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cannabis oil in her luggage. she has been denied access to her legal team. nobody knows exactly where she is. no one's been in contact with her. this continues for months on end. thanks so much for joining us. ac 360 starts now. it is hard to say good evening from ukraine even on the best of nights, and harder still given what we have seen cities and towns across ukraine today. we're going to get in the two hours ahead to all of the latest developments in kyiv, kharkiv, mariupol. we're going to talk with our reporters, our analysts, those living through this horror, but before all of that. we don't know his name or the name of his mom whom he's
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kneeling over in kyiv. it's so the video that we saw earlier today and feel that you should see as well. we're showing it not to shock or tug at heart strings, only so you can know unsan know tiesed more than any european conflict is talking about, invaders unable to achieve their -- it's the murder of one multiplied by the dozens, hundreds, thousands. one child buried in rubble, one missing father, one family tried to flee. today a fallen son and a weeping mother .
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>> that is what happened today in kyiv to that man and to his mother and it happened in other cities across ukraine as well. to women and children, grandparents, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters. the united nations is out with a new estimate of civilian casualties, 726 killed. that, of course, is probably extremely low. as always, the u.n. official giving that estimate says the actual number is likely much higher. she said that hundreds of residential buildings across the country have been damaged or destroyed. also schools, she said, such as this kindergarten in kharkiv. in total the u.n. estimates that
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at least 52 children have died since the war began but again that number is also almost certainly sick generally low. as for hospitals and other health care facilities, a new assessment shows that upwards of 43 have been hit, 43. as many as 35,000 psychiatric patients are facing severe shortages of medicine, food, everything needed for basic survival according to the world health organization. there is so much of it we simply cannot see, do not have access to or will only learn about long, long after this terrible fact. for now one video of one grieving son we think carries more of the burden speaking for the larger tragedy than it really should. another casualty of a war. we can only hope tonight that a son can find at least a little solace now and in the days ahead. for more on what those days might hold, cnn's sam kiley reports from kyiv, kaitlyn collins is at the white house which has tough diplomacy coming
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up and cnn's ed lavandera is close to poland where almost 2 million refugees have arrived safely. first a look at the headlines of the day from cnn's kristin fischer. >> reporter: the ukrainian resistance is not letting up, but neither is the russian offensive. this residential building was hit by the debris of a downed missile. ukraine's emergency service says at least one person was killed. incredibly in the besieged city of mariupol, signs of survivors. one day earlier an airstrike hit a theater where they were hiding despite the word children written outside. survivors who had been sheltering shows the cramping conditions aside as the city has
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been cut off from water, power, and heat. >> despite that, they accuse ukrainian militants of killing their own people. in the southern city of mykolaiv, bodies have been piling up. they're accusing russia of using cluster munitions to kill many civilians. it's banned. secretary of state antony blinken is now accusing russia of car crimes. >> intentionally target ing andi find it difficult to conclude. >> ukrainian president volodymyr zsa len ski has crossed all of the lines to do more to help ukraine. >> every year politicians say
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never again. now i see that these words are worthless. in europe a people is being destroyed. >> reporter: but the biden administration remains firmly against implementing a no fly zone over ukraine. >> no such thing as a no fly zone. the u.s. has been working to get additional legal assistance to u.c.? would you provide switch blade jones which detonate on target? >> nato allies, are willing to get some. >> when we have a proper place. >> russia is considering reinforcing their military from outside the ukrainian theater.
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these are russian ships trying to prolong what has been a catastrophic fight. just ahead tonight retired four star general wesley clark. let's check with sam kylie from kyiv. we were seeing russian forces hitting an increasing number of sites. how damaging are these attacks? >> well, first, the retaliation. very significantly, it's not official, but i think the explanation for the recent 36 hour nonstop curfew that we've just emerged from this morning, was a significant push back. counter offensive that we will get past the city. it's now been confirmed by the ukrainians as substantial
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prisoners. in chernaiv where mr. hill was killed, the u.s. citizen, he was killed alongside 52 other people in the last 24 hours. anderson, that's a city 100 miles from here close to the belorussian corridor. in the city of kharkiv the market was struck south of that, over 20 people were killed and so it goes on. almost nonstop increase in the number of casualties. >> caitlyn, secretary blinken said the u.s. may have to supply
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them tomorrow. any readout on what they are hoping to get out of the conversation? >> i think they want to get a real sense, anderson, where the chinese president hasn't spoken. jake silly van, biden's national security adviser did spend several hours talking to a diplomat. the white house wants to get a sense of what they think they were in very good condition. china is moving for granting. they have a lack of gas, food, lack of supplies as they try to conduct this invasion of
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ukraine. we heard from the cia director bill burns who said he believed the chinese president was unsettled by the invasion. even though senior chinese officials knew it was coming, he was unsettled by it because of the nature of it. it wasn't as quick of a move. i think tomorrow the purpose of this conversation between president biden and president xi jinping, where do they stand and if they're willing to help russia with its request. >> sam, what is the latest on humanitarian corridors including leaving people out of the besieged city of mariupol? >> it's an eight out of nine they were bilaterally negotiated and dhe go into effect. we understand 2,000 people were able to get out bringing the total to about 30,000. a lot of them are heading to the city of zaporizhzhia.
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others from the location of the nuclear power station yesterday were attacked as they went out in a humanitarian corridor. there have been others also in the vicinity of here, the capitol of kyiv and indeed from kharkiv. the numbers coming out have been really relatively small because the level of fighting has meant that it's just simply been impossible to get people out. this all happening as the british intelligence have just put out a public statement saying that they believe the logistics chain for the russians has been so badly affected, so badly attacked by ukrainian forces that they're really struggling with resupply. that presents the ukrainians with an opportunity but no doubt will also provoke an equal and opposite response from ukrainians in terms of get more civivilian casualties. >> caitlyn, secretary blinken
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believes they have a strong sense of what russia could do next. what does the administration say? >> yeah. one of those of course is something they've been warning about, which is russia could cop duct a chemical weapons attack, blame it on the ukraine yaps and use it to have a greater use of force. we know civilians were sheltering. another concern is russia will send in mercenaries as they struggle with the military plan. another concern is kidnapping local officials and try to replace them with puppet officials and put them in their place. he also warned that russia might be trying to send in local government officials from russia to certain areas in ukraine and try to fulfill this government role and use economic assistance to prop up the economy where they would be to make the ukrainians more dependent on the
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kremlin. props like that is what they were warning about today. we've seen kidnappings of local officials. secretary blinken, we should note, when he predicts what's going to happen, we've seen it play out to a t. he's now worried what could happen now that we're going into the fourth week. >> sam, there was a report about another mayor from a town in the northeast part of the country who was kidnapped by russian forces? >> yeah. a town just on the outskirts of kharkiv, anderson. a pattern to not only capture but replace the political administration.
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yesterday a mayor was released. russians are trying to run towns they're taking on, kherson. that is the biggest city they have captured in that location. there has been daily protests against the presence of russian troops there, almost daily protests. local protestors aren't fighting any longer. they are trying to undermine some parallel political administration, anderson. >> sam kiley, appreciate it. kaitlyn collins. hard to get reporting directly out of kharkiv because of the punishing attacks. coming up next, joined by a correspondent who's just returned spending 5 days there. later, a top american official who has sadly seen far too much
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russian shells hit kharkiv central market today, one of the largest in the world. few cities have been targeted the way kharkiv has. for the last five days my next guest has been in the middle of it. >> look at that destruction just from a few days ago. then if you come over here, it's actually a children's playground that's just behind us as well. that's an explosion that just happened just a couple of hours ago. we had it. it was very, very loud. that's the reality. >> vice news correspondent joins
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us now. what's the shelling and destruction like in kharkiv while you were there? >> reporter: it was unbelievable. i mean, this is ukraine's second largest city. it's very close to the russian border. there are a lot of russian speakers there. close result turl ties. fighting in ukraine over the past eight years, very likely you would have been in the city. there are lots of people and in a matter of days it's completely different. so i went back to the first time after this and it was unbelievable the level of destruction we saw. so many streets in central kharkiv was really difficult to absorb and there were huge buildings. there was one street that we went to today in fact that had
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been hit three different times on different days. if you can see in some of the footage, it's just really, really incredible damage that has been made in the city. >> we saw some emergency workers in that piece we showed in the introduction. i mean, they must be working constantly. i know you spoke to some of them. >> reporter: that's right. so on one of the early days when we first arrived in kharkiv, we turned up to a building that had been completely behind the woman on the fourth floor and we met some of those people trying to pull the body out. they were working all day in order to try and do that. then there were different sites that we ended up at, different buildings that were damaged or
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hit. imagine this is what they were doing all day, that there were so many people, so many bodies trapped and they could do as much as they could do. >> are they -- i mean, are they able to collect the -- you talk about emergency workers, trying to get one person out. you went to the city morgue as well. >> yeah. unfortunately one of the buildings that we were at, the one that i just mentioned. i don't want to remove all of the rubble. the destruction is fine. what was really fabulous. they were just next door and
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able to get out. the missile had just hit above where she was living. they pulled her body out and they called her husband back to say they found her. they took her to the mall and then let him into the mall. there were just bodies absolutely everywhere. they were all over the floor, outside, they told us that the basement was full. there were makeshift tents and that was outside of them. they will molt first. we met the son of the 73-year-old grandmother. we went with him to the funeral as well and she had a very, very
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simple funeral with only 12 people. in january we picked goat with the village turning out, the church involved and a funeral for this woman. it was just a few people sit around the place saying good-bye to her. it was incredibly sad. >> it's one of the many indignities of this war and got him into a good place that when they died, their friends, family, loved ones, lifetime of neighbors and friends. can't be there to bury them. in the final hours and moments. the city before the war, i think it had something like 1.5 -- 1 million to 1.5 million people
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living there. do you have any sense of how many people have actually left? obviously i don't keep account of this, but a lot of people m must have gotten out if they could? >> the streets do seem incredibly empty now. most people have fled because you have moved into metro stations which are used as bomb shelters. all people who just have nowhere else to go and who have spent their lives building their homes, they don't have the option of being able to leave the city and go somewhere else so they feel that they have to stay put, there's nothing else to do. we went into the metro stations and bomb shelter and she lived
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around the corner and it was completely destroyed. she had no option but to live in this train station for my back. people living inside the train. on the platform. reduced to bags of clothes that they had. relying on the aid. old people sat by themselves. that is the reality for a lot of people. actually talking about the mold, what was really striking, the people who facing this or they
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don't escape the mall because we had an opportunitily huge strike. while she was there there was a massive strike. everybody just got down to the floor and then tried to hide and get to the basement. then when we went out, not too far away. a huge building in the middle of the 50s had been hit. the same with kelly. firefighters are trying to put the flames out. that's the reality and the people in the metro station. we're talking to people, you can
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see the fear that they're experiencing. some of them have lost their homes. some of them both the account number. it's living in constant fear and not knowing what tomorrow brings. >> the hints is on. remarkably you were able to get there. i appreciate you talking to us, thank you. >> thank you. >> be careful. reaction to the situation in kharkiv. we have james clapper. director clapper, you heard our last guest. you've seen impages from kharkiv. i mean, obviously we have seen
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them, which we're talking about. supporting fearless posters? is anything that's happening now, is it surprising? >> no. unfor two nightly. this isn't a surprise. this is the standard russian hsh surrounded. put it under siege, strangle it, prevent supplies, medicines, food, water, et cetera. then bomb bartd the city, two circumstances. destroy the city and their behavior in ukraine and tro digs nal intelligence has said it
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was, quote, sustained on all front nights. >> around keep. hearing that they've done this on the ground, it means they may not be advancing to the green the way they like. >> that's right, anderson. they did not assemble and do not have enough combat power in four or less of four. it's attempted to attack into ukraine. ukrainians have been good at killing a lot of russian
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soldiers and they've destroyed or damage or captured a lot of russian equipment. so that will further mon tulo case is to resort to a favorite attack and the purpose of which is to both terrorize the stit sen and without regard to who they are our pattern. they're conventionally sold, just not working. >> secretary of state blinken said in the press conference today, quote, we have a strong sense of what russia could do next. you've said before in this program that you think it's very possible if not probable putin
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would use chemical weapons. i'm wondering, do you still believe that? does that fit in with what you just said? that would be in the sick calculus of vladimir putin. >> yes, it would be what is the maj r issue. bombard the city, then what the troops try to march in. and if they ran into resistance, it's myer belief they would have done it. that would fit the template. >> appreciate your time as
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exporting aid in, civilians out. some are open today. eight of nine warped as planned. essex official. someone who's well versed in suffering the and investor power, how difficult is it to get aid into ukraine and people out of ukraine? >> well, for those who started living towards the west, those people were able to move quickly, people who you saw letting that happen. 70 thounchts kids purr day. if you lived in one of the
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besieged areas, under the circumstances a dirs gusting. >> even reports of dye me drags dets from ub rop. it's not a coincident, not an attack close the device on some civilians with the firefighters. the laj zbik of seize, that is an old school tactic and it is not allowed under international humanitarian law to say the least, but the reason these organizations are not hard to organize, it's not because of bat weather, evan left for nn this morning. >> s.u.:a.d we along with the
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rest of the grt to only smaller for you. with the united states pressured. countries like india, china, turkey, israel, those that are in constant contact with putin. ensuring they have something so basic to solano p information. they are ready to send food in, send medicine in. that's working with the world health organization, world food program and unicef and others.
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coming across the border who are internally misplaced, a city that is totally overflowing did he ever but. >> i've had a lot of viewers ask why there's not a un presence that are on the ground. why aren't you trying to you tempt, we saw a conflicts. >> well, to distinguish two parts of the u.n. the u.n. is pressing for that to happen much more casually. ran and is just back from ukraine where he sat down with the ukrainian fwoft.
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this is unusual from the lot of place asks infrastructure. that's why i work with the u.n. to get food to the right places. u.n. is ramping up. it takes time to reach the east. the peace keepers is something that if ukrainians wanted, that would get adjudicated as russia has the details. right now the ukrainians are militarily fushing them back but the key is through the u.s. security council and find troops
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willing to deploy into a war zone. >> you've obviously written about thinking about war crimes, international justice. i spoke with the chief to the homeowner, the may door ofs, how critical is that work, do you think? >> it is absolutely critical. there are groups within the sty alleged there are those who have been systematized. so now a lot of those groups are
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coming and passing those trainings along to other organizations or to buyer beeg and send 2 to me. like this. also by an overwhelming margin in geneva, a commission of inquiry. all of those works have ultimately one step. i think this pipeline is getting established now. it has to be because every day you see the intensional targeting of civilians. and like every day before it. >> appreciate your time tonight. thank you. thanks again for being there, anderson. >> up next, more on the needs of
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the refugee crisis stemming from the war on ukraine has reached you be precedented levels. they're trying to create a fast-track path from those fleeing evasion. most ukrainians fleeing the violence are going to neighboring countries like you know like poland which is 2 million polish refugees and despite reaching the safety there, the challenges are endless but there is also help. cnn's ed lavandera has more now. >> reporter: when ukrainian refugees step off the train in poland, there's a sense of relief they've escaped the war zone but now these families must have navigated but for most others this tunnel leads them to
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the main train station haul where they make sense of the overwhelming confusion on their own. they have no plan. it's improvised from her. >> and into the station is the sign in ukrainian and polish that says, here you are safe. families emerge from the train with endless questions. >> reporter: about 20,000 refugees a day are endlessly
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moving in this one small polish city filling the halls of this train station built in the 19th century. as parents figure it out, exhausted children find bass sets. this is what it is confusion fills the air. these refugees have made it out of the first maze onto a bus that will take them to warsaw. and there, the questions will start all over again. >> i mean, it's really incredible to see, you know, all the help that's there for them.
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on op toft on fusion, we're seeing international organizations warning of the vulnerability of the possibility of human trafficking, people going into people's houses that they don't know. what do you see that's being done to try to keep people safe? >> well, anderson, you know in the first three weeks of this crisis, the priority has been to get ukrainian refugees moved out of their home country into safer places here in poland and across europe. but, you know, the good will of many people who have come out to offer private rides raises that concern about human trafficking, women and children being sexually assaulted or taken advantage of. we have seen attempts to try to at least educate refugees as they're arriving here, fliers like this giving tips to women about what they should do if they're to get in a car with a ride to a neighborhood somewhere in europe, take pictures of the person driving, license plate,
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driver's license and all that information and share it with loved ones. but it is not a fool-proof method. at one point at one station they're asking drivers to register so that they can keep track of who's offering to drive refugees to places. but there's no criminal background checks. anyone can show up there and register. so, at this point, really what we're seeing is attempts to spread the word in crowds like this that they should be aware of these kinds of dangers. but that's the best they can do because the priority has been moving people as quickly as possible. >> yeah, ed 11 der row in poland. the american citizen killed in ukraine, what we are learning about what he was doing and details of what happened. to des to provide flexible pay options and greater workforce visibility today, so you can have more success totomorrow. ♪ one thing leads to another, yeah, yeah ♪ vo: here we are again. an overseas conflict hikes up our gas prices. and oil ceos rake in record profits.
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artillery fire. his names is james whitney hill. he wasn't a soldier in this war, not on the frontlines. he was just an innocent person trying to live his life. he was here caring for an ailing loved one. >> reporter: bombing has intensified. no way out. that was the last post from american james hill before confirmation of his death. his facebook detailing a chilling account of his last days in ukraine. intense bombing. still alive. limited food. room very cold. >> at one point a missile went by him and landed at a distance. >> reporter: according to his family, hill was waiting in a bread line with several other people when they were gunned down by russian military snipers. his body was found in the street by the local police.
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hill was with his partner ira, who's ukrainian and battling ms. >> he was not going to leave ira's side in her condition. >> reporter: we're hanging in there, he wrote on monday, very cold inside. food portions are reduced. bombing and explosions most of the night. hard to sleep. people getting depressed. in his post, he describes feeling helpless, hungry, and cold while narrating a war. intense bombing last night for two hours. it was close to hospital. machine gunfire could be heard. it stopped just after midnight. hill even encouraging political action, posting this on march 7th. "for my american friends and relatives, please pressure your local representatives to expedite american visas for ukrainians, especially for families with children and skilled workers."
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>> my brother was the helper that people find in a crisis. >> reporter: but while he wanted to help others and find a way out, it was too late. >> we don't know where my brother's body is, so that kind of closure the family won't have right now. >> reporter: camila ber now, cnn, los angeles. >> our condolences to the family. we'll take a closer look at the attacks in cher neve as the carnage grows across ukraine. that's ahead. plus arnold schwarzenegger sending a message directly to russians pleading for peace. we'll be right back.
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