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this is "don lemon tonight." here in ukraine, russia attacks are increasing all over the country. and president biden is confirming russia is using hypersonic missiles. russian forces bombarding a shopping center, killing at least eight people. and in mariupol, bombs are said to be falling every ten minutes.
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>> translator: hard working, honest city of mariupol, being reduced to ashes, but it will survive. >> we're also getting new satellite images showing russian military vehicles in mariupol. you can see smoke rising from burning apartment buildings. phil black has the latest on just how dire the situation has become in the city. >> reporter: between the shelling and air strikes in mariupol, people emerged to do what they can do for the living, and the dead. this man says he hopes these graves are only temporary. that the bodies will be reburied someday. they send much of their time shelterri sheltering in what remains of the buildings and often beneath them. this woman says they have enough
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food and firewood to last a week. around 300,000 people in mariupol are living like this. those without homes are crowding together in large buildings. over the weekend, an arts school with around 400 people inside was bombed and destroyed. this video gives a sense of what these large shelters are like. it's from a theater where around 1,000 or more people were saying. mostly women, children, the elderly. days later, it was blown apart in a suspected air strike. the russian word for children, marked out in huge letters outside, provided no safety. this woman lived across from that theater, and delivered food. she tells us, it's difficult to describe the sympathy she felt for them. they were terrified, always
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afraid of a bomb dropping. this woman lived under russian attack in mariupol for 21 days. this is not just a city, she says, this is my whole life. she survived without power, in freezing conditions, with little food, with eight other members of her family, until the building was hit. they pulled dead neighbors from the rubble, and decided to leave the city. she says she can't imagine life without mariupol. she will return. but now in her burning city, there are lots of people, lots of children under the rubble. others in shelters. the journey out of the city is slow and dangerous. but every day, relatively small numbers are leaving whatever way they can, along what are supposed to be agreed corridors. a local official says some people have been fired upon. others have had their vehicles
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seized as russian checkpoints. the people of mariupol have no good options. stay and endure the horror of russia's bombardment, or leave all they know behind. phil black, cnn, lviv, ukraine. >> all right, phil. now to some of the disturbing video, russian troops opening fire on protesters. this is in the city of kherson. it's hard to watch. ben wedeman joins me now. what are we learning about the attacks on innocent protesters? >> reporter: we've been in touch with a woman who shot some of this video. she said this has been going on every day at noon in kherson,
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occupied by the russians. the only major city occupied by the russians since the beginning of march. they've been going there, chanting go home, basically protesting peacefully against the russians. in the past, sometimes the russian soldiers were shooting in the air. today, they threw stun grenades and fired live ammunition at people in the crowd. we see some video of a man who is bleeding profusely from his leg. but this just shows that even if the russians are iebl to take control of certain areas, the population simply is not accepting their presence. >> and there's conflicting reports about how many russian soldiers have died in the war. what is the latest on that? >> reporter: we have an interesting twist on the story. today, a pro-kremlin tabloid published that 9,861 soldiers
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have been killed in this war. now, that's more than the american estimate of around 7,000. and we've only heard one figure from the russians, that was on march 2nd, that 498 russian soldiers had been killed. so this really drives home the high cost, 9,861 people is far more than the americans lost in iraq and afghanistan combined. it's not even a month. >> we've been talking to so many people here in lviv, who have fled other parts of this country. do you have some new reporting on people helping these refugees, and they need a lot of help, what do you know? >> reporter: we went to a distribution center. ordinary people from across europe have been throwing supplies they've collected from their communities in their cars
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and driving more than 1,000 miles in some cases to bring supplies. we spoke to one woman from france, three times she's come here. and this is just something that the ukrainians are shocked by. >> here it is. >> reporter: sometimes the kindness of strangers comes in boxes and bundles. blankets, food, diapers, bottled water. this woman drove 1,000 miles from france to deliver aid to ukraine. our small town of 2,000 people has already sent three shipments of supplies here, she sells me. michael left his family in london to pitch in at this distribution center in lviv. >> what inspired me to come here, seeing the women and
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children in distress. even the men, seeing them pushed out of their homes, leaving everything behind. i just had to come out and give them help with my two hands and my two feet. and do the best that i can and hopefully it's helping them. >> reporter: lviv's art palace is a hive of activity. taken over by volunteers overcome by a deluge of donations. from ordinary citizens and from abroad, amidst the bitterness of this war, the milk of humankindness hasn't soured. >> we're really thankful, because our pharmacies are empty. >> reporter: those in need come here for help. which goes only so far to dull the pain.
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we feel the support, she says, but without tears, it's impossible to think about my home or my city, kharkiv, which is completely destroyed. even the kindness of strangers can't change that. >> ben, this is extraordinary. and these people have no idea that -- they don't know where they're going to end up. you have an extraordinary amount of people helping them, but this is the biggest humanitarian crisis since world war ii. where will they end up? because they may not ever be able to come back, they may not want to come back. >> reporter: that's the big question. increasingly, i read that the united states is considering facilitating the -- allowing ukrainians to come to the united states. i'll tell you, it's a bit ironic. i covered the 2015 refugee crisis in europe, where we saw the doors shutting for all these
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people coming from the middle east. but this time, the doors are wide open. >> ben, thank you very much. we appreciate it. up next, ukraine's capital city under a strict curfew tonight, in the wake of the destruction of a shopping center. is there any chance of a diplomatic solution in the face of destruction like this? >> i think we have to use any format, any chance in order to have the possibility of negotiating, the possibility of talking to putin. but if these attempts fail, that would mean that this is a third world war. (music throughout)
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i just want to tell you, if you hear that hum in the microphone, it's the sound of a city. it's mechanical equipment at a neighboring building. it's not a siren, just a little buzz you'll hear in the audio. surveillance video capturing the moment a russian missile hit a shopping center in kyiv. at least eight people killed. the russians say it was being used by ukraine to hide rocket launchers. ukraine is dismissing that claim. a member of the ukrainian parliament joins us. the video shows mass destruction. is it safe to return to your home in the capital when the
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curfew ends? >> well, it's nowhere safe here in ukraine. not a single village is out of danger. so kyiv, the same. and i think the reason why they imposed a two-day curfew, i was planning to go back last night, but they introduced this curfew and i had to stay in western ukraine. but the reason they're doing this, apparently some major battles are taking place near kyiv, and they're trying to locate the infiltrating groups sent to kyiv by the russians. >> and ukrainian officials say bombs are falling every ten minutes. but the city just won't surrender, do you expect mariupol to fall? >> the situation in mariupol is just terrifying.
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we're 5:00 a.m. here in ukraine, but i was reading from some letter, a dad sent a boy home on a bus and gave a letter with him, saying the name of this boy is dima. his mother died on march 9th, and there was a scheme of where he buried mom, as a way to keep the memory. the news from mariupol is ter terrifying. we understand it's difficult to get support there, because the city is so much encircled. we will do everything in our power. but we believe we're ready for different scenarios, including the one where we have to fight back for the city.
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>> russian officials say more than 62,000 residents from mariupol have been rescued and taken to russia. they're pushing unfounded claims about mass atrocities by nationalists. but the mariupol city council says the people were taken. what is the truth? >> what we heard twice from the mariupol city mayor, he's a person with a very good reputation among mayors in ukraine. he's trustworthy, he's been studying abroad, and he's in a dire situation right now. i know him personally as well. and i know if he's saying that, then it's based in fact. russians are taking ukrainian citizens from mariupol, taking them to filtration camps, then sent over to distant areas in
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russia, where they're forced to sign papers that they would work for free for two to three years. that's like a gulag or a russian concentration camp. additionally, after that news came through, we learned from another source from donetsk, the russians have taken children, and we don't know where they are. from orphanages, or from people who couldn't help them. and they've just taken the children. we don't know where those ukrainian children are in russia right now. >> and the ukrainian president zelenskyy says he's open to negotiations with putin. do you believe if there's a diplomatic off-ramp that doesn't involve your country giving up
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territory? >> no, i have to be honest. i wish there were. there is nothing more that i want than going back to my life as it was a month ago. but i don't think that is possible. i don't think putin will admit that they're not winning on the ground, except for the situation in mariupol, which is very specific, they're unable to proceed any further in any other region of ukraine. but putin is not the one admitting to the reality. i think he will continue to fight. and i think the solution to this war will be found militarily. not diplomatically. diplomatic solutions are now only working for establishing humanitarian corridors. but even that has very limited success. just yesterday, the russians have opened fire on people evacuating children from mariupol. this is the kind of people we're
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dealing with. opening fire, knowing there were children traveling in these buses. can anyone believe a diplomatic solution can be found with people like this? i appreciate the president doing everything in his power to find this solution. but frankly speaking, i'm afraid we will have to continue the fight in order to save our country and our national interests. >> inna, thank you very much. we appreciate it. stay safe. the russian military, bogged down outside of kyiv. u.s. sources calling moscow's operation disjointed in the face of ukrainian resistance. now, there are fears the war is headed toward a bloody stalemate. nurse mariyam sabo knows a moment this pure...
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with our jets, with our guns, even in the field with a rifle. so our people including me, we're ready to fight russians, and we're ready to defend our country. >> joining me now to discuss, steve hall. a former cia chief of russia operations. also retired general mike -- we're happy to have both of you on. thank you, good evening. general, nato says the ukrainian army has fought russia to a stalemate. why is ukraine fighting better than many analysts expected? >> well, great question, don, thanks. it's very simple, i think. they were very well trained.
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since 2014, through not only the u.s., but the nato training mission that was there in ukraine. they worked at the individual all the way up to the large unit level. we found that we had excellent leadership in the modern era here. and they were very well prepared for this. they knew that this was coming. they prepared for it quite well. planning-wise, equipment-wise, leadership-wise. >> steve, a u.s. official today confirming russia is using unclassified communications. why would they not have stronger classified channels available, and how big of an issue is that? >> well, it's a huge issue, don. obviously they do have better stuff available. but we saw this in 2008 in the georgian war as well, the best laid plans. the russians train and prepare
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for using encrypted communications on the battlefield, but as often as is the case, when things actually get rolling, when you have first contact with enemy forces, a lot of times the first thing that goes is security. and in this case, communication security. it's a big deal, because the ukrainians can pick up or have the ability to pick up the encrypted communications that the russians are not using, and they'll be able to react tactically from what they learn. whether it's on cell phones or unencrypted radios. >> general, sources tell cnn the u.s. has been unable to find out if russia has a dedicated military commander for the campaign. what impact would that have on on operation on this scale?
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>> as we're seeing now, we have three primary pushes into ukraine. one from the north, one from the east, and one from the south. going after various objectives there. it's hard to tell what the main effort is, because they haven't sufficiently weighted it with combat forces or logistical sustainment. an overall commander decides what receives the priority, because everybody can't get the same amount of support. in this case, i think they've tried to do everything equally well, and as it's turned out, they've done everything equally unwell, or equally bad. >> ukraine says they've killed five russian generals so far. any military general being killed in combat is rare, right? what does this tell you about the state of russia's military, general? >> it tells me that the senior
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leaders feel compelled to get up to the front, to lead their troops. this is an indication that they don't have the small unit leadership they need to be effective. i would agree with other ana analysts, bottom line, when things go bad up front, the senior leaders go up and that puts them in harm's way. and a credit for the ukrainians, they've been looking for these guys. not just the generals, but the senior kcolonels and leaders tht they've taken out. it's a stunning number of senior leaders that they've taken out. >> steve, a russian tabloid published and later removed a claim that the russian ministry of defense reported almost 10,000 russian soldiers killed in ukraine, with even more
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wounded. russia has kept a tight grip on any information about the war inside their country. what does it mean to you that it was reported and then deleted. it's an extraordinary number as well. >> yeah, it's a really -- there's no good arnswer for thi on the russian side. either as the russians intimated or came out and said, oh, no, that number is false. we were actually hacked. and some malign force put that information in there. if that's really true, which i doubt, it shows that the russians don't have a lot of control, cyber-wise, over the russian press. which is really nothing more than an instrument of the kremlin, and extremely important to vladimir putin. that would be a bad thing. or if it's actually just a mistake, somebody put it up, then it shows there's a lot of lack of discipline in that particular putin-run newspaper. and a third option is that somebody actually tried to just get that information out there, to leak it from inside. obviously, almost 10,000 dead
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from the russian military is a very bad piece of news for russia. and something that putin would not want the man on the street in russia to hear about. >> steve, general, thank you both. i appreciate it. >> thank you. a lot more straight ahead on the war in ukraine. but we're also following another very important story. judge ketanji brown jackson, the first black woman to be nominated to the supreme court, wraps up day one of her confnfirmation battle. ♪ baby got back by sir mix-a-lot ♪
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today, the senate judiciary committee opening up historic hearings for ketanji brown jackson. if confirmed, she will be the first black woman to sit on the high court. while her confirmation would not have a significant impact on the balance of the court, that is not stopping some republicans from previewing their attacks on her record. watch this. >> i decide cases from a neutral posture. i evaluate the facts, and i interpret and apply the law to the facts of the case before me, without fear or favor, consistent with my judicial oath. i've dedicated my career to ensuring that the words engraved on the front of the supreme
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court building, equal justice under law, are a reality. and not just an ideal. >> republican members of the committee already saying they plan to closely scrutinize judge jackson's judicial record. more tonight from cnn's jessica schneider. >> it appears sometimes this zealous advocacy has gone beyond the pale. >> reporter: republicans rolling out lines of attack against judge jackson on the first day of her hearing. josh hawley talking about how she handed down lighter sentences for child pornography
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offenders than suggested. >> they recommended 119 to 120 months in prison. judge jackson gave the defendant three months in prison. >> reporter: she will likely lay out her reasonings for the lower sentence. senator hawley rejecting one likely argument. >> some may say the guidelines are too harsh. i can't say i agree with that. the amount of child pornography in circulation has exploded in recent years. >> reporter: after his twitter tirade last week, the white house said the sentences in five of the seven cases were the same or greater than what the u.s. probation office recommended. and nationwide, it's become the
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norm to have lower sentences. >> she's not an outlier. she's consistent with the vast majority of judges, and you can see that from the number and type of departures and variances that she includes in her sentences. >> reporter: just last year, a report noted that 59% of the offenders had their sentences downgraded. there had been a steady increase in the percentage of sentences with lower sentences. dick durbin saying senator hawley should be aware of that trend. >> as a matter of fact, if he looks at his own picks for federal judge on the same issue,
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he'll find the same facts. >> reporter: also questioning her time spent. >> you used your time and talent to provide free legal services to help terrorists get out of gitmo and back to the fight. >> reporter: but defense attorneys and former obama administration officials are stepping up to defend her record in that realm. saying she had a duty to provide a vigorous defense. >> i hope you'll see how much i love our country and the constitution and the rights that make us free. >> reporter: republicans are promising to stay away from personal attacks. but the hearings will get a lot more intense tomorrow and wednesday, when the question and answer portion will go on for
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hours. don? >> all right. jessica, thank you very much for that. i want to bring in elliott williams. good evening to you. what are the republicans on the committee trying to signal with these lines of attack? they seem bizarre. >> we'll step back for a second. cory booker used the word joy when talking about this nomination. he was taking a minute to bask in the moment and how special this nomination is for america. and the fact of seeing a black woman up there. before getting into this sort of silly season of the back and forth over the politics, all americans should embrace that fact. to your question as to what republicans are trying to do, they don't have a clear line of attack against the nominee. she has sort of this unimpeachable record as a judge, jurist, and attorney. so it's a broader fight. we heard about critical race theory, crime, child porn, and
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so on. this is not about the nominee, it's about the 2022 and 2024 elections. >> you're a attorney, don't you have to zealously defend your client? >> she's supported by the fraternal order of police, supported by the international association of chiefs of police. these are all big law enforcement organizations. they're seeing something that these senators are not when it comes to who is soft on crime or not. you know, i think this is one where you can trust what police officers have to say. and public defenders and defense attorneys made me and my colleagues do our jobs better. so we should all be grateful for the zealous advocacy of people
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like judge jackson. if you don't like this, go to iran or north korea, where they don't respect the rights of people. >> i want to ask you about a group of retired federal judges writing to the committee tonight in defense of jackson's record on child pornography sentencing. i quote here, judge jackson's record in individual cases is entirely consistent with the nationwide patterns described by the u.s. sentencing commission, and what the doj prosecutors have recommended. what is josh hawley trying to accomplish with these attacks? it just makes him seem really small. >> if you say the words child porn enough times, it's horrific
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conduct. and it gets in people's heads. the simple fact is, it doesn't apply to this nominee in the way that they want it to. when it comes to how many times her cases are overturned, it's 2%, the rate in which her decisions got overturned. that's better than a lot of her colleagues on the court. she's just not an outlier. and like the judges said, her decisions were perfectly in line with other judges. i don't want to make this a rubber stamp for judge jackson. she should answer questions about her record fairly and honestly. but she's just an unimpeachable nominee. >> i agree. but when you bring in these odd claims, representing terrorists, and child, you know, pedophiles, or whatever it is, it starts to get into the qanon conspiracy
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invasion. many ukrainians relocating within the country. millions of other ukrainians, crossing borders out of ukraine. cnn's miguel marquez has more on the refugee crisis in romania. >> reporter: her two teen daughters and her father arrived last night. our beautiful parks, our beautiful square, she says, everything is ruined. from kharkiv, a city punished by russian artillery and rockets, a school teacher has some savings but not much. their three-day journey brought them to this shelter run by the city of bucharest. i'm shocked war is possible in 2022, she says, everything was good. i could walk with my friends. i love my home city. it was very difficult to leave. sofia's sister says it's hard to
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believe their lives have been thrown into such enormous uncertainty. >> i really miss my house, my country, my city. and i hope that this war is going to finish. >> reporter: andre, a furniture maker, had his own business. he is here with his wife, kids. in all, a family of eight and their chihuahua, bruno. do you know when you will go home? >> good question. >> a friend sent video of what their home now looks like. >> this is your home? >> it's my home. this is my room. bedroom. >> bedroom. >> it's my bedroom. >> reporter: unlivable. the entire neighborhood, destroyed by possibly a rocket or artillery fire. nothing to go back to. at 60 years old, are you starting over again?
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i don't want to, he says, but i have to. his son is in florida. the family has inquired about visas to travel to the u.s., but so far -- we haven't tried to apply for visas, he says. his wife adds, my son sent several messages to embassies and to people in washington, d.c. the message they got back? america does not accept refugees for now. the biden administration looking for ways to speed up applications. for now, world vision is helping these refugees in tens of thousands more in romania alone. their needs, deepening. >> the people that are coming now. these people really, really need help and there are a lot of people. we were at the border and i was at the border. i talked to a lot of people that didn't have any money, any plan.
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>> reporter: julia and her 8-year-old son david, named for david beckham, from kyiv arrived two weeks ago. when you decided to leave, how long did you have to pack? >> well, i had around three hours. >> three hours? >> yes. yes. yes. >> reporter: a few bags, documents, and family photos. who is this? >> it's me ten years ago. >> she calls her mother in kyiv every morning. >> is like hello, mom, are you okay? and we talk and talking, she saying yes it seems like it's -- it's been quiet, and then speaking to my husband and my friends. >> like a full-time job? >> full-time job. but you -- you have to be sure that everyone is okay because it's nothing for sure now. nothing. >> reporter: she wants to go home. but when? when do you think you can go home?
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>> only god knows when. nobody knows. >> reporter: miguel marquez, cnn, bucharest. all right. miguel, thank you very much. and thank you for watching, everyone. our live coverage continues right after the break with hala gorani. re. aspercreme arthritis. full prescription-strength? reduces inflammatition? thank the gods. don't thank them too soon. kick pain in the aspercreme.
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