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there was in all the other developments today a remarkable plea from the son of a man who had once been in the same position as the russian troops now surrounding and laying siege to the troops here. his father took part in the german siege of lenin grad, which killed hundreds of thousands of civilians.

today that soldier's son, former california governor arnold schwarzenegger, put out this message to russian citizens or russian troops to not do what his father did and be tormented by the memories of it for the rest of his life. >> let me tell you, when my father arrived in lenin grad, he was all pumped up on the lies of his government. when he left, he was broken, physically and mentally. he lived the rest of his life in pain, pain from a broken back, pain from the shrapnel that always reminded him of these terrible years, and pain from the guilt that he felt. to the russian soldiers listening to this broadcast, you already know much of the truth that i've been speaking. you've seen it with your own eyes. i don't want you to be broken like my father. >> it's a really remarkable and very personal message. today ukraine's president also

referred back to the second world war. he said the phrase that was birthed in the horrors of it, never again, is now in his words, quote worthless. on a day here that saw fresh horrors all across the country and in the city of mariupol, at least some possible measure of hope. fred flpleitgen is here with men lviv. what do we know about what's going on with the theater? >> there is that glimmer of hope, as you put it. but you have the rescue crews who can't get to the people because there's so much rubble on top of them. in the three weeks that this conflict has been going on, 80% of the buildings in mariupol have been damaged, 30% beyond any sort of repair. that's one of the reasons why it's so difficult to get people out of that building or out of the cellar of that building, 50 and 100 attacks per day. it's not only in mariupol.

it's in other cities as well. >> reporter: as vladimir putin's military rains bombs, rockets, and artillery on ukraine, civilians are paying the highest price, scores killed and maimed. in chernev north of kyiv, rescue workers dig out the bodies of an entire family killed when a residential building was hit. dozens were civilians lost their lives in attacks, the ukrainian government now confirming that u.s. citizen james whitney hill was among those killed. i asked chernev's mayor to tell me about the situation in his city. >> translator: the intensity of the shelling has increased. it's been indiscriminate, apparently random. we're not talking about certain military infrastructure buildings being bombed. in reality, houses are being destroyed. schools and kindergartens are being destroyed. >> reporter: this graphic video shows the gruesome aftermath of an attack on people waiting in a bread line in the same town.

witnesses say at least ten civilians were killed. russia's military cynically claiming it wasn't them. >> translator: all units of the russian armed forces are outside chernev blocking the roads, and no offensive actions are being taken against the city. >> reporter: other cities are getting shelled as well. one of the hardest hit, mariupol in the southeast. several were killed and wounded, mostly women and children, when will a maternity ward and children's hospital were hit last week. and then the main theater, where the u.s. believes hundreds of people had taken shelter, was bombed. a small miracle, the bomb shelter under the building held up, helping some of those inside survive, though it's still unclear how many. authorities say efforts to pull people from the rubble are being hindered by the total breakdown of public services and the threat of further russian attacks. aerial images shows the building was clearly marked as having children inside, leaving

ukraine's defense minister irate. >> you can see from the maps from the drones that are around this, there's big letters of children were written so that the pilot of the plane who was throwing the bombs could see. still this monster has bombed the theater. >> reporter: the russians claim they only target military installations, sending out this video of them allegedly destroying ukrainian howitzers. the ukrainian defense ministry says the russians are increasingly hitting cities with heavy and less accurate weapons because they're simply running out of precise munitions as the war drags on. experts believe it will only get worse. >> they're very intentionally targeting water stations and power supplies and internet towers and cell phone towers and that sort of thing in a very deliberate attempt to make it more difficult for the defenders to hold out and try to force them to capitulate. >> reporter: but despite

bringing massive fire power on civilian areas, the u.s. and its allies say russia's offensive in ukraine has stalled and recent territorial gains have been minimal. >> it's really interesting because there's a new assessment also by the british military today that the russians still can't get their logistics going, have a lot of problems with that, also facing of course attacks on ukrainian military. that diminishes their offensive power. you have these massive attacks on civilians, very little gain on the battlefield. >> fred pleitgen, thanks so much. for all things military three week into this war, we're joined by william cohen, who served as defense secretary in the clinton administration. also retired army general and allied commander general wesley clark. general clark, the uk ministry of defense said today, as fred just mentioned, that the invasion has largely stalled on all fronts. if that's accurate, what is russia's next move then? >> i think russia's next move is to rebuild its logistics,

recruit a bunch of mercenaries, and continue the pressure on ukraine. don't be fooled by the negotiations. the negotiations are a pause. it's an effort to cover what russia's doing. they're going to rebuild their logistics, bring in more shells, bring in more people, bring in more systems, and keep the pressure on in effort to break zelenskyy and show that the west's support for ukraine is inadequate. >> secretary cohen, what then does ukraine try to do? if that's the reality, if this is -- if this is just in a time when they're going to try to rebuild from the rear, bring in more armaments and recruit mercenaries, what does ukraine do? >> well, ukraine is going to continue to suffer hardship. we can be inspired by their courage and their resilience to date. but the fact is that the russians will be even more brutal.

and that is why i still -- it may be wishful thinking on my part, but i still think the chinese have an opportunity to help solve this problem before it gets any worse. again, may be wishful thinking, but i think president biden is going to have to ask the chinese, is russian oil thicker than ukrainian blood? and their answer may be yes. if that's the case, i think it will serve to, i guess, impact the chinese not immediately but down the line because every year, there's a conference in china called the china development forum, in which many of the top ceos in the major companies in the world meet. and during that time, they're asking for western investment. that's going to be harder to get now, if they do, in fact, turn away from trying to help here. and secondly they're asking for help on the part of the united states and other western countries to help the children in the middle of china, the poorer areas of china. again, it's going to be hard for

them to ask the west to help their children if they are standing by and watching the bloody massacre that's taking place by their new best friend. >> general clark, how does ukraine fight against russian artillery? i mean, we know they'd like to close the sky is the term they're using. but a lot of the damage that's being done to residential areas, to other sites, and militarily as well, is from russian artillery, long-range ballistic missiles and the like. how does ukraine fight against that? >> they do have some kind of battery radars, but they're short range radars. they do have some artillery they can fire back in battle. but, anderson, the key thing is that ukraine cannot stand out there and wait in a perimeter and wait to be attacked. ukrainian soldiers have to take the offensive. they have to move out from those

cities in small groups, hunt and kill the russians that are closing in on them. this is a critical thing to be done now. they've got to consume that russian military before it can be reinforced. you have to look at it this way. when the russians bring their military in close, they make themselves targets. ukrainians have the javelins, they've got the stingers. they've got the courage. they know the local area. they've got to go out there and dig them out. that's the only way they're going to win this. >> secretary cohen, if the other aspect about china is if they do choose to help russia militarily, economically, they would be in violation of these sanctions. >> the likelihood is that they would be receiving -- would be on the receiving end of those sanctions as well, which can hit their economy fairly hard. i think the chinese share the same view as the russians do of

the united states in particular, but the west in general, that the united states is in a period of moral decay from within. and political dysfunctionalty. and so what their goal now is to split the european countries away from the united states and then think that the united states will devour itself with infighting between the democrats and republicans, the left wing and the right wing. i think they're counting in the long run that the united states will no longer be the power that it once was. and they will be in a position with russia to shape the international quarter in ways they design rather than the west. >> it's terrifying to hear, you know, as you said, the chinese assessment of politics in the u.s. and how those -- that polarization, in their view, will lead to the downfall of the u.s. secretary cohen, appreciate it. general clark as well. next to secretary cohen's

point, more on china's factor, more from the white house where the president is preparing for tomorrow's high stakes conversation. and later my conversation what about what heidi levine has seen in her time here. ( ♪ ) ( ♪ )

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. just a day after unveiling $800 million in military assistance to ukraine and with sanctions tightening on russia, president biden tomorrow will address the wildcard. we spoke about it before the break, the one country that could blunt the affects of those sanctions and affect the military balance if it chooses. the country is china. phil mattingly joins us now from the white house with the latest on that. what do we expect from this call? >> reporter: anderson, white house officials know the stakes and they know the president knows the stakes. and the preparation behind the scenes has backed up the stakes of this moment but so have the public comments.

secretary of state antony blinken making explicit concerns. >> we believe china particular has responsibility to use its influence to president putin and defend the principles and rules it professes to support. instead, it appears that china is moving in the opposite direction, by refusing to condemn this aggression, while seeking to portray itself as an arbiter. and we're concerned they're considering assisting russia. >> and the concerns have grown more palpable over the last few days due to intelligence american officials have collected and confusion about the ambiguity about the chinese position, the idea that china hasn't necessarily chosen one side or another. and that flies in the face of long standing policy. the president has made clear he's had a relationship with president xi jinping over the course of time, particularly when he was vice president. and u.s. officials believe that a one-to-one call is critical to try and move china off the

current fence and unsustainable balancing act, one official told me, and try and get some better sense of where china stands. the threats at this point are very real of repercussions should china move in to assist russia. president biden will try to ensure that remains the case, anderson. >> is there any sense of what the consequences would be if china did help russia? >> white house officials, anderson, have been very tight lipped about what would actually be on the table. but they have communicated in the nearly seven-hour meeting between president biden's national security adviser jake sullivan last week in rome what they are expected to be and president biden is expected to be very clear when we speaks to president xi jinping. but there's a broader issue i'm told president biden will try to illustrate in this phone call, and that is that the geopolitical and economic repercussions are much bigger than passing one threshold or certain set of sanctions.

they will largely define the next set of years if not longer if terms of the world order. that's something the president wants to get across as china and the u.s. are competing world powers. the relationship needs to stay at least somewhat stable, anderson. >> phil mattingly, appreciate it. with that on the table and the geopolitical stakes running high, i want to check in with fareed zakaria. this will be the first call between president biden and his chinese counterpart since russia invaded ukraine. what do you think the president needs to convey? >> it's a very consequential call. it's one of the highest stakes diplomacy, diplomatic issues that the president is dealing with. i think what he needs to convey to the chinese is look, china's main economic relations are with europe and the united states.

china trades ten times as much with europe and the united states as it does with russia. it needs to recognize that in order to maintain that relationship, in order to maintain its integration into the world, it has to get off the ball and it has to recognize that the russian invasion of ukraine is a violation of every norm that china has advocated. and he should point out that the united states wants to have a good working relationship with china. china is a competitor, but it does not have to be an enemy. but if china were to choose -- so, you have to convey i think there is an upside for china with all this. but the downside could be very substantial. you were asking, anderson, the united states still has two extraordinary powers. the power of the dollar. it could freeze chinese banks, chinese companies out of the international payment system using its ability, the power it has with the dollar. the second part, which i haven't seen people talk about, is the united states is also an energy

superpower. china is the world's largest importer of liquified natural gas. if china were to violate sanctions by aiding russia, they are then in violation themselves. the united states could well decide to sanction all the chinese -- all the natural gas that's going to china. so, then you have a china doesn't have integration into international financial markets, the dollar, and it doesn't have energy. and that would trigger a recession in china. so, there is a very substantial weapon that the united states could use. obviously these things should be thought about carefully. but the stakes are very high. we have joined this battle. russia cannot win this struggle against ukraine. the united states has to be -- and its allies -- have to prevail. and if that means playing tough with china, the president will have to play tough with china.

>> china doesn't want, though, a resurgent, unified nato, does it? i mean, that doesn't seem to be in china's playbook or to their advantage as they see it. and if the u.s. does -- you know, if russia is defeated in ukraine, doesn't nato become more important, more powerful? >> so, china doesn't really have very much to do with nato. all chinas issues in terms of security, geopolitics, the issues they bring up, have to do with east asia, southeast asia. it's not a large issue. for them, what has happened under xi, china has decided that america and germany is both unsustainable and bad for china. and so anything that erodes that in germany, anything that attacks american power, china has tended to either tacitly or openly support. it's a very bad decision by xi

jinping. and it has not really served china's interest. china has alienated australia, alienated japan, south korea, vietnam, india, the european union over the last five or six years. you know, xi's wolf warrior diplomacy has only ended up making china the most distrusted and disliked large country in the world. so, i don't think -- i mean, the question is, do the chinese realize they have gotten in bed with vladimir putin, a guy who -- first of all, a failing economy. i think it's about a tenth the size of china's. a declining nation, and a country that is getting into all kinds of geopolitical trouble. china needs to maintain good relations with europe and the united states. that's who invests in china. that's who buy chinese products. so, it's a very self-defeating kind of policy, but xi seems to be one of these populist

nationalists, who for whom the emotional content of his policy has become more important than the rational deliberation. this is a very far cry from the chinese foreign policy we used to see under xiaoping and his successors. >> fareed za ckaria, thank you. coming up, the sorrow documented for the world by a long-time photojournalist who is seeing these moments first hand. she joins me next. at adp, we use data-driven insights to design hr solutions to help you engage and retain top performers today, so you can have more success tomorrow. ♪ one thing leads to anothe yeah, yeah ♪

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tonight with the war in its fourth week, we are looking at the story behind some of the most remarkable images that the world has been seeing. heidi levine is covering the war for the "washington post." her award winning photography catching wars and revolution go back 30 years nearly. she joined me earlier from kyiv. heidi, thanks for joining us. i really so admire your work. your photographs are so human. seeing that man being carried on the back of someone else and the look on his face, you can imagine that man, the woman in the wheelbarrow being your grandfather, being your father. it's -- they're just -- >> i mean, to be honest, i mean, people always ask me, what is -- like, how do you do this kind of work? how do you deal with what you

see? and that night, i literally woke at 3:00 in the morning with a nightmare. and i mean, i could not help but to imagine, like, you know, when i was filing my pictures, you know, besides documenting and witnessing what i'm witnessing in the moment, then coming back and then looking at all these images again and editing and writing captions. and it's just, like -- it really hit me, like, beyond description because i can't -- i mean, all i want to write in my caption is, like, what is -- what if this was your grandmother? i mean, how would you feel? how do these people cope? i want my audience to try to connect to my work and imagine, like, what if you just had an hour or even less to try to, like, pack up what you can carry, including your children, your grandparents or any other family members and, like, you know, they don't even have time to even pack their photo albums.

can you imagine just, like, fleeing and leaving your whole family history behind, never understanding -- never knowing that you may not even be able to return to your own home. i mean, that's what i want the audience to understand. this could be them. this could be me. and you know, the camera lens doesn't stop me from feeling because i'm on the other side of the camera. i mean, i cannot prevent myself from, you know, even crying in the moment or hugging people or, you know, stopping to photograph to help people. and i have to say that so many of my colleagues are doing that. >> you also took pictures of a guy named alex. this was extraordinary to me. he's volunteering -- he's volunteering in a morgue in his community. he's not an experienced -- i mean, this is not what he does for a leving. he he is volunteering. >> this is someone i met earlier

today outside the morgue. and you looked at him, and just -- you can smell death there. you can see death just by what he's wearing, the expression on his face. this is not his job. he's volunteering. he's actually a marketing manager in his real life. and he's told me that, you know, i mean, his quote -- i mean, i can quote him as saying, like, nobody can handle doing what i'm doing for more than two or three days because it's just otoo horrific. quote, unquote. i've already seen more than ten bodies today, and the day is not even over. >> you also document the new life. you took photograph of an expectant mother in the hallway of an underground makeshift maternity ward there in kyiv. i mean, you know, to know what it's like to be in a hospital,

you know, with somebody about to give birth, i mean, in these conditions, it's -- it's just -- i just find that photograph extraordinary. >> well, thank you. first of all, i mean, these mothers or even the women that have already given birth that i met are frightened. they don't know where they're going, if they're going to have a home to go back to once they give birth or their newborns are released from the hospital. one mother said to me, you know, i was dreaming that when i gave birth, my whole family would be there with flowers and candy and here look at me. she was just crying. it's just horrible. i'm a mother of three children. i know what it's like to give birth. and it is really scary in normal life, let alone under these horrific conditions. >> some of the photographs obviously are extremely hard to look at but so i think important

because it is the reality of what's happening here. >> look, war is horrible. it's horrific and you can't sugar coat it. it is terrible. and i can't imagine, you know, any family on the either side of this conflict not suffering in some way. i don't know what the situation is for these mothers in russia that know that their sons have been killed do. they know? will they know? will their bodies ever be return snd i mean, these are all, you know, really important questions. the bottom line is a lot of people are dying. a lot of people suffering. all of the attacks that i have recovered so far during this war have been on civilians. and it's really important for the world to know the extent and tim pact of civilian life here in ukraine.

>> heidi, i can't imagine how difficult it is every day. but your work matters, and i appreciate you talking to us about it. >> well, thank you very much. and first -- and i really would like to also express my condolences to everyone who has lost someone or lost their home and also to the families of my colleagues who were tragically killed here in ukraine. >> yeah. heidi levine, thank you. be careful. >> well, thank you very much. >> i think it's valuable in a situation like this to look at a war, look at a situation like this from as many different angles as possible. in talking to some of the photojournalists over the last three weeks, as we have been, one of the reasons we do it is to give you a sense of how seriously so many of the people who are working in this

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earlier i spoke with samantha power, current head of the u.s. agency for international development. she talked about the extreme difficulty of getting refugees out, and that if you live in one of the besieged areas, it's excruciating. little food, water, or medicine. even, she said, reports of dehydration deaths, which we've heard about in the city of mariupol. miguel marquez met some of the fortunate ukrainians who were able to escape and are now experiencing life in a romanian city who opened their arms to them. >> reporter: who are all these people? friends, fellow citizens, and colleagues, she says, family too, all from donbas in,

refugees after the war then. some people cross the border on foot, she says, two borders. not everyone is lucky, as this 86-year-old who had arrived. she survived world war ii. now she's in an apartment in central romania, with her daughter, lots of friends, and her cat. my childhood was spent during the war, she says, now in my old age, there is war again, and for what? in the name of all people, god, please stop the war. the medieval city not far from dracula's castle is preparing 1,000 beds for ukrainian refugees. those beds at a historic business development center, and a brnd new apartment building in the main part of town. >> the main challenge is how to

scale it up because this is only the first wave of refugees. >> how do you feel being here? >> oh, perfect, perfecto. >> reporter: other than perfect, she says, they gave us medicine, new beds. they fed us. then added, it's very, very, very good. the city preparing for even more refugees who are the mayor believes will need even more support and possibly stay for a long time. >> if you're a mother with a child, you can come. we can offer you a job. we are discussing how to integrate children into the educational system. >> reporter: the city planning the future, but needing basic needs too, coordinating with local restaurants preparing thousands of meals. today prepared by dean's irish pub, luck of the irish.

>> it's more than providing meals. we're providing hope to them. and they do need that. and they can see that on their faces and that's really important. >> tatiana, mother and daughter from mykolaiv got here only three days ago. if not for the help here, she says, i don't think our nerves could have taken it. there were air raids day and night. we couldn't eat. we couldn't sleep. many mykolaiv, she says, the planes were flying right over our heads, flying, flying, flying. i can't find words to explain. it's very scary. antony has a simple wish. in my old age, i only wanted peace and prosperity, she says. then added, i'd like everything to be okay, but for now it's not. >> and miguel joins us now. it sounds like they're preparing for refugees to be there for a

very long time. how long in the future are officials planning for? i mean, do they even know? >> reporter: yeah, look, they're planning sort of days and weeks at first, but now at least here and other areas we've seen here in romania, they are looking at weeks or months into years at this point. they're also looking at many more weeks of waves of refugees coming over from ukraine as the russians move west and as that fire becomes more indiscriminate in civilian areas. so, they are planning for a long time. it's going to be a marathon, anderson. >> miguel, appreciate it as always. thank you. coming up, a look into a difficult journey, one brother to rescue a sister from the war in ukraine. roll, benefits, and hr todayay, so you c can have more succes tomorrow. ♪ one thingng leads to anothe, yeah, yeah ♪ ♪ ♪ it's electric... made extraordinary.

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first time his sister step foot. will you go back? >> we have to go back. they need us. they need support. the infrastructure that has been built has been destroyed. >> reporter: how grateful are the two of you are to be sitting here together? >> the best feeling, the best thing in the world is being able to hug my sister. >> reporter: and while she didn't speak much english in our interview, she surprised us with this message of thanks. >> thanks for all people, all country who help my country and my people. >> how many other family members does alexander still have in ukraine? >> reporter: anderson, he figures at least 20 family members are still there, mostly men including his sister's husband and also his mother-in-law is in there.

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you can see the qr code on the bottom of the screen right now, you can take out your phone and scan it, and that'll take you to a podcast i've been doing while i've been here. it's called tug-of-war. in the latest episode i talk with cnn's sarah schneider on her reporting on the refugee crisis and what she's been

seeing throughout poland and ukraine. what makes her such a great reporter, she sees these moments others might miss. she has an ability to capther them and weave them into the story she's telling. we talk about that and why those moments are important. i also have a conversation with clarissa ward in another podcast and nick paten walsh. if you want to listen scan the qr code on your screen or you can just find it on your favorite podcast. it's called tug-of-war. stay with cnn for the latest from ukraine. the news continues right now. i want to turn things over to don who's in slovakia tonight. don? >> reporter: anderson, as you know this is the biggest humanitarian crisis in europe since world war ii and the nato and u.s. are going to have to do a lot of assuring to the people here to ensure they know they're on their side. also the defense secretary lloyd austin met today with hi