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tonight, i'm standing in boston in front of the wilbur theater where chris rock will take the stage yet again, i went to both shows last night erin and in second show, he said he and will smith have not spoken which is shocking to know he has not apologized directly to chris rock. >> thank you so much for your reporting, and thanks to all of you, "ac 360" starts now. good evening from ukraine, john burman here, significant day at the start of what could become a critical point in the war, we will certainly ask military analysts tonight but some of the sides playing to even civilian eyes. ukrainian troops defending kyiv, continue pushing russian forces away from the capitol, even as a portion of the pentagon says, about 20% leaving on their own, some withdrawn from the
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chernobyl disaster site north of the city, the company running it says russian troops dug trenches in the highly contaminated isolation zone, received what it said were significant doses of radiation and quoting now, panicked at the first sign of illness. cnn cannot independently confirm that but imagine the effect on morale which apparently is poor across the board. speaking today, head of britain's intelligence agency, gchq said and i'm quoting here, we've seen russian soldiers short of weapons and morale refusing to carry out orders, sabotaging their own equipment and even accidently shooting down their own aircraft. meantime, vladimir putin signed the order today calling up 134,000 draftees for its spring military conscription effort, many of the enlisted russian personnel in ukraine, as you know, are conscripts. that said, for all the russian losses, especially in and around kyiv and sides of russian redeployment away from the area, they remain an existential
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threat elsewhere. new video from reuters of russian-backed troops firing rocket-propelled grenades in mariupol neighborhood and this, this is what weeks of bombardment have done to the strategically important city, by some accounts hanging on by a thread with ukraine's president saying the situation in south and east of the country is, in his words, extremely difficult. today, russian military officials promise to reopen a humanitarian corridor for mariupol to zaporizhzhia starting tomorrow and if that hell scape video were not enough to show what this war is doing to the city and its most vulnerable residents, there is this, and we should warn you, this is not easy to watch. a little boy named dema wounded in mariupol, a zaporizhzhia
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hospital, separated from his father who is being treated for his own wounds elsewhere in the building . dema is just three years old. according to ukraine's defense ministry, at least 148 children killed since the invasion began. cnn's ivan watson in zaporizhzhia for us tonight reporting on the fight for mariupol, cnn chief international anchor christiane amanpour in kyiv,
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nnic robertson in brussels and kaitlan collins at the white house. we begin with christiane amanpour. >> reporter: at first you notice the line of villagers waiting for humanitarian hand outs, waiting for bread and basics to get them through the difficult days. the first week of the war, a shell hit us near the greenhouse, we barely survived says this woman. we had help from strangers around us, they gave us bread and canned food. we wouldn't have managed otherwise. no one here knows when this war will end, or whether russia still has designs on kyiv. the frontline is about a mile away. for now, an uneasy calm prevails ever since the ukrainian defenders stopped the russian advance here. it was february 28th, they say, day four of the war. they want to show us how they did it, but first we have to clammer over the bridge they downed to see the armored column they managed to take out.
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the river bank littered with their skeletons and this was a turkey shoot. russian armored vehicles and tanks had come off the road to avoid the antitank mines only to find themselves unable to cross the bridge and unable to reverse in time, ukrainian forces tell us none of the soldiers inside survived. a little further up the road, two tanks have been virtually smelted, blasted almost to smithereens, 40-year-old veteran fighter proudly tells us this was his handy work. we all here have one role, to keep the enemy off our land, he says. first thing they did after seeing the village, they started to shell houses, just like that. they didn't see us, they didn't know we were here, so they just started to work on houses. and so i took the tank in my sights and i fired a rocket and goodbye to him. the destroyed vehicles are stamped with an o. the ukrainian officers here tell us this identifies them as russian units that entered from
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belarus to the north. olig is the officer who commanded this operation. as for now, looking at previous fighting we've had, i can tell you we are trained better, he tells me. we have stronger morale and spirit because we are at home. they are afraid, but they go because they're made to. he's been battle-hardened ever since the first russian invasion in 2014. he says his side has enough weapons, ammunition, and determination to win. i can tell you, i'm almost sure the russians are regrouping and not retreating, he says. besides, we are preparing ourselves to go forward. we're not preparing just to defend here. u.s. and british intelligence say putin seems to have, quote, massively misjudged this situation and clearly, overestimated the abilities of his military to secure a rapid victory. this old lady tells us, i've seen one war and here we go
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again. i wish putin would go away. the people of this land remain stalwart and the soldiers remain dug in, hoping they could continue to withstand whatever putin has in store for them next. >> what a perspective. christiane, what are you told in the fight tonight? >> well it's rare to get to see these destroyed russian tanks and we've been told, yes, some russian forces are regrouping and potentially going to belarus to refit, resupply and maybe be deployed elsewhere, but also were told to watch out, because the russians could continue to use air and missiles and sure enough they have been so have two missile strikes in downtown kyiv today, very close to where we are, but just downtown, i mean it's really quite rare to see that. so not sure exactly why, there was clearly type of target. that may be just to harass the
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ukrainians while they tried to move around and redeploy elsewhere. just not sure. >> no question, i haven't seen images like the ones you showed us, ievan, what more have we learned about the buses going to and from mariupol. >> reporter: well the big question is how to evacuate the estimated more than 100,000 civilians believed to have still been trapped in the russian siege lines under the bombardment of mariupol. this morning, the ukrainian government announced that they had gotten a message from the international committee of the red cross from russia, from the russian military, saying that there would be an evacuation allowed, so the ukrainians said we'll have a cease fire and announced they were sending 45 buses in the direction of mariupol. by the end of the day, the ukrainian government says the buses didn't reach there, that around 30 of them were held outside of a nearby city that's
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been kind of a stop along the way out of mariupol called berdyansk and that they weren't allowed to pick anybody up and that another 12 buses stop said in another russian occupied city called maritopol and some 40 tons of food and medicine c confiscated by the russian military. that said, about 14, 1,500 civilians were made able to make it out all the way here to zaporizhzhia where i am, in their own vehicles, and we've seen those kind of trickles of vehicles coming out day after day while we've been here. cars that are bashed up by the russian shelling of mariupol, but are being used to ferry people out. the russian defense ministry announced it will try to open up a route for civilians to escape
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tomorrow, april 1st, friday and this decision being made at the request of the leaders of france and of germany and the russian defense ministry is asking the red cross and the united nations high commissioner for refugees to help facilitate that process so we'll be looking to see if more civilians are helped to get out. it's one thing to come out in your private car. what about the elderly who don't, maybe don't have vehicles, don't have younger people to take them out? that's why the buses are so important right now, to try to help people out of that stricken city, john. >> yeah, the civilians need those buses to get through. kaitlan, what has president biden been saying about what is going on here? >> reporter: well he's echoing the intelligence assessments, president is very isolated and looking inside the tense situation happening inside russia because the at white house they believe the russian leader is not completely informed on what's happening on the ground, the reports you're
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seeing about the frustrations the russians are facing when it comes to strategy actually seeing on the ground, what he said today, he believes putin has been isolated by this, either firing or putting on house arrest the top advisers because of how poorly this is going for russia and how much it is going against what he believed they were going to do which is overthrow the government there, take kyiv in a few days and have this warm reception from ukrainians which reporting has shown is not happening. so this does confirm what u.s. intelligence is saying, the president did offer a caveat saying this isn't hard evidence, it's based on intelligence, not always a clear picture but a good insight and so far, the american intelligence on what putin was going to do has been pretty solid of course, when we saw coming to this invasion. also mirrors what our allies are hearing, you heard the british foreign secretary saying today russia is struggling, didn't know there were conscripts in
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ukraine, shooting down their own aircraft, raising concerns inside the white house tonight what is actually happening inside russia. >> christiane, did they believe what the russians were saying in terms of pulling back of kyiv? >> no, in fact, the commander in charge of the operation we saw today the column that came into kyiv said look, they can say all they want, we don't believe they're retreating, they are regrouping and we will be ready. but i think it's interesting to get a look at what we saw because the guy that took the tank out with his javelin told us that what he did was motivated by the fact that these russian columns were absolutely just firing at civilian houses and structures for no reason as they were just motoring down the road. there was no resistance, there was no attack on them, until that happened and then they popped out from where they were hiding and took out the tanks, but i think it's really important to realize that that
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is their tactic and you can see it happening in mariupol and i've been told that anybody or the latest leaders who have been talking to putin do find him still very entrenched in his belief he is facing down terrorists and militants in pair , mariupol, and elsewhere and don't give sign of giving that and that is worrying . >> yeah and these were civilians, kaitlan, what of the white house's decision to tap into the strategic oil reserve, domestically or internationally and more russian sanctions in the works. >> reporter: they say always more sanctions to put in place, tighten on the reductions more than they have, it real remains to be seen the trajectory of this invasion, one thing i will note, the white house said today they don't think a call between putin and biden will happen unless there's significant deescalation, that's a high bar for even a conversation to happen between the two of them but when it comes to oil prices of course that is a problem for
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president biden here at home and there's only so much the president can do when it comes to gas prices so he is tapping into the emergency reserves in the united states, going to do so the next six months straight, a million barrels a day so ultimately 180 million barrels of oil they're going to release but of course that only accounts for about 5% of american consumption so when you talk to experts in the industry, think it will only have a modest impact on gas prices and today, officials here repeatedly asked when consumers could expect prices to go down as a result of this action, could not predict anything specific, but it is biden showing that he's doing what he believes he can to try to lower these prices but also acknowledgic the fact that this isn't likely to change anytime soon, john. >> all right, kaitlan collins, ivan watson, thanks to all of you. next, retired generals on the state of the invasion going into week six of what vladimir putin likely expected would only last
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this is video from the kharkiv area in northeastern ukraine, regional officials say russian troops bombarding the area over the last 24 hours including residential area and gas pipeline, whatever the short comings, russian forces still retain the ability to inflict destruction on a large scale. talking about that tonight, their apparent redeployment, doubts on the redeployment and new conscripts and where this leaves the larger war, joining us, retired army general mark hertling, also peter zuack, fellow at the wilson center kennen institute. i want to start with you, it seems nobody in american,
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ukrainian military intelligence believes russia's claims they're really pulling back the forces around kyiv to give peace talks a chance to progress, could you give us an idea of what they are doing, a strategic redeployment or because they have to? because the ukrainians are making them move. >> no one believes it john, it is just a repositioning of forces, getting forces out badly mauled by the ukrainian forces. many of the russian battalions are just shemslls of themselves now, trying to reposition personnel strengths, that's going to be difficult, truthfully, russia's got a hard road in the next couple of weeks to try to put these units that i would suggest there's been a number of 10%, 15% losses, in this main combat units, i'm going to suggest it's a lot higher than that, even close to 40 or 50%. so what you're talking about is trying to get forces that were
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in contact out of there, they're defending the areas with artilleries and rockets and missiles to try to keep the ukrainians in one place, but this repositioning of forces is getting back into belarus, and trying to get out of the frontlines is going to take a very long time. weeks, if not months. >> yeah, look, you look at all the destruction that christiane's piece, it looks like more than 10 or 15% losses. ukrainian president zelenskyy announced he removed two generals serving the security service of ukraine, calling them antiheros who, quote, have not decided where their homeland is. he doesn't give any specifics there, but how do you interpret that? >> i think we have to look at the entire, if you will, russia and ukraine break-up of the soviet union and there were, you
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know, there were leftovers if you will from that period and where overwhelmingly, the bulk of the ukrainians that came from that era, their military and security services, there may very well be a few sympathizers in there or maybe affected by the carnage, so i buy that, that he may have a few informers, if you will, in his ukrainian intelligence service, which, by the way, has been doing incredibly well by all accounts. >> john, if i could add to that, because peter brings a very good point. my counterpart in ukraine, when i was commandening europe was a guy named berovial, in a session over a couple beers one night told me his biggest problems was getting rid of some of the high-bound soviet officers trained in russia in his force. that was one of his major concerns, i got to get rid of these guys because they're
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corrupt and more loyal to russia than they are to ukraine, so i think that's something like we're seeing right now and peter has seen that for sure in eastern ukraine. >> that's interesting. i'll put this to you, ukrainian officials say there are no longer any russian troops at the chernobyl power plant, transferred control to ukraine, russian earlier in the conflict showed little regard for safety when it came to radiation safety or nuclear plants, what is this move backing away from chernobyl, general zuack? >> well, i think general hertling would say, this is all about the russians have taken them five weeks, we have a phrase in the army, taking care of soldiers, and they have been driving through there because one of the main roads to the front in kyiv goes right out of belarus through there and you had troops on the site of chernobyl, you know, there have been basically keeping the staff there, a bit under the gun, and
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so, so yeah, it's a mess, and i think that you got reports anecdotally about troops that are complaining and don't want to be there, getting sick. and that's creating a problem and now i think the russians are forced to address it. bottom line, they haven't taken care of their people to let them go through for five weeks the way they're doing or even be garrisoned or staffed there. >> yeah, just one more example of that. general zwack, general hertling, thank you both very much. just ahead, we'll discuss putin's strategy for peace talks and whether russia will honor that humanitarian corridor scheduled to open tomorrow out of mariupol. broooo!!!! [in unison] brooooooooo!!!! [splash] [disappointed]d] broooo... good thing you saveved on the trip! pricelinine. every trip is a big deal.
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another write off. that's a foul! what kind of call is that!? definitely “not” watching basketball. not us. i wouldn't do that. next round of negotiations between u.s. and russia expected to resume tomorrow, however chief of staff tells christiane amanpour he has a small view of peace talks. wanting to negotiate, but from a small position, still, rushopin russian leaders abide to open the humanitarian corridor tomorrow out of mariupol, nic
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robertson in brussels, we spoke just before air time. what's the latest you're hearing on the diplomat, talks and is there a consensus on what vladimir putin's strategy is at this point? >> reporter: it seems to be to shore up time to get military advantage on the ground by saying there can be some level of talks although it's interesting, he was talking about the italian prime minister today, the kremlin's read-out of that phone call was dragi asked him and said it was time for you to have a face-to-face meeting with president zelenskyy. putin said the time is not right, we're not there yet. so there's this talk and we understand that there will be some level of engagement of diplomatic engagement again, at the end of this week, but it seems clear from the top that they're not really ready to make significant compromises. >> as we mention, we're learning that at the request of both france and germany, russian military says it will reopen the humanitarian corridor out of mariupol.
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how much confidence is there that the russians will actually refrain from attacking that space? >> reporter: i think there's zero confidence, quite simply because russia doesn't follow through on its word and it, ukrainians, the german chancellor, the french president, have all seen this. they're engaging directly with president putin and what he says doesn't materialize. so i think at the moment, russia is really just letting a few people go in dribs and drabs, they know it's tieing up ukrainian military assets inside mariupol, trying to defend the civilian population there, according to ukrainian officials today. humanitarian supplies that have been trying to get to some of the besieged towns, the russians have stopped those in their tracks. so it's not at all clear that russia will go ahead and do this. it has congressman of the situation, and it will take tactical advantage by making this drag out, making it play
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out slowly. >> so there are new details from british intelligence sources about the morale of the russian forces. what are you learning on that front, nick? >> reporter: yeah the head of gchq which is the equivalent, i guess of the nsc in the united states, saying the morale was so bad with russian forces that they were actually sabotaging their own weapons, not having enough weapons, as well. refusing to follow orders, and in one case, accidently shooting down one of their own aircraft, and the assessment from fleming is just the same as we've been hearing from u.s. officials that none of the top military officials close to president putin want to tell him the truth, that it's got troops in the frontlines with bad morale, bad equipment, bad directions, bad leadership, making bad
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decisions and not actually able to make the military gains that putin wants and expects them to make. that points to the isolation of putin. if he's isolated on military information, is he isolated on other information, for example how sanctions are impacting him? >> nic robertson, thank you so much for your reporting. so you heard nic talking about the british report on the isolation of putin and how his generals do not want to tell him the truth about the performance of russian troops in ukraine, as kaitlan collins mentioned, president biden alluded to the same assessment earlier today. >> that's an open question. there's a lot of speculation, but he seems to be, i'm not saying this with a certainty, he seems to be self-isolating and there is some indication he has fired or put under house arrest some of his advisers.
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but i, i don't want to put too much stock in that at this time because we don't have that much hard evidence. >> joined now by william, former u.s. ambassador to ukraine, ambassador taylor, as we mentioned, president biden says putin seems to be isolating himself and punishing, maybe, some of his advisers. to that point, do you agree with u.s. intelligence assessments that putin is being misled by his military? >> john, i think he probably is. the intelligence service is no better than i, but i, i'm prepared to believe them. what we do see the corroborate to that is a lack of direction, a misunderstanding of what's going on on the ground with his military, going very badly, doesn't seem to understand that. it's also consistent with the lack of direction from the president to his negotiators. the negotiators, they're meeting, the russian negotiators that have been meeting with ukraine's don't have any
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instructions, don't have any proposals, don't have anything to put on the table, unlike the ukrainians that have come with serious proposals, obviously given a lot of thought and are clearly in touch with president zelenskyy. president zelenskyy has his top political adviser, that is the leader of his faction, servant of the people faction in the rata, in the parliament, who is co-chair, co-leader of that delegation down there talking with the russians, and they, as you say, probably will talk tomorrow but it isn't clear at all that the russian side is connected at all to president putin who doesn't seem to be giving guidance at all and not ready to negotiate apparently and that means he doesn't understand how bad it is on the ground. >> that's a good point there, different messages coming from the talks themselves and moscow about the talks. if there is tension between putin and his top military officials, what impact do you think that would have here on the ground in ukraine, the course of the war itself?
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>> john, i think it had a big effect right from the beginning. the president putin, again, divorced from reality, probably thought that the ukrainians would not fight hard. probably thought the ukrainians, well we know he thinks that the ukrainians are not really a nation, don't really defend themselves, so the military probably had, was not prepared for the fierce fighting that, the strong fighting, the terrible fighting that they're getting beaten up, that they encountered when they went, when they went into ukraine. so that, i think, had a really bad effect, that putin's lack of understanding, bad briefing, bad concepts, bad notions of what it is, what he has done to the ukrainian people to unite them has probably filtered into a way, the russian military has worked and not worked in ukraine. >> well, we're all witnessing a humanitarian catastrophe in mariupol. do you believe the russians will actually deliver on this latest pledge on top of all the others
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we heard over the last days and weeks to reopen humanitarian corridor there? >> john, we have no reason to believe that the russians will do what they say. they've not in the past, every now and then, a corridor is used and some people get out, and that's a good thing. while we're talking about mariupol, the ukrainians have an idea, a notion of hero cities, and mariupol is clearly going to be going to go down in ukrainian history as a hero city. it has defended itself and defended its civilians, the military has performed heroically under terrible conditions, terrible conditions, and they are still holding out after what, 36 days. so this is an amazing story, a hero city in mariupol. >> and deputy mayor there told me they're fighting block to block, defending that city at this point, ambassador. you said that russia, losing more soldiers, economy is spiraling down, putin may be up
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for more negotiations. do you have any sense of what the ukrainians would agree to there? >> they've been pretty clear, john. they've been thinking about how they can provide their own security. they used to think it would come from nato, now pretty much understand they're reluctantly a come to the conclusion it's not going to be nato anytime soon so looking at other things and have ideas they've put on the table with the russians that have to do with neutrality, a strong neutrality, a militarized, fortified neutrality that would allow them to maintain this great military that they are demonstrating now. they want to keep that in any future system that does have neutrality, they want to be able to defend themselves and the other thing they put on the table is the idea of guarantors, other nations that would guarantee ukrainian security if they gave up their option to go to nato. >> ambassador william taylor, thank you as always.
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coming up, the aftermath in a small border town after russian troops withdrew over the weekend, we'll be joined by reporter there, shpiegal, who was there and tells what he saw with his own eyes. ecame my focu. lavender baths always calmed him. so we turned bath time ininto a business. ♪ and building it with my son has been my dream job. ♪ at northwestern mutual, our version of financial planning helps you live your dreams today. find a northwestern mutual advisor at nm.com hey businesses! you all deserve something epic! so we're giving every business, our best deals on every iphone - that's the one with the amazing camera? yep! every business deserves it... like one's thare-opened! hi, we have an appointment. and every new business that just opened! like aromatherapy rugs! i'll take one in blue please! it's not complicated. at&t is giving new and existing business customers
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large out-of-state corporations have set their sights on california. they've written a ballot proposal to allow online sports betting. they tell us it will fund programs for the homeless, but read the fine print. 90% of the profits go to out-of-state corporations, leaving almost nothing for the homeless. no real jobs are created here. but the promise between our state and our sovereign tribes would be broken forever. these out-of-state corporations don't care about california. but we do. stand with us. over the weekend, ukrainian forces were able to retake a town near the border with russia, placed one local official last week called the
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hottest point of fighting in the region this is what the area looks like now, images released by the ukrainian government, showing burned out buildings, damaged homes, hospital, and as awful as the destruction here what you don't see here may have been far uglier, something our next guest knows well, kristof roiter was there and written a detailed piece on the aftermath the spiegel magazine. >> what was it like after the occupation by the russians? >> we arrived as the first foreign journalists probably about 46, 40 hours after the last russians had left which the local people didn't know first because there is no working mobile lines, no landlines so when we came there was basically the first hours, people there to go out to their city which many
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of them, they hadsn't to do for one month and incredibly scenes of people meeting each other, not knowing if the other still alive. some had tears in their eyes to see the destructions, others had tears in their eyes because were simply happy to have survived. it was, in augll this, freezing cold and emotional moment for the people. >> what a moment, what a moment that must have been. and we don't have that much visibility or have it until this point on what life has been like for people under russian control. so when the russians were in control there, how did they treat the civilian population? >> this is the interesting thing, because trotskanetsk is like a case study where you really had russians, up to 600 for one month, and when they
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entered, there was basically indifference. they did not interact with the local population, they came, they took the empty police headquarter, the train station but then after one week approximately, were shelled for the first time and learned rather quickly that everybody in the town was against them and many were informing the ukrainian army, politicians, about their location, so the ukrainians would shell very precisely the tank positions, et cetera. plus, after a few days, the russians ran out of food. they had food rations obviously only for very few days and what they did was to loot local supermarkets, loot local people and to become very aggressive
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towards everybody, basically, out of panic, paranoia, that everyone who gets near them could be an informer and then they get shelled and die. so they introduced a curfew after 3:00 in the afternoon, whoever was out on the street risked to be shot and many were shot, captured, then tortured in the headquarter, in the interrogation in the basement of the train station. so you could see, or we could learn from the accounts of the people and from evidence we saw like remnants of stuff they had looted, destroyed doors, destroyed atms, locks, how the behavior of the russians had escalated from kind of clueless game into a murderous hold. >> what about the russian troops themselves, the people you
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talked to, what do they tell you about how much the russians knew about the war and what their mission actually was? >> yeah, this is the especially, if you take into consideration how brutal they behaved after a while, this is the completely, bewildering element of this because some people like the head of security of the big chocolate factory, he talked with the russians because they accepted him as kind of official spokesperson or somebody who is important and the russians ask him in mid march, late march, where are we? have we taken kyiv? have we taken kharkiv, is zelenskyy dead? they had no clue what was happening in the country so they had to tell him what was happening and when people asked him, so how long will you stay? will you go somewhere? what's the mission, what do you want from us? the only answer they would get was orders. we have orders, and obviously,
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the order were go to trostyanets, go there and wait for further orders, but there was no plan. there was nothing that the russians could give, could explain why are we here? why are we treating this town like a hostile environment, which it was, but what do we want here? they didn't know. >> kristof reuter, thank you so much for this reporting, a window we haven't seen. really appreciate it. >> my pleasure, thanks a lot. up next in washington, the department of justice is expanding its investigation into the january 6th insurrection, and jared kushner, the son in law and former senior adviser to the former president voluntarily meets with the january 6th committee, these details coming up. can you hand me some potato skins. theyyyy're loooaoaded! turns out,t, michael buffer speaks like that all the time.
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in addition to the news from here, there are key developments back home in the january 6th investigation. jared kushner, the son-in-law and senior white house adviser to the former president voluntarily met with the january 6th committee today. also the department of justice is expanding its own probe. for more, let's go to ryan nobles on capitol hill. there are signs the investigation into the attempt to overturn the election, there are signs it is widening. >> reporter: that's right. up until this point, the department of justice had been pretty focused only on the actual people that stormed the capitol on january 6th, those responsible for the violence we saw on that day. now we're getting signs that the probe is starting to widen beyond just those individuals and into the folks that were responsible for planning and funding the rallies that took place here on january 6th. we have determined that there have been a number of individuals that have been subpoenaed that were connected
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to those rallies, that were part of the fundraising apparatus. at this point, it doesn't appear these individuals may be targets. this may be more of a fact-finding mission, as merrick garland and the justice department widens the probe. they've only focused on the low level offenders that were here committing the violence and not the ones fomenting misinformation around the election. this is a sign the probe is starting to get just a little bit bigger. >> so, separate but related to this, ryan, what have you learned about what jared kushner did or did not tell the january 6th committee today? >> reporter: well, in general, the committee seems pretty satisfied with his deposition today. representative of virginia told cnn earlier that he did volunteer a lot of information that they were looking for. this was a voluntary deposition of jared kushner. and we know he talked to the committee for a significant amount of time, more than six
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hours. that is pretty standard. the committee usually conducts lengthy depositions. but when they fill that entire time, it likely means they're at least likely getting answers to the questions, the questioned they posed to jared kushner. he of course is a key player in all of this. he wasn't in washington on january 6th, but he was one of president trump's closest advisers. of course he's his son-in-law and was in and around the white house and the campaign in the time between the november election and january 6th, where trump and his associates were doing a lot to spread information and peddle these lies about the election results, john. >> very quickly, place this along with everything else, including the developments involving jenny thomas, the wife of clarence thomas. >> reporter: well, it shows that the committee is starting to zero in on a focus here. they are definitely interested not just in what happened here january 6th but the broader picture of how all of this election misinformation led to what took place here on january 6th.
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and of course, john, we still have in front of us those public hearings, which should take place later this spring. >> ryan nobles, thank you so much for that reporting. up next, the outpouring of support for one ukrainian family we told you about last night on "360" now living in florida and how randi kaye's story about that has inspired others to help.
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his kindness has inspired others. the president of the church told us a family in orlando who saw the story called to say they would also welcome ukrainian refugees in their home. others called saying they would help too. plus the mother told randi kaye she and her family have been invited to the cooper city community meeting next month, and a neighbor has set up a gofundme page for her and her family. the link is on the screen. let's hand it over to wolf blitzer and cnn tonight. >> thank you very much. i'm wolf blitzer. this is "cnn tonight." we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. is vladimir putin now arresting some of his own aides over frustration? are some of his sabotaging efforts in ukraine? there is more evidence of growing tensions within putin's own in