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academy said it could handle a deeply dramatic and shocking situation differently. they had a message for chris rock. they say, mr. rock, we apologize for what you experienced on our stage and thank you for your resilience in that moment. mr. will smith, the academy has begun disciplinary proceedings. thank you for joining us. ac 360 starts now. good evening. tonight in ukraine skepticism about a claim russian military is drawn down. replaced by outright scorn. >> translator: yes, we have negotiations process but they're only words without anything concrete. there are other words about alleged pull back of russian troops from kyiv and cherniev and reduction of occupiers in these territories. this is not a retreat, this is the result of the work of our
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defenders who pushed them back. >> words he said. strikes continued today on the outskirts in kyiv. in chernihiv, the city is under colossal attack. russia is merely repositioning troops, not bringing them home. on top of that, officials agreed with reports that their command zbler chief, vladimir putin, is not being kept fully in the loop. >> on the reports of putin not being well advised, i'm going to be careful not getting into intelligence but we would concur with the conclusion that mr. putin has not been fully informed by his ministry of defense at every turn over the
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last month. >> whatever vladimir putin is or is not being told, he's certainly aware of tactics. the video of a kindergarten is taken by a woman who lives in kharkiv. she describes the destruction from the russian rocket attack. >> this is the sleeping room where children were sleeping. and it was on fire because the russian rocket hit this exact room right here on this wall. the nearby residential houses are also heavily destroyed. >> we do not have anymore information. we should point out the result of that strike. the ukrainian prosecutor's office said 145 children have been killed since the invasion began. according to unicef, 2 million children have been forced to find safety outside of the country. in addition, attacks continue on humanitarian facilities.
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a new satellite photo of a damaged red cross warehouse in mariupol. the building is clearly marked from the sky. it was hit by at least two separate strikes. just ahead of the program tonight we'll talk to cindy mccain, head of the food and agriculture administrations in rome. we begin with christiane amanpour in kyiv. what is the latest there tonight? >> reporter: there's no sign kyiv is under assault but there has been a lot of fighting on the outskirts including the little town of bovary which has been hit twice in the last week and i was there just earlier today. >> reporter: missiles have struck the town 234 a suburb of eastern kyiv twice in a week alone. this tangled jagged mass of metal is what's left of a massive warehouse that served
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food, beer, alcohol that's no longer to be consumed under marshall law. this was coming as they were announcing their deescalation around kyiv. this missile struck here. imagine the good fortune of the truck driver who was loading up to take crates, packages and boxes of food and supplies to the supermarkets in this town and also to kyiv. he managed to survive. we r told three workers were killed. directly west of here russian and ukrainian troops are in irpin. a clear indication this war around kyiv has not gone the way russia planned. whatever the reason moscow says it's retrenched. there are intercepted radio communications verified by "the new york times" show their soldiers distressed from the very start.
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>> reporter: this was west of the capitol in makariv already signaling the focus on civilians once their own so-called properties were out of the way. this security video shows a russian armored vehicle just blowing up a car instantly killing the elderly couple inside. ukraine has lost its fighters too. here in the cemetery, boris the caretaker shows us freshly dug graves. >> reporter: this guy, this soldier died on the very first day of the war.
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it's raining. it's drizzling here today. it's almost as if this city is crying as it mourns its war dead because all of these graves are for the fighters of this place who have fallen in combat since this war began. this grave is being dug but the family can't yet bury their son, a soldier who was fighting in a village 15 kilometers away. it's being held by the russians. they haven't been able to get his body released. >> boris tells me about a father who lost his son, his only child. he asks himself, what do i have to live for now? >> that audio "the new york times" analyzed, so fascinating to listen to. it signals the russian troops have been struggling from the start and they're using open radio frequencies which can be
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picked up by anybody who has the right technology. >> reporter: well, exactly. that is part of their whole sort of basic distress in the field, which has led to them not achieving their goals on the ground. and that's one of the reasons why all of this muddle came out from moscow yesterday, to have them retrench and regroup. we don't know how that's going to play out but certainly the head of british intelligence has delivered the speech in australia that putin has been clearly misinformed about the capacity of his troops. they know the troops have deserted it, left vehicles, refused to follow orders and in one daze case at least have brought down their own aircraft. the other thing from the start, they talked about laying down
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military fire on residential areas, from the start. >> yeah, you can hear them saying specifically residential areas. in a call today president biden told president zelenskyy he would provide military aid. what is president zelenskyy asking for? >> reporter: he desperately needs help and the u.s. says and nato say one of the reasons is not just the heart and the spirit of the resistance of the ukrainian fighters which is key, but it is also the training and all the help, material, we weaponry, all of that they've been getting to fight this fight. they need more. zelenskyy's spoken and done a tour of world parliaments by zoom. today it was for norway. he wanted weapons to take out ships. he's very, very concerned about all of that, particularly mariupol which we all know is
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just suffering the brunt of all of this. it's just terrible. >> yeah. christiane amanpour, thank you so much. appreciate it. my conversation with a member of ukrainian parliament. one she writes russia removing forces and russia actually removing forces are two different things. on peace talks she tweeted, the key point from ukraine, all peace talks only possible of deoccupation. i spoke to her just before air time. i appreciate you joining us. as you know, heavy fighting continues on the outskirts of keefe. is there any reason to believe russia is negotiating in good faith? >> for us ukrainians, there's no reason to believe that because we have had time and time again
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evidence when putin has said one thing then did the complete opposite. we have learned to apply the reverse psychology to putin's words. when he says one thing, he means absolutely different. when he says he's going into phase 2 and concentrate on the eastern part of ukraine, on the same day he sent out missile after missile into eastern ukraine. today -- well, not today, yesterday i was leaving here. i've now actually just arrived in paris for another round of diplomatic works in france. the whole skylights up in every single region several times per night and during the day. this is what putin's peace talks and cease-fire are all about.
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>> one gets messages from russians involved in negotiations say there has been signs of some sort of progress and then from moscow directly from vladimir putin's spokesperson you hear the opposite, no signs of progress. >> well, negotiations have been going on with this escalation. there are negotiations off. evacuation, food deliveries, all sorts of things. troops, movement across the country and along the borders, but at the end of the day what the world is really interested in and what everyone is asking about is when will there be a cease-fire. when will this stop? when will there be peace in the world? there are no answers for that.
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they're not interested in having peace and they're not interested in having peace in a diplomatic way. the only thing that can stop putin's aggression is a united diplomatic effort that will be bigger than russia's force and that will actually kick putin out of ukraine and restrain him inside the territory of russia. >> i'm wondering what you make of the new reporting that u.s. officials say vladimir putin has been misadvised about his forces in ukraine? >> i agree with that completely. when putin started his escalation on the 24th of february 2022 he believed that his army would be met with embraces, flowers and all kinds of congratulations. this is what he was receiving back in 2012, 2013, when a whole
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different ukraine was there. a lot of different ukrainians were thinking russia was a friendly nation, that ukrainians and russians were brothers and sisters. all of that changed in 2014, it was the bloody war which russia had started in february of 2014 eight years ago. since then for eight years ukrainians got clear on the fact that there can be no friendship with russia and that russians and ukrainians are battling as neighbors but it's the worst case scenario right now. we have an enemy, a greedy neighbor attacking us day in and day out. been doing it for eight years. no intent unless it's stopped. >> it was hit by at least two strikes according to new satellite images.
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none of this surprises you, i'm sure. >> no, it doesn't. we have information of russian targets, particularly the winery and storage unit. putin is going in for the long run and looking for a long-term war. these are strategic targets that are being hit by russia and it means that they want to destroy ukraine's supply of fuel and they want to destroy it not for one day or two days, but they want to decide it. this means putin has no intention to go back. he's targeting more and more civivilian targets. he's going in to destroy ukraine and erase ukrainians off the
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face of the earth. >> appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. much more ahead tonight including looking at the parallels including the war we see now and all of the other wars over the years. later senator angus king on what more he'd like the ukrainians to do. get your tv together with the best of live and on demand. directv stream. now get $30 off over 3 months. [yawn] bro trip! if you book with priceline, you'll save more, so you can “broooo” more. [impressed] broooooo. broooo!!!! broooo!!!! broooo!!!! [in unison] brooooooooo!!!! [splash] [disappointed] broooo... good thing you saved on the trip! priceline. every trip is a big deal.
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whatever the pentagon or kremlin watchers may give him, it's hard to argue they are fighting the kind of war he wants the way he wants it. the evidence is plain to see today on the ground and in the pages of history, his history. cnn's matthew chance. >> reporter: russian troops fresh from battle cruising through the devastated streets of a supported city, leveleds by
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blocks and reduced to rubble. it could easily be ukraine in the past few weeks but this is footage from 22 years ago in chechnya. a glimpse of how uncompromising vladimir putin would be. the almost unanimous opinion of these soldiers is if he's ee lekded and his armed forces. >> at the time i vowed to wipe them out in the outhouse. i later expressed regret for those words but not the actions. europe's first war of the 21st century was also putin's war. the tiny george began enclave
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since i was here. intervening to support the break away region, hounding george began forces and rolling his tanks across the border. >> there's been a lot of speculation about where the russian troops are. here they are. inside george began territory and outside the main complex zone of south acettia. the question is how far will they go, relations with the west will endure. >> do you think that period of post-war calm has come to an end? >> i think no. i hope not. >> reporter: he was right, the western backlash against the
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resurgent worker. in 2015 they toppled the pro russian president and she moved quickly to secure has moved into the u tan crass territory. so too did that until -- they restored a sense of pride. >> translator: we understand it is not about the territory, it is about our historical roots about spirituality and statehood and what makes us a nation, and a unified nation. >> reporter: soon putin unleashed his growing military
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swagger even further appealing. the "shock and awe" of russian airstrikes in syria propped up the regime of bashar al assad which missile helping to change the course of the syrian conflict and sending a potent message of russian resurge against. >> reporter: the air is filled with the smell of jet fuel and the ground shoulders. >> now i have missiles and they're being heard once again. pu putin's destruction in chechynya, silver ridge.
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this is completely burned out. given painful russian losses on the battlefield. it's unclear, too, whether he will now double down as he has in the past or back downed like never before. cnn. james clapper, so i want to start with the news that u.s. officials tell cnn that they believe mr. putin is being misinformed. then essentially his advisers are too afraid to tell him the truth. do you, a, think that's likely? i know tony blinken was asked about it earlier. he thinks ifs' not being
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informed? >> well, i think it's quite true, at least in my mind he's not being well-informed. this is against the back drop of him being isolated for 22 years he's ruled and physically isolated for the last two years because of the pandemic. this is typical of autocrat. it's neither up nor down the command chain. the situation here is made worse by how badly -- ashley, i doubt he's being informed about much. he knew enough to purge some people, but generally speaking i don't think he's informed.
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this is not good. this is dangerous. when he's apparently still in the decision making mode and trying decide the way forward in ukraine. he's got his button on -- the largest nuclear button there. the fact that information is not flowing is not good from several dime dimensions. there is an aircraft. i don't know if you've heard, but the tapes -- the radio communications that the new york times has analyzed and are
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available on the website desperately looking food. and they're operating on open frequencies that are being hon tord by any ukrainian citizen who is able to. >> that was a -- i was a lifelong intelligence, they can do their own inkrid deb that this level of communication and security or lack thereof seems to be prevailing. that plays right into the ukrainian's hands because it makes it a lot easier for them to locate targets. if the russians are using cell phones or unencorrected, this is
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capitol hill this afternoon, senators received a classified briefing on what happened. senator king is just back from the region. i spoke to him earlier. senator, appreciate you joining us. i know snmpt 2021. with a little more detail. this is a crucial period that we're moving into now. they seem to be refocusing
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towards the east and they can re recircle them pretty substantially. the other danger is putin returns of him and civilians. like he did in a eleven poe with christ any. and they want to see if the ukrainian forces can keep up the extraordinary level of fight they've had over the next several weeks. we're getting it to them. 6 million displaced. 90% -- i don't think 90 percent
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perks but some are children. here's the irony and here's the danger. as the ukrainians succeed and bring more pressure to bear, the danger is that putin is more desperate and takes more desperate measures. >> i'm wondering what you make of the reporting. full information of the details of the war by his military advisers. it's really dangerous. i think it's that case. he's been getting it all the way along or he has good intelligence and didn't listen to it. >> do you around kyiv they
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believe it's an attempt to reoutfit whatever they have there. >> i think it's both. they made a fundamental mistake at the beginning of the war when they thought it was going to be a cake walk. any general will tell you you don't divide your army. now they're recon kconsolidatre. they're could be solly dating in the south and west. one of putin's strategic goals is a land bridge from rur shah. the other thing ukrainians have
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to be concerned about is that he traps them. he gets them down in the southeast corner and then encircles them and can pound them with ar tillery. they want to confront him and have the same kind of success they had in kyiv. >> appreciate your time, thank you. >> thank you, anderson. there's evidence on the ground that the country's military could use more tools. you'll see the need in several cities including micholaiv. more now from cnn's ben wedeman. >> reporter: somewhere in this jungle of concrete, bricks, twisted metal are more bodies. trapped in the office of the regional governor. tuesday morning wounding many
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more. >> they bombard the city. >> he doesn't normally come to city hall like this. >> from 2014 i felt that the war will be like this. everything you see on me is good for west, boots, anything. i bought it a scum years ago so i -- couple years ago. i learned how to shoot. >> on the outskirts of his city recently downed russian attack helicopters suggest the ukrainian military also saw this war coming. they've managed to stop russian war in their tracks regaining territory lost at the start of the war.
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>> 5-year-old misha making it to mikolyiv's area. this is the bullet riddled car. >> russia's soldiers, he calls them bastards, killing his father and grandmother. as we speak, the air raid siren goes off. taking shelter is an oft practiced drill. stay calm and carry on. ben wedeman, cnn, mikolyiv. >> we'll talk more about the plight of the refugees.
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i want to discuss the plight of the refugees. these newly released satellite images from maxar. no red cross staff were present. military nationalist militia claims these were russian military strikes. just one more example how difficult it is to help the most vulnerable during a war. joining me now, someone who recently met with ukrainian
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refugees fwhiel poland. cindy mccain. ambassador, thank you so much for joining us. i want to get to what you're seeing firsthand in eastern europe. i want to get your reaction that the red cross warehouse was hit by two strikes. i know you're not involved in military matters. how concerned are you about humanitarian facilities not being safe? >> i'm very concerned about it. this has been the issue with having a corridor that's safe to be able to move humanitarian goods and of course people through. it's something we have seen repeatedly coming out of putin and just these kinds of things. bombing buildings full of civilians, bombing the irc building that just occurred. it's tragic. the only way we can stop this and that it can be stopped is for putin to stop bombing and get out.
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>> you visited one of the refugee centers in poland. number one, i was astounded and my heart was lifted what the polish people are doing for the ukrainians. it's an amazing operation, as you know, and it's something they withstood a huge influx of people. they're doing it with great grace and dignity and giving these people digdignity, safetyd they're feeding them and making sure they're moving forward with their plans as best they can. >> all of the refugees, they need not just food and medical supplies? is there enough space. >> i think we're almost there. it's very difficult, especially when it's dangerous to move
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supplies into ukraine. i think those who are coming out are coming out from poland and other countries. they're getting adequate care. the poles are taking care of the refugees coming in. we have a crises here that is now going to affect food, systems around the world. that's the largest bread basket in there. so this has long-lasting and worldwide implications. >> the ripple effects is something people have talked about a little bit but it remains to be seen just how dire that might get with shortages of grain in the middle east because of -- >> right. >> -- fields not being planted in ukraine right now. >> right. i just returned prior to this, pre-planned from kenya and
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madisgasgar. ethiopia may be less than 50%. these are people we're going to take food away from, hungry children, to give to starving that. it's just an impossible event. >> the other sort of unknown in all of this is how long this goes on. >> it is difficult. we have amazing u.n. organizations like world food program, fao is in here, other organizations that are working very hard to be able to feed people and to be able to move glan and substances out of the court. get it in trucks and get it out and harvest it as well.
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this is a huge situation. this crises is worldwide and has ripple effects. >> ambassador mccain, i'm so glad you had the time to speak with us. thank you. >> thank you. thank you. want to tell you an incredible story next, a family forced to flee their home in kyiv. they found safety in a home of a stranger from the u.s. we'll have details when we come back. no way! [phone ringing] hm. no way! no way! priceline. every trip is a big deal.
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before the break, i was discussing the ripple effects of this war with ambassador cindy mccain. a ripple effect, an encouraging one, is how ukrainian refugees have been welcomed into the homes of strangers who wanted to do something to help. randi kaye met one such family who found sanctuary here at a home in the united states. >> i realized something happened
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because at 5:30, maybe, a.m., the neighbors called me and asked, did you hear something? >> she was on a business trip last month near the polish border, when russia started bombing her country. her husband and their three children were hundreds of miles away at the family's home outside kyiv. >> i just asked my husband to bring the kids to me. >> reporter: irina and her husband, oel devised a plan. as your husband drove toward, lviv, you were able to track him on your phone. >> in the whatsapp, there's one option, check your location. i could check where he is. it's the hardest hours when you realize that all your family, your husband, and your kids, driving. and it can bombing and it can be anything.
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>> reporter: when the family reunited, irena thought her husband wasn't able to cross the border since men of a certain age were being told to stay and defend ukraine. so, irina and her kids boarded a train to poland. meanwhile, around the same time half a world away, this man, phillip bradford, was watching the russian siege on tv at his florida. home phillip's mother was croatian, and his wife's step mother was from ukraine. so, he felt the urge to help. >> i heard my wife and my mother and my step mother-in-law, my mother-in-law telling me, get off of my dupa, which is rear end, and go do something. >> reporter: just a few minutes away from phillip's home in cooper city is st. nicolas ukrainian orthodox church. >> i went to the church, and i gave them a couple of hundred dollars, thinking, i've done my good deed like a boy scout.
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and i said, if i can help more, let me know. >> reporter: turns out there was more, a lot more. irina had made her way to miami with her kids. she visited that same church last year. so, when she went back and shared her struggle, a church volunteer called on phillip to help. >> i was told about this mother with three children from ukraine. >> he said, yes, i want to help. i have the big house. i want to give you the rooms for the three kids. >> phillip's wife has been in a nursing home for the last three years, so he's been living alone. not anymore. irina and her kids moved right in. >> i'm almost 80, so it's almost like grand kids running around again. >> how do you feel about a stranger opening up his home to your family? >> i was shocked. now we have our family altogether. >> phillip even insisted irina
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take the kids to disney world, his treat. >> you sent them to disney? >> oh, she told you about that. >> we know all your secrets. >> that's what grandfathers do, i guess. >> reporter: meanwhile, soon after irina left ukraine, she found out men who had three or more children were allowed to leave the country. so, a few days ago, this happened. >> papa! >> papa! >> reporter: upon his arrival, as a gesture of thanks, irina's husband, who will also live with phillip, brought him this bracelet in the same colors as the ukrainian flag. >> what does that bracelet mean to you? >> it kind of makes me one of them in a sense, you know? >> bonded. >> yeah. right. >> randi kaye, cnn, cooper city, florida. >> the kindness of strangers. we'll be right back. plus
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com quick reminder, we've got two new shows on your streaming service, "full circle," which lets me interview a wide variety of people and cover stories you might not see in the day's headlines. and a new show called "parental guidance" which is about parenting, the highs and lows. you can watch on cnn web plus or the cnn app on apple tv and amazon fire streaming guys. that's it for us. you'll also find the news cast with wolf blitzer which is live weeknights at 7:30 p.m. eastern. and wolf is keeping busy. time to hand it off to him. wolf? >> we're all pretty busy, anderson. i am wolf blitzer. this is cnn. the pentagon warned yesterday not to be fooled, and there's further proof tonight that russia is not to be taken at its word. it's not drastically
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