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forces intensifying their indiscriminate attacks on civilians. debris striking a residential building in kyiv, killing at least one person. chernihiv coming under heavy attack. at least one american citizen killed. in city by russian military fire. tonight we'll learn more about minnesota native james hill. and vladimir putin rumored to be worth $100 billion, reportedly enriched by corrupt oligarchs and said to be the owner of this 190,000 square foot mansion, really more of a palace on the black sea. experts say his vast wealth is hidden. a cnn investigation is ahead. we have a whole lot to get to in this broadcast. we'll begin with fred live for us in lviv. hello to you. we're getting new video of a horrific attack that killed dozens of people, including a u.s. citizen. you spoke to the city's mayor earlier today. what more can you tell us?
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>> reporter: hi there. you're right. the attacks on chernihiv have been increasing a lot. one of the things we have to make clear, that chernihiv is a really important city for the russians. it is right between the capital of kyiv in ukraine and the belarusian border and the russians haven't been able to take it in the last three weeks. it has been encircled. this is why the mayor told me he believes the attacks are increasing. especially over the last couple days, there have been a lot more artillery attacks and incorrect fire attacks. you've had 53 people killed in that town on wednesday alone. of course, one of them being mr. hill, who of course was one of the victims of that. the mayor himself said public infrastructure being targeted, civilian areas being targeted, and he told me, he believes that things are going to get worse in the next couple of days as the russians intensify their attacks, also on civilian
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infrastructure. >> you know, officials tell cnn that the city of mariupol is being hit by 50 to 100 artillery shells every single day, fred. what is the latest on the humanitarian corridors? are people getting out of that city? >> reporter: apparently, some people are getting out. you're right. the humanitarian situation. in town is absolutely awful. the folks on the local council in mariupol say there are still 300,000 people who are hunkering down and haven't been able to get out yet. even when those humanitarian corridors work, there's really not that many people who actually do make it out because things are congested, it is quite difficult. and a lot of people, quite frankly, are afraid to get out. they have to go through an area that's controlled by the russians before they can get to fairly safe areas. the russians still hitting that town very, very hard. 80% of the buildings in mariupol have already been damaged in three weeks. that's a massive onslaught.
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30% are damaged beyond any hope of being repaired. and then you have the hit on the theater in mariupol where miraculously, people were able to survive that because they were in the bomb shelter. the authorities can't even get the people out stuck under the rubble because they don't have any services. they don't have any emergency personnel anymore because of the onslaught going on by the russians and quite frankly, they're still facing the indirect fire from the russians as they try to do that, don. >> all right. frederick, thank you very much. we appreciate that. i want to turn to the city of kharkiv where thick smoke is dominating the skies after a russian air strike hit a massive market, setting off a series of fires. that's according to the officials in the eastern ukrainian city. joining me now, marie is a disinformation and security expert who stayed in kharkiv throughout the war to document how russian forces are destroying her city.
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maria, thank you. you're very brave. we appreciate you joining us here on cnn. you've been living through constant shelling to post these videos for the world to see. what has it been like to watch your city get destroyed day after day after day? today it was your famous market, but so many other landmarks and homes have gone up in flames. >> thank you for having me, yes. it is already more than three weeks that i'm staying in kharkiv and it is very difficult to see the historical city center in ruins, because i live quite close, and every day when i go out, i will walk around the district which used to be lively, beautiful, and now it's completely empty, and people are hiding in the underground, in the shelters. there is no one on the street. and the constant shelling continues. so for three days, there were
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very intensive shellings. i saw myself a rocket, 500 meters from where i live. it is a school near there and the rocket was just on the pavement. and then it is all over the city where you can hear the shellings going on continuing and they hit residential areas, which means people that lived here don't have any place to come back now if they left kharkiv or they have to leave now in the underground. i have seen yesterday families with children living there for these three weeks, and this is very hard to see kharkiv like that. >> yeah. wow! right on. you posted this video of an area that weeks ago was filled with people. and you're trying to fight russian disinformation with those posts, all these posts that you're putting up. what kind of action are you receiving? are these videos breaking through? do you think people are seeing
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them? and they're having an impact, maria? >> yeah. i wanted to do that. immediately when russia started this war, when the aggression started, i saw the huge wave of disinformation in russian state media that claimed that russia actually needs to protect from ukraine. they even do not call it a war. they call it a special military operation. they try to hide losses. and what is more important, they deny the killings of civilians and deny attacks on residential areas. and that's why i decided that it is very important to show the people around the world what is actually happening on the ground. because they will see it from someone who is here, who is staying in kharkiv and who sees every day the new destroyments around the city. and people do watch the videos. i have got so many messages throughout the world with support for ukraine and this is also very important.
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i ask people, international community, to make pressure on their governments for more support to ukraine, with defense, with anti-aircraft systems, because russia is bombarding our sky and we are asking for a no-fly zone above ukraine. and there are already some movements in that direction, especially from the baltic states. so this all works. our effort works. but then i also got some threats from russians that they will get control over kharkiv soon, but it's not going according to the putin's plan and russian troops' plan. they are not able to get control over any major ukrainian city yet. and that's why they terrorize civilians. why they bombard the residential area. they cannot get any success on the ground military operation and on the contrary, you bring in forces, pushing russian
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troops back to the russian border. >> and russian missiles are hitting close to where you live. do you see a point when you may have to leave kharkiv yourself? >> well, the most threatening and critical situation is in mariupol right now. so when the city is encircled, i think that russian troops will at some point try to do so, but kharkiv is much bigger city. it is 1.5 million city, now so many people will of course have to flee kharkiv so it is almost all empty. but then i don't want to stay in the city until the moment, if there will be attempt for this encirclement and i don't want to stay when the russian troops might come into the city. this will be threatening may personal security, of course, a
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very large point because they will be looking for people like myself. i really don't think this is the situation at the moment. i see and i speak to ukrainian military and they say that they are holding the borders of the city very firmly and i think that very soon we will get more support. we are already getting support but we will get more support from our partners. so that will allow ukraine and forces to counter attack and probably we will see a cease-fire at some point, so i really hope i will be able to stay in the city. though very worrying is that i don't think the city will be able to get back to normal life soon because so many buildings are destroyed. so many residential buildings. and it means people will have no place to come back. so it will take much time to rebuild kharkiv again. >> it will take -- >> a beautiful city.
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>> it will take years if not decades to get all that back. and maria, i hope your videos break through. and you're doing something that is really important. thank you so much for joining. stay safe, stay brave, and we'll talk soon. thanks a lot. >> thank you, thank you, bye-bye. thousands of russian troops killed in just three weeks of putin's inhumane on ukraine. what will putin do now? >> we believe moscow may be setting the stage to use a chemical weapon and then falsely blame ukraine to escalate attacks on the ukrainian people.
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as explosives hammer ukrainian cities, western officials believe russia has lost thousands of soldiers since the war began with both sides taking heavy losses. who can hold out the longest is the question. so joining me now, retired air force colonel cedric leighton. this is a lot of losses. russian losses range if 3,000 to 10,000. that doesn't even get to the injured soldiers. is this true? how long can they sustain that? >> well, we're not sure. we know they've had significant losses and as far as sustaining this, you know, after a while it gets to be impossible. even the most populous, and populated armies will run out of people. and the russians don't have the luxury of having an endless source of people, endless source of military age males.
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it won't work in the long run. >> you know, general petraeus is saying the russians are woefully unprepared for this fight. do you agree? >> well, yes, i think they were woefully unprepared. right in these areas, there is been no movement. they've achieved some gains in north eastern ukraine. of course, fairly significant gains in the south. but very few gains that actually took over many of the larger cities. so what you're seeing is an army that has stalled out. the fact that they've stalled out tells you there's a problem with logistics, with communications, there's a problem with their intelligence, and there is a problem with their morale. so these factors have contributed to making this army not as good as it was on paper. >> a poorly performing russian military can actually be a more dangerous one.
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i am a wrong? >> not at all. when you look at some of the things that are happening in and around kyiv right here, you see them stalled out in the northwestern area. they're close to the city. they haven't moved. and although there are reports of scouts coming into the city limits, and they're making contact with some of the ukrainian forces, the ukrainians are able to beat them back. and this is one of those things where if they get to, if they stay in these positions, they're going to have issues in terms of command and control and keeping the troops under control. when that happens, a lot of what the commanders end up doing is acting in desperation. that may mean far more brutal tactic that's will be employed against cities like kyiv and other major cities in and around ukraine. that will be a major problem, especially from a humanitarian standpoint. >> the pentagon is saying that
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russian troops are no closer to kyiv tonight, but behind the lines, that they're moving more long-range artillery into position. what does that tell but their next moves? >> so this goes in line with what we just talked about. as they move artillery up, that indicates they are preparing to pound the cities into submission. specially kyiv. kyiv is still the center of gravity. in other words, the main point. the major objective of the russian thrust. and when they do that, when they move artillery forward, they're looking at destroying the city. and that is definitely an issue that the ukrainians will have to contend with. and if they can, they need to try to knock out those artillery pieces. >> the defense ministry saying that russia is using older and less precise weapons that are more likely to hit civilians. i mean, wow! what does that tell you? >> that tells you that they are using old tactics because they
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don't have anything else in their arsenal. they have precision-guided munitions and they use them when they feel it is appropriate. they don't have enough of them. and part of their strategy is actually, don, not to use them. it is to go back to the old weapons, to those days of terror and world war ii and other could not conflicts, where precision-guided munitions were not even a factor. and that brings a much more horrific piece of warfare that we thought was in the past and that's a major problem for us. >> colonel, thank you once again. we learned a lot. i did and the audience as well. we appreciate it. >> you bet, don. absolutely. tonight we are learning that an american citizen has been killed by russian military fire in the city of chernihiv. his name is james hill. he was from minnesota.
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he was with his ukrainian partner who is suffering from an illness. more from camilla. >> reporter: bombing has in intensified. no way out. that was the last post from american james hill before confirmation of his death. his facebook detailing a chilling account of his last days in ukraine. intense bombing. still alive. limited food, room very cold. >> at one point a missile went by him and landed at a distance. >> reporter: according to his family, he was waiting in a bread line with several other people when they were gunned down by russian military snipers. his body was found in the street by the local police. hill was in chernihiv with his partner ira who is ukrainian and battling ms. >> he was not going to leave ira's side in her condition. >> we're hanging in there, he
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wrote on monday. very cold inside. food portions are reduced. bombing and explosions most of the night. hard to sleep. people getting depressed. in his post, he described feeling helpless, hungry and cold while narrating a war. intense bombing last night for two hours. it was close to hospital. machine gun fire could be heard. it stopped just after midnight. hill even encouraging political action, posting this on march 7th. for my american friends and relatives, please pressure your local relatives to expedite american visas for ukrainians, especially for families with children and skilled workers. >> my brother was the helper that people find in a crisis. >> while he wanted to help others and find a way out, it was too late. >> we don't know where my
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brother's body is. that kind of closure, the family won't have right now. >> cnn, los angeles. >> thank you very much. i appreciate that. strikes this morning that ukraine's capital, hitting an apartment building, killing at least one person and injuring more. i'll speak with a member of ukraine's parliament who was. in city, right after this. big boi house. big g boi kitchen! big boi waterfalall shower! big boi crawl space. big boi i sold sign, big boi logo. realtor.com to each their home.
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russian forces intensifying their indiscriminate attacks. part of a missile struck an apartment building in kyiv. local officials say at least one person was killed and several others injured. back with me tonight is ivana, a member of the ukrainian parliament. we're so happy to have her back. thank you for joining us once again. you are still in kyiv, even though i've spoken to some members of the parliament who have been commuting and leaving the capital. why are you staying? >> i think it is important to be near the people that are trying to protect the capital, and it is a possibility to ensure that the authorities, the officials are nearby and not leaving and trying to protect the country with them as well.
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we all, to the extent commuting, if there is anything we can do in some other countries, at this point as we are talking with you, the sirens are off again in kyiv. it is the third siren already this night so i'm hoping that our air defense will be able to protect the city yet again, and we will have the less possible destroyment of the city tonight. >> i wonder about your daughters. you have two daughters. are they safe? what do they say when you talk to them? >> yes, they are safe at this moment, and what do they say? they are living through with the whole society, this war, my older daughter actually started writing poems, started drawing pictures. well, she's an artist but she
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started drawing pictures specifically about war. so i think that's how she's finding refuge. she says, the younger one says as well, that they will never forget and they will never forgive. they think that is something to understand for putin and for all the russians engaged in this war. that they are right now preparing the generation of our kids not being able to accept this neighbor with its policies and with its attacks over the country, and the war that they have waged. so it is not us who will be able to push back, then it will be our kids. >> president zelensky spoke with german leaders today after addressing the congress here in the u.s. yesterday, and leaders in the u.k. the day before that. do you think his words are helping bring more support to your country right now?
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>> i hope so. i hope his words and the words of other politicians, and the words of other civilians and average people that you are giving the floor to, that you are giving the voice to, are knocking on the -- not on the doors but on the hearts of all the free people, the free world, in order to press their governments to get additional support to ukraine. i see the changes in the policies across the globe, specifically in the e.u. countries. but this is still, i'm sorry to say, this is still not enough. and the support still has to be stepped up. both militarily and also, in terms of sanctions that should be comprehensive toward russia and toward representatives of russia, and coordinated among the free nations. >> the sanctions opposed on russian -- imposed on russia are
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the largest in history. the u.s. is providing $800 million in new security assistance including aircraft systems, weapons, drones, ammunition and armor. what will it take to stop this man, meaning putin, ivana? >> the resolve and readiness of all the 47 nations to stand behind ukraine and to challenge to stand against russian federation. this particular moment, europe is still paying billions and billions of euros who are buying russian gas and oil and coal from russian federation. so that is supporting influence, and sponsoring the russian war against ukraine as additional sanctions, i think, also are important against members of the families. those people that are taking decisions, close to taking decisions, oligarchs and russian
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federation, all the business should be just recalled for the u.s., for countries in europe, for their families. so they would feel this is personal. and that would also change the point of view there. unfortunate, according to the radio free europe, more than 70% of russians do support this russian, putin's war against ukraine. so therefore we also have to target the russian society for them to understand and not feel, home that they have feeling from this war. but rather, shame and that they would stand up against putin internally as well. >> ivana, thank you so much. i appreciate you appearing again. be safe and may your daughters be safe as well.
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>> thank you. a church, an amphitheatre, a tea house and a hockey rink. i'm not talking about a small city. i'm talking about what is believed to be vladimir putin's 190,000 square foot palace. investigating putin's wealth, after thisis. with a plant-based, helps alleviate stress on skin. so you can get back in sync. new dove men. a restorative shower for body and mind.
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the doj and the treasury department are working with the european commission and seven other countries to go after one of putin's biggest supports, and that's the oligarchs. drew griffin reports. >> reporter: on the shore of the black sea, it can only be described as a palace. 190,000 square feet. from the air, you can see the church, tea house, and amphitheatre, and reportedly an underground hockey rink with a no-fly zone and a no-boat zone. this according to an investigation last year, by the jailed russian opposition leader navalny's group. this they say this palace fit for a king was built for vladimir putin. >> this palace is very much a symbol and he sees himself as a government employee, as an elected figure. he sees himself as a czar, as a king of some sort, and that,
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then, you know, he deserves a palace. >> reporter: cnn can't inlly verify putin's connection to the palace and putin's spokesman denies he owns it or any palace. from the corruption foundation says they have proof. that their sources and documents all point to the palace as an example of how the oligarchs corruptly enrich russia's president. >> it has been paid by russian oligarchs, by russian state-owned companies, money from russian people, from regular people is stolen and diverted into building this horrendous thing on the black sea. >> reporter: according to the investigation and a whistleblower who came forward, the money from the palace came from a russian investment fund company that solicited charity donations from the russian oligarchs.
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>> there are these rumors about putin being the richest man in the world. and he may be. it is very, very hard to try to understand what his wealth is and where it's held. >> reporter: rumored to be worth more than $100 billion officially, putin claim the 800 square foot apartment, a few cars and a modest salary in 2020, valued at about $140,000. but his official income is irrelevant. russia watcher say putin controls russia by determining who gets money and who doesn't. who gets to run business. who skims profit and how the wealth is passed. he doesn't need any assets listed in his name, says the journalist. it is all his when he asks. >> he is closer to something like the godfather. ultimately, they owe everything they have to the boss, and with the click of the fingers, as he's shown in the past, putin can take everything from the oligarch.
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however rich. however influential they may seem. >> reporter: fight the system, interfere in politics and face his wrath. exiled russian oligarch mikhail who was convicted of tax evasion and fraud, spent ten years in a russian prison, he says, for not playing putin's game. he claims putin is paranoid, dangerous, and must be stopped. >> translator: all the accounts of all the old gargs who function as putin's wallet must be stopped. they must all feel pain and it must continue until the war ends. >> reporter: newly imposed sanctions from the west have made it hard for them to do business outside of russia. yachts, bank accounts, frozen. inside russia, the economy shows signs of crumbling. but chipping away from putin's economics will take time. from his actions, it is believed his strategy is far beyond personal riches. >> he wants to rebuild russia as
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a great power. and you almost have to go back to the czarist days to understand it. >> reporter: just looks at the gates of putin's purported palace. a golden two-headed crowned eagle, similar to the winter palace that belonged to russia's last czar. the fact is, getting to the finances of putin may be impossible. and even getting to his oligarchs is tremendously difficult. they have gone to great lengths to hide their assets behind multiple shell companies safely in western countries like the united states. one expert telling cnn, there is literally no paper trail. don? >> all right. drew griffin, thank you very much i want to bring in now cnn global affairs an list susan glasser. wow, stunning! this level of wealth, really staggering here. has putin made himself a czar?
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>> reporter: that was always the framework, improbably enough for this formerer kgb colonel who was hanging a portrait of peter the great in his modest office in the 1990s in st. petersburg. this post-war lenin grad with the crumbling palaces. now you see the grotesque, enormous wealth in the investigation from last year. it is really extraordinary the level of detail that they were able to turn up just about this particular over the top, for something so big and grotesque. >> you know, all these governments are now going after oligarchs' wealth, susan. and it is really amazing. do you think they can keep this up? do you think that it is going to
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put pressure on putin? i mean, if he is the one who has doled out the riches in the first place, how effective could this strategy be? >> reporter: well, look, that's the question. first of all, there is a question of who if anyone is vladimir putin listening to anymore. this is from the beginning of his tenure, it might have been even more effective to crack down on the oligarchs. now you see the signs of isolation with putin at the end of the long tables. if he listened to the oligarchs, he probably wouldn't have been in this war in the first place. so that's one question one has. the flip size is causing him potentially to lose support enormously from these wealthy people who are used to offering with impunity in the west, going to their apartments in london,
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sending their kids to school in the united states and europe. that is cut off to them now. the question is what kind of back lash does that generate on putin. >> putin and his oligarchs, susan, have had decades to hide their money. can sanctions do real harm to putin and his cronies? >> reporter: not to the personal level. these are people who as you've seen are literally grotesquely rich. you see some of the super yachts being impounded by the italians and the like, just absolute levels of thievery and corruption that are grotesque. it won't affect them personally how they live their lives. look at the property. you see the private jets still going there today whale much of the rest of the world is closed off to those russian oligarchs'
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wealth. i think it is a very important factor in understanding the nature of the government that putin has put together. the system in which a small number of people, you know, basically looted the country for their own purposes. >> these oligarchs owe everything to putin. so is it them or the russian people who will need to decide putin has gone too far? >> reporter: well, again, you look at the name of the regime that putin has. and one thing is that over time, he's been more than two decades in power. he has become progressively more isolated and surrounded, really, by the remnants, the security services that he has surrounded himself with. these are not the big business people, although many of them
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have gained from corruption and gained large personal wealth as well. so the question is the system of one man authoritarian rule. it has gone the other direction. rather than the oligarchs having power over putin, he seem to have put more and more power on himself. his speech yesterday was absolutely chilling. i would recommend anyone to listen to a translation of that. almost stalinist in its power of a new purge inside russia to accompany the horrific military action on ukraine next darr. it is really suggesting of a you 92 level of reversion to 20th century-type dictatorship inside russia. it is very scary. >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. we'll be right back. with a plant-based adaptptogen,
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hello and welcome to our viewers around the world this hour and in the united states, as well. i'm hala gorani reporting live from lviv, ukraine. the past 24 hours of russian attacks on ukraine have been especially deadly. dozens of people have been killed across the country. authorities in kharkiv say russian shells hit a sprawling market, causing a huge fire with plumes of black smoke that spread to nearby homes. you can see the devastation there on your screens. kharkiv's mayor says a rescue worker fighting that fire was killed. another russian attack on a nearby school and arts club killed 21 according to local officials. in the southern coastal city of mariupol, survivors have started to emerge from the rubble of that bombed-out shelter, which was a theater initially. authorities say more than a thousand people were sheltering inside when it was hit by a russian bomb. it's not
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