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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com a significant part of the through line in tonight's performance in the war in ukraine is in the face of defenders of overwhelming odds. tonight, with the war entering its second month, the outgoing forces are still holding their own and then some. according to a senior american defense official, they've pushed russian troops as much as 22 miles farther away from eastern kyiv than just yesterday. according to nato officials, they have taken the lives of as many as 15,000 russian forces. they have, of course, paid a large price as well. more than 900 civilians have now

died, according to the u.n., with that number expected to now rise significantly. the number of military casualties is not clear but is said to be considerable, as the report by ivan watson in the last hour from a ukrainian cemetery illustrated. the ukrainians remain significantly outgunned in the air. ukrainian pilots are more than answering the call. >> reporter: counted out early in the war but still going strong. against all the odds, russia has not managed to ground ukraine's air force. we spoke to fighter pilot andrei, who was in an undisclosed location and hiding his identity for safety locations. >> translator: at first, russian pilots dominated in quantity of fighters and equipment. now they're starting to refuse to fly because we're shooting

them. >> reporter: he flies an su-27 air superiority fighter. this is video provided by the ukrainian military of the same model, an older plane, but one that's still effective. >> translator: i shot down russian claims. unfortunately i cannot say which and how many and how exactly i shot them down. air missiles, ground-to-air missiles were repeatedly fired at me. there was a flight when we flew three against 24. it means our three fighters repelled the attack of their 24 aircraft. it's impossible for us to verify those claims, but during our interview, we heard what seemed to be a ukrainian jet taking off. andry says the u.s. helped teach him and his fellow airmen how to beat the russians. >> translator: we had our tactics. we conducted the clear sky exercise with our american friends. we are now using some of the

tactics we learned from the americans. >> reporter: the u.s. and its allies initially believed russia would own the skies over ukraine just days after their invasion. but the spokesman for ukraine's air force says they were ready. >> translator: we've been preparing for this scenario for eight years. it cannot be said that our military did not think this would happen. we've destroyed 100 aircraft and 123 helicopters already. >> reporter: a lot of russian aircraft have been taken down by shoulder-launched missiles supplied by western allies. but the ukrainians still separate longer range systems like the s-300. the air force spokesman says ukraine wants western missiles and u.s. jets. >> translator: i'm talking about nato integrated air defense systems and f-15 eagle, f-16 fighting falcon. they may be unused or decommissioned ones, but they could serve the ukrainian military.

>> reporter: for andry, the battle for the skies over ukraine is personal. both his mother and his wife are helping in the effort to fend off the russians, he says, and that he too is willing to sacrifice. >> translator: everyone's afraid of being killed. it's one thing to die with honor. another thing is to die without honor. >> reporter: the u.s. has said ukraine's air force remains largely intact and combat ready. the battle for the skies, another area where this outgunned nation is persevering against all odds. >> fred pleitgen joins us from kyiv. >> reporter: you're right, i would say it is. andre was saying at the beginning you have the entire russian military coming at you with russia's massive air force and the modern planes the russians have. and of course the ukrainians

felt they didn't have a chance. one of the things he said they had seen with the training they got with the americans really helps them. they say what they do now is they don't just fly to try to go up and get the russians. they analyze everything. they come up with a strategy. they don't get pulled into moves. they doll feel more and more sure. however, of course, one of the things we have to point out, the russians have a lot more planes, a lot more modern planes. and there is big attrition among the ukrainian air force as well. while they hold up now, they say it's not something that's going to go on forever unless of course they get some kind of help. we've been talking about, the u.s. has been talking about a no fly zone is not something in the cards. the biden administration has pointed that out. but the ukrainians have said

they believe they need jets in some way, shape, or form in order to keep up with the job that has so far been pretty successful. next to ben wedeman, covering conflicts very few conflicts has. he's in lviv. it's good to have you with us, ben, tonight. we've had a lot of conversations like this over the years about conflicts. what are your impressions of what we have seen thus far in ukraine of where the war is? >> well, anderson, let me preface what i have to say with this. as a child and then as a journalist, i've covered or lived through about two dozen wars. i covered the blood bath that was iraq, the slaughter house that was syria, where we've seen more than half a million people killed. but what makes this conflict different is the danger in poses to becoming something much wider. you have two major powers, the u.s. and russia, on opposite

sides. the proximity of this war to nato poses huge dangers. the implications of this conflict -- and of course i've covered the middle east for many years. for instance, it's now planting season in the ukraine for wheat and other grains. countries in the middle east depend on grain from ukraine and russia to survive. if the wheat isn't planted, you could have bread riots across the middle east. if you thought we had supply chain problems as a result of covid, this war will dwarf what we've seen after covid. so, really it's just the scale and the potential danger of this conflict that really sets it apart from all the other conflicts i've covered or lived through. >> i mean, you've also seen what russia is capable of through proxy forces or directly through their own forces.

and that's obviously weighed over, you know, all the options of what may happen next from the russian side. >> yes. and all you have to do is speak to anybody in syria who's been on the receiving end of russian fire power or fire power used by close allies of the russians, the syrian regime. and it is brutal. it is indiscriminate. and it -- it's just -- it's hell on earth if you think of what happened in places like aleppo, a city i used to live in. and i think people in the middle east who have experienced this are watching closely what's happening in ukraine and saying, deja vu. >> ben wedeman, i really appreciate it tonight. thank you, ben, appreciate it. joining us now is james

spider marks, and william cohen. general marks, a senior u.s. defense official said today russian forces are, quote, digging in in their established defense positions in the north of kyiv's city center. strategically what does that tell you, and do you think ukrainian forces are going to be able to keep control of kyiv? >> what it tells you is that the russian offensive is stalled. we've been kind of describing that for a couple of days. they're in transition to a defensive position, which has really given the ukrainian forces an opportunity to take the fight to the russians. the longer question truly is can ukrainians continue to hold kyiv? the short answer is in the short term, absolutely, when you look at the aggregate weight of all the logistics and control problems that the russians are experiencing. so, the ukrainians have re-established the initiative. and that will inject that force,

the ukrainian forces with enthusiasm and a real desire beyond what we've already demonstrated. and it certainly gives the citizens of kyiv only breathing space. >> secretary cohen, reporting we have in the last hour from the "new york times" this evening saying that the biden administration has assembled tiger teams, what they call them, at the white house from all different branches of government to kind of game out what would happen in the event that russia did use a chemical, biological, or even a nuclear option in ukraine. and how significant -- how important are those kind of meetings? and also, i mean, if there is, say, a chemical attack, which might be the most -- the most obvious or the most likely -- what are the options to respond to that? >> well, we -- i listened to ben wedeman just a moment ago. and he pointed out the danger that we're now all facing.

to the extent that the russians decide to use chemical weapons, i think they will have crossed a threshold plus not to mention the nuclear issue, which i'll talk about in a moment. but to the extent they were to use chemical weapons on the ukrainian people, i think they've crossed a threshold at that point where it's not just nato that should be concerned about this. but every country in the world needs to be concerned about what putin himself is doing. to the extent he uses chemical weapons, what is our reaction. that's what the tiger team is trying to plan out now, to war game it out, so to speak. what would be our level of comfort if he were to do that? how many people would he then kill? how would we see that? all of these questions would then appeal to the emotional reaction of those in the west. the question is what do we do? would we then, in turn, say under these circumstances i guess i'm going to start providing aircraft to the ukrainian air force and make sure they get control of the skies? what other things can we do to

really impose punishment on the russians? but i really believed this for some time. we have come to the point where there needs to be some outside intervention. there is no one that's going to go to putin in the russian chain of command to say, mr. president, you made a mistake. so, he's sitting at a desk, which gets longer and longer every day. they may have to add a wing on to the kremlin to make it even longer in the future to keep people away from him. that is a very dangerous point in time as well. but we need outside help from the russians, the chinese, and the indians, two big powers that buy weapons from russia or buy oil from russia. they need to intervene and get to mr. putin and say this can't go on because you're endangering us. >> general marks, ukrainian officials believe belarus could join russia in its war against

ukraine. would that really impact the battlefield that much? do you know much about the belarus forces? >> i don't think it would impact it at all. in fact, it may be negative value to the russian forces. the belarusian forces are not very large. they're not sophisticated. their equipment is older generation, older tanks, old erin fa er infantry fighting vehicles. we had a great show about six weeks ago where the russians and the belarusians were training together. was that coalition warfare with combined arms and a joint force? it wasn't. so, if you were to inject belarusian forces into this fight, i would think the russian forces, the primary concern they would have is we're going to get shot by these belarusians. this is a significant concern. if belarusians are going to be injected, if i was a russian commander, i would start very, very precise planning and demarcation and unit separation

because i'd be concerned about what these guys bring to the fight. >> i just want to ask you about former secretary of state madeleine albright. she died today, it was announced. you served together in the clinton administration. how do you think he should be remembered? >> well, i knew secretary albright for almost 50 years. we were very, very close friends. i knew her as a woman of great passion, intelligence, commitment to democracy. she and i helped to edit a study that was done under the institute of peace and the national holocaust museum here in washington, preventing genocide. and going through and analyzing what has taken place in the past and how we prevent it going forward. we're seeing a classic case of what putin is doing at this point by leveling cities. he's driven out 10 million people out of their homes who have no place to go. so, i would remember her as a fierce advocate for democracy. and i would say she's also a

happy warrior. she loved what she was doing. and frankly i loved being in her company and sharing evenings with her here at home with our families. she was an extraordinary woman and has made a great contribution to diplomacy in this country. >> extraordinary arc to her life as well. secretary cohen, thank you. general marks as well. coming up, how years of president biden's experience could influence the nato summit getting underway. we'll be joined by two writers deeply versed on the man in this moment. the question is any of it making them squeezed enough to pressure vladimir putin. that and more ahead. ok at what you've saved, what you'll need, and help you b build a flexible plan n for cash flw designed to last. so youou can go from saving.. to living. if i go to sleep right now, i can get more.... four hours. that's not good. what is time? time. time is just a construct.

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experienced the flavor of such moments before, as the vice president and before that as a long-serving senator. i want to talk about the president and this moment with susan glasser, staff writer at the new yorker and cnn contributor. susan, how consequential is this summit for the president? >> yeah, you know, anderson, i just -- i've been wracking my brain to think of what's even an example of a comparable moment of a u.s. president going into a summit with war literally on the borders of nato itself. i think it's almost without a script. you have to reach back to perhaps george w. bush and 9/11 and the aftermath of that in terms of the consequences, the kinds of decisions president biden has to make right now. i'm struck by the fact he has just been insistent throughout this crisis in making alliances and partnership with europe the

foundation of his approach to russia in this crisis. so, it's probably the most important moment i can think of. >> evan, president biden ran in part on his foreign policy credentials. it's certainly something he prides himself on. early on he was being criticized in this in the run-up to the invasion for not being proactive enough. and yet, in the end, his ability to bring a unified nato to bear in the conflict has certainly -- i mean, it's -- it's been working. the unification has surprised russia. >> yeah, i think that is the name of the game now, unification, because the longer this goes on, the more important it becomes to shore up this unity, this sense of unanimity across, let's face it, 30 member states. and, you know, there is this natural tendency to say, well, the united states needs to be

out front, always out front. that has to be something balanced joe biden has believed for a long time. in a case like this, you have to let the european politicians, the european leaders, talk to their own people on their own terms, explain to them why it is this is important. if the united states is seen to be leading them around, that actually generates more resistance than it does cooperation. what you're likely to see in the next couple of days is an effort like that, try to make it clear this is as much a european initiative, as much an initiative of u.s. allies as it is something coming out of washington. >> do you think he can continue to keep nato members unified? >> there are different approaches here. germany has been historically more reliant on russian gas supplies, but even just today you saw the chancellor of germany saying, wait a minute, we're not going to ban russian energy imports to germany right now because that would be too punitive on the german people.

and that's a different approach than some of the other nato allies and the united states itself. there are fissures, and you'll see russia working to exploit them. that's a playbook out of the soviet era, in which there was years of effectively dividing western europeans from the united states. we're still in the shock moment, i think of the, you know, just one month into this war. it's a crisis that has revealed a lot of business that europe preferred to ignore, a lot of problems with russia that they chose not to fix. and so i think in this crisis moment, there's still the opportunity probably to change course for president biden and to move the europeans more than he might have been able to do earlier. >> evan, though, in terms of options, they -- i'm not sure how many more, from sanctions or what the next step would be for trying to ratchet up the pressure on russia. >> yeah, part of this, anderson, is about not just the short term. and you will see some measures

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want to show you a video of an encounter in turkey earlier this week. it shows a group reported to be young ukrainians carrying ukrainian flags and no war signs blocking a yacht from docking. just one example of how the kind of attention sanctions have drawn to the wealth of these russian elites. joined by brook harrington, profres sor of sociology at

dartmouth university. also the author of "capital without borders." we saw that video just played showing the yacht being protested. how much of a factor is social stigma to these oligarchs? >> i think it's a huge and kind of underappreciated factor. and before o-brohm vich was sanked anywhere, he was making noises about selling his prized chelsea football club, but donating the proceeds to helping the ukrainians. >> "the wall street journal" is reporting president zelenskyy asked president biden and others not to sanction him because he could be a valuable go-between. do you think that's something that could be effective at getting vladimir putin's ear? how much power do these

oligarchs still have? >> i don't think the oligarchs have the power to tell vladimir putin what to do. that's not their role. but i trust that president zelenskyy knows what he's doing. and i imagine, if i could try to put myself in his shoes, that he might find him a useful go between because he has lived a long period now in the west. and he might be able to sort of translate this thing that seems very hard for putin to understand, which is why this group of people he considers russians, that is the ukrainians, why would they want to join the eu? why they want to be part of nato? why they want to live like a western democracy instead of like russians? >> the oligarchs are facing incredible financial pressure abroad. can sanctions, you think, i mean, compel them in any kind of way to really change events in

ukraine or to try to affect russian foreign policy. as you say, they don't really have much power over vladimir putin. >> i think the sanctions have a different function. i'm not sure anyone really believes that putin is taking advice from any of his oligarchs. rather, what the sanctions have functioned to do is two things. one is they've made putin himself look weak by causing a split between him and his right-hand man. because as soon as the sanctions were announced, you had people writing these very carefully worded sort of mild public statements saying, gosh, i really wish russia weren't invading ukraine right now, stuff that wouldn't even bat an eyelash in most western countries, which are a sign of

the incredible brazenness and audacity from one of putin's oligarchs. it shows he has not kept an iron grip on his men, so to speak. and that's deadly to someone who is trying to project an image of being an all-powerful strong man. it shows he's not invincible. the other thing is that if you remember from the panama papers six years ago, one of the things they showed was that putin keeps a lot of his personal wealth bring proxy in the names of these oligarchs offshore. so, it's very possible that these sanctions, which appear to be freezing and seizing the assets of oligarchs are actually freezing and seizing the assets of vladimir putin himself. >> is it still easy for, you know, oligarchs at this level to hide their money in a world where these sanctions have, you know, been installed? >> there are dozens of tax

havens in the world, and it's almost certain that some of them will be happy to roll out the red carpet for a russian oligarch's wealth. however, one of the things that allows russian oligarchs to be influential in the west, which is their entire purpose, is to have their money in respectable places. nobody wants to just be rich. they want to be rich and respectable. so, these oligarchs, they want to be able to say, oh, yes, i have my swiss wealth manager and i have my holdings in monaco. now they can't say that anymore because those tax havens are expelling russian holdings and contributing to the seizure and sanctioning of these oligarchs. it's like they've been expelled from paradise. >> thank you, really appreciate it. after escaping with her family, one pianist is using the gift of music to inspire other refugees. cnn's miguel marquez has her story next. ♪

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of these charts and documents, i sent to jail because i know how serious this crime is. >> senator hawley's questions revealed jackson's fatigue with an issue that was relevant only to a handful of cases in her >> senator, what i regret is that in a hearing about my qualifications to be a justice on the supreme court we've spent a lot of time focusing on this small subset of my sentences. >> committee chairman dick durbin admonished his republican colleagues for their talking points appearing to appeal to movements like qanon which pedals false conspiracies about democrats and pedophiles.

cruz, jackson's harvard law school classmate made news with his question about upcoming affirmative action case going before the justice's next term where harvard is a defendant. >> you're on the board of overseers of harvard. if confirmed do you intend to recuse from his lawsuit? >> that is my plan, senator. >> reporter: democratic lawmakers again using much of their time to allow jackson to talk about her record and the historic nature of her nomination. >> i do consider myself having been born in 1970 to be the first generation to benefit from the civil rights movement. >> reporter: she wiped away tears as she listened to senator booker. >> when that final vote happens and you were sent onto the -- onto the highest court in the land, i'm going to rejoice. and i'm going to tell you right now, the greatest country in the

world, the united states of america, will be better because of you. >> reporter: the committee is expected to vote on advancing jackson's nomination on april 4th with a full floor vote expected before the easter recess. but as of right now it's not clear jackson will receive any republican support. senator cornyn says he's not inclined to vote for her nomination. senator graham who less than a year ago voted to confirm her as a circuit judge also appears a likely no vote. as for other potential likely supporters they either say they're still thinking about it or they won't say anything at all, meaning, anderson, this could be one of the closest supreme court confirmation votes in u.s. history. >> paul areid, appreciate it. another night of intense bombardment on ukraine's capital kyiv. with each new day comes the remarkable resilience of the ukrainian people who have not given up their fight for

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ukrainians are now four weeks into this attack on their country. four weeks of fighting and four weeks of dying. four weeks of fear and of resolve. that resolve is something we have all witnessed first-hand. we've all seen it on our screens all around the world. a team from cnn heroes put together a number of images in -- in recognition of the resolve that we have all been witnessing to the tune of john legend's "never break." >> we volunteer because we know it's our home here. ♪ we've got a good thing, babe

whenever life is hard ♪ ♪ who knows about tomorrow we don't know what's in the stars i just know i'll always follow ♪ ♪ the light in your heart ♪ >> it's a full-fledged war and in a very difficult situation we all resist and we'll continue to resist. ♪ we will never break, we will never break build a foundation strong enough to stay ♪ ♪ we will never break as the water rises and the mountains shake all will remain ♪ ♪ we will never break no, no, never ♪ >> everybody wants to be independent, to be free.

♪ we will never break build on a foundation strong enough to stay ♪ >> we have hope. >> trust me we're not one. there are a lot of people fighting. ♪ we will never, no, no never we will never, no, no never we will never, no ♪

>> if you're wondering how you can help the humanitarian situation in ukraine you can go to cnn.com/impact. the news continues. want to turn things over to don who's in ukraine tonight. don? >> it's very appropriate you played that just before you came to me, anderson, because i have a story for you. you sat in the same place i sat. we were out to dinner and people were in the restaurant and having drinks. and when volodymyr zelenskyy, the president of ukraine, gave his speech tonight everyone in the restaurant stood up, they turned the volume up on the

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