trying to decide whether it's worth questioning the supreme court justice's wife. a pretty amazing moment we're in where this is even under consideration, but there are 29, 28 more text messages where the one i just shared came from. thank you so much for joining us, you can watch "outfront" anytime on cnn go, ac 360 starts now. good evening, there are potential signs tonight of what could be a change in russian after aims in ukraine, even as the definite signs of trouble for russian forces on the ground are piling up. remember, a day ago, russia's foreign ministry said the war was going according to plan, well today a top russian general shifted focus away from that plan which, by the way was vladimir putin's stated plan toward more limited goals. the question now, is he moving the goal post? we'll ask our correspondents and military analysts in the two hours ahead. first, though, new video from inside the theater in mariupol that russian forces hit, the

same theater with the russian word for children written big enough on both sides of it to be seen from space. in addition to learning from an adviser that mariupol's mayor that as many as 900 people may have been sheltering there at the time, also have video we subtitled just moments after the strike . the adviser to mariupol's mayor today said approximately 300 people were killed in that attack based on the information from city officials acknowledging the number of people using the theater, 300

people they say. vladimir putin spoke out as well today and to hear him tell that western sanctions are not about punishing aggression or the barbarity of it, instead, about something else entirely. >> translator: children's book writer j.k. rowling was canceled because the books that spread further and wide with hundreds of millions of copies did not please the fans of gender freedoms. today they're trying to cancel a whole thousand-year-old country, our people. >> he's putting this on cancel culture. today he also signed a new law prohibiting the diseminfdisemination what it deems false information abroad, president biden mean time in poland dining with members of the 82nd airborne in military staging area, expressing gratitude for their role on nato's eastern frontier. >> i came for one simple reason,

not a joke, to say thank you. thank you, thank you for your service. thank you for who you are. and thank you for what you're doing. and as my grandfather would say, every time i walked out of his house he would yell joe, keep the faith. >> my grandmother would yell, all kidding aside, this is serious, yell spread it. you're spreading the faith. >> well, this next person we want you to meet is certainly spreading the faith. a pianist named alex outside the train station in lviv, video was taken saturday when an air raid siren you'll hear in the background began, police asked everyone to move inside. alex didn't budge. he just played louder. ♪

like so many of his fellow ukrainians, whether physically or spiritually, he could not be budged. we have live reports tonight from cnn's frederik pleitgen in kyiv, ben in odesa. >> reporter: showing off like trophies, russian tanks captured or destroyed in battle. small victories in a bigger, bloodier war. west of kyiv, this drone footage shows horrific after math of heavy fighting, russian forces dug into defensive positions around the capitol city. according to senior u.s. defense official, their progress stalled by a determined ukrainian resistance. >> wenever, ever go to the knee

better we die. >> reporter: russian attacks intensify from the air, showing a strike on ukrainian fuel depot near kyiv, russia has been un -- >> in time to attack during this aggression. they hoped that the invasion of ukraine would be a walk over. >> reporter: an attack destroyed russian warship in berdyansk as ukrainian forces hit back on russian forces in some places, russia perhaps moving its goal posts, general saying the first stage of the operation is nearing completion, so far as 1,151 russian troops killed, a number a lot lower than the 15,000 nato officials estimate. forces now will focus on liberating part of southeast ukraine controlled by russian-backed separatist.

>> translator: the combat potential of armed forces of ukr ukraine make it much more capable for the liberation of donbas. >> reporter: video now emerging from the attack in mariupol, an adviser to the mayor says about 300 people were killed while sheltering inside when the russians bombed the building. 600 survived, the adviser says. even as the russian word for children was written outside. russia denies targeting the building. elsewhere in the city, video showing makeshift graves on a residential block near a playground. u.s. now believes russia is running low on air cruise missiles and their positions failing at rates from 20 to 60%. despite russian claims of not targeting civilians, new video shows the moment a strike hit a line of people waiting for humanitarian aid in kharkiv,

near the russian border. regional governor says six people were killed. russia's invasion looking more and more like a scorched earth campaign in places as western countries fear other types of weapons. >> in the use of chemical weapons or nuclear weapons, will totally change the nature of the war in ukraine. it will be absolutely unacceptable. >> reporter: oren liebermann, cnn at the pentagon. >> have to underscore at the beginning of that report, ukraine's president zelenskyy tonight said more than 15,000 russian troops killed since the war began. cnn cannot independently confirm that, with that to correspondent starting with fred pleitgen in kyiv, general saying the first phase of the war is over, does that match what you've seen in kyiv, in your opinion, a purposeful change in goal post or just a change in public messaging? >> reporter: well, no, certainly it seems to us the russians are on the back foot, especially here in kyiv. you know, some of the things

you're hearing from that russian general, i mean clearly, in the early days of the war, you know, when, for instance, i was in belgorad on the russian side of the border were certainly saying they wanted to take kharkiv on the other side of the border, at the beginning said they already penetrated the first defense of kharkiv, also sent a bunch of troops to get to the center of kyiv obviously then repelled by the ukrainian military so certainly seems as though from our vantage point here and also what the ukrainians are saying as well is that the russians simply haven't achieved a lot of the aims they have and seem to be retrospectively trying to move the goal post, if you listen to the things the general said he said look, in essence, going around kyiv here with the large force, places like kharkiv with a large force was simply a ploy to make sure that the ukrainian military can't amass around the donbas, then the russians, you know, why would they expend so many russian lives to do that? why would they lose so much russian military hardware around

kyiv, around kharkiv, that in this self should raise some questions if that was the case among the russian military and russian military leaders. then you look at the current situation, anderson, if the russians are saying that they are essential just going after the donbas, they are still surrounding the town of chernihiv and shelling that town, a town slobuche near the nuclear reactor surrounded and shelled, you obviously have kharkiv where civilians are being attacked and mariupol as well, where we have of course that devastating humanitarian situation so certainly from our vantage point difficult to explain the rugs saying the only thing they're after is the donbas and it's been that way ask that's been their strategy the entire time, anderson. >> ben you, are in odesa tonight, the russians essentially, saying now it is the south and southeast which will be the focus. what are you seeing and hearing in odesa tonight? >> well tonight we did hear a

burst of antiaircraft fire coming from within the city. it's not clear whether there was something incoming, a plane, or what, but that does appear to have passed. the city, however, is on edge. odesa is ukraine's most important port and sometimes there are russian ships visible just up, off shore, usually they lurk right over the horizon. so people are nervous here. there are russian forces just about 2 1/2 hours drive to the east of here. their advance toward odesa has been stopped according to the british ministry of defense because of what they say russian forces suffering from logistical problems, as well as fairly stiff resistance from a strategic city blocking them, mykolayiv, that has, it's now the situation there is calm but there was some intense fighting

just on the outskirts of that city, so at the moment, odesa is safe, but as i said, on edge, anderson. >> fred, ukrainian president zelenskyy issued new messages on social media today. what was he trying to get across? >> >> reporter: well he was essentially trying to get across that the russians are failing and basically appealing to the russians to stop all of this because of all the losses they're essentially taking. some of it you're mentioning, he was saying for the first time, russians had over 16,000 killed in action. that's according to ukrainian figures, of course, impossible for us to independently verify that. i think also interesting he was talking about some very senior officers also being lost as well. we talked about the fact that six russian generals have now essentially been confirmed to have been killed, even though the russians don't acknowledge all of that. also, of course, the deputy commander of the russian black sea fleet who is also someone who played very important roles in the russian military as well.

so obviously, volodomyr zelenskyy paying tribute to that and telling the russians you are failing here and your military is falling apart. the russians, of course, not acknowledging very much of that, the russian defense ministry came forward today, only the second time that they've actually acknowledged casualty figures saying around 1,300 killed is what they're acknowledging so far, obviously, the ukrainians and u.s. and allies saying it is a lot more than that, anderson. >> ben, what are you learning about what is happening in the southern city of kherson? >> reporter: okay, this city, the only major city the russian forces have been able to occupy on the sea of asov. what we're hearing is that u.s. officials are saying that they believe that that city is now contested, no longer fully under russian control, but cnn was able to get in touch with four residents who dispute that claim. one resident who, of course, we can't name for their safety, suggesting that they saw what appeared to be russian soldiers

looking around, looking to buy vegetables, but this is a town where there have been daily protests against the russian occupation. a few days ago, in fact, russian forces opened fire on those demonstrations and today, we understand that some residents actually put the ukrainian flag on city hall. >> yeah, showing that picture, it's extraordinary. fred, the ukraine military what have they been saying on a strike on uair force command center in western ukraine. >> reporter: it seems the russians are trying to debilitate the air force command, which still seems to remain effective and intact. you've done great interviews with ukrainian pilots still very much in the skies and challenging those russian forces. we were in touch with some of the folks of that town called

anetzia and says six cruise missiles were involved, two of those missiles shot down by air defense systems but there were several missiles which did hit that air force command headquarters, said therwas substantial damage, also alarms, air sirens going off for the better part of this day ask didn't stop well into the evening hours so a big strike, one of two big strikes the russians conducted today, anderson, there was another one on a fuel depepot russians say e biggest fuel depot, they hit with a caliber cruise missile just south of kyiv and, you know, one last thing, we also did hear a lot of air raid sirens today in the ukrainian capitol and a lot of what we believe to be outgoing antiaircraft fire and surface to missile air fire as well, anderson. coming next, speak with

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aren't targeting civilians and you told me it was special military operation which is i know what the kremlin military censorship demands. it is a war and an invasion and we are all watching it all over global television no matter what you tell your own people. there are so many civilian targets that it's hard to count them right now. and, you know, you may deny it, but even the chinese, dmitry, even the chinese who are your friends have expressed a very, very deep concern about civilian targets. the real question is what is president putin's strategic goal in blasting the civilian infrastructure of places like mariupol, which we are watching turn to smithereens for the last several weeks now, what's the strategic goal? >> well the strategic goal is to clear up the mariupol from nationalistic regiments who are

there in heavily covered environment and by the way, they are simply not letting people out from this, from the town. and this is a problem. because now, we are seeing lots of refugees coming from there and they simply tell us, they're eye witnesses, they simply tell us that they were used like a shield. >> joins us now, na nadya talenkova, served prison time in siberia for criticizing vladimir putin, thank you for being with us. when you hear putin's spokesman there just lying so smoothly, what goes through your mind? >> it makes me want to puke. i hate him so much. so much in my life, it's triggering to even watch him. i never watch russian television

because it's just too hard to see how they lie to their own people. my own family members back in russia who believe there are no civilians targeted by russian military. they just held people hostages, putin, and peskov, held people hostages and lie to them. >> you have family members who believe what putin is saying? >> my step brother, but there is not much you can do, because you show them pictures from mariupol, from kharkiv, from kyiv, they just say it's fake news and propaganda from the west. >> the protests that we've seen in russia, it's extraordinary to see so many people going out in the streets, in small ways, in some small acts of protest, even. and in some, you know, holding up signs, being arrested i'm wondering what you were hearing from friends there about the

protest. is -- does it make you hopeful at all? >> it's direct opposite of what i feel when i see peskov, makes me feel proud and hopeful, i'm full of love for russian people and really grateful for those who actually separate these days, russians from russian government news. it really hurts that putin destroys not just ukraine but russia. i see protesters, i see the future for my country and we'll have to work for years to come in order to, you know, rebuild our reputation that we just destroyed because we were not able to get rid of putin in time. and what you need to understand about russian protesters, there are so much more people that want to protest but they cannot just because they are not ready to go to jail for 15 years, not everyone is as brave as that or

have family responsibilities and just cannot show up in the streets or simply tweet because even tweeting, sharing a story or post can bring you to jail for up to 15 years. >> it was odd to hear vladimir putin today complaining about so-called cancel culture in the west and comparing himself to j.k. rowling, i mean, it's surreal. >> it's nuts. but it's something we've been dealing with for the last 20 years. it's just, it is -- i felt actually so much like, some people who didn't react to putin strong enough the last 20 years because, you know, this war he started. he didn't start it yesterday, he started in 2014 and all this entire terrible machine of propaganda, to say it's for

peace, like in famous orwell novel, it's something we've been witnessing for the last some 30 years, and, you know, definitely as strong as to date, witnessing it since 2014 and it just hurts me to see that president putin, his regime, his power is agonizing, hurting so many people including my friend who was just murdered in kyiv. >> i want to ask you about her, because you mentioned her oxanna bolina was her name, killed in a shelling incident while working in kyiv, i want to show our viewers, tweet yesterday said 2017, alalexei nava all, ny still has freedom, those who laugh, love, those who fight and know to never be scared.

that is the people -- i mean, all those qualities are things vladimir putin is scared about? >> it hurts me so much. i can't even -- i can't kpremd how just one person can cause so much pain to the whole community and i deeply, i'm deeply sorry that we're not able to get him out of power earlier. oxanna is an amazing person i know for years and she's working at foundation against corruption with regina just sentenced to nine years in jail. that's been nuts. day before yesterday i heard my friend serviced nine years in jail, served two years in jail already, was poisoned before, two years before that, my husband, and father of my daughter was poisoned almost to

death and two days ago i've heard that my friend oxanna died and i'm honestly just scared to open my phone and look at the news because i'm terrified at getting more terrible news. father of my daughter is journalist and founder of and cofounder of a media outlet that putin blocked it two weeks ago for covering the war but my ex-husband in is ukraine right now, in kyiv, and me and my daughter, are terrified because, you know, the shelling from russian army. >> nadya, i so appreciate talking to you and it's so important. your voice is so important and i'm sorry for all the losses that you are able to count on your hands. it's sickening and unfair. nadya tolokonnikova, thank you so much.

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ukrainian forces have been making. for instance, at a check point like this one, you do see a lot more vehicle traffic than, for instance, we have been seeing over the past couple of days. there's more cars going through here. nevertheless, of course, the situation remains very dangerous with russia saying they hit a fuel depot just south of the ukrainian capitol and in general, of course, fighting still going on not very far from where we are. >> that's fred pleitgen in kyiv, join said now by retired military general mark kertley, general zuac, you know, you hear, the generals saying we'll be focusing now in the southeast, that's clearly where they had the most successes thus far. what do you make of that, is that an actual shift or them just claiming on one place where they at least seem to be taking

cities? >> anderson, i think they're changing the narrative because, and it's been bloody and brutal but they've been roundly defeated in this first round. and, you know, there's that term, you know, you can't paint lipstick on a pig, and they're doing it now. they're saying that the kyiv thing was never the main objective. i believe that they've wanted in the first few days to decapitate the zelenskyy government, put in a proxy, and then focus on the donbas and then possibly work off the coast. but they've been so, so incompetent and so underestimated ukrainian resolve that started with the president on that first night, that they, no, they've changed the narrative. and a lot of this is to save face in their own country. putin needs to have a credible narrative for his people, why thousands of people are coming back in body bags and that will

be the liberation of the donbas and maybe connecting to crimea and new russia. >> general kertling, do you agree? >> i do, and i'll say a little bit differently. you had a campaign plan, and as i understand the announcement came that they were going into the second phase of their operation because the first phase had been successful. if you're talking about the president being banished from the world stage, their economy starting to be in ruins, the destruction of close to two combined arms armies with over, you know, 2,000 vehicles and probably by the time this is all over, more than 20,000 dead soldiers to include by tonight's count, seven dead generals, you know, it's a pretty bold strategy to say you've succeeded in phase one and you're about to transfer to phase two after you've wrapped 190,000 russian

soldiers around a front that was 1,400 miles long and then say yeah, what we really wanted to do was go into the donbas, an area they already had a stalemate in. it's just beyond belief. it's laughable, and it shows that not only is putin incompetent as a strategist, but his generals must be really sycophantic in terms of comedic display of support like this, it doesn't coincide with any military plan or strategy i've seen before and definitely doesn't have one as an instinct. i would also say, one of the things as they were attempting to destroy ukraine's army, well ukraine's army is currently destroying them in places like north of kyiv in kherson, in kharkiv, the counter-offensive going on, in mykolayiv, so every place they attempted to make

gains, they are now being sucked into a vacuum and i think by the end of this, we're going to see an awful lot of dead russian soldiers and an awful lot of russian prisoners of war before this is all over. >> general ziack, the idea of them calling up russian enforcements in former soviet georgia, in georgia, that clearly is not a good sign of things going well for the russians if they're calling in reenforcements from russia. >> totally agree with you anderson. there, plus or minus, maybe 10,000 if you call russian peacekeepers in south chechya, and asovia, the legal break-away states in 2008, in my mind, yeah they do peacekeeping but not particularly well combat trained and probably take five or six thousand of that 10 and send them and that isn't going to

sway the fight in any major way, as well as the so-called syrians out there or the chechnians that will just aggravate and intensify ukrainian resistance and then there are the belarusians that people keep talking about. if they come, that will probably bring down the lukashenko regime. >> general hertling, zwack, thank you, i'll take you to a hospital in ukraine where they have to use sand bags to protect the windows and the baby, some two years old. you'll hear from these kids ahead.

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the invasion of ukraine is taking a heavy toll on some of the wars most innocent victims, kids. unicef spokesperson said the most critical need for ukrainian children is safety, this as more killed and another 105 injured. yesterday i spoke with cnn international correspondent ivan watson who visited a children's hospital, children's ward at a hospital in zaporizhzhia where many of the injured kids are getting medical care. tonight, ivan has another report from that hospital, able to talk to some of the staff and children including a little girl wounded by a russian soldier. here's the story.

>> reporter: 11-year-old milyana ulrayava lies in hospital, nine days after a russian soldier shot her through the face, horribly wounded yet quick to show off how she can count in english. >> one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. >> reporter: she can't speak loudly, her mother alyena explains. she has a bullet wound to her jaw and the base of her tongue, she says. the bullet was lodged in her throat near her carotid artery. she does gymnastics, she's going to show me a couple of videos. this was milyana before russia invaded ukraine. flipping, and dancing. but now, she can barely walk. we met milyana here in a bomb shelter of a vacant children's

hospital. the nurses say six or seven time as day and night, due to air raid sirens, they have bring these new borns, all who have medical complications in and out of this room for hours at a time for their safety. the window is protected by sandbags. on march 16th, ilyena, two daughters and mother in law fled from the ukrainian port city of mariupol after enduring weeks of russian bombardment, jumping into the back of a car with two strangers to escape. they navigated many russian military checkpoints and then, at around noon, ilyena says, they made a turn towards the t town, and ran into russian soldiers who opened fire on the car without warning. >> translator: we started turning and they started firing on us with submachine guns, then the driver stopped, we walked out with hands up, after which

they were shouting something, we did not know what and that is when we saw what happened to my daughter, the younger one. we took her out of the car as she was wounded. >> reporter: her mother says realizing their mistake, the russian soldiers gave her daughter first aid and sent her to a nearby hospital in the russian occupied town of tukmak, a redcross vehicle later brought her to this hospital for life-saving surgery. the hospital has treated nine wounded children in the last two weeks. what injuries are you seeing now? >> different injuries, different trauma. it's head trauma, it's a amputation trauma, medical amputation, it's bullets trauma. >> reporter: dr. ivan menikin says she is stable and will hopefully now live, long term

without debilitating injuries. >> she has difficult psychological status, different sounds. >> reporter: her mother has a message for the soldiers who shot her daughter. >> translator: go back home. why are they here? they are mercenaries who don't care about us, don't care about the situation in this country or this war. they don't care who they are shooting at. >> reporter: as for milyena, she shows photos of her cats and looks forward to one day going back to doing gymnastics. ivan watson, cnn, zaporizhzhia, ukraine. >> so many families like her's still in ukraine, saying 3.7 million people have left the country, more than half a million escaping to nearby romania, miguel joining us now, united states says they'll allow 100,000 ukrainian refugees into the to u.s., i know you spoke to

a family where you are, what do they tell you about trying to obtain visas? >> reporter: that they can't get them quite yet, you know, lots and lots of refugees we spoke to would love to go to the u.s. and would love to be able to apply for those visas but aren't able to do it yet. probably in the days ahead will be some process where they will be able to but many are already applying for visas to other places. we spoke to one women who has four kids from 13 to six years old and her husband. they are in romania today. they're almost all the way through the visa process now for canada so they think they'll be going soon. you know, the way she puts it, they just knew at one point it was time to leave. >> translator: it's difficult for the kids. they really want to talk to their friends. but the situation as it is, we are moving on. >> reporter: and that simple

sentence, we are moving on. it's something we had not heard a lot in the past few weeks because most refugees we speak to say they want to return, they think they'll return very soon, but now there is that sinking realization among so many of them that even if they want to return, there may not be much to return to, the sort of story you heard that ivan just reported. they want to avoid that for the kids so they're literally coming to the reality that it is time to move on and figure out a new chapter in their life, despite knowing no one in canada that looks like they'll probably be there in the next few weeks. >> it's got to be so hard for officials in poland or romania where you are to plan ahead because it's so hard to figure out how long this will go on, how many more refugees will come across. what kind of planning is being put in place? >> reporter: yeah. it is -- it's nearly impossible. and they're putting a lot of effort into creating bed space

right now in case they get another big wave of refugees, that's one concern, the number of internal refugees in ukraine if the war continues to head west and those refugees start to come across, they want some place to put them very quickly, but beyond that, the ones that are staying, while they were, for a while, moving on to other countries, now the whole sort of system is backing up. they are starting to stay in romania so everything from language classes to healthcare, to education, to jobs, to long-term housing, all these things with, they're starting to wrestle with in places like brokshof, towns and cities in places all throughout romania. >> thank, we turn to washington with the fall-out of text mingles from supreme court wife of justice clarence thomas, what they could mean from the january 6th prprobe and questions there next.

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breaking news tonight, members of the january 6th select committee are deciding whether to call jenny thomas before the panel. the committee has nearly 30 text messages between mrs. thomas and mark meadows. she repeatedly encouraged him to fight to overturn the 2020 election results. ryan nobles asks about her ethical questions in key rulings. >> reporter: no thank you. that was the response from supreme court justice clarence thomas today when asked by cnn to respond to the bombshell revelation of texts between his wife and former white house chief of staff mark meadows. meadows, also still not responding to cnn requests. the revelations coming in a series of texts obtained by cnn and in the hands of the january 6th select committee. on november 10, shortly after news networks had declared joe biden the winner, thomas wrote

meadows, quote, help this great president stand firm, mark. she went on to say, the majority knows biden and the left is attempting the greatest heist of our history. thomas also pushed meadows to get behind the dubious effort by conservative lawyer sidney powell to overturn the election. writing, sounds like sidney and her team are getting inundated with evidence of fraud. release the kraken. it is these type of texts that could cause problems for justice thomas. he weighed in on one case arguing the court should overturn the election results in four states. >> the problem is it creates an enormous appearance of impropriety that justice thomas is ruling on these issues when his wife is intimately involved in the underlying facts. >> jay thomas is a long-time outs

outspoken conservative activist. while insisting her work is separate from her husband's they have a close personal relationship. >> my wife is totally my best friend. >> reporter: and now iz had wife is under scrutiny, justice thomas casting a dissenting vote, allowing the committee investigating january 6th to gain access to thousands of white house documents that trump tried to keep secret. several democratic senators, including ron wyden of oregon, calling on thomas to recuse himself going forward on all matters related to january 6th. at the bear minimum, justice thomas needs to recuse himself from any case related to the january 6th investigation. and should donald trump run again, any case related to the 2024 election. clarence thomas, who left the hospital on friday, recovering from an infection, declined to talk to cnn. but he still has the backing of republicans in congress. >> i think justice thomas could make these decisions like he's made them every other time. it's his decision based upon

law. >> ryan nobles joins us now. i can't believe she was using the term release the kraken seriously to the chief of staff of the white house at the time. the committee is discussing whether or not to call jenny thomas before the panel. what do we know about that? >> anderson, we know right now there's a vigorous debate amongst members of the committee privately as to how they should handle this information from jenny thomas. keep in mind, these texts they've had for several months and have basically done nothing with. they've decided not to subpoena her or call her before the committee voluntarily. but now that it's come to light, this debate has somewhat reignited within the committee, as they try and figure out the path forward. the concern with the committee right now is they aren't sure the information jenny thomas has would be specifically relevant to their investigation. because she's such a prominent figure, married to a sitting supreme court justice, that it could bring a ton of attention upon the committee that would distract from their overall mission.

still there are some members that still want to make that happen, others that are reluctant. this is a debate that will probably continue next week when the house returns to session. >> ryan nobles, thanks. we're live in kyiv when we come back with a possible turning point in russia's war in ukraine or at least what the russians are claiming may be phase two. plus the mysterious group of mercenaries that may be helping the kremlin from inside ukraine. that's coming up.

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