna now? >> this shows the impact on the children. andre had his mother taken from him through the dire impacts and anna, a trauma, a huge burden it's putting on parents. so anna now, as you say, is being cared for by the staff at the hospital. a dedicated local woman who said she will provide her with all the care that she needs but these hospital staff, they're running on fumes and unicef is there and we're able to provide supplies to the hospitals, we're able to get stuff in in lviv and in kharkiv we're delivering toys
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to the children who are living effectively in the metro system because it's not safe to be above ground. >> joe, thank you very much for sharing those stories with us. thank you. >> thank you, erin. and i just want to say, that conversation, just so you know, they don't know where the mother is or who the mother is. they're desperately trying to find that out. she didn't leave that information. they are hoping they can find who it is and reunite her with her baby. "out front" next, they wanted peace and prosperity. they did not count on being refugees. brittney griner is going to be staying there a lot longer. where is she?
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the u.s. miguel marquez is "out front." >> who are all these people? >> translator: friends, fellow citizens and colleagues, she says, family, too. all from donbas in eastern ukraine. refugees after the war there in 2014, refugees again. >> translator: some people cross the border on foot, she says, two borders. not everyone is lucky as 86-year-old who had arrived. she survived world war ii, now she's in an apartment in central romania with her daughter and lots of friends and a cat named moosha. >> my childhood was spent during the war, she says. now in my old age there is war again and for what? in the name of all people, god, please stop the war.
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the medieval city of rashov, not far from dracula's castle, is preparing 1,000 beds for ukrainian refugees. the beds in a hotel, historic center, business development center and brand-new apartment building in the new part of town. >> the main challenge is how to scale it up. this is only the first group of refugees. >> reporter: how do you feel being here? >> better than perfect. they gave us medicine, beds, fed us and then added it's very, very, very good. the city preparing for even more refugees who the mayor believes will need even more support and possibly stay for a long time. >> if you're a mother with a child, you can come here, we can offer you a job. we can offer and we are discussing about solutions for day care for children.
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how to integrate them into the educational system. >> reporter: the city planning the future but meeting basic needs too. meeting with local restaurants providing thousands of meals. today on st. patrick's day prepared by dean's irish pub. luck of the irish. >> it's more than providing meals, we're providing hope to them. they do need that. you can see it on their faces and i think that's really important. tatiana, mother and daughter got here only three days ago. if not for the help here, she says, i don't think our nerves could have taken it. there were air raids day and night. we couldn't eat. we couldn't sleep. in mykolaiv, she says, planes were flying right over our heads. flying, flying, flying. i can't find words to explain. it's very scary. she has a simple wish.
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in my old age i only wanted peace and prosperity, she says, then added i like everything to be okay, but for now it's not. >> cities like rashov are preparing for many more refugees in the weeks to come and now starting to integrate them into the economies for months if not years to come. >> thank you very much. next, an american basketball star detained in russia, now going to be there a lot longer.. t what's best t for our skin. with 1/4 moisturizing cream, dove is the #1 bar dermatologists use at t home. i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer ♪ ♪ to bare my sk ♪ ♪ yeah, that's alme ♪ ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand ♪ ♪ nothing on my skin, that's my new plan ♪
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russian authorities say she had cannabis oil in her luggage. she has been denied access to her legal team. nobody knows exactly where she is. no one's been in contact with her. this continues for months on end. thanks so much for joining us. ac 360 starts now. it is hard to say good evening from ukraine even on the best of nights, and harder still given what we have seen cities and towns across ukraine today. we're going to get in the two hours ahead to all of the latest developments in kyiv, kharkiv, mariupol. we're going to talk with our reporters, our analysts, those living through this horror, but before all of that. we don't know his name or the name of his mom whom
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