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candidate andrew yen. >> will run for office again? >> i'm going to do whatever i can for the country of ours? >> come on, dude. you're 0 for 2. you are standing up? that sounds like yes. >> i guess what i'm describing, i have -- i completely open mind about what my future holds. but, you know, i'm 47 years old in political terms makes me very, very young. yeah. >> but if you're going to run again, what you would run for? would you run for president zbhen. >> i have a mission to do what i can. frankly, like -- >> come on, man. you're smarter. i know you're like doing the math. where do you see an opening potentially for andrew yang? >> right now concerned with '22 and '24. i'm going to do what i can. it's elevating other candidates. >> no mercy. you can watch it on cnn plus using your web browser. cnn mobile app or app on apple tv and amazon fire tv streaming
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devices. stay with cnn. i want to hand it over to wolf blitzer and cnn tonight. >> thank you very much. i'm wolf blitzer. this is cnn tonight. we want to welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. so what is russia up to now? the pentagon is -- don't be fooled by ukraine and easing up and the capital and on the ground there and there is more explosions in the capital. an june tick in shelling and intense fighting continuing around the suburbs of kyiv this afternoon. we're about to take you there live. but first, some words of caution from the u.s. defense department earlier today. >> has there been some movement by some russian units away from kyiv in the last day or so? >> yeah. we think so. small numbers. but we believe that this is a
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repositioning, not a real withdraw. and that we all should be prepared to watch for a major offensive against other areas of ukraine. >> so is this just a repositioning not a real withdraw? as the pentagon claims? the president, president biden also expressing skepticism. >> we'll see. we'll see what their actions are. >> and as ukraine's president zelenskyy notes, bombs are still dropping. missiles are still flying. >> translator: the enemy is still on our territory. they carry on shelling our cities. mariupol is besieged. air attacks are not stopping. this is a reality. this is a fact. the signals that we hear from the negotiating platform can be called positive. but these signals don't drown
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out the xprexplosions of russia bombs. >> we have brand new video just in to cnn to of destruction in kyiv. some of what you're about to see is very, very disturbing. it shows the full extent of the devastation after ukrainian forces push russian troops out over the last 36 hours. cnn has geo located and verified the authenticity of the footage. one of the first visit yoez in weeks from the eastern part of the country. intense fighting there made it impossible to access safely. aside from the debris and destruction of the buildings, the bodies of civilians are the only things in the streets. there are at least five bodies in the video. who they are and how they died that, is unclear. let's go to cnn senior international correspondent from kyiv. fred yooshgs fred, you're there in the capital.
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russia says they're scaling back. the u.s. thinks they're repositioning their troops. what is your sense on the ground where you are. the past earn tire week, the whole day saw massive shelling. we heard that announcement about it russians after the negotiation thez had with the ukrainians there in istanbul saying they would take forces out of kyiv and relieve some of the pressure off kyiv. went down to the area around the front line. you can see the video that we shot today of some the massive destruction in the areas close to the front line. what you heard there was still massive on going battles. shelling was going on everywhere. it was really, really intense and appeared to us at least to be going both ways. now we did manage to speak to a lot of folks who are still out there. none of them believe that russia is pulling back. because they want to create some
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some trust with the ukrainians. most say that if russia is pulling back, they simply lost. they can't enter kyiv and because their troops are in big trouble here. the ukrainian army has been a lot stronger than the russians would have thought. one thing though that did catch our eye, we think this is important and they told us that in the past couple of days they had seen an uptick in the shelling. that means there has been shooting coming from the russian side towards the ukrainian side. and the forces here that could either and this is some tactic they're using or covering some sort of withdraw. that, of course, would mesh with what the pentagon has been saying. they say some forces might be withdrawing. but might be a reposition. of course that repositioning if they're going to other front lines in ukraine would have to go by bella russian or russian territory. but definitely would have to go
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to the north first. so that could be case. very hard to tell at this point in time, wolf. >> fred, stay safe over. there we'll be in tough. earlier in the day, u.s. intelligence officials were calling talk of a russian pullback major strategy shift. meanwhile, the white house and pentagon taking more of a wait and see attitude. let's get some perspective from not one but two former nato supreme allied commanders. wesley clark and philip reid. thank you for joining us. general clark, what are we seeing right now? are russian troops actually pulling back altogether? are they focusing to the east? >> they're trying to reconstitute the units that were beaten up. that's for sure. but they're going to keep the artillery and rocket forces on kyiv. they're going to continue to pound the city. there is likely that the forces around k had.
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arkiv are going to try to go south to try to cut off the ukrainian forces that are holding the pocket there. this is classic eastern european military tactics. they're going try to do an enen enenvelopement and annihilate them and then they'll swing back and enkirkcircle kyiv. he wants to irrad eradicate ukr. what roger says about redeploying, this is a tough, tough fight that's going to continue. >> yeah. that's a good point. general, we heard this type of talk from the russians before. sefkly right before launching the invasion. so what do you need to see before buying this move towards what they're supposedly talking about deescalation? >> well, the russians, as you
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know, are famous for masking what they're really doing. and that's why i think a healthy dose of exceskepticism is impor here. they're going try to fix the defenses of kyiv. they're going to try to cut off the forces. and they will mary up the forces coming north out of the area. it is now fallen. and so those forces would also enter into the fight. those large units to the east and then to the south. >> how much are the russians worth now? given they say it was their forces that actually invaded
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crimea. >> their word is not worth anything really. >> did you see the gentleman from russia that walked through in mariupol and pointing at this large theater where all the children and people were killed? eastern he was describing to russian news that it looked like this was done from the inside and was done and blamed on the russians. so this was the lie machine, their disinformation campaign on high speed. >> general clark. they've been fighting this war with even mostly defensive weapons like the javlin, for example, the stinger missiles. they need armored fighting vehicles, tanks, mobile
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artillery, long range rockets and they need air cover. and they don't have that. not in sufficient numbers. most of the systems are of soviet origin. with he don't have them to give. this has to come from our european allies and our friends around the world who countries like kuwait and others who bought russian equipment. they have to belly up and give it up. this war in ukraine is about everybody. this is about an insult on the international system and a rules based order f putin gets away with this, he'll go after the next one. so everyone should be involved. and they should be generous in giving these weapons up to the ukrainians who are using them quite well. but without support from our east european allies and others, artillery ammunition, rockets, the armored fighting vehicles, the migs, the other aircraft, look, russia will consolidate and close in around ukraine and we're going to have an ethnic
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cleansing, humanitarian tragedy like the world has never seen if we don't stop it. >> while with you are the nato exercise as long the ukrainians, is there more u.s. forces should be doing right now while remaining, for example, in poland? what else could the nato troops, the u.s. troops specifically be doing? zblfr let me just echo what was said. i think it's very important. this army of ukrainians consuming things at a great rate. and in this spot. and as general clark said, there are some high end items that they need and they also need basic resupply of the ammunition, food, medical supplies. we need to pour on the gas getting to them the things that they consume. while they fight. and, yes, there are things that we can still do to help train
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them if needed in nato areas. but truly, i don't think they're going to take any of the forces out of the fight right now because they are on a razor's edge as they are trying to turn the tide and in some places they are turning the tide. >> generals, thank you so much for joining us. obviously, we're going to stay atop this story. one thing appears very certain right now. ukrainians are putting up a fight for their country. vladimir putin who isn't prepared for a return to someone in the resistance for her take on russia's suspicious claims that pulling back from kyiv. she's a member of parliament in ukraine. there you see her. she's standing by live. we'll discuss when we get back. pods handles the driving. pack at your pace. store your thingss until you're ready. then we deliverr to your new home - across town or across the country. pods, your personall moving and storage team.
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around kyiv, air raid sirens are sounding tonight in the capital city. our crews on the ground say major artillery and rocket fire can be heard. it comes as we're getting this new video again. we warn you that it is disturbing at times. these pictures showing the extent of destruction in the kyiv suburb, what's left is a wasteland with civilian bodies scattered on the streets. it's yale painful to see what is going on. let me ask you, how you are doing? >> hello. thank you so much for having me again. always good to talk to you. we don't trust russians a bit. when they say that they will regroup or they will pull back, we train harder.
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we're still up. we know when we hear air raid sirens, that means the russians want to kill somebody. and we all are thinking, okay, let us -- let this not be us this time. >> you and i have spoken several times over these past few weeks. i know you're a courageous woman. you remained in kyiv, the capital throughout this invasion. and had even undergone weapons training at one point to prepare for a fight. tell us what you are seeing there on the ground right now. how concerned should we be be? russia claims it's moving on. but the evidence is not playing to that at all. >> i continue my training and day 35 of the war, i'm much better than on day one. this is absolutely a fact. the resistance team that i'm a
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part of continues training. haen doing and the ukrainian army and we continue working and making sure the whole organization works as a whole. as of kyiv and russian forces, every single time we hear russia saying we want peace, we know that this means the opposite. every single time they say we're pulling back or we're regrouping or we want to finish this war, we know this is exactly a lie. and they are just want to kill more and more of ukrainian people. so right now i'm more concentrated on parliamentary work. so the next seating soon and there has been at least four seatings since the beginning of the war.
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and democracies working here. we're making sure that the country is able to resist. the country is able to survive. and that we will win. however, on the day 35 and on the day one, i'm asking for the same things. and i'm asking for migs and fighter jets and air force action. honestly, wolf, on day 35, we are in the same position with our air force defense that we were on the day one. and this is hard for me. in 35 days, world leaders are not able to make this essential decisions for my country to be able to protect us, to be able to give us this ability to protect ourselves and that however brave we're fighting on the ground. we'll still be able to protect us in the air because we don't have needs for it. >> so if the president of the
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united states or the other 29 nato allies are watch right now, what is your bottom line message to them? >> every single moment of progress in the nation of not one thing to take responsibility, every single moment of hoping that somebody else is doing it is a price that my people are paying with their blood. it's a price we're paying with our lives. and still on the day 35 of incredibly brave fight against one of the largest armies in the world, i'm still asking for the same thing. help us close our skies. make this terror stop for us. let us fight for our country on the ground where we're fighting russians back. help us. help us to win the war. give us this chance. the chance that we so desperately need and it's hurts me that on the day 35,
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everybody, as we need it on day one. >> following to iday's talks, a adviser to president zelenskyy said there is now likelihood that the two presidents potentially could believe. do you believe this meeting between putin and zelenskyy could actually happen? will it happen? if not, do you see any pathway to an off ramp at this point? >>. >> so first of all, i don't see a reason for talking to putin. i understand the motives. but i don't know what it would change. i don't believe it will change anything. we right now need to get on to their security guarantees from the nato countries from the other countries. this is the most important point of the negotiations. otherwise, it's just talking with russians and you have seen yourself how it goes. whatever they say, it turns out to be a lie.
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we go around. they're shelling our cities. they killing more people. and so the main thing is to get the security guarantees after that. there should be some negotiations. right now, i don't see any, like, huge line of world leaders saying take us as guarantors, take us. everybody's being very cautious. and i understand why. what we know for sure is that without the guarantees, there could not be any -- not even peaceful negotiations. there could not be any deal. and i can tell you, wolf, that any operation with this peaceful negotiation, russia has stopped the human convoys out of the cities. they have taken more and more women and children to russia. and you know how they call it? they call it exchange pool.
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to capture russian soldiers in ukraine. i want to remind everybody that when president biden was speaking in poland at exactly the same time russians were firing the missiles to the closest place to the polish border. so russians do not intend to have peace right now. they intend to have more and more fight, more and more leverage in these negotiations. and this is why we need heavyweight in this negotiations. this is why we need the support of everybody who truly wants peace, of all the democratic countries. en that is a question mark why are we not getting that? >> yeah. i remember just before this speech in warsaw, the russians attacked the oil depots right outside of lviv in western ukraine. were supposed to be a safe area, turned out to be not that safe. be careful over there. stay in touch us with. we will stay in touch with you. thank you so much for joining us and good luck. >> thank you.
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>> so how does this all end? and when does this end? a story of hope amid the horror ahead. you're going to hear from someone whose family survived that devastate ago tack on a theater bombed in mirapulo filled with thousands of people including many children. we have details. that's next. ( ♪ ) ( ♪ ) ( ♪ )
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i want to turn now to the scene in mariupol. buildings flattened. the dwram theater. they house up to 1300 people simply seeking shelter. that's prior to attack. children paint ond the ground outside in giant russian letters. the message seen here large enough to be viewed from the sky was scrolled near a public square. russia denies the forces at the
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theater and attack believed to have killed 300 people. we spoke to someone inside the theater moments before it was hit. she shares her harrowing story of survival with ivan. >> this was the drama theater before vladimir putin invaded ukraine. a cultural symbol of the city and when they laid the deadly siege, the theater became a safe hafrn. in the thiter there was a lot of people. they gave us tea. and they said like, you should find a place where you could, like, a bed.
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footage shows families huddled in the dark. feeling protected by the sign children in russian that volunteers posted outside the building. >> i hear the noise of the plane. like bombs plain. we know how -- how this noise because this is bombed every day. >> she returned to the theater to find it destroyed. >> i understand my family in the theater and everyone screaming the names like, you know, momma, poppa.
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>> when the theater was bombed. my sister was standing with the window. and the window blow up. and she fell down. and my mom was in another part of the theater. and wall fall on to her. >> maria's mother and sis electric were wounded but survived. >> your sister, she doing all right? >> um, no. >> really? >> she's concussions. >> she has a concussions. >> shortly after the initial strike on the theater, maria says what was left of the building came under a fresh artillery attack. >> everyone start screaming that theater is on fire. so we run. russians bombed it. bombs were like this. this. this. >> eventually took nine days for
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maria and her family to get through russian checkpoints and reach relative safety in ukrainian controlled territory. >> i seem very upbeat right now. >> i understand that i'm lucky. thousands and hundreds of people still in there and they bomb. they have no food. no water. and they have no medicine, nothing. i have my arms and legs and my family. my cat is safe. >> this is little mushka, a 2-year-old cat. and she survived the bombing of this. they're now headed to western ukraine in this bus. but no one knows how many people may have died. >> narrator: rubble. russia denied that the forces bombed the theater and russian state tv recently showed what was left of it after russian
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troops moved in to this part of the city. judging by the damage, it was bombed from the inside. there is information that they organized a terrorist attack here. a claim people inside the theater strongly reject. >> are you angry right now? >> no. i just want them to go away. this is ukrainian territory. i don't understand why they come and tell me it's not their land. they're not fighting with an army. they fighting with every citizen. >> maria and her family troush a waiting van. maria hopes her sister can safely recover from her injuries.
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so what is next for her family? >> i believe they're toward the polish border. ukraine is big. it will take two days to drive from here to there. they have to overnight somewhere along the way. they did not say they said that they plan to leave the country. you know, i asked what about perhaps staying here? the ground war has not hit the city. it's relatively calm. it is the first kind of safe place that family had seen in more than a month. and maria said we like it. it's quiet here. it's pretty nice. but, you know, the air raid sirens go ol heefr and still too close to the russian front lines. there are russian tanks less than 30 miles from where i'm stand right now. and this is a family that is just not going to risk that kind of proximity again any time
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soon. >> that's totally understandable. be careful over there. thank you very much. coming up, we're getting new information right now on a story that cnn first broke last month. the hours, hours long gap of then president trump's white house call records on january 6th. that includes the time the insurrection was clearly under way. a member of the january 6th select committee joining me will discuss what this means for the probe when we come back.
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gape of more than seven hours in the official white house records from january 6th. the new reporting from "the washington post" that cbs news illustrating just how big the holes of the january 6th committee is trying to fill
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right now. that detail follows reporting by cnn last month which first revealed a gap of several hours. i'm joined now by a key member of the january 6 th committee democratic congressman adam schiff. thank you for joining us. is there any evidence the phone records were tampered with? >> i i don't know how to explain the gap that is reported. i'm not ready to jump to any conclusions. i can tell you that we have multiple sources of information to try to cover up any blind spots. we don't we lie on a single source. we don't rely just on records we get from the archives or just on one particular witness or another. what we're trying to do is from as many sources as possible fill in exactly what the president was doing on january 6th and of equal importance what he was failing to do while the capital was under attack.
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and i'm confident that we're getting good information. we'll be able to put the pieces together. and one of the pieces right now is why is there a gap reportedly in these call records? >> we know the former president was on calls with the likes of mike lee and kevin mccarthy during that 7 1/2 hour window. why haven't you subpoenaed their phone records? >> you know, i'm not able to comment on what phone records we have smped or not. but we are being very aggressive to make sure we get all the information needed to protect the country that we can put together the full chronology of each and every effort to overturn the election. and one of those lines of effort involve the house of representatives and senate and trying to get senators and house members to vote down the certificate of electors to try to get them to reign in with the vice president or do whatever the president needed done to
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cease the -- stop the peaceful transfer of power for the first time in our history. so we're looking into all these things that we're not going to be shy how we do it. >> i want to play for you, congressman, what chris christie said about trying to get trump on the phone that day. listen to this. >> first i called his secretary. she didn't pick up the phone. went right to the voice mail. then i called his body person. and he didn't answer his phone. then i called the white house switchboard and asked to be put through. and they said he was not available. and then i called his personal cell phone. now i knew that most of the time he didn't bring his cell phone into the oval office. i thought maybe he had it or in the residence. i didn't know where he was. i tried the cell phone. and it went to voice mail. >> couldn't that indicate more about the unusual circumstances of that day than some sort of cover-up, for example? >> you know, it's a good reason why we shouldn't speculate about
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what the reason may be for a gap in that call record. it could be a lot of things. it could be maybe the president didn't want to talk to chris christie for that matter. so we don't know. but we will certainly be endeavoring to find out and we know a lot about what the president was doing during those hours. we know a lot already. and we're learning more each day and that's going to continue. >> while i have you, let me turn to your role as the chair of the house intelligence committee. first of all, do you agree with the top u.s. general in europe who told congress today that intelligence gap may have led to overestimating russian forces, what they were capable of doing in ukraine? >> you know. of it's interesting. i think it has done a really remarkable job, you know, in almost every respect in assessing what putin was intending, in declassifying that information so that president shared it with the world and
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helped prepare the wofrldrld is happening. they use chemical and biological weapons. all those things i think were good intelligence. the one area where i think we may have gotten it wrong is in our understanding of russian military capabilities. but you know something? it looks like putin got that wrong too. >> yeah. >> and, you know, one thing we need to try to figure out is was this, you know, failing in terms of knowing the strengths of the russian military or was this a situation where putin was not confiding in people what his plans were? and therefore, the military was not ready. not because they're not capable. but because putin wouldn't allow them to prepare for what he was planning. >> one thing also impressive is the capability of the ukrainian military th military. they're doing better than what people thought. they thought it would be over in a few days. clearly this is day 34 right now. what is your bottom line assessment right now based on
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everything you know, congressman. where is this heading? >> i think it's headed for a protracted conflict in which, you know, russia depleatstes it resources. i don't know where that stalemated end he's except forever the loss of a lot of ukrainian lives. i agree with what the generals on the show were discussing early cher is the best way to bring this to an early conclusion or an earlier conclusion is by making sure we provide ukraine with every weapon we can to help it defend itself. help it raise the cost on russia for this sustained and bloody campaign. and i think only then when russia cannot sustain their military effort anymore and when the russian public starts to turn on putin will they look for a way to get out. >> congressman adam schiff, as usual, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, wolf.
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capital of budapest. authorities say here as compared to a few weeks ago things are much more organized. once people come in they get processed and the idea is get them to where they want to go. if they want to stay here they go to door number four for local accommodations. door number three would take them to the airport. door number two and number one over here is where refugees go when they want to go to the local train station. making their journey a little easier is this volunteer translating ukrainian into hungarian or english. here she helps us speak with this couple who left behind family as they fled ukraine a week ago. are you worried about them? >> she wants everybody would stay alive and be healthy. >> reporter: she want everyone to be safe. >> finished. >> reporter: she has a gentle touch with the new arrivals. she is warm and kind and
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empathetic because she, too, is a refugee from a suburb of kyiv. she fled amidst intense fighting a few weeks ago. she took this video just before she left of the shelter she used when the bombs were falling. on her way out of the city she took this video of shell casings on the ground. was it difficult to leave your country? >> yes, of course. >> reporter: why? >> because it's your country. it's your land. it's so, so shock -- so surprising for what's happened and for why. >> reporter: she has been here for several weeks with no plans to leave. she desperately wants to be back in ukraine, but for now, she'll help however she can. why are you doing this? >> little help, it's help. everybody want help. ukraine, how you can. >> reporter: today that meant everything from serving up hot drinks to guiding this woman to get her medication. however she can show people that
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she cares and at the end of our interview a hug for us too. and a message. >> help, please. stop this. >> reporter: we will. thank you. >> you great. >> matt rivers is joining us now. what more can you tell us about how budapest is dealing with this constant influx of ukrainian refugees? >> reporter: wolf, this is a number that has just grown exponentially since the beginning of this war. we got the latest data from police here in hungary who now say that more than 500,000 hungarians or ukrainians rather have crossed here into hungary. hungary only has a population of about 10 million people so that is a 5% increase in the population here in just the last few weeks alone. however, it does appear like authorities have things more organized than a few weeks ago and have been able to catch
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their breath a little bit as the numbers of refugees have slowed down a little bit. it is also clear as we saw today they are relying on some of these ukrainian citizens themselves to say, look, you can speak the same language as people coming over. if you want to volunteer we'll certainly take the help. >> good reporting. matt rivers in hungary for us, thanks very much. we'll be right back. unique. shaved. sensitive. all underarms deserve the best care. new dove ultimate antiperspirant. our unique water based formula and 6x more glycerin. helps restore skin to its best condition leaving you feeling confident all day. new dove ultimate.
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i'm wolf blitzer. thanks very much for watching. please join me in the "situation room" tomorrow 6:00 p.m. eastern and log on to our new streaming network cnn plus for the newscast with wolf blitzer week nights 7:30 p.m. eastern or on demand. i'll see you right here tomorrow night as well. don lemon tonight starts right now. don, how are you doing?
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>> i'm doing okay, wolf. it has been interesting to watch. i know there is a wait-and-see approach about what the strategy is for russia now in this war and everyone is taking a wait-and-see attitude as you have been speaking to your guests about because they just don't trust the russians and the russian leader. i think that is with some merit. >> everybody is watching what's going on because the russians are saying one thing but what they're doing is clearly not -- is clearly opposite. >> it is the opposite, wolf. we'll get to it right now. thank you, wolf. we'll see you right back here tomorrow night on cnn tonight. this is "don lemon tonight" here in western ukraine in lviv. cnn's team in kyiv hearing increased shelling throughout the night and there is new video of the devastation in the western kyiv suburb of erpin. after ukrainian forces pushed russian troops out. it was taken by ukrainian nongovernmental organization and provided to cnn. the vides

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