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arnold ukraine. on the 23rd, we saw [ inaudible ] since 2011. >> it's incredible and tonight, he says there is simply no more supply to be had. thanks for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. good evening from lviv, ukraine. we have got new video just in from the aftermath of what could turn out to have been an especially deadly russian air strike on a military base in mykolaiv. the bombs hit several barracks of the base. rescuers use shovels and bare hands to try to free survivors from the rubble. many others, apparently have not. another survivor who was sleeping in the barracks opposite the buildings that were hit said -- and these are his words, i quote -- of the approximately 200 who were there, i would guess about 90% did not survive. again, we cannot independently confirm that. meantime, here in lviv today
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there was a quiet reminder of the kind of war that russia is fighting here against civilians. in lviv, 109 empty strollers symbolizing the children who we know have lost their lives in the bombing and shelling of civilians on a scale not seen here in europe since the second world war. war fi warfare that reminds people daily here that they are the target, whether accidentally or incidentally, as cnn's sam kiley found out in a neighborhood in kyiv, apparently damaged but still deadly russian missile fell. >> reporter: beyond this truck here, beyond the jcb working, a kindergarten. mercifully, no children in it because -- because of the level of bombardment of kyiv. of course, the kindergartens are closed. but it's right opposite another school for older children. but look at the ferocity of the blast. that is what remains of a vehicle.
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if we walk over this way, you can see just how devastating the size of these weapons is quite extraordinary. this is the result of one single blast. a blast that has ripped through this community, peppering cars with shrapnel holes. every one of those would have torn through dozens of people. every one of those bits of flying hot metal designed to rip into human flesh like a razor. white hot and burning. >> now, according to the u.n. today, at least 816 civilians have now been killed. today's number came with a more specific than usual warning that the actual figures would be concertedly higher because so many reported casualties are still awaiting corroboration. this is new drone video from mariupol. take a look at that. i mean, that -- that is stunning. that -- that looks like grozny and chechnya. just block after block destroyed. there are two other pieces of
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video which speak to the moment and the war we think. one shows what the war means to vladimir putin. a grandiose rally today marking the anniversary of russia annexing crimea. but really, a pep rally for this ongoing invasion. his first public appearance since the war began, and a rare large-scale event for him. some who went said they were pressured to go. bussed in. the other video stands in humble contrast to this stadium spectacle, and shows what war means and what war is to ukrainians. ♪
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posted on the ukrainian government twitter feed. the country's national anthem played by a citizen soldier. as we have seen so many people here from all walks of life have joined in the war effort, bringing pieces of those lives, and sometimes the music of it with them. reporting for us tonight, cnn's sam kiley in mykolaiv. n nick paton walsh and at the white house, cnn kaitlan collins. i just want to give you a broader look at the day from cnn's kristen fisher. >> russia is broadening its targets with new air strikes hitting the western city of lviv which previously had been largely spared. the mayor confirming missiles hit near the airport. the city is just over 40 miles from the border with poland and nato country and lviv has been a haven for refugees fleeing the conflict for a stop on the way to europe. and russia is not letting up on the capital kyiv with new
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strikes on the northern residential district, ukrainian emergency services say one person died after remains of a downed missile set fire to a residential building. in the northeast, fires broke out in this massive market in the city of kharkiv after it was shelled by russian forces. city officials say one rescue worker died. in the southern city of mariupol, 130 people have been rescued from that makeshift shelter bombed by russian forces. a theater with the russian word for children written beside the building. russia denies the attack. >> translator: hundreds of mariupol residents are still under the debris despite the shelling, despite all the difficulties, we will continue rescue work. >> reporter: the seemingly intentional targeting of civilians has led many in the biden administration, including the president and secretary of state, to accuse russia of war crimes, as the state department works to gather evidence against russian president vladimir putin. >> in terms of international law, you have to have evidence. you have to have a body of proof
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that, in fact, there was intentionality. >> and as civilians die in ukraine, putin held a concert marking the anniversary of the russian annexation of crimea. the concert featured patriotic songs like this one called "made in the ussr." putin claims russia has never been more united as his country suffers a collapsing economy caused by western sanctions. >> translator: the best proof is the way our boys are fighting in this operation. shoulder to shoulder, supporting each other and if need be protecting each other like brothers. >> reporter: that's not how a top u.s. general sees it. >> they don't appear from where i sit at least to be particularly motivated or particularly -- particularly engaged in the campaign that they are undertaking. >> kristen fisher, cnn, washington. >> with that, let's go to sam kiley in kyiv. we just played some of what you saw earlier today.
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the aftereffects of -- of remains of a missile that fell. what else have you been seeing in -- and hearing? what's going on in kyiv today? >> well, there has -- this afternoon, there was a very heavy bombardment indeed to the far west of the city. very much, i think, beyond the city limits as we would understand them. certainly, beyond the ring road. and at the same time, there have also been some serious blasts in -- in the east of the city. now, not all of these blasts, anderson, are necessarily incoming. in other words, not all fired by the russians because the ukrainians are getting very much more onto the front foot and that may explain why we are seeing more of these long-range missile strikes. today's strike where i was on the ground was very similar to a similar strike yesterday that also caused a number of casualties. also, was a cruise-type missile. a long-range missile that was downed by the anti-missile batteries here in the city.
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the s-300s predominantly. something they need a lot more of, according to the government. but the scale of the destruction at that site is absolutely extraordinary from one piece of ordinance. i mean, i've seen a lot of this over the years but this was extraordinary. it had wiped out literally collapsed four stories, four different apartments over four stories. simply folded down onto the ground, leaving the rest of the building behind. every single building within a range of about 150 to 200 yards was very severely damaged. the roofs, windows, the window frames. i spoke to a woman who had been on the far side of the block, so protected by the block of that building. but she felt that she would have been killed had she not been protected by a wardrobe. and sometimes, survival in those circumstances can -- can depend on that kind of luck. if you got a big wardrobe, you may get prevented from being lacerated by flying glass. if you haven't, you may be torn to pieces. really extraordinary, though,
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that one person was killed there when there were so many potentially in danger. i think the reason so many people survived that is because they were already in bunkers. but these scale of these missile attacks, as you've seen yourself in lviv with these recent attacks on the air -- airfield there -- very pinpoint accurate and very, very dangerous even when shot out of the sky as this one was. >> nick, in mykolaiv, which has been, you know, the front lines for weeks. what more do we know about this attack that happened today? >> yeah. i mean, scant details to be honest. we saw a hospital a number of military injured. i can't give you a precise number and we have not got from officials a precise number of dead or injured. it's fair to say a significant number of soldiers appear to have been killed and injured when rockets or a missile -- that is still unclear -- slammed into a military base very near where i am standing here in
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mykolaiv. again, a reflection of the frustration possibly of russian forces around here. they are not doing well strategically on the ground. we have seen, ourselves, how on the road from here, mykolaiv down to kherson, the next city eastwards along the black sea coast, the first one to be taken by russia. occupied by russia on the road from here to there. we are seeing ukrainian forces pushing down, successfully taking villages back. taking background. fighting clearly shelling by russian forces back as they lose that ground but in losing it, they are doing and so we have seen today two certainly missile strikes. one you mentioned here at the military base in mykolaiv. the death toll of which unclear at this stage. and the second involves another town where russia tried to make its presence felt a number of weeks ago, and failed. a missile slammed into a warehouse storing ammunition there. causing significant destruction
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to that facility itself. again, they lose the fight on the ground and respond with this extraordinary level of blunt force often from long-range missiles. i think that's concerning, anderson, going forward. and if we are going to see russia essentially losing the fight for towns here, it chooses sort of scorched-earth policy of slamming those towns, military facilities, civilian facilities you can see there too in sam's report with extraordinary firepower. >> kaitlan, what did president biden say about his call with president xi? >> he said it went well. i ran into him in the halls of the west wing after he had spoken to chinese president xi jinping for about two hours today. that is the first time they talked since russia started conducting this invasion. it is the first time they talked really in four months so obviously there was a lot to discuss. but really, what officials said they wanted to get to the heart of was president biden wanted to find out if president xi plans to follow through and grant this request that russia has made for
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more military equipment. they have asked not only for economic assistance as they are facing these crippling sanctions but they also want help militarily, and not even just the equipment, anderson. they even need mres. that is something that has been made public. whether that's to put china in a bad spot or to embarrass putin and show his forces are hurting so bad they need these ready to eat meals remains to be seen. but the white house said that biden outlined and got specific about what the consequences would be if china does move to help this because the concern here at the white house is that china could move to help backfill when this comes to th these sanctions or help when it comes to military equipment and they believe that could change the trajectory of this to have xi aligning himself with putin even further than he already has, given we know he got a heads up on the invasion, or at least senior chinese officials did so that's really been the concern at the white house. but the thing tonight is still they are concerned, anderson, that china might follow through and grant that request to russia. and they say basically, they just have to wait and see what
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china does over the next several weeks. >> sam, what are the -- the capabilities? i mean, you talked about the -- the anti-ballistic missile launchers that -- that the ukrainians have but want obviously more of. can you just talk about that a little bit more? um, you know, because obviously those long-range both nick was talking about long-range ballistic missiles and you were. being increasing concern as they don't make progress on the battlefield. what are the capabilities for them to knock rockets coming out of the sky? >> well, they have -- their main anti-aircraft capabilities certainly for the long range is the s 300. they have got stingers but there -- you never get a missile with a stinger but you can hit a helicopter or a low-flying aircraft. they are also being supplied with a number of other of the shorter-range anti-aircraft batteries.
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what they have been asking for in the past is stuff similar to israel's iron dome. resisted sending iron dome in the past. i am not sure where they stand at the moment. but this is clearly -- it is helping to keep the center of kyiv safe. at the same time. and it's very interesting what nick's been reporting there about the battle for mykolaiv and down to kherson because the ukrainian armed forces here in the capital are saying that they are having similar successes in terms of the counteroffensive against the russian invaders in the southwest of the city, the west, and particularly in the east claiming that they have pushed them in the east back 70 kilometers. that puts this, where i am standing here, out of range of all of russia's normal traditional artillery but in range obviously of the longer-range missile systems, such as a scanda and others. and those deliver these very, very big warheads. some of them are smart but some of them are very, very dangerous
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in that they fire in a general direction and i think we will be likely to see more of that as nick was also saying where he is down in the south. >> and, nick, if you could just talk a little bit about the -- the theater that was struck. how many people have, so far, been -- been pulled out? and what do we know about -- i mean, what are the capabilities for them to actually keep digging through the wreckage? >> in mariupol, to the other side -- other side of the crimea peninsula farther east of where i am standing here in mykolaiv, you -- referring to that air strike that hit the drama theater. an established, well-known bomb shelter. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy saying, look, at this stage, 130 people have been pulled or helped out of the rubble there as survivors. the problem is that there were thought to have been over a thousand there when the bomb
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struck. and that's backed up by video shot or posted six days before that rather barbaric attack showing women and children crammed in there, sharing what food they could have. and so, we are now still two days later because of the difficulties that rescuers have frankly in the number of rescuers available to the task and the fact that task is impeded by intense shelling around them, we are still unclear as to how many people were in that bomb shelter. how many survived, how many have been brought out. 130 that we know of but hopefully that figure has grown in recent hours. and so, still, that utterly chilling attack is lacking basic information because of the circumstances in which it occurred, anderson. obviously, the priority of rescuers, getting people out. no telling who unfortunately remains in these circumstances but satellite images showing the damage done to mariupol and a lengthy queue of cars trying to get out as these humanitarian
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corridors struggle to do anything positive for those stuck in there in such fraught circumstances. >> nick paton walsh, sam kiley, kaitlan collins, thank you. coming up next, a cnn exclusive. we saw russian forces grab him. the kidnap caught on security cameras we reported on his release and a prisoner swap. tonight, my conversation with the mayor of melitopol. later, our military analyst, two top generals on the mykolaiv strike but also the growing assessment that russia is losing momentum and transitioning into a long, grinding, and deadly to civilians war of attrition. even with rerepeated combing hair treated with dove shows 97% less breakagege. strong hair with new dove breakagege remedy. number one beauty brand not tested on animalals. ( ♪ ) ( ♪ ) ( ♪ )
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when you're driving a lincoln, stress seems to evaporate into thin air. which leaves us to wonder, where does it go? does it shoot off like a rocket? or float off into the clouds? daddy! or maybe it takes on a life all its own. perhaps you'll come up with your own theory of where the stress goes. behind the wheel of a lincoln is a mighty fine place to start. there is word tonight that the mayor of a kharkiv area town has been released. several days earlier, you may remember russians grabbed melitopol's mayor. that is them, you see at the top of your screen. hustling him away.
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he was freed just yesterday in a prisoner swap according to officials. and gave his first english language interview to us today. spoke to him earlier and you will see the video connection was at times hit and miss but we think it's important for you to hear what he had to say. >> mayor federov, what happened when you were abducted? where were you and what did they do? >> they told me on the melitopol police in small room. in room for bad boys. and they held me till six days and show me that they have greatest power, they have greatest army. many soldiers with guns and they ask me stop meeting in melitopol.
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from peoples who want to leave in ukraine but not in russia federation. they want me to stop meetings. they want me -- that i support him to make russian federation in melitopol but i say no, i can't do. >> was it russian soldiers who took you? >> yes, many soldiers talk with me. not only soldiers but special secret services agent. >> how did they treat you? did they -- were they -- did they hurt you? did they yell at you? how did they treat you? >> no, no, no. they leave me without any connections. so they leave me without any in the next room police they beat some and, you know, it's very dangerous situation.
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>> you -- after you were arrested, citizens in your town protested in the streets calling for your return. did you know that was happening? did you know that people were protest something protesting? >> no, i don't know anything because i was without cell phone, without internet, without any information. i don't know it. >> a prosecutor in the luhansk region backed by russia said that you were going to be tried for terrorism charges. were you told that? >> no, i don't know -- no. of course -- of course -- not because i don't know any terrorists organization in ukraine. and of course, i didn't give anything else for him. it's -- it's a joke. it's nothing. >> president zelenskyy said your kidnapping was a crime against
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democracy. there are other ukrainian officials in other cities who have reportedly been kidnapped as well. is this what is going to happen? is this russia's plan in cities they controlled? >> of course it's russian plan because many my colleagues and are now in the same situation. and now, we try to help them but of course it's russian plan because i and my colleagues elected mayors and elected by our citizens. that's why they want to push us. they want to make us in a dangerous situation and they want to show us their power. of course, it's their plan, yes. >> were you worried? were you scared when you were taken? >> uh, of course i'm -- of
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course it was scary. but -- but i need to do because my citizens elected me and i must show them that we must help our citizens and they elected me as a mayor from democracy ukraine civilian country. >> you were released ukrainian officials say for nine russian captured soldiers. there was an exchange and prisoners. did you -- did you know that was -- was -- was taking place? did they just let you go? >> yes. i -- i was -- nine soldiers. it's very young soldiers but i think that age -- it don't take any information because the soldiers come to our country to kill our childrens, to kill our
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womens, to kill our civilian peoples in ukraine. that's why soldiers come to ukraine to kill and it's the soldiers. it's not young peoples. >> a replacement mayor was appointed by -- by russian forces. they've taken down the ukrainian flag. they tried to disband the city council. what happens to you now? >> yes, it's was because ukrainian fled because melitopol is ukrainian city. but when they was hold me on second day, they put down the ukrainian flag on central square of melitopol and they show their power for all civilian peoples in melitopol. now, in dangerous situation
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because we have many humanitarian corridors. there are less food in melitopol, less pharmacy, and many medical problems. our team now don't work in melitopol because russian federation, russian soldiers are fully control this situation. but as i spoke with president zelenskyy, he [ inaudible ] melitopol again will be ukrainian city as all cities in ukraine was annexed by russian federation. >> so, what will you do now? where do you go? >> president give me tasks. now, i will work in zaporizhzhia. and the zaporizhzhia. and make all task that give me president. >> what is your message to -- to the ukrainian citizens in melitopol? >> you know, i have messages not for ukrainian peoples in
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melitopol. i have message for all world. all world, european, u.s. world must to understand that it is not far from ukraine and russia federation. and must understand if ukraine can't win this war, russia federation stops war with europe, with many countries of europe. it's why we must be together with -- you must be together on this war and we must, together, [ inaudible ] russia federation. >> finally, what is your message to russian troops? your message to vladimir putin? >> they must understand that we don't want anything from russia federation. we have our country. our democracy country.
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and we don't want something from russia federation. and things that russia federation must not want anything from ukraine. that's why i think that they must be -- live on their home and they are not our problems. >> mayor, thank you for your time. i'm glad you're free. >> thank you. thank you. >> just ahead. a look at the weapons and the courage it is taking for ukrainians in one city to try to overcome russian troops and the cost of that resistance in human lives. his future became my focus. lavender baths always calmed him. so we turned bath time into a business. ♪ and d building it with my son has been my dream job. ♪ at northwestern mutual, our version of financial planning helps you live your dreams today.
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you heard nick paton walsh earlier report on one area in the southern part of the country that so far has been able to re re reclaim villages after successful counter attacks against the russians. but there was a attack on a military base in that same area today. giving you a sense of the damage. claimed what nick called a significant number of killed and injured ukrainian soldiers. details are still difficult to come by. accurate numbers, still difficult to come by. still, it is a reflection, he said, nick said, that when russia loses the fight, they respond with extraordinary blunt force. our ivan watson is near the central part of ukraine where he spoke with ukrainian troops who
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were exacting a heavy toll on russian troops. the resistance there appears to be working, too. but it also comes with great sacrifice. >> it's not so scary to die. it's much more scary to lose. when we met the second army in the world by statistic, we expected more professionals. we expected more aggressive and more strong fighting. your battalion from this. >> it's hitting russian tanks. >> and that's hit by ukrainian artillery. >> yes. >> drone footage that cnn cannot independently verify from battlefields northwest of kyiv. filmed by a battalion of ukraine's territorial defense force, commanded by major sergei -- >> has your battalion had
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casualties? >> yes. >> yes. >> people killed? people wounded? >> yes, i prefer not to tell the number of people but we have -- i -- i lost my friends and people who serve with me. we have people who wounded. >> what is the weapon that is hurting your men? >> the most dangerous it's artillery. >> he is a veteran of the long war against russian-backed separatists in ukraine's southeastern donbas region. he re-enlisted along with most his battalion of nearly 400 after russia invaded ukraine on february 24th. he calls his strategy aggressive resistance. >> just separating small troops, not more than ten people, with few grenade launchers and some kind of -- um -- cleanup group
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with rifles and machine guns. i can say that russian army, regular army infantry groups fight well. they even have food packs which is expired few years ago. so, they don't have normal food. they don't have even water. >> reporter: your battalion -- how many armored vehicles, tanks do you think you've destroyed? >> right now, more than 20. it's not only tanks. it's like tanks and other vehicle. >> does your battalion have an estimate for how many russians they killed? >> for now, we destroy almost 200 russians. captured alive, closer to six or eight soldiers. >> he is recovering from injuries sustained during a combat operation. >> fall down from the bridge which was blowed up.
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half of my ribs are broken. >> reporter: he says his men have started to receive some foreign weapons. shoulder-fired missiles. and he is confident ukraine will have victory but at a terrible price. >> the price which pay ukraine right now is i think impossible. it's -- it's some kind of sacrifice of all nation. >> reporter: ivan watson, cnn, ukraine. >> extraordinary level of detail. we really haven't heard before. thanks to ivan watson for that. up next as ukrainians defend their country from attacks, i will speak to mark hertling on what may come next from the russian forces. ♪ ♪
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russian forces continue their assault on ukraine. new satellite images show the russian military digging in, constructing earthen berms to protect equipment just northwest of kyiv. this comes as lloyd austin tells cnn the u.s. has seen russia make many missteps in the invasion of ukraine. i want to bring in pierce whack who served as former u.s. defense aday sha to russia and now fellow at the wilson center institute. also, former commanding general
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of europe and retired lieutenant general mark hertling. general hertling, it was interesting in this report that ivan watson had with a battalion commander who talked about the heavy price they are inflicting on russians but also that it is taking a very heavy toll on ukrainian forces, as well. and that's something i think that often gets overlooked and -- in the, you know, the understandably, you know, the coverage of the advances that ukrainians are making. it -- it is coming at a price. how long can an army like ukraine's pay that price? >> we're -- we're in a different -- a very difficult part of the campaign, the war between these two states, anderson. but i am going to suggest is russia has been attempting to fight what military calls a battle of annihilation. that's when you attempt to use maneuver to surround an enemy, and cause them to surrender, take their capital. the ukrainian military has been
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fighting a war of attrition. that is a strategy in which both sides are trying to cause as much damage to the enemy as they possibly can. what we've seen right now is that the russian military -- some people used the term culminating -- they are. they are culminating from the offense. they are going onto the defense because they have sustained unbelievably -- many and unexpected casualties so they have to transition to defense. those are the pictures you just saw with the artillery pieces digging in. that's not good because the russian military now becomes s static and they can be attacked. ukraine, on the other hand, they have been attempting to execute an attrition war since the very beginning. they have the advantage of the home turf. they have support of the population. and they can pick and choose the place where they use their active defense to attack the russians. now, ukraine's prepared for this. russia has not. so, what we see now is russia
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going into a defense. continuing to be treated by the ukrainian forces and the way russia is facing that is by attempting to ukrainian civilians so this becomes a battle of how many -- what's the will of the two sides? and how much damage can they sustain before they give up? ukraine's attacking russian soldiers. unfortunately, russian soldiers are attacking the civilian population which is causing just incredible and horrific damages. >> general, i want you to -- to comment on that idea. part of the -- also, the problem in that calculus is the leader of russia doesn't necessarily care about the lives of his own soldiers. whereas obviously, in ukraine, zelenskyy does and knows the importance of keeping the population united and -- and
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motivated. >> russian president -- i -- i -- if i were to hazard a guess is -- is all in. he's been all in from the beginning, and he's drawn deep. there is no negotiation right now that -- that looks acceptable. it's weakness. um, his forces are bogged down. um -- um -- like a river boat gambler, i think that he may again try to double down even more. formations -- even more formations coming in. more redoubled artillery, more rockets. though a lot of the precision munitions are gone. so -- so, this is grim and this is awful for the ukrainians. but there's almost as if there is a mutual stranglehold going on right now and ukrainians have got the russians held as tightly as the russians are trying to hold them.
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and the russians are breaking and the morale is there and they are going to try the firepower. and yes, they are talking about russian reinforcements. we have a term called reinforcing failure in the military. and the word, anderson, is getting out back into the russian ranks, up back into russia. formations may be getting prepared. where are all the wounded going? which is a whole -- you're -- you're -- you know, there are usually double or triple the wounded to those that have die understand combat. s died in combat. so there is a lot going on right now. ukrainians have the russians in a stranglehold, as ugly as it is and have -- and they are going to hang on because general hertling mentioned, they have got the will. they have got the motivation and the morale and the russians have none of that. >> general hertling, do we know much about -- i mean, you talk about the wounded. it's not something we focus much on, on either side of the
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conflict. you know, in the u.s. military, there is this focus on the golden hour, on getting somebody who is wounded off the battlefield and medical care within that hour. and that's essential. i mean, russia -- they don't have those capabilities, do they? >> they do not. and they -- as -- as we ehave talked about so many times, anderson, the logistics train is absolutely horrid in the russian assault. they have not planned for the kind of activity this so-called battle of annihilation with six different axes of advance, you have to support each one of those. you know, you have got to do it with food and fuel and ammo. the one thing we haven't talked about is medical evacuation. they can't bring wounded soldiers back to combat support hospitals either by trucks because the trucks are stuck in those 40-mile convoys that are now being picked off. they also can't use aircraft like medevac helicopters to transport 'em back because ukraine has been so successful in knocking down helicopters
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with stinger missiles. so, what you are probably going to see is the -- the wounded that do get back are -- are in really bad shape, and somehow were prioritized. but what i am going to suggest, anderson, is -- i hate to bring it down to these gory details but medical professionals in the military actually calculate the number of wounded soldiers versus killed soldiers on a conventional battlefield like this. if you can get a wounded soldier back to the aid stations, you -- they have a 20% chance of dying and a 80% chance of living. the russians are not getting soldiers back, so the wounds to dead ratio in the russian force is gonna skyrocket. it's probably gonna be one to two even minor injuries on the battlefield, minor wounds on the battlefield are going to cause death on those russian soldiers. there are not going to be a lot of hospitals, in my view, filled with russian soldiers at the end of this because most of them
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will have been wounded and then died on the battlefield or outright killed. it's just horrific. the -- the -- the kinds of casualties both forces are suffering. but i would suggest the russian forces are suffering much more because they are more visible and visible and prone to these attacks. >> in this way it's like war from the another century. general hertling, general zwack, appreciate it. coming up, video from two american presidents, their support for ukraine. and we'll speak to an american doctor who is risking their lives to treat ukrainians when they leave and inside the country.
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presidents bill clinton and george w. bush went to a ukrainian church in chicago. they wore blue and yellow ribbons and each brought yellow sunflowers, in solidarity with the ukrainian people. chicago is a sister city to kyiv. and tonight a south florida doctor is leading a medical team, racing to save ukrainians. once they cross the border into moldova or risking their own safety to help them. they even bought an ambulance to help. he leads the united medical team and joins me tonight. doctor, can you tell us a little bit about your decision to come to moldova and do whatever you can to help? >> well, i wouldn't call it a decision. it was more like a call to action. when you're sitting back home in the comfort of your home and your environment and see people anywhere literally crying out in pain and you see the pain, the
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suffering, i wouldn't be able to just sit and do nothing. >> you set up along the border in moldova, but you're actually going in and have teams going into ukraine in order to get people who are unable to get over the border themselves and who may have medical need. how did you guys do that? >> there was a large segment that we were starting to learn of individuals that weren't able to make it to the borders. the people that weren't able to make it to the buses or train stations or had any type of modality of being able to exit. these were individuals we understood were the elderly, the frail, the sick, the injured. and at that time, it was a conscious decision that we have to go in and help these individuals. with that put together, a small team of myself, a couple of paramedics, and we went in there basically with word of mouth saying we have some individuals, and this is their location. they've been sick or they've
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been injured. and weld go in and assess, stabilize, treat, and extricate them back to the borders where we would pick up and continue ongoing care and provide additional resources available to them. >> have you ever worked in a situation like this? >> i have been exposed to similar situations in the past. each one is unique in its own right. this in particular is not just dealing with the mass of people that are exiting and the wounded, the destruction that you see. but these people have left their homes with just their shirts on their back. so, aside from injuries, you're talking about people with chronic medical conditions, diabetes, infectious processes, they're leaving with no meds, no money. and of course we know that these situations are improperly controlled and regulated, they'll turn into an acute medical emergency relatively
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quickly. and the situation what's going on in ukraine with limited resources and special medications, these stable conditions are no longer stable. so, we need to get to them and help them as soon as possible. that makes this situation a little bit more unique than others. >> i hope it's okay if i ask you a personal question, and you don't have to answer it if you don't want to. i read that you used to be a businessman and you suffered a very tragic loss of your wife through brain cancer. at a relatively late age in your 40s, you decided to pursue a dream. you went to medical school and became a doctor. it's such an extraordinary thing to have done. do you ever have any regrets? >> none whatsoever. i mean, when we experience, unfortunately, loss of that magnitude, sometimes you take a
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step back and you start reflecting upon your own life. it was important for me to wake up every morning and absolutely love what i was doing. i had a long-time childhood dream of i always wanted to be a doctor when i grew up. and life had its own course, and i was grateful to have a beautiful marriage with my late wife and raise four beautiful children and had a successful business. but i felt my true calling was other than that. and i made that conscious decision that i don't want to be -- god forbid -- on my deathbed and wish i followed my dreams of becoming a physician. when she passed, i picked up my four kids and got accepted to medical school and continued on that path. growing up as well there was another passion. and of course a lot of little kids, they grow up, they want to be policemen, firemen, or want to be a soldier. and after completing medical school, i was grateful for everything that i had. and one of my ways of being able to get back was to serve my country. and it was an honor to do so.
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and i got commissioned as a u.s. naval officer and proudly served. very honored to have been able to do that. so, i think it's important that in life -- and we realize that life is really, really short. one, it's never too late. and two, always follow your dreams. and just seeing what's going on over here, the destruction of this magnitude of the dreams just being ripped away, the loss, the sorrow, the pain, the suffering, i can't just sit by idly. i became a doctor to help those in need. i've had a calling to always be there to somehow help ease pain and suffering. it was a no brainer. >> well, i'm so glad you're there, and i appreciate you talking to us tonight. and to be able to have the skills and be able to save people's lives and help people is an extraordinary thing. thank you. i appreciate it. >> a