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here. was it some sort of mechanical problem? pilot error? if the united states can't be involved in this yet china goes on the offensive against boeing airlines and their technical specifications, that can already complicate a troubled relationship between the u.s. and china. >> absolutely. this is a very significant issue in that regard. thank you. thanks to all of you. "a.c. 360" starts now. good evening and consider this. we still don't know tonight who is leading russia's war on ukraine. in fact, multiple sources tell cnn the u.s. has not been able to determine if russia designated a military commander for the job. in other words, no norman schwarzkopf or tommy franks. no name to put to the bloodiest conflict in europe since the second world war. also we don't know number of russian casualties, which russia's defense ministry hasn't updated in more than two weeks. however, today a horrifying hint.
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>> in washington, meantime. president biden openly pursued a policy revealing what the intelligence community anticipates will happen next in many cases, reiterated warnings of a potential cyber attack against u.s. infrastructure saying magnitude of russia's cyber capacity is fairly consequential and coming. again, a busy night. cnn's sam kylie in kyiv and in dnipro ivan watton and contours of the day first from cnn's alex marquardt. >> reporter: across ukraine -- tonight the sounds and scenes of war. these air raid sirebles in the western sanctuary city of lviv while snow covers debris after russian air strikes destroyed these residential buildings on
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the other side of the country in sumy and in the capital kyiv, an overnight attack on a shopping center, which local officials say killed eight. the besieged port city of mariupol emerging as a critical fight in this war. a ukraine officer tells cnn bombs are falling there every ten minutes. russian forces bombed an art school being used to shelter around 400 people. according to the city council, with a number of casualties still unknown. satellite images show the aftermath of the bombing of that theater where over 1,000 civilians were reportedly sheltering with the russian word for "children" written clearly on the ground. tonight ukraine rejecting a russian ultimatum to surrender this crucial city which stands in the way of connecting western russia to crimea. this is the result of what american and nato officials see as a stalled russian military
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campaign. >> the ukrainians continued to trick his force, and very effective using equipment we provided them. >> reporter: even in the few cities russia has taken like kherson, citizens bravely protesting. this shocking video capturing the moment that peaceful protesters were interrupted by russian gunfire and explosions that left at least one civilian shot and wounded. elsewhere, as the russian forces run into stiff ukrainian resistance, russia has escalated their weaponry. u.s. officials now confirming russian claims it used hypersonic missiles, which fly at five times speed of sound and difficult for missile defense systems to shoot down. >> i think, again, the reason that hez resorting to using these types of weapons is because he's trying to re-establish some momentum. >> reporter: the ukrainian president, volodymyr zelenskyy, is ready to speak directly to president vladimir putin warning of the disastrous consequences of failure.
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>> translator: i think we have to use any format, any chance in order to have a possibility of negotiating, a possibility of talking to putin, but if these attempts fail that would mean that this is a third world war. >> reporter: alex marquardt, cnn at the state department. a lateup date on the mall strike. released drone video purporting to show ukrainian forces using the shopping center to hide rocket launchers and showing systems used in a nearby open space to fire presumably at russian aircraft or missiles before moving to the mall. a cnn team that went to that mall tuesday observed loud outgoing fire in the area. additionally reached out to the ukrainian ministry about the russian assertions and video. sam kylie in kyiv. what are you observing and hearing today? there is still a curfew there. >> reporter: another 36-hour curfew, anderson. imposed last week.
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i think largely because ukrainians then at any rate were trying to get in term of military campaigning and had a substantial push in the east of the city. northern and west of the city. now we've seen a slight change in the use of these long-range ballistic missiles against kyiv. fred plight geitgen out on the as a location, the shopping mall russians claim ukrainians also had been storing some kind of w weaponry or missile launching systems. a few days prior on the ground a mill shot down by ukrainians and hit, the warhead hit a residential area causing extensive damage. we're seeing a switch, because the russians can't reach a lot of these civilian areas with anything other than these long-range ballistic missiles. not able to get at them with the multiple rocket launching systems and even the dumb bombs
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that aircraft are dropping. standing off over longer distance and also hitting more and more very important military targets. notwithstanding what's happening in kyiv. you saw when out here in the west of country, anderson, missile strikes against training camps, against airfields. that has been the center and south of the country, but we are seeing on an almost daily basis these very substantial strikes by ballistic missiles. guided ballistic missiles here in the ukrainian capital. >> kaitlan collins, the latest from president biden on the war and particularly what he expected next from russia. >> reporter: using hypersonic missiles in ukraine. talked about difficult stopping those. basically impossible. a concern they obviously have. also, anderson, here in the united states president biden and top aide warning about potential for cyber attacks saying that putin feels like
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he's backed into a corner and, therefore, more likely to lash out and tonight they seem to have pretty strong concerns about a cyber attack happening. so president biden was speaking with a business roundtable earlier. a lot of ceos telling them private companies here in the unite bolster security and's staying vigilant about possibility of this happening. talked about extent of the capability putin has here. it is fairly consequence and the president says he believes this is likely going to happen. based on what they've seen. we should note the top national security aide for cyber told reporters, no intelligence an attack on critical infrastructure is imminent obviously a primary concerns they have. so president biden was basically likening it to a patriot duty for these companies to make sure they are prepared for something like this to happen. he says the more putin feels backed into the corner, the severity of his actions what they are going to look like in
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response. not just on the ground in ukraine as we've seen, potentially here at home. >> what's the reaction been to the strike on the shopping maal in kyiv? >> reporter: well, here the reaction, immediate reaction, has been a curfew. the reason for that, this is -- troubling, indeed for the ukrainian authorities. goes back to day one of the war. there's a deep concern not just of surveillance by russian drones. not just pre-surveillance trying to the war for selection of tarts but could be active service agents on the ground calling in these strikes. revealing intelligence on the ground that is then being fed back to the russians. there's been, there is increasing evidence that this has been going on. of course, also a great deal of suspicion and tension among ukrainians, a deep foreign journalists.
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russian agents posing as journalists something ukrainians are told to look out for and also people flying drones potentially. basically doing battle damage assessment or worse still selecting targets and then giving those coordinates back to the russian headquarters for these targeting by these very precise missiles. these are different order of missile than we've seen used certainly in the previous weeks and early stages of this war, anderson. >> hmm. kaitlan, latest on the president's upcoming trip to europe? >> reporter: i don't think an overstatement, the most consequential trip he takes while in office. leaving wednesday, going to brussels. a meeting with about 30 heads of state on nato. thursday obviously coming out of that talking about what they talked about today on the phone with the leaders of france, germany, italy, uk, which is brute's tactics putin is using on ukrainian civilians. so then got several more meetings there. also going to go to poland meet with the polish president given
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they've taken in about 2 million refugees since the ins vasion started. the white house says they are hoping to have deliverables coming out of this. concrete takeaways from meetings between heads of state and still finalizing them and not ready yet. i think what you heard from president biden tonight could shine the light on what that looks like, anderson. he said he does not think ukraine needs anymore military wep than they have now as far as capability. u.s. assessments, nato assessments, based and rationale what they need they have and repping wreak havoc on the russian military. ukrainian president zelenskyy says they need the mig jets from poland a no-fly zone. called on a few things the white house are not prepared to do, anderson. >> kaitlan collins, sam kylie. appreciate it. next, my conversation with a ukraine fighter pilot still in the battle long after russia was
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haven't gotten into, the war in the skies. spoke to just before air sometime a fighter pilot in the ukraine air force on stand by when we stoke to him in full flight gear, wearing his helmet to partially hide his identity. we agreed to call him by his call sign, juice. >> where did you get the call sign? sounds like american. >> yeah. it's an american call sign. during my tour in u.s. a few years ago, my friends from california air national guard named me -- because -- because i don't drink alcohol, and every time in -- you know, in the bars, i just asking for some juice. >> the russian air force, all of the military analysts said that the russian air force has not been able to get air supremacy.
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can you just talk a little why that is? >> yeah. they, they are not able to gain full air superiority, but almost. they have almost full air security, because we have limited, limited number of air defense systems. limited number of aircraft, and -- all our systems are pretty old. so we are trying to fly. we do everything what we could. we are trying to do best, and russians have a lot of losses, and -- they have a fear of our air defense. so they are -- they couldn't fly here just -- comfortable for
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them. so we really fight them as well as we could, but unfortunately we couldn't gain power air superiority in our skies. >> so every day you -- to maintain readiness, you stay in your plane on the ground monitoring, monitoring the skies, in order to respond if necessary? >> yeah. so -- i'm sitting just near aircraft or just in the cockpit, and my cohorts, from the radar united nations, they just giving me information about targets, and i'm taking off and intercepting this threats. >> what does the air force need?
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obviously, president zelenskyy talked a lot about trying to close the skies. that involves both russian aircraft but, of course, also russian ballistic missiles, artillery things, which are doing great damage to buildings, and communities across ukraine. >> yeah. so, but maybe about 90% of the damage or destruction in our cities, it's an aviation and missiles. most of, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles. so that why we need to improve our capabilities of our air defense. as both of them, the ground and the air part of this. so we need a petition, grant air defense systems, and we need some other fighter jets to gain
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air superiority, to fight effectively against this threat. as bombers, attack -- cruise missiles, all of this, all of it. >> let me ask you a personal question. what is it like for you to, to be in the midst of this? to be facing this overwhelming force? obviously ukrainian fighters have done very well, and have been mounting an extraordinary defense. how do you feel to be a part of it? >> hmm. it's just my job. i was trained for this. so i was ready for this, for this war. and i was prepared for this war as well as my cohorts. so all of us are ready to fight just with, with our jets.
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with our guns. even just in the field with a rifle. so our people and including me, we are ready to fight russians and we are ready to defend our country. to defend our people in absolutely any ways. but we need, we need tools. it effective tools to do this efficiently. >> juice, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. stay safe. >> thank you. thank you, sir. perspective from general wesley clark cnn military analyst and former supreme allied commander. what's your reaction, general clark? the challenges of the ukrainian air force. even get, them getting up into the air has got to be an incredible risk? i mean, they are, their equipment seems pretty old?
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>> yes. they've got older equipment. got some experienced pilots. they got a lot of courage, and they're doing a great job with limited access they have. that's why they want the migs brought in and no reason we can't collect mig-29s from around the world sold there and getting them in there. if we can supply anti-tank missiles and anti-aircraft guns, we can let ukrainians fly aircraft. they're doing it now. but that's a decision that has to be made, and i think that pressure's building on the white house to make those kinds of decisions, because we have got to be able to help ukraine hold where it is. my ukrainian friends tell me they're running short on ammunition. all of the weapons promised don't come in on time. i don't know whether it's paperwork holdup or whatever in the united states, but there's a lot of frustration in there. they're consuming their ammunition, and especially artillery ammunition at a higher rate than being resupplied and
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they need help and need it badly. this is the best way to prevent the escalation that we're so worried about from mr. putin. finish the war on the ground. got them on the map, now tell you one thing that i'm hearing, a anderson. uk is moving out. sks people on the ground working with ukrainians, identifying russian spotters bringing in the targets. training ukrainians in cross-border sabotage and starting an insurgency in russia. i mean, this is going to get even tougher on putin. and we just got to do this to finish this. we can't let mr. putin sweep over ukraine with all this humanitarian damp and then move on to the next country. so he's -- in a bind and he knows it. >> interesting to see the russians release -- not sure if it was drone surveillance footage or satellite
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surveillance or airplane surveillance footage what they say were rockets being fired from nearby, a mall in kyiv. whether or not, we can't determine exactly what is happening in the video. reached out to ukrainian forces. the very fact russia is able to have eyes on a block-by-block area in kyiv is got to be of great concern to ukrainians. given the amount of fortification they have been putting in, and interesting to hear from sam kylie sort of on the ground concern, legitimate pai paranoia, forward observers on the ground, inside kyiv already? >> yes. they've had infiltration inside ukraine for years. russian agents in there. russians always had agents two, three deep. one known, one working none known and another hasn't been activated at all.
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these people are still there. they've been augmented. probably wagner group people who have infiltrated into kyiv. ukrainians know this, hunting them down. looking for radio signals and other signatures. but also it does show that the russian air network doesn't work that well. they're not able to really integrate their overhead imagery, their uavs and their fighter missions the way that an american outfit could do. >> interesting. >> maybe they'll learn. they're not able to do that. >> general wesley clark, appreciate it. thank you. report potentially thousands of citizens taken by russian troops back to russia and how one family was able to escape shelling and misery in the city and survive.
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russian officials say more than 62,000 residents in mariupol one of the hardest hit cities of the war have been taken to russia. cnn not able to verify that number. first mentioned civilians taken to russia put the number at several thousand and said "forcibly taken." today president zelenskyy says mariupol is reduced to ashes but will survive.
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a ukraine officer told cnn bombs fall there every ten minutes. ivan watson has more now on a family who was able to escape the horrors. >> reporter: children at play frolicking in an arcade meant to host games of laser tag. but these are not normal times. the owners here have turned their children's entertainment business into a makeshift shelter. a place to house dozens of ukrainians who just fled the besieged port city of mariupol. >> the last couple of weeks would be like hell. >> reporter: dmitri and his wife tanya and daughter escaped mariupol on thursday. they endured weeks of russian bombardment from artillery and air strikes. >> each 15, 20 minutes, you can listen the airplane. ta, ta, ta, and sound, ba-boom.
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>> reporter: tanya tkept a journal. nothing's changed she writes. no heat or running water as well. lived in the basement. when they emerged, tanya tool photos and videos of her apartment building pockmarked with bullet holes. unexplained shells in streets. desperate people looting a bomb-damaged store for food. >> no water to drink. >> reporter: they scavenged for drinking water pulling buckets from street sewers. >> ah. taking the water from the rain water. taking the rain, waiting for the rain water. >> reporter: heavy shelling on nearby houses, tanya wrote on march 5th. we went to sleep with the thought how to survive and stay alive. one day a shell exploded near dmitri as he waited for water. >> fell down three in front of us. one guy was without head who was like taking the water. another one in the line was like
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half of a head, and the last one was killed. with my own eyes, three people killed and making a grave for them. >> reporter: making a grave? >> yes. digging, yes. >> reporter: finally all too much. >> the last day i saw my father, because my mother was completely destroyed mentally. like a complete depression sitting in the cellar and hadn't left the cellar since the war just staying inside. unfortunately. the last day i saw my father and he begged me, please, guys. leave. leave somewhere. i don't know where. just escape this, escape this and he was crying. >> reporter: dmitri his wife and daughter jumped in a car with friends and rode 15 hours to escape the siege of mariupol. their parents refused to leave. >> i don't know if i'll see my parents or listen to my parents
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again. i don't know. it's like living from day to day. today we are alive. tomorrow, maybe not. >> reporter: in relative safety of this arcade built to entertain children, the kids welcome the escape from the conflict. i really want to say hello to other children, tanya's 7-year-old daughter said, and i want the war to end quickly. her parents appear haunted clearly traumatized. a call from her mother in mariupol weeping and saying good by, because she fears she will not survive the night. >> ivanwatson joins us now. what they've been through and represents what so many families have been through. what's the latest from mariupol? >> reporter: well, local ukrainian officials say more than 3,000 residents were able to escape today. however, it is a dangerous
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journey that people are making out, in, for the most part in their own privately owned cars, because other local officials say that at least two children are in critical condition. a total of four wounded in two separate incidents of cars that were fleeing that then got caught and came under fire. with fleeing civilians injured. again, two children, critically injured, according to ukrainian officials. as for the fighting. it is continuing. the russian defense ministry issued and ultimatum telling mariupol's, ukrainian defenders to lay down their arms, offering them guarantees of safe passage out of the city. they refused, and continued to fight as one officer told cnn, the struggle for ukrainian, mariupol continues, and he claimed that at least two russian tanks were destroyed in
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the last 24 hours, but the position of those defenders is dire. they are surrounded by a much larger russian force, and we are not seeing signs from ukraine of an effort to break the siege. so the battle, the modern day siege continues, and we simply do not know how many ukrainian civilians are continuing to be hiding in their basements, cowering under this ongoing russian bombardment. >> burying three people waiting in line for water. extraordinary. ivan wants, appreciate it. coming up, photojournalist heidi levine joins us working for the "washington post" imag ways you can't ever forget. she'll share what shshe's seen the last few days througugh her lens's
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last week, i was fortunate enough while in ukraine to speak with a photojournalist. captures pics that are stunning and powerful and also how people are standing together. pleased heidi levine could join us once again. >> thank you for being with us. talk about some images, things you have been seeing. just overall, though, how are
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things in kyiv over the last several days? how has it been working there? >> actually, a lot more missile strikes on the city, and, including this, last night, and i think in general, access is becoming more difficult. especially because so many journalists have been wounded and killed. you know, i just want to get back to, not my problems, with access or my colleagues, but, really, what's going on for the people here in ukraine. i worked on a story about ukraine's women, and i have met incredible women, including my own producer and assistant ola, a great force behind my work, and the team for the "washington post" here. >> you met a woman named doria, also, whose apartment was damped by a -- >> right. >> -- spected russian missile strike. can you talk about her? images, again, so powerful? >> doria is a soldier in
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ukraine's territorial defense force. together with her husband. and when i met her she was at one of the block posts, in uniform, in arms. actually started -- she learned how to use weapons since she was a small child, and then about ten days later when i was covering one of the missile strikes and went on a residential area, she -- she saw me and came up to me and said, you have to come see my apartment. i can't believe that -- that my own apartment was hit. and so i went with her. we climbed to the eighth floor of her apartment building, and it wasn't completely destroyed but definitely a lot of damage, and it's just amazing that you get to see how the war impacts a person's life. >> also met a young woman who's a makeup artist, i think, and a teacher before the invasion?
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>> right. her name is elona. i met her also at a block post, and, she's beautiful. she had beautiful makeup on as well. she had a bubbly personality, and she's also a medic, and she told us that because she's a makeup artist, she's not afraid to touch people or touch their face and even if somebody is wounded. and she just gives a lot of personality to the people around her, too. she has a lot of positive energy. it's not just joining the military, but you have women helping the forces, whether they're volunteering to cook, or help take care of people. volunteer in different ways. i met also an incredible -- woman named victoria at the
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destroyed bridge in irpin who was carrying a small baby. helping a family that was fleeing from irpin. she's been working -- in -- combat since 2015, originally in the east. she also has the experience of working in a burn hospital. and she's actually started to teach how, battlefield medicine, to other new members of the territorial defense force. so, i mean, i've met so many incredible women in the field that it's -- it's amazing. >> we saw some of your pictures also of people making molotov cocktails. that effort began very early on in the invasion and continues. i mean, this is actually -- >> right. >> -- quite an effective weapon
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in this situation? >> almost like a makeshift factory. people are collecting thousands of empty wine bottles and other bottles. it's all so well organized. >> heidi levine, appreciate it. thank you siege. >> thank you so much for having me, and i want to thank everyone that i've met here for letting me into their lives to tell their stories. >> it is a remarkable thing. that you're, that all journalists are able to do in a situation like this. allowed into people's lives at this moment in their lives. >> yes. and actually i mean, i am really grateful that i am able to do this, and very committed to continuing. >> yeah. heidi levine, thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you. more on ukraine coming up. next a historymaking day on
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with an opening statement that started with her personal statement and what she says she'll bring to the court. >> members of this committee, if i am confirmed, i commit to you that i will work productively to support and defend the constitution and this grand experiment of american democracy that has endured over these past 246 years. i have been a judge for nearly a decade now, and i take that responsibility and my duty to be independent very seriously. i decide cases from a neutral posture. i evaluate the facts. and i interpret and apply the law to the facts of the case before me without fear or favor, consistent with my judicial oath. >> and judge jackson serves as a clerk for the man she hopes to replace, retiring justice
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stephen breyer. democrats are touting her qualifications. republicans are questioning her support for left wing groups and record on crime. joining us, congresswoman val demings. watching judge jackson and her opening remarks, how significant and historic was that moment in your mind? >> anderson, it's great to be back with you. let me just say this. we are florida proud. you know w, when i watched judg jackson enter the hearing room, i cannot help but think about every little girl, particularly black girls, i know were inspired by this moment. but quite frankly, every man who is raising a daughter should have been inspired by this very, very historical moment. look, judge jackson has spectacular record and impeccabl impeccable credentials.
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and i know she is prepared for a time such as this. but i've got to tell you, we were florida proud today. and quite frankly, all of america should be proud of this moment. >> you're a former member of law enforcement yourself. i wonder what you make of some of the republican line of attack that judge jackson is essentially soft on crime? >> well, you know, anderson, i think there are senators in that courtroom who have different agendas. but what i can tell you is that whatever their agenda, judge jackson is prepared. look, she was endorsed by the fraternal order of police, which i have been a member, endorsed by the international association of chiefs of police, which i've been a member, endorsed by the national organization of black law enforcement executives, of which i have been a member. so, surely i think that regardless of what agenda some individual senators came with today, i think those endorsements speak very loudly. and let us not forget the fact that she comes from a law
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enforcement family. and so i so appreciate what judge jackson said today about how she applies the law without favor or fear. and i think that she is more than qualified to sit on the bench on the supreme court of the united states. and i'm excited about today and the days ahead. >> you know, in the past, to become the federal judge, she has received bipartisan praise and bipartisan endorsements in the past. does that guarantee, you think, her being -- getting this -- getting this endorsement? >> well, i think judge jackson will do in this confirmation hearing what she has always done. she has earned her way. look, she's done what we say you should do in america, work hard and play by the rules. she has earned this moment, this spot where she is in. so, yes, the senate certainly has seen her before. they've questioned her before. and they've confirmed her, as
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you've indicated, three times, two times unanimously. but i'm sure -- look, this is for the supreme court in the land. i'm sure that she will -- she has gone there this week and will continue to answer the questions set before her regardless of what they are. but i believe that the court, if they look at her record, look at her credentials, look at her experience, and judge her in a fair and impartial way, she will receive confirmation from the senate. >> congressman val demings, appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. you may remember some video that we played a week or two ago in ukraine. a little girl singing "let it go" in a ukrainian bomb shelter. well, she took an even bigger stage over the weekend. we'll bring you that next.
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the darkness tonight from a 7-year-old ukrainian girl named amelia. you may remember earlier this month we showed you amelia singing a popular song, "let it go" while in a bomb shelter in kyiv. here's that moment again. [ singing in foreign language ] >> so sweet. "let it go" from the disney movie "frozen." amelia told a woman in the shelter that she dreamed of being on a big stage. the woman said, why not now in the bomb shelter? that's when she sang. amelia got out of ukraine. she's with her grandmother in poland, and her dream came true to sing on a big stage. here she is singing the ukrainian national anthem at a benefit concert called together with ukraine. [ speaking foreign language ]
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[ speaking foreign language ] [ cheers and applause ] >> well done, amelia. thank you, again. stay with cnn for the latest on ukraine. the news continues. let's hand it over to laura coates and cnn tonight. >> i have a 7-year-old daughter, anderson. that just made my heart sing just now. she's so cute. and her composure to bow at the end. it's unimaginable what these kids have gone through. thank you for your coverage. unbelievable. thank you, everyone. i am laura coates, and welcome to "cn
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