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city has been destroyed by russian apartment. the mayor of churnyev, saying, quote, his city has been under cost of a moment. what can happen to reduce this attack on kyiv? with all the disruption, what is happening with the man behind it? u.s. officials say, vladimir putin has been misinformed by his own initiative defense. apparently, he didn't even know how badly the russian military is doing in ukraine. >> we would concur with the conclusion that mr. putin has not been fully informed by his initiative defense at every turn over the last month. >> the head of british intelligence, saying, russian soldiers are refusing to carry out orders, even asked, shooting down their own aircraft. i want to bring in cnn's rabbani now lived for us. hollow, hello to you.
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thank you so much. below is the new video we are told, ukrainian forces are back in control. that is a big deal. >> is a big deal. as you can see for the last few weeks, really these major battles are happening on the outskirts of kyiv. they're not hitting the center, but they are absolutely brutal. they're beautiful civilian revelations, and it's brutal. the army of, putin is taking some big losses, and big setbacks but as you mentioned, officials in the uk and in the u.s. intelligence agency, saying, there are reports that some of the army troops are refusing to follow orders, and also in one case, accident, shooting an aircraft. what does this mean for zelenskyy? >> 7000 on quitman. >> sabotaging on women. we have seen video, as well, can verify all that, of troops actually hitchhiking away from some of the positions they were ordered to go to.
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that's listen to zelenskyy. he is, an act of defiance in itself, to address the world from the very center of the capital that vladimir putin wanted to take in some sort of blitz operation. this is what he said just a few hours ago about russian resistance to de-escalate military activity around kyiv and the north . >> [ speaking foreign language ] >> translator: yes, we have a negotiations process, but the only words aren't anything concrete. we will not give anything away, and we will fight for every meter of our land. >> we'll fight for every meter of our land. it's interesting to see him there, at night, in the center of the capital, kyiv. >> we've been noticing how this runs, during the time we had to break, and we can see it, maybe not live, but at 11:30, i would assume, it comes out. surprising to see that right
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there, the officer with the capital building. >> important thing, though, to note, as i was speaking to senator clayton, you know well. we talked to him often. he says, that stayed with me. he said, look, the western countries and the western alliance has a watch. the russians have a calendar, though. in other words, if there is a setback around kyiv in these parts of the country now , it doesn't mean that this is a drawback that signals that they will allow ukraine to retain control of these territories that vladimir putin has his eye on. they have a long-term view of this conflict. ketanji brown jackson we have been seeing the horrific buildings. >> these areas actually marked with a red cross symbol. this comes after the maternity hospital bombing. this comes after a theater that was used by 1300 civilians for shelter, bond and got it. at least 300 people, killed. now, this, red cross building
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and facility, targeted. maryopl is the city that vladimir putin said, he was liberating, cortical, from those at, and this what he's doing to that. >> thank you, holla. i want to go now to christian. visited a town on the oscars of kyiv today. a town, being pummeled by russian airstrikes. >> reporter: missiles have struck the town of southern kyiv twice this week alone put this tangled, jagged massive metal and cladding is was left of a massive warehouse that stored food, paper and beer and alcohol that's no longer allowed to be consumed under martial law. this happened at almost exactly the same time that the russians were announcing the de- escalation around kyiv. this missile struck right here. imagine the good fortune of the truck driver who was loading up to take crates and packages and
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boxes of food and supplies to the supermarkets in this town, and also to kyiv . he managed to survive. we are told three workers were killed, but they have never fallen to russian forces. directly west of here, russian and ukrainian troops have been fiercely fighting over the town, and now it appears the russians are retreating from here. a clear indication that this war around kyiv has simply not gone the way russian forces plan. whatever the reason moscow says, it's retrenching, and they intercepted radio conversations, verified by "the new york times," showing their shoulders in distress from the very start. >> [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: this was west of the capital in the very first
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days of the war. already signaling the focus on civilians. once their own, so-called properties, were out of way. >> [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: this security video shows a russian armored vehicle just blowing up a car, instantly killing the elderly couple inside. ukraine has lost its fighters, too. here, in the bribery cemetery, boris the caretaker shows us freshly-doug graves. this soldier died on the first day of the war. >> [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: it's raining. it's drizzling here today but it's always as if this city is crying, as it mourns its war dead. all of these graves are for the fighters of this place, who have fallen in combat since this war began. this grave has been done by the family that can't yet bury their son, a soldier fighting
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in a village 15 kilometers away, but held by the russians. they haven't yet been able to get his body released. >> [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: even boris' heartbreaks when he tells me about a father who's just lost his son, his only child, and who asked what do i have to live for now. christiana umen, cnn, bravia, ukraine. >> thank you , christian. colonel, hello to you. the pentagon says, 20% of russian's forces that had been moving against kyiv were repositioning now, some, likely to resupply elsewhere in ukraine. how does that happen in an active battlefield? >> that's very difficult, don. good evening to you. the belarus border is right here, north of kyiv, right in this area right here . so, what they're gonna have to do is
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they're gonna have to go this way to replenish their supplies are the problem that they're going to have, though, is they're going to have to transfers areas that the ukrainians are active in right now, and if, you know, the past is prolonged in this particular case, you are going to see a lot of action on the way back for these troops going to belarus, or even to russia, which is just right here. so, it's going to be a very problematic thing for them to do, don. i don't know that they can actually pull it off. they couldn't really pull it off coming into kyiv. it's going to be very hard for them to pull off any type of withdrawal, as sparse as it will be to go back to belarus or russia. ketanji brown jackson colonel, the u.s. intelligence agency says, russian troops, going solo, sabotaging their own gears, refusing orders, even after the shooting down their own aircraft. how bad his command and control if they're shooting down their own aircraft?
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>> it's really bad. that is almost a cardinal sin in warfare, when you shoot your own aircraft down, when you have what is called combat fratricide. this is a very significant issue for the russians, because every single thing that they end up doing is really postulated on them being able to have a synchronized plan of operations, but when they do things like this, when they should down their own aircraft, have more our problems like this, they actually are losing that synchronicity of operations. what that means is they are not moving forward in a fashion that is in concert with any type of plan that i've ever worked with. it certainly is not in concert with any objectives that any rational military force would have. so, it's very john travolta the russian war plan. >> russian forces are firing from the sea. if the city of trenton is days
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from falling, does that mean that the russian's next target will be odessa? >> is very lucky. of course, over here, in the western part of the country, this is where odesa is. if mariupol is taken, and i think that's what a certainty, given the type of destruction that we see there, and the types of activity that we're seeing in this part of ukraine, it's pretty clear that the russians will want to move to the west, and also try something from the sea. is basically a blockade there. about 22 ships, still russian ships, in the black sea. many of them have the capacity to send a cruise missile into odesa or any other places they can target from the black sea. it's highly likely that the port area odesa, because it is ukraine's main port, the third-
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largest city, it is highly likely that this is going to be next on the list. so, it really calls into question the idea that the russians are retrenching, doing things differently than they have with the first phase of the war. >> a human rights group says, russian forces have used antipersonnel mines in the east and north east kyiv region. what can you tell us about his weapons, colonel? >> these weapons are among the most heinous weapons of war. antipersonnel, as distinct from antitank lines, coming in basically two varieties. blast hoopla, mines, fragmentation minds. here's an example of a mine. if you look carefully, you can see the top part of it is here. the buried part is right here. is partially buried, partially concealed by what looks like broken up asphalt in this area. the main purpose of these anti- personal minds is to maim
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people, to wound him severely, to blow off and do things are prevented by many of the rules of war. if you remember princess diana had this as a very big effort before she passed away, and this is something that there was an international treaty that governs these mines, but the united states, russia and china, israel and a few other nations don't abide by that treaty. >> colonel, thank you so much. we'll see you again tomorrow. >> you bet, don. thank you. >> the suburb under fire today. >> [ sound of gunfire ] >> listen to that. those explosions, rocking the town. the video you're about to see is very graphic. rescue teams, carrying the bodies of people killed in the strikes. hard to watch, but important to see the true cost of this war.
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let's bring in a member of ukrainian hole, kira ruta. we appreciate you joining us, kira. horrific scenes plan out in the video. this is having real-time, real life. russia may claim that troops are moving away from kyiv, but you say, the shelling in ukraine's capital is worse than ever. what has it been like for you? >> hello. thank you so much for having me. so, this night was also heavy in kyiv. there was intensive shelling, which means that russians may be retreating on the ground, where we are fighting them very well, but they continue destroying and killing us in the air. this is just another example of the way that they're fighting this war, without any mercy, without any rules, and obviously not keeping their word, even if they are giving
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one. so, what you have seen in the outskirts of the city is just one example of what is happening throughout the country. this is, obviously, extremely disheartening, and at some point, we'll have to reveal all of this. at some point, we will understand the total destruction that was made. also the amount of people whose lives were destroyed, the amount of people who were killed by this war. it goes without speaking that our main goal right now is to make sure that we keep our people safe, and we don't lose more and more civilians, but what we see right now, that russians, specifically, targeting civilians, and probably the worst thing you can do is to put a track across the building. the worst thing you can do for your city is to say, oh, it's children here. they are located right here,
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because they could be exactly the thing that russians would hit next to cause more devastation, but the last -- for the last couple of weeks, we have seen that they are targeting, specifically, two types of buildings. the first types would be the civilian buildings they are shooting with women and children and wounded are. the second one, the storages of gas and oil. so, we know what comes next, first, more and more destruction. second, ukraine, at some points key, just out of resources, and ability to fuel our army and feel our vehicles. so, we are strategically getting ready to fixing that. however, again, we will get it once again, with 36th day of war. until we get the support in the air that we require, until we
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get the fire jet, until we get the air force protection, it will be extremely hard for us to win this war. >> if you can believe anything the russians say, how can any type of agreement come out of these talks? how does this war end? >> well, the only ideal disagreement, in my heart, is that we still continue getting people out of the city. so, right now, they are getting the humanitarian convoys out as a bargaining chip, which, okay, just let people out, because they're dying because of starvation. but to get there, we would need security guaranteed from the western countries, for sure. there is no agreement now with russia. we know that they will make it hard. but if we get the security guarantees from nato countries
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and other countries, we will received the confirmation that they will definitely support us in these guarantees, that they will be written, and these guarantees will definitely help us to push russia away. then this piece may happen. however, once again, and needs to be not only just a couple of countries, it needs to be the new global security agreement, the new global security setup that will allow us, at some point, to push the russians back to russia, and make sure that they will never come back again. >> kira ruta, number of ukrainian parliament. thank you. please be safe. we have more breaking news tonight. president biden, weighing releasing a record amount of oil from u.s. reserves up 1 million barrels a day. price of oil has spiked during
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the war in ukraine. the announcement could reportedly come as soon as tomorrow. let me put's brutal invasion of ukraine, shocking the world, but it is what's happening in ukraine, history, repeating itself now? chechnya, syria, the country of georgia. putin has taken what he wants. we'll be stopped this timeme?
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each missile, helping to change the course of the syrian conflict, sending a potent message of russian resurgence. >> this really does feel like the center of a massive russian military operation. >> reporter: the air is filled with a smell of jet fuel.
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the ground shudders with the role of those warplanes returning from the bombing missions. now the missiles are being. once again. put in's destruction in chechnya, then georgia, then syria, is now being visited on ukraine. of course, he has written out tough sanctions and international combinations of this before. this time, it's unclear how much support putin has at home. this is one of those russian- soviet era vehicles, which is completely burned out. given painful russian losses on the battlefield, it's unclear, too, whether he will now double down, as he has in the past, or back down, like never before. matthew chance, cnn. >> vicki, matthew. that's incredible reporting there. vladimir putin's been misinformed by his advisors.
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misinformed.
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that's how a u.s. official characterizes the information vladimir putin is getting from his advisors about how badly the russian military is performing in ukraine. that official, going on to say, quote, his senior advisors are too afraid to tell him the truth. so, someone's who is not afraid to tell the truth, counterterrorism expert, phil yvonne. phil, thank you for joining us tonight. russia looks like you made some big missteps. now we're learning about this intelligence. what do you think? would it even make any difference in latimer put's choices if they were telling the truth? >> i'm not sure it would. i doubt the truth is penetrating the inner circle. i think americans are way too optimistic on this. i'm not. let's look at some of the pieces around anybody like vladimir putin. whether you're in north korea or russia, whether you are in iran. you just mentioned one of the pieces gone. that's the inner circle is not going to tell him the truth. let's take another piece of the media. when he turns on tv, what is he seeing? russian -controlled media, as
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we know, for the past few months, has illuminated any sense of dissent. what other russian people saying? the same thing putin will see when he turns on the tv. we are winning. what does a junior officer seeing in the military? this is really important when you're thinking about things like morale and the will to move, to continue to move against ukrainians. they're seeing or hearing what their superiors are telling them, which is the same thing putin is saying, the same thing the leadership is saying, the same thing the media is saying. i think the westerners, like us, want to believe that putin might be seeing reality. don, i'm doubtful. >> so, why is it so hard to get to this inner circle? what is that all about to get accurate information from that? >> i think there's a couple reasons. number one, fear. obviously, if you look at what's happened with little opposition, what happened to journalists, what happened, as i mentioned, the past couple of months to journalists who want
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to present a different view, they will be illuminated. i think that's too simple stick, though., he asked with a different layer of sophistication to that people in the inner circle watch liberals leave. you saw the environmental minister leave a few weeks ago. they're gonna say, not that it's an indication that we should reconsider what we're thinking they're gonna say, those are people who don't believe in the reestablishment of the real russia. those are people who are weak. those are people who are liberals. we should listen to them. when they leave, that reaffirms that only the strong survive. only the strong state. i think it's a real indication, what we're seeing now, of what we've seen in other totalitarian regimes. the inner circle says, they're right. nobody else, nobody else can get within that circle now. >>'s let's talk about america. the u.s. has been over a lot of the russian intel from the very get-go. telegraphing russianãevery move. a lot of it has turned out to be true, like russian's initial invasion, but what do you think the u.s. is trying to do by releasing all this intel
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publicly? >> i'm finding this really interesting. as a guy who used to protect secrets, watching the secrets roll out the door. there's a couple things going on. the first generation of intelligence a few weeks ago was trying to unify the europeans, saying, we see every move. don't be confused by these moves. don't be persuaded by putin. he's building up troops. he's gonna move. that into was very good. now we're seeing a different kind of intelligence trying, i think, to sow dissent within putin's inner circle, talking about things like differences between defense officials and putin. i think this is fascinating. i don't think it hurts american intelligence, because you don't know where this stuff came from. so, you can figure out how to root it out, but be clear, the intel has transition. how to unite europeans, how to slowly, maybe, maybe because i'm not sure of how, but maybe sow dissent among people who support putin. not only in ukraine, but elsewhere. >> how do you think -- what has happened -- how do i want to
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say this? our intelligence, you know, the so-called great russian army. everyone around the world, is so afraid of the monster russian army. then we see what's happening when we have this small country, quite frankly, ukraine, holding back this enormous army. what happened? why did we think the russians were so powerful and has such a powerful military? >> finally somebody asked me this question after like two months. finally. i've been waiting for this forever. let me give you a simpler clinician. >> you're welcome. >> thank you, don lemon. two pieces for any intelligence problem. what somebody can do. that is capability spread how many tanks they've got. how many armored personnel characters how many people. what somebody can't do, that scalability's. let's take another basket. what they will do and what they want to do. if you went into ukraine two months ago, could you have guaranteed that the ukrainians would have had the will to
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resist like that? not talking about tanks. not talking about planes. could you have guaranteed that the russians, even with the expertise, the tactics, with their military manpower, with their tanks, that they would not have the will and the morale to proceed? the hardest thing for intel is getting in somebody's brain. we might have under-anticipated how tough the ukrainians were, and overestimated whether the russians would move on. i don't think this is an intel failure. i think it's a classic case of trying to get in somebody's brain and feeling. we didn't know what they felt, ukrainians showed us they're going to fight. >> thank you very much for that. >> expressed, don. finally. thank you. >> a. i've been wanting and anybody wants to know. thank you, phil. hope you are well. >> thank you. >> from a coffee shop and a bar to a refugee shelter. i met with the young journalist here, doing everything she can to help fellow ukrainians find a place to stay.
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the u.n., now saying, 4 million refugees have fled ukraine since russian eye invasion more than a month ago. the many who have remained in this deceased country are trying to help fellow ukrainians. today i visited a shelter here, put together by some young ukrainians. it is a performance space with shops now housing displaced
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people seeking safety from russian shelter. >> this was a photo studio, antique room. now it's a shelter. >> when bombs started falling on her country, 29 journalist nadia shanko knew she had to act. >> one day, the morning, 24 of february, we walked up, and we understand that this war is coming on all territory of ukraine. >> everything changed? >> anything changed. >> she and her friends founded what might be the most eclectic shelter in a building she calls the wild house. on the first floor, a coffee shop and bar, along with a clothing shop upstairs, a performance space. all that, used to shelter evacuees when the war began. >> we wait for a young dude, who felt that he could be not just passing on this war. we decided, what we can do?
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oh, we have place? we understand that a lot of people, like our friends, started to come, and they need a place to stay. next day, we take first things we can take from our place, like pillows, like medicine, food. >> they provided housing for more than 300 people. >> there was big table. you can take some tmac, coffee, everything was free. >> now evacuees live here. across the hall from a barbershop. one of those stranded here is maripora, unable to return to his home in the donyest region . >> engine about this part. it's very hard.
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i think some years, i need to wait. >> but he is grateful to have a safe place with his friends. >> thank god, since my friends, my lucky fate, as i was displaced. >> as the war continues, they're working to displace the displaced in an informal network of 20 small shelters across the city. >> we want to give carrying support for other people. >> doing good in the midst of the bad. back when people, kids, families, they're in danger, you need to do the best of what you can. so, we did. >> nystrom, nadia. nice job. be right b back.
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all right. this is breaking news. comedian chris rock speaking out for the first time since will smith slapped him onstage at sunday's academy awards. rock kicking off his comedy tour in boston tonight saying that he's got something to say, but maybe not yet. the comedian telling the audience at an earlier performance tonight, i had written a whole show before this weekend. i'm still processing what happened, so at some point, i'll talk about that s.
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it'll be serious. it will be funny. but right now, i am going to tell some jokes. at a second show just moments ago, he implied that he hasn't talked to smith since the slap. rock's fans telling cnn they stand behind him. >> i think, personally, that will smith was kind of in the wrong. you know what i'm saying? a comedian is a comedian. unfortunately, they say what they say. >> well obviously, the person instigating violence is in the wrong. right? >> how do you think chris rock handled himself? >> amazing. his reaction was consistent with what you would think a host would, you know, react. >> all right. well, will smith now facing possible disciplinary action from the academy. cnn's brian todd has more now. >> reporter: the board of governors of the academy of motion picture, arts, and sciences has initiated disciplinary proceedings against actor will smith for violating the academy's standards of conduct, according to a statement from the academy. violations, which it says include inappropriate physical contact, abusive or threatening
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behavior, and compromising the integrity of the academy when smith slapped chris rock live at the oscars. >> that was a nice one. okay. i'm out here -- uh-oh. [ laughter ] oh, wow. wow. >> reporter: in its statement, the academy also apologized to rock and said will smith was asked to leave the ceremony and refused. comedian wanda sykes, one of the three co-hosts of the oscars, broke her silence on ellen degeneres's talk show. >> i just felt so awful for my -- my friend. you know? chris. and -- and it was -- it was sickening. it was absolutely -- i physically felt ill and i'm still a little traumatized by it. >> reporter: sykes's co-host, amy schumer, posted a statement on instagram saying, i'm still in shock and stunned and sad. an uncensored feed from a japanese outlet shows how rock and smith reacted immediately afterward.
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>> will smith just smacked the shit out of me. >> get my name out your bh [ bleep ] mouth. >> wow, dude. it was a gi jane joke. >> reporter: how could the academy punish smith? >> i can see them possibly taking steps about his membership in the academy. i mean, they could remove him from the academy. they could take away his voting rights for future oscar votes. they could take away his participation in other academy events. and they could ban him from coming back next year. i think that's most likely. >> reporter: what most observers don't expect is for the academy to take away the oscar smith just won for king richard. the academy didn't take oscars away from harvey weinstein after sexual assault allegations were leveled against him. and director roman pa lance ki
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was awarded an oscar while he was a fugitive from the u.s., decades after he pleaded guilty to having unlawful sex with a minor. the academy did expel weinstein and once expelled an actor for violating the academy's voting rules. brian todd, cnn, washington. >> what a mess. brian todd, thank you for that. thank you for watching, everyone. our live coverage continues. a l can help you build a complete financial plan. visit letsmakeaplan.org to find your cfp® professional. ♪
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the united states this hour. i'm hala gorani reporting live from lviv in ukraine. any hope that russia would keep its promise to scale back its attacks on ukraine has been dashed by another day of missile launches, air strikes, and shelling. we want to start with a hard-hit city of irpin just west of the capital, kyiv, take a look. the mayor of irpin reports that half of the city has been destroyed. water, electricity still out. uninhabitable, basically. much of the video from the region is graphic and heartbreaking, and some of it we cannot show you because it is too graphic. emergency workers ventured out on wednesday to collect some of the dead bodies. the mayor says irpin is now under full ukrainian control but russian soldiers are still

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