tv Don Lemon Tonight CNN March 25, 2022 7:00pm-8:00pm PDT
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moved he played the video you just saw at his london concert this week. stay with cnn from the latest from ukraine. the news continues. want to turn things over to don lemon tonight. don? >> anderson, i've been glued to your program especially watching your conversations on vladimir putin and this absurd attempt to try to connect what he is doing to ukraine or with how the world begins to cancel culture. it is just bizarre, and anyone who claims cancel culture should probably take a look at that because they may not want to do it anymore considering someone like putin is now claiming that in this ungodly war against ukraine. >> yeah, it certainly seems a bizarre turn for the leader of a warring nation right now to be talking about j.k. rowling, i don't know. >> but here we are. anderson, have a good weekend. i'll see you soon. take care. this is don lemon tonight and i am here in western ukraine
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in lviv, and our breaking news tonight, a top russian general claims what he calls the first stage of russia's military plan is completed, and russia will now focus on, quote, the liberation of donbas in eastern ukraine. russian forces digging in to defensive positions on the outskirts of kyiv and no longer trying to move on the ground towards the capital. that is according to a senior u.s. defense official. they're still attacking the city from the air like this assault today on the biggest oil depot near kyiv. take a look at your screen now. vladimir putin wanted to take kyiv quickly. he did not. ukraine stopped him. now is he moving the goal posts? that's the question. that as president joe biden will meet with refugees in poland and give a major address tomorrow. he talked to u.s. troops today and he had a message for the world. >> the question is we're going to prevail. democracy is going to prevail and the values we share or
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autocracies is going to be prevail. and that's really what's at stake. >> and we have some new video tonight of the moments after one of the worst russian attacks of this war. the attack last week on that theater in mariupol where hundreds of people were taking shelter. you see survivors trying to make their way down the stairs. they're covered with rubble, holes in the wall. officials say 600 people survived, 300 were killed. those who died mostly on the upper floor. and you remember this is the same theer that had the word children spelled out in russian outside in letters literally visible from the sky. the u.n. says it has what it calls increasing information corroborating the existence of mass graves in mariupol. they estimate one of the graves holds the remains of about 200 people. in the kherson region a russian general killed in fighting, that
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according to the ukrainian army. six russian generalerize believed to have been killed as the invasion began. kherson may not be as solidly in russian control as it was. there are reports of resistance in areas that had been under russian control and going onto say, quote, we would argue that it's actually contested territory again. let's bring in now cnn's frederick pleitgen. he's live for us in kyiv and phil mattingly in warsaw. tonight russia, fred, is claiming that the first phase of the war is over. the focus will shift to eastern ukraine. what is the reaction there in the capital city? >> well, certainly the folks in the capital city and also ukrainian leaders think this whole notion the russian leaders never really wanted to enter kyiv and basically were just trying to press the military so they couldn't amass there is
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absolutely laughable. they believe very much so the russians tried to enter kyiv. in fact there are columns of russian vehicles close to entering kyiv especially in the early stages of the war, and then you'll remember that very long column of vehicles that was coming towards the capital city that was then attacked by ukrainian forces. and also the russians moving in from two regions trying to go encircle the city from the northwest and northeast and stop on both occasions. the ukrainians are saying, look, the russians tried to take the city, tried to enter the city and were repelled by a ukrainian force that was outgunned, but they simply believe they were smarter than the russians in all this and also were fighting harder than the russians as well. if you look what's going on still in the capital city, it's not like the russian forces have still disappeared, and they are still here and very close to the city. they would move back somewhat and certainly appeared to be on the back foot. there's still pretty heavy fighting going on especially look at the outskirts of the city towards the northwest and this video you're showing right
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now, don, that is really emblematic of all that. that is irpin. that's a suburb of kyiv towards the northwest. you can see this drone footage flying across everything destroyed there. we spoke to the mayor of irpin over the past couple of days, and he's been telling us that there is still massive shelling going on by the russians even as the ukrainians say they're trying to press them and are having some success at pushing them back, don. >> and fred, a u.s. official says russian forces have stopped moving toward kyiv but air attacks, long-range strikes still happening as you said. they're there, on the back foot but still happening. what does this mean for the residents there? >> well, first of all, i would say that that is fairly accurate to the description of what we've been witnessing throughout the course of the day. and certainly seems as though on the ground for the people here it has become a little more calm. i was in the city center today at the midan in independence
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square. there's still a tank barrier setup there and of course check points around the city. there did seem to be few people on the streets, coffee shops opening not just yet but there are people coming back out. and you can feel there are people who believe they have that little room to breathe. you were alluding to the fact the russians are still using these standoff weapons as the u.s. calls them, longer range weapons. there was of course that attack on the fuel depot that took place just to the south of kyiv the russians say they conducted with a caliber use missile. and we did have air-raid sirens going off the better part of a day and also surface-to-air missiles being launched or what we believe surface-to-air missiles, those typical noises you hear when those were launched. that seems to be a pretty accurate description. we're on the ground here. more people are coming out. they do feel confident, but sternly a dangerous situation and very much a war footing the
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city is on, don. >> traveling with president in poland tonight. we saw him with american troops not far from ukraine's border. he is putting this fight in clear terms asking whether democracy or autocracies prevail. tell us more about what we saw today. >> don, this is the lens through which the president has really framed his presidency from the very beginning, and yet i don't think he ever imagined there would be such a visual and searing example of exactly what he was talking about as he is seeing it this moment. and it was interesting how he has laid this out to the troops that were gathered to listen to him today during his visit, troops from the 82nd airborne division deployed as kind of the tip of the spear for u.s. forces in nato -- nato allies inside the country of poland, and the president making clear it's not just about ukraine at this moment. it's so much bigger. take a listen. >> what you're engaging in is much more than just whether or
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not you can alleviate the pain and suffering of the people of ukraine. we're in a new phase, new generation. we're at an inflection point. >> reporter: and don, just interesting because you realize the men and women sitting in front of him who were deployed to poland at this point are mostly preparing for russia, and what's happening in eastern europe right now and had president making the point this is just a broader moment in time, an inflection point, if you will. and it's going to be something you're going to hear in detail from the president tomorrow. scheduled to give what aides are calling a significant speech about this moment in time, the urgency, the stakes and why the world particularly western democracies need to stick together. it's been kind of a through line the last several days but the president wants to lay it out in detail the next couple of hours, don. >> he seemed today be receive well by the troops there, also talking about his son beau, very personal for him.
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>> reporter: yeah, there's no question about it. and look, this is -- if you go back to winning as vice president he would often fly into afghanistan, chairman of the senate foreign relations committee with he was vice president. he would often fly into baghdad as well. he's been to war zones, visit with troops and they make clear both because of his son beau who obviously passed away from brain cancer who served but also recognizing what it's like for the families back home to anybody deployed in a war zone or a nato country to serve as a kind of deterrence factor, meeting them and shaking their hands. i think more importantly you heard that kind of 30,000 foot level from that sound we just plied, but more than anything else he was thanking them, the volunteer military when 99% of the country is doing what their doing, volunteered to be out there they're owed more of debt of gratitude than anybody else, and i think that's what he was
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trying to convoy today. >> thank you both very much. appreciate that. now i want to bring in cnn military analyst and retired air force colonel cedric leighton. a month ago the u.s. believed kyiv could fall in days and now a senior u.s. defense official is saying ground movements towards the capital have stopped. is this a shift in strategy? >> well, it's at least a shift in tactics, don. good evening. it's one of those areas where if you look at everything that goes around kyiv, there are going to be a lot of different changes, so let's take a little closer look here. you notice some of the things that used to be out here and some of the russian troop replacements have now moved back, and that very fact is indicative of at least ukrainians gaining ground, gaining traction. you know, this is not over by a long shot, but what the russians are doing is changing their tactics and could portend at least a shift in strategy, not a complete change in strategy but
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at least a shift in what their immediate objectives are. i think their long-term objectives are still basically the same, though. >> interesting today. top russian general today signaling they're now focusing on, quote, liberating eastern ukraine. is russia moving the goal post here, changing the definition of exactly what a victory is? >> yes, i think they are, don, because of what they originally had was movements, you know, toward kyiv. they had movements of course towards the south right in this area, and movements in the east and of course we can't forget about kharkiv, the second city of ukraine. so all of these areas were areas of movement for the russians as they had in essence fronts in each of these areas. and they had -- they were fighting battles in each of these areas. but what really ended up happening is they got stalled out especially at their major objective. everything they tried to do in kyiv which was trying to
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surround the city, that did not happen. kharkiv, also tried to surround that, that did not happen. i believe one of their initial goals was to go to the city of dnipro and that did not happen. they're threatening it from the air and with standoff weapons but they're not threatening it with troops on the ground. they did achieve some of their objectives in this area right in the southeast along the sea. they were able to do some of that and you mention kherson. and it's pretty clear that city right now is actually a contested city and also where one of the russian generals was apparently killed. the latest one in a series of russian generals to have laid down their life in this i think at the moment at least futile battle for ukraine. >> what would regaining even parts of kherson mean for ukraine? >> so when you look at that, this is going to be very
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interesting because if they regain even parts of this, this is where kherson is, that means any advance to odesa, which is the major port city, will be stalled out because they need kherpson in order to go to the west and also in order to go north. and notice mykolaiv, that was also a city that was contested. now it appears to be almost completely in ukrainian hands. so with all of that, it's clear that even in the most successful front that the russians had, the southern front, they are not gaining. they're not moving forward in the direction that they wanted to, so there's a significant change in what they're doing. so that means they're concentrating on areas that are in this part -- this part of ukraine. and this is where they are going to do everything right now. this is their center of gravity. not the real center of gravity, but that's the center of all
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their efforts. >> got it. we're getting new satellite images showing that ship that ukrainian forces sank yesterday, that the u.s. says russia has 22 ships in the black sea but say they haven't seen a move on odesa yet. how much of a threat do these ships present? >> let me just show the image real quick of the ship that was sunk. this is the alligator class amphibious ship, and it's right where it got hit right near some oil storage tanks. so that is an area that is not usable by the russian naval forces. but when you have a bunch of ships array here in the black sea toward odesa, these are combatant ships. they're surface combatants and amphibious ships. 50 surface combaddants and the rest are amphibious ships like the ones that were sunk. these do pose a threat. even though there's an issue for the russians when it comes to land warfare, they're still
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dangerous because they're out here in the black sea, they're at a point where they could potentially blockade odesa and also at a point where they could cut off any resupply efforts that come from a nato country, and that right there is a nato country that's rominnia. so those are areas that are of concern still to the people in odesa and the commanders, ukrainian commanders on the ground there. >> great information, colonel. thank you. we really appreciate it. >> you bet, don. absolutely. an american taken by russian soldiers as he tried to flee the war in ukraine free tonight. his parents and senator amy klobuchar who helped get him out, they all join me next. nuit. it listens, learns, adapts and ananticipates your every need. with intelligence... that feels anything but artificial. the eqs from mercedes-benz. it's the car electric has been waiting for.
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quin and minnesota senator amy klobuchar who worked to get tyler released. he is a minnesota native. you have been busy and a lot going on in the senate, so congratulations on that. hello mom and dad. we had you on and wished this turned out and best, and it did. and we're so happy for you. you must be relieved. when did you learn that tyler was safe and free? >> about 5:00 this evening when i got a call he had landed and was in a nato country, so i was ecstatic. >> i bet you were. you got to facetime him. how did he sound? how did he look? what did he tell you? >> he looked really tired, but he looked really good, too. you could hear the relief in his voice and just knowing that he was safe. he was just completely ecstatic about being able to be with his
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wife and just having that stress go off of him was huge for -- for him himself. >> john i have to ask you what has this whole ordeal bip like for you? how are you feeling now that tyler is free? >> it's been probably one of the craziest things i've ever endured. from the time we found out that they were letting him go until the time today we found out that he was in safe hands, it was -- it was a roller coaster. it was up and down. the hurdles that we had to get over to get him to safety, and previous to that not knowing what kind of conditions he was in, it was heart breaking knowing your son was enduring something you had no control over. and you don't want that wished upon any parent. >> did he talk about his treatment in custody? >> he did. he said they were treating him
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very well there. he had no complaints at all about how he was treated. so that was a good thing. i was glad to hear that after the fact. >> senator, it's good to see, you know, our elected officials helping out especially in this particular situation. you and your team were very critical in this. how did you track tyler down and get him to safety? >> well, first this was all about tina and john. his parents never gave up and never let us give up. and what we did was actually work with our embassy in moskow, and i think a lot of people don't know this but we actually have a u.s. ambassador in moskow, ambassador sullivan, who's been there the entire time. and i talked to him. he'd been to minnesota. he'd actually been to winona where tyler's from for a hockey camp for his daughter. and we had a conversation not
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just with him. he knew all the details and brought it to the russians along with other matters that i think we were in the news early in this week. and in the middle of allhouse of this horrific war, which you're right in the middle of, don, i want you to stay safe there. i was not too far away on the polish border a few weeks ago, but you were right there. in the middle of all this the state department took the time to find this american, and we're just so grateful for what the ambassador did and what tyler's parents -- i love them. thank you. i cannot wait to meet tyler. i think tina is planning some big reunion with us. it's one moment of joy in a really hard week. >> well, take lots of pictures and share them with us, please. john, i have to ask you when do you expect tyler and his wife and daughter will be home and reunited with the rest of the family? >> that's going to take some time. we don't know specifically how
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much time. the attorneys have told us it's going to be some length of time. it's just unspecified at the moment. the best things go along. >> senator, president biden was in poland today and you mentioned you were there just a couple weeks ago. the u.s. has pledged $1 billion in humanitarian aid, more sanctions against russia. but president volodymyr zelenskyy wants jets and tanks. should that go to ukraine, too? >> i think what you're seeing right now is a major ramping up of the weapons, don, from the 100 switchblade drones to 800 more stingers just last week to thousands more javelins. and having been meeting with the 82nd airborne just like the president did, i'm sure i know what he saw. and that there's a lot of things that aren't all public that are
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going on right now in the aid not just from america but military help from our nato allies. it's really quite an incredible effort. and i think right now one of the main goals, of course, is the humanitarian aid to the towns that have been hit the hardest. you've seen those refugees flowing over the border, making sure that they have homes, the polish people and people in neighboring countries have been just incredible. and i think one of the things that vladimir putin did not expect was these crippling sanctions as well as the military aid that is coming into the country. and i think those determinations, i've said many times including on cnn here, i don't think we should give vladimir putin a road map to everything we're providing. but clearly a lot of aid is being provided right now. >> tina, i've got to give you the last word. you know, what has it been since we talked two weeks or so?
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i know this has been an emotional roller coaster. what will it be like to hug your son again? >> it can't be any better than when i heard his voice for the first time. it sounded like angels singing in my ear hearing his voice. it's going to be astronomical the feelings that are going to flow through me when i get to give my son a hug for the first time. >> it's so nice to be able to report some good news, tina. i can hear your voice cracking, and thank you. i'm so happy for you, and forget we're on tv right now. i'm so happy. i thought about you so much after that. i told you i'm a mama's boy so i can't imagine what you were dealing with, but i know the strengths of moms and prayers of moms and how that gets things done. so congratulations to you. john, you as well.
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president biden in poland today shoring up the western alliance in the face of russia's invasion of ukraine. that as nato has announced key troop movements to its eastern flank amid worries the conflict could spill over. joining me now to discuss is the president of the eurasia group. putin wanted to fracture and weaken nato, and instead his invasion united the alliance and now is bringing tens of thousands of troops closer to his borders. from a western perspective that looks like a failure but do you think he sees it that way? >> i think he does see it that way. at the very least we know how angry he has been with his senior military leadership. so that means that the news of his performance is getting through to him. i mean, there's always a danger when you have a leader that's been that isolated, you know, for two years with the pandemic and you see how far away he's
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sitting not just where he needs them but even from his foreign minister you could worry he doesn't know what's going on. i think at this point the russian president understands his plans for becoming peter the great and reviving a great russian empire with removing zelenskyy from power and taking over most of ukraine, like that just is not happening. and the outcomes for russia are going to be worse for him under any circumstance we see going forward. >> you know, ian, there's this bizarre speech today vladimir putin gave claiming that the west is trying to cancel russia and then adding this. >> translator: j.k. rowelling was recently canceled because she an author of books read far and wide did not please the fans of the so-called gender freedoms. today they tried to cancel a whole 1,000-year-old country,
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our people. i'm talking about the increasing discrimination of everything related to russia, about this trend which is unfolding in a number of western states. >> we've heard some absurdities when it comes to people blaming quote-unquote cancel culture for their own failures, but what is putin's point here trying to blame this war and then putting together that which j.k. rowling and cancel culture. >> you'll forgive me if i don't align putin with slithren house. i think in the early days putin was blaming ukraine for acts of genocide against russians in the occupied territory of donbas. now, that was obviously false. but now he's increasingly saying no, no, no this isn't just about ukraine going after russians in ukraine. this is actually about the west and the united states trying to destroy russia. and you see that across the
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russian state media, all of the stories about biological weapons that the americans are developing with ukraine on the ground, the desire to destroy the russian economy, to wipe russia off the map historically. so in other words putin is trying to make this conflict bigger. he's losing in ukraine and trying to make this about russia versus nato, which is fine as long as it's purely in the realm of rhetoric. but if it means that putin is prepared to actually retaliate against nato with cyber attacks, with disninformation attacks or god forbid, worse, then we've got a bigger problem with ukraine on our hands. >> listen, you're talking strategy and geopolitical, you know, happenings. cancel culture, ian? i mean that's not exactly the level that you're discussing
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this. you know, i think you're making this strategy a lot smarter on his part than it is, and him just throwing things against the wall to see what sticks. >> i'm not talking about -- i take your point, don. i'm not talking about one sentence from putin's speech. i'm talking about what i've been hearing and watching on the russian media, russian state television for the last two weeks. there's been a steady drum beat of escalation. look, putin seems increasingly unhinged in the way he is talking about the united states. this is a leader who thought he was going to win. and as you say at the gibeginni, don, he's losing on every front. it's not just the europeans will have a stronger defense capability against putin, but the ukrainians will be in place with a much stronger nationalism against putin. and his own economy will be destroyed. putin's response doesn't seem like a leader who's prepared to accept reality at all in that
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regard. that worries -- it would seem sad and pathetic russia wasn't the 11th largest economy in the world with the bunch of nuclear weapons, but given the reality that the power russia actually has i'm a little concerned about it. >> yeah. and to add more to what you're talking about, we're looking at perhaps multiple setbacks for putin's military, for the russian military operation which has underperformed and sustained massive losses. do you think putin might try to identify a small victory in ukraine, turn it into a big one as, you know, a face saving measure to call this a win for russia? >> they're saying he's underperformed is kind, don. they're not even holding onto the one city they took in kherson in the south. they have taken a bunch of territory in the south, but they clearly can't take kyiv, and they're not ordering a general mobilization of troops that would allow them to.
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on the negotiations front it's interesting. they're saying actually their initial military plan wasn't to remove zelenskyy. it wasn't to take kyiv the capital but instead was actually to secure the former occupied territory of the donbas. that's what they already had basically taken in 2014. so that's definitely moving the goal posts. it would make negotiations easier to proceed. let's see if that's where the russians actually go over the coming week. >> ian, i always enjoy speaking with you. thank you so much. >> you too, don. be safe. >> president biden rallying u.s. troops in poland today. president zelenskyy rallying a nation in ukraine. doris kerns goodwin is here to discuss presidential leadership and whether history is repeating or at leleast rhyming.
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president volodymyr zelenskyy rallying ukraine to keep up the resistance after a month of fighting the russians. >> translator: i am grateful to our defenders who showed the occupiers that the sea will not be calm for them even when there is no storm. because there will be fires and on those russian ships that departed this week on the famous route from the port. >> joining me now is presidential historian doris kerns goodwin. the author oof the book "leadership in turbulent times." always a pleasure to have you on. i enjoy our conversations. the world is watching two wartime presidents right now, president biden and president zelenskyy. and crur seeing echoes of
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history. talk to me about that, please. >> i think the echoes are really there not just because i've loved history since i was a little girl. can see in zelenskyy's ability to have rallied this nation and inspired the country and the world through his words echoes of winston churchill after dunkirk. just think of the mysteries of leadership. the words churchill provided after the devastating defeat at dunkirk made the nation feel somehow it was a rallying cry for the future. so hypnotic were historians said were the power he used to spell to the people they went forth into battle armed with his faith his belief. and i think that's what zelenskyy has done as well. he's projected his own courage and faith into the people themselves, and they give it back to him. that's what leadership is about. it's an amazing history. >> unlike churchill, though, doris, do you see zelenskyy as an unlikely hero?
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as you mentioned a former comedian who played a president on a tv show? >> the funny thing is, don, churchill wasn't churchill in 1940. he had had some defeats of his own in world war i. he'd been out of power for a period of time, and then comes that german attack on western europe, and the man met the moment, and he transformed himself and in so doing transformed the people. so i think that's what we're seeing with zelenskyy. there's something of him having been an actor and having to portray a role and believing so now in the ukrainian people and being able to project that role onto those people that is probably fit. he also understands media in a way someone else wouldn't have, those videos he puts out when he talks about we're going to have a future again, going to rebuild our cities, going to sing again. i just can't believe how people aren't inspired by that, and they are which is incredible. >> what is interesting to me, doris, is how -- what this has
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done, the position it's put our president in, president biden in because biden is now because of this i believe in large part because of this played a crucial role in unifying nato to confront the bold faced aggression of president putin. i mean he was challenged by president zelenskyy to be the leader of the world. has he done that so far? >> you know, the interesting thing is i think in the weeks up to today when there's a public face of the leadership by calling nato together, seeing that power of example, speaking to the troops with empathy and going to the refugees, before that he's been acting behind the scenes i think for weeks and weeks before this to compromise step by step. and that's what fdr had to do in 1940 before dunkirk. he was determined to send everything he could to england even though his generals told him if you send our limited
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supplies, we were only 18th in power then. he sent everything he could to eng england stealthily, and he said if england then falls and our weapons are found there you'll be impeached or hung by a lamppost, and he did it. and i think that's what president biden has had to do, slowly move nato, slowly move them more and more weapons to ukraine. i think that's where we're at right now with ukraine, as much as we can get there to them, as much as we can do get them there and hopefully they can finish the job. what a great thing that would be. >> yeah, he met with key allies yesterday, president biden. he is on a crucial mission in europe. you say this is the most confident biden has been, why? why do you say that? >> well, i just was listening to him yesterday at the press conference, and you just had a feeling that he was knowing that 36 years of experience in the senate foreign relations
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committee, eight years as vice president and now more than a year of the presidency under his belt that he knows things. he knows those countries. he's been there for dozens of times. he knows the leaders, and i think that confidence was projected in the press conference. it was as good as i'd heard him for a while, and he's got to make that confidence the nato partners and i think maybe this man has met his own as well. certain zelenskyy has and let's hope president biden has as well. >> you mentioned meeting with the troops. you met with the u.s. 82nd airborne division in poland today. he thanked them for their service. he even sat down for a slice of pizza. in a few hours he's going to meet with ukrainian refugees. how important is his empathy in terms of a message to the world? >> i think what he's going to be able to do hopefully in meeting with the refugees is to be able
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to give gratitude the neighboring countries. they have showed such extraordinary humanity now and generosity, we've got to feel proud of what they've been able to do. and i see those strollers that the polish put when the babies would be coming across the border, when they invited them to actually live in their homes. that's what makes you feel there's something about humanity that's got to fight the brutality we're seeing onputeb's side. and i think the empathy president biden has had through his life, not only the death of his son but early experiences in death of his wife and child, that's on display when he talked to the troops and also gave them that real sense we're also fighting for ukrainians. if that's true we've got to get everything we can to them to keep that democracy alive. >> it seems like your overall theme, doris, is meeting the moment when opportunity meet preparation. am i wrong with my assessment of what you're saying about those
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men and where we are now? >> no, you're absolutely right and you can never really tell. who would have thought abraham lincoln a one term congressman with only four terms in the state legislature could meet the moment of the civil war. we might not have heard about churchill and we're finding about biden. there's something about the to meet a moment and then when they connect to the people, the people respond. in london after churchill walked the streets at night staying in the capitol refusing to leave and there was a story about a shop owner whose windows were shattered with a big sign, come in. more open than usual. i loved it. that means that resilience the leader shows is translated into a thousand different people, hundreds of thousands and that's what we've been seeing day after day on cnn, resilience and hope
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people in ukraine are providing and give it back to the leader. that's the two-way leadership we're seeing. >> i almost forgot we're on tv for a moment. i thought i was sitting on my couch talking to you. thank you. appreciate it. have a great weekend. we love having you on again. appreciate it. thanks. >> thank you for having me with you. >> absolutely. kharkiv bombed to ruins but its heart still beating. the shattered streets of his home city, my conversation with him is next. when we found out our son had autism, his future became my focus. lavender baths calmed him. so we mamade a plan to turn bath time into a business. ♪ ♪ find a northwestern mutual advisor atat nm.com
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