tv Don Lemon Tonight CNN March 28, 2022 7:00pm-8:00pm PDT
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far towards the border where the president was and where you were covering the president. so i wasn't scared because, as you see i'm wearing tactical gear and a helmet, which is protocol here. most of the citizens as you know don't have those in their homes. many people wondering why most citizens don't have black jackets and helmets for this kind of thing. but it was -- once i got closer, it was -- i wasn't scared, but it was a bit of a stunning scene because i had grown up around chemical plants similar to this where there were controlled burns and there would be ashes and soot raining down on neighborhoods and we would have to paint our houses every year and our cars because it would rust the cars and mess up the houses. so i know what it can do to the environment. but you never know. this city was a safe haven, and i think that some people may have had a false sense of security about lviv. but now they don't. so at any second people are
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concerned that another missile or other missiles might fall somewhere in lviv as well. >> because it was surprising because supposedly the russians say, well, we are only interested in eastern ukraine and we're going to leave western ukraine out of it. but all of a sudden the next day they're bombing this oil facility right near lviv, class in western ukraine and a relatively safe area. >> relatively safe area, wolf, and really close to residents. there were two strikes here. one was in a military facility, the other one was in this oil or fuel depo. i think it was strategic because i guess they were trying to send a message to the military and also cut off some oil supply possibly. and also, the mayor here said maybe it was vladimir putin's way of saying hello to joe biden who was not far away in neighb
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neighboring poland. we don't know, but we watched the coverage and the president there meeting with folks, and i think it was important for him to be there on that night when they struck a city which had been a relatively safe haven, wolf. >> i just want you to be -- >> i'll see you tomorrow. >> i just want you to be safe over there. be careful. we will certainly stay in touch. >> thank you, wolf. i really appreciate that. this is "don lemon tonight." i'm here in western ukraine in lviv where we're hearing air raid sirens tonight. it happened just moments ago. explosions heard in kyiv and cities across the country just hours before talks between russia and ukraine are supposed to resume in istanbul. president volodymyr zelenskyy is saying ukraine is ready to accept a neutral status as part of a peace deal which would mean they wouldn't be able to join nato. but as russia continues to attack from the air, vladimir putin's forces have stalled in several parts of ukraine. that according to a senior u.s. defense official who says that russia has made no progress in
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moving towards kyiv or elsewhere in the north. in a suburb of kyiv, the mayor telling cnn ukraine has foreed the area from russia. mariupol's mayor says russia controls the humanitarian corridor that's the only escape from the besieged city but vows soldiers will stand to the end. you see so much destruction here. you can get numb to it. but just remember, days ago somebody lived here, somebody lived in mariupol in those bombed-out buildings. meanwhile, president joe biden is pushing back today on questions about his speech in poland this weekend when he said that -- this about vladimir putin, and i quote, for god's sake this man cannot remain in power. >> i was expressing my outrage. he shouldn't remain in power, just like bad people shouldn't continue to do bad things, but it doesn't mean wave fundamental policy to do anything to take putin down in any way.
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the last part of the speech was talking to the russian people telling them what we thought. i was communicating this not only to the russian people but the whole world. this is just stating a simple fact that this kind of behavior is totally unacceptable. >> what we have been seeing in ukraine for more than a month, the death, the destruction, homes, schools, hospitals obliterated, innocent people from babies to elderly people forced to run for their lives. all that is unacceptable. the president is saying exactly what most of the world feels about vladimir putin. so we start our coverage tonight with our senior international correspondent, fred pleitgen. he's live for us tonight in kyiv. fred, hello to you. a lot of shelling in kyiv today and reports of russian forces trying to block supply routes into the capital. give us the latest, please. >> reporter: yeah, it's been a fierce battle today. i would say more intense than we
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had over the past couple days. we had air raid sirens throughout the better part of the day. but we also had massive explosions that we've been hearing from our position and seeing as well massive plumes of smoke coming up, especially over at the northwest of the city. that's exactly what you were just talking about, the area of irpin where the ukrainian forces now say they've taken 100% control of that area. however, there is still big shelling going on and the ukrainians are acknowledging that russians are certainly shooting back. it was the deputy defense minister that said russians are trying to create corridors around the city, seeming to mean they're trying to cut off supply routes, but the ukrainians are saying they're holding them up. now, the russians certainly are firing back in a big way and there's a lot of civilians who unfortunately are being harmed in that. we were able to go to the north of kyiv and what we saw there in a small village was also utter devastation brought on by that shelling. here's what we saw.
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>> reporter: we drove to a village north of kyiv a few miles from the front line. even the streets here are pock marked with shrapnel and massive intact craters. whole buildings lay to waste. i mean, just look at the utter destruction caused by this massive explosion. there's some really thick brick wall that even they were annihilated by the force of whatever landed here. the people tell us they only felt one really large explosion, and it wounded several people and killed a small child. that child was 2-year-old stepan killed when the house came under fire. these video given to us by local authorities showed chaos in the aftermath. as the wounded appear in shock. residents and rescuers tried to save those who were inside. stepan pronounced dead on the scene. certainly was an awful scene, even days later to witness that as we were down there.
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you know, the people we spoke to said they really didn't see any military in that area. we asked if they understood why this happened to them, and they simply said they had absolutely no idea. obviously this is a district north of kyiv where people sort of are just trying to live their lives. but the front line only about 3 1/2 miles away from where we were, don. >> fred, those images are just awful. i mean, seeing that child is just unbelievable. i want to talk now, fred, about the kremlin spokesman dmitry peskov saying russians are not shelling any civilian targets. but that defies what every journalist is witnessing on the ground and the pictures that were that we're showing on television. >> reporter: yeah, i mean, look, if you look at the numbers, it certainly does seem to do i a lot of things that journalists are witnessing and the people on the ground are witnessing. the city of of mariupol, the local council says 90% of
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buildings in that city have been severely damaged. you know, only if you believe that 90% of mariupol is a military installation, then would what the kremlin spokesman said seem valid. obviously we see in kyiv as well where we were, there were obviously homes that were badly damaged and homes that were completely destroyed. we saw a tennis club that was essentially lay to waste on the outskirts of kyiv. you have residential buildings that have been hit, apartment blocks as well. obviously not military areas. so in some cases, maybe there was military infrastructure stationed in those areas, but certainly not in all cases and certainly not 90% of mariupol as that city is also being laid to waste. there's so many other places in ukraine, don, where that's also the case. you take the town of chernihiv which is completely surrounded by russian forces and they're shelling into that area as well. so there is a large civilian
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toll that all this has taken, especially in cities that are surrounded by those russian forces, don. >> all right, fred. thank you very much. we appreciate it. the humanitarian situation is as dire as it gets in mariupol. the city is in ruins after weeks of russian shelling. and now russian forces control the humanitarian corridor in and out of the the city. cnn's phil black now with the very latest. >> reporter: russia is so close to taking prize of mariupol. these soldiers are already celebrating. the flag going up on this local government building is from one of the russian-backed separatist regions in ukraine's east. the ukrainians peeled off, prays god the almighty, this soldier says. we are working to the order of putin. we get rare glimpses of russia's efforts to take the city street by street.
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these soldiers are from the russian republic of chechnya. its propaganda from their leader. mariupol's mayor says the fight isn't over. what has happened to the ukrainian soldiers defending mariupol? are they any left? they hold the line and stand to the end, he says. to the last drop of blood. it's not only ukrainian soldiers trapped here. the city council estimates there are still around 170,000 civilians in this devastated city. and 90% of homes have been damaged or destroyed. this is the only home she's known, the place where she raised her family. she wasn't here when the shell hit. she's been hiding in the basement. she doesn't want to leave. she knows she can't stay. but many will never leave.
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the council says almost 5,000 people have been killed during the four-week siege, including more than 200 children. russia is so close to taking its prize, but it will be a blackened shell of a city, and it's unlikely the people they're conquering will ever forgive them. phil black, cnn, lviv, western ukraine. >> phil, thank you very much. we appreciate that. just hours, the next round of talks with ukraine will begin in turkey. after weeks of brutal fighting, what are both sides looking for at the negotiating table? joining me now to discuss this is a former u.s. ambassador to ukraine, john hertz, senior director at the atlantic council's yeur asis center. they are saying zelenskyy would accept non-nuclear status.
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what would that mean in practice? >> well, it's pretty simple. one of the conditions putin has had for ending this war, this new invasion, is that ukraine establish i have to say as a neutral nation, not part of nato and not part of the west. zelenskyy in his interest of finding an horrible out for his country is going to consider this. but putin's objectives go far beyond neutrality. he wants the ukrainians to disarm so he can essentially dom dominate is country. and he also wants land that zelenskyy is not willing to give up. i have low expectations for these negotiations because negotiators don't seem to reflect putin's ideas, which are still for essentially unconditional surrender by zelenskyy. >> ukraine says they will not accept territorial losses, but there are concerns that russia might try to split ukraine in two, like north and south korea,
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and even if that satisfied putin, seems like there would be major issues with that deal. what do you think about that? >> okay, you're right that if putin were able to seize half the country, there would still be the other half that he would want. but putin is not able to seize half the country. right now russian forces occupy maybe 20% of ukraine. occupy means they control the roads and a few cities. but not even within those cities, as we see in kherson where we see people protesting every day. if russia tries to hold on to those territories, ukraine will retain military resistance. there will not be peace. so i think that -- of course i don't think this is what putin wants anyway. so these ideas which people in russia who are not putin are suggesting and people in the west only too happy to grab this illus illusion of peace. but putin's objective is to
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dominate ukraine and zelenskyy will not let that happen. >> you know, putin will have the final say over anything decided in the negotiations. can this war end without zelenskyy and putin at the table, ambassador? >> this war can and with the two leaders of ukraine and russia making decisions. but right now putin still does not understand that his military has been stalled, that they're unable to establish the domination he wants. he refuses to understand that. this idea of splitting the country comes from a russian colonel general. it does not come from putin or from anyone speaking on putin's behalf. so again, people are now gyrating around this concept, but until putin himself endorses i it, it has no real status. putin is still seeking to change the leadership in ukraine and he has given no indication he's willing to let ukraine pursue a
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truly neuter foreign policy as opposed to a neutral foreign policy which he, putin, dictates. >> ambassador, putin spokesperson telling pbs tonight that russia would only use nuclear weapons if the existence of russia was at stake: listen to this and we'll discuss. >> any outcome of their operation of course is not a reason for usage of a nuclear weapon. we have a security concept that very clearly states that only when there is a threat for existence of the state in our country we can use and we will actually use nuclear weapons to eliminate the threat for the existence of our country. >> so he had an interview with our christiane amanpour last week. we went a beat past what she said to christiane.
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is he saying they would only use weapons if there is an existential threat to russia, but the outcome of the war in ukraine doesn't necessarily pose that kind of a threat. how do you interpret that? >> it in any way -- russia losing its current war of aggression in ukraine is not an existential threat to russia. in fact, it would lead to improvement of russia's international position because it would no longer be isolated once they gave up this aggressive war and barbaric war in ukraine. but putin has threatened the use of nuclear weapons as a way to intimidate the west from taking strong steps to prevent the murder of ukrainian civilians, women and children, and also to protect major, major western interests. that's very unfortunate. there's a long history during the cold war of nuclear weapons used as a deterrent as united states defended its vital interests. if jack kennedy every three seconds said, gee, you can't do x to deal with soviet missiles
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in cuba because of the escalation factor, as opposed to merely thinking about it quietly, we would never have gotten those russian missiles out of cuba. this administration has been too intimidated by putin's nuclear threats. we can manage those threats and still protect our interests. >> i'm interested in what you have to say about this because president biden says that he's not walking back anything after saying that putin can't remain in power this weekend. you are one of the people who have said that those remarks were a mistake. today the president said that he was expressing his outrage and it wasn't about policy. do you think that settles the matter? what are your thoughts on that? >> well, this was an unfortunate statement by the president. he and his team realized it was a mistake. but the president doesn't want to admit that he made a mistake, but presidents have a right to do. the problem is that the russians will remember this and putin will weaponize it. the odd and sad thing is that this is something which does, in fact, provoke the russians,
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provoke putin more than us sending those migs from eastern europe into ukraine or making sure ukraine has serious high-altitude aircraft missiles. those are the things we should be doing quiet and not talking about sending putin off into the dust bin of history. our interests are making sure ukraine has the weapons it needs to defeat this russian aggression so that putin doesn't try this against our baltic allies. >> ambassador, thank you. i appreciate it. >> thank you, my pleasure. russian forces stalled across the country. ukrainians fighting fiercely. are vladimir putin's forces sitting ducks? and what does it say about this war that these kinds of things are going on for russia just one month in? .
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leighton. thank you for taking us through the math and the strategy. ukrainians are fighting ferociously. russian forces are stalled in several parts of ukraine. over a month into this war, just over a month, what options does putin have right now? >> that's a great question, don. what we're looking at here is of course the area around kyiv, which -- is right here of course. and then you've got kharkiv and you got mariupol. all of these areas are centers of fighting. that's one of the biggest issues that they have. where do they divide their forces? seems as if the kyiv battle is basically stalled out for putin. we'll talk about that in just a second. but when you look at kharkiv and mariupol, you have two very different scenarios fairly close to each other. kharkiv, the russians have not been able to move forward, even though kharkiv is within 30 miles of the russian border. mariupol on the other hand
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appears to be in essence a russian victory at this point. that's because the city is a complete wasteland, completely destroyed by the russians, over 90% of the building are completely gone. this area right here in the south around kherson, that's an area the russians thought they could move in different directions, such as to the west and north of this. none of that is happening. it is at least at the present time. what we're dealing with here is putin has to figure out what he wants to do next. one of the possible things that he can do is divide the country as you have been speaking about earlier, and that would mean something like this. i would go over to russia and that would be a possible solution to what the russians are thinking, at least a temporary solution. but that is in a really short form thous form how the russians are looking at this. they are stalled out, but their goal remains the same, which is to topple the government in
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kyiv. they're just going to take a longer time to get there. >> colonel, u.k. defense officials say the notorious russian private military group wagner has deployed the eastern ukraine for combat operations. it's interesting because, what does that mean that putin is plague dead generals and commanders with mercenaries? >> well, mercenaries are, of course, soldiers for hire. we had them in the american revolution with the hessians and they've been around throughout history. these guys are notorious, though, and they don't really replace the generals or the colonels. but what they do is they provide terror for the groups that are here. they are soldiers that are not really ones who follow the rules of war. they're primarily deployed in this area in the eastern part of the country, as you mentioned. their possible mission is to mop up what's going on in mariupol and finish off the rest of the resistance there. they could potentially be used
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in other areas like kharkiv and potentially in me lit poll and some of the other areas around here in the south. so they are going to be the group that would be used to do those kinds of mopping-up operations and they're known for their brutality and that's ma when a makes them particularly gruesome and not ones to mess with if you're standing alone fighting these guys. >> just awful. the pentagon is deploying six u.s. navy electronic warfare jets to germany accompanied by 200 air crew pilots and maintenance staff. the planes can go used for radar jamming. so tell us about these jets. could they be used to help ukraine from nato air space? >> absolutely they could be because they have the range to do suppression of enemy air defenses, or s.e.a.d. they have pods on the aircraft
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that provide jamming capabilities and they have missiles that can be used to fire at targets that are active that are painting, as we call it, this particular jet or other jets in a package. these navy jets are based on the fa 18, which is the basic airframe we have here. but the jamming pods are very important because what they do is go after enemy radar and they make it hard for the enemy to figure out where ukrainian assets would be at or nato assets would be at. they are a critically important asset. we use them for all combat operations and they could be use for ukraine in this case. >> wow, that's serious stuff there. we learned a lot, as we do for you every single time. thank you, colonel. appreciate it. >> you bet, don. banned in russia. russian journalists interviewing ukraine's president zelenskyy, and now those journalists are being investigated. stay with us. lavender baths calmed him.
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tonight vladimir putin's government banning an interview with ukrainian president zelenskyy from being broadcast in russia. the interview was conducted by some of russia's most prominent independent journalists who now face investigation for possibly violating strict new censorship laws. he is taunting the kremlin
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accusing him of not letting russians know the truth about ukraine. more from cnn's matthew chance now. >> reporter: this was a groundbreaking interview with what the kremlin sees as an enemy head of state, and a first for russian journalists covering this war. but for many russians, the words of president zelenskyy, including his offers of compromise for peace, will never be heard. russian authorities banning the interview before it was even broadcast and now vowing to investigate the journalists who carried it out. journalists like this one, the editor in chief of tv rain, an independent russian channel forced off the air earlier this month. no to war, his editorial staff said, as they walked off their moscow set. >> there is a digital iron curtain on the ukrainian topic
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in russia, and we see there is, i would say, military censorship in russia. everything against the kremlin is forbidden, so post important to tell the truth, or tell them the opposite side of the war. >> why do you think it's so important for the kremlin to keep such a tight grip on that flow of information? >> the whole story of russian war in ukraine is illegal, just from the beginning. even the word "war" is not being used by the russian government. we understand that this is not true. we understand that there is a war. we understand that a lot of civilians die there every day, and we understand that a lot of russian soldiers as well die there every day.
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but volodymyr zelenskyy is a person who has a lot of information on what is going on there, and of course he gave us this information during this interview and of course russian government doesn't want this information to be spread in russia. >> reporter: this is what the kremlin does want russians to see, blanket coverage on state media of its special military operation. russian forces cast as liberators and heroes. there have been displays of dissent like this one of a journalist holding up an anti-war placard during russia's main daily newscast. the program was quickly cut away. but for millions of russians, the idea their country is a force for good fighting neo-nazis in ukraine -- welcomed by the people there is much more appealing than the hard truth. >> why is it such a successful strategy? why are people so ready to believe that propaganda? >> there is a huge part of
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russian society of people who are in denial. people just do not want to admit that their country, our country, my country is bombing civilian objects, schools, and hospitals, et cetera, et cetera. it's hard to admit that maybe there is something very wrong with your homeland, and that somehow we as a civilian of russia is somehow responsible for it. >> reporter: hard to admit, param perhaps, but with it being illegal, russia's criminalizing of the truth is this war's latest casualty. while russia's most acclaimed critical newspaper interviewed president zelenskyy and one of
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its editor won the nobel peace prize this year has announced it is halting its publication until the war as ended. it's an increasing hostile atmosphere for the independent media but still a shocking sign how bad the situation in russia has become. don? >> matthew chance, thank you very much. julie i cyaffe is here. how long can that last? we'll talk about that next. ♪ lunchables! built to be eaten.
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outlets against publishing ukrainian president zelenskyy's interview with russian journalists over the weekend. independent russian newspaper whose editor in chief won the nobel peace prize announcing it would suspend publication until the war is over. let's go to washington correspondent julia yaffe. we love having you on. thank you so much for joining us. president zelenskyy is accusing moscow of being frightened by journalists after banning his interview from being published. the kremlin says russia isn't afraid. bora would there be any reason to block it? >> it's to make sure russians don't, a, learn the truth about the war that their country is waging in ukraine. they've gotten a very sanitized and cleanedup version, and to not see zelenskyy in any kind of
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humanized, approachable way so that he can be seen as the puppet of the nazis and of the u.s. >> so russia is shutting down independent media outlets, they're blocking social media apps, they're banning what putin considers fake news about the country's military. are russians aware of all of this censorship? are there ways for people to get access to information or do they not know it's out there and ignorance is bliss? >> i think it depends who you're talking about. if you're talking about younger people, about educated people in cities, they know it's out there and a lot of them do pursue it and look for it through vpns, through other channels, for example, a telegram, which is a russian-developed messaging app that has information channels. but those are people who as a rule want to know what's going
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on because they don't believe the government. they already know the government is lying to them. there are other people in russia who know the government is lying to them but don't really care and feel that if it's in the interests of the state, then it's okay. there have been several polls that show this. the majority will say it's okay for the government to lie to them from the television if it serves the state's interests. so some people -- [ no audio ] >> julia, we lost your last words. repeat your last sentence. you said some people what? >> i said some of them know they're being lied to, and polls have shown in recent years a large and disconcerting majority of russians know that state tv lies to them, but that they're okay with it if they feel it's in the interests of the state. >> julia, russia is expected --
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russia expected that this war would be over quickly, but its military has faced a lot of setbacks. you're tuned into what's happening in russia. are you seeing any cracks in state media over how this war is going? >> we've seen a lot of prominent anchors from these kremlin-owned channels resign. a lot of them have fled the country. and for them the war was a kind of at the point where they cracked and they said they couldn't do this work anymore, couldn't push this propaganda anymore, whereas before they were for whatever reason able to. and there have been reports trickling out of russia that there's a lot of discontent in these newsrooms, in part because they all know what's going on. they have access to reuters, to the a.p., to "the new york times," to all the information that we're seeing in the west, but their viewers are not seeing, and it's apparently, according to some of these reports, is getting harder and harder for these so-called journalists to square what they
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are telling russian viewers and what they know to be the truth. >> julia, you had a recent piece in puck, and you spoke with a russian sociologist and an independent pollster designated as a foreign agent by putin prosecutors, and you discussed how many think that russia's protests in the street. putin will stop the war. protests in the streets and that putin will stop the war if they do that. he told you he wouldn't count on it. is the west wrong to expect a big outcry from russia with people protesting in the streets and if they find information? sounds like that's what you're saying because you're saying it doesn't matter if it's good for the state and he's cracking down on protests? >> that soeciologist told me about a focus group he did where an older woman told him i know
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if i watch the bbc, for example, i would have a totally different understanding not just of the war but of the world. i just don't want to know and i don't want to change my understanding because everything she knows and believes to be true and has believed to be true for the last few decades would come tumbling down, and that's very scary for people. i think because people are scared, because the censorship isn't new, because putin has built this authoritarian regime not overnight but over the last 22 years, because he has built it on the memory and the historical reflexes developed over 70 years of brutal soviet rule, of political terror, i think russians are too scared even if they're against the war to come out en masse. it's interesting, by the way. the riot police that traditionally beat up protesters -- you see these crazy images of them dragging them to the vans. they're now being sent to fight
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to ukraine, and apparently hundreds of them are quitting and asking not to be sent, which is interesting. they don't want to kill ukrainians because they have arms, but beating up peaceful protesters in moscow are st. petersburg is apparently totally fine for them. >> sounds like an interesting sociology lesson for america to learn as well what happens if things escalate. thank you, julia. appreciate it. >> thank you. nearly 4 million ukrainians fleeing into neighboring countries. thousands of them being housed in a convention center in warsaw, poland. it is the largest refugee center in europe right now, and we're going to take you inside right after this. rain whizzes by) ♪ (toddler babbling) ♪ (buzzing sound) ♪ (dog barks) ♪ (wine glasses clink) ♪ (typing)
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the refugee crisis spurred by russia's invasion of ukraine is staggering. 4 million have thread the country. more than half of them to poland. kyung lah is in warsaw in the largest refugee center in europe. >> reporter: you are looking at the largest refugee hub in all of europe. all of these are cots, places where people have basically taken everything that they could carry and turned into their home. you can see that there are these little pods of blankets, children laying on some of these cots. there are cribs here. 95% of the people in this place in warsaw are women, children, and the elderly. they are the ones who have left safely out of ukraine. but the emphasis is that this is a hub. if you look at other parts of this expo center, there are
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places for you to get paperwork sorted, to get a bus ticket to travel to other parts of europe, to stop, have a place to sleep, to eat consistent meals, to get health care. it is something that this expo center, which is privately and jointly run by the city, but privately owned, says it will do as long as it can. >> how long? i don't know. we should call putin. i don't know. we will be helping them as long as possible. but it's not the accommodations for the human beings, you know, so that's why we must replace them very fast because this is temporary place. it's not good for children and for those women, you know. i know the good to live here for a long time. >> reporter: the city of warsaw
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has taken in some 300,000 refugees. the country of poland, more than 2 million refugees. we spoke to the mayor of warsaw who says the generosity of the polish people is endless, but the reality is that there is only so much that the city can do sustainably without this type of care starting to drop. kyung lah, cnn, warsaw, poland. >> thank you very much for that. russia targeting ukraine's fuel supply, territory changing hands daily on the front lines. we have much more coverage from here in ukraine straight ahead.
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