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new show called "the news cast." you can catch me here at 9:00 with the update on ukraine. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "out front" next. zelenskyy talking about the captain leaving the fight, and russian soldiers may have faced radiation. it can lead to skin damage, and damage to internal organs and bone marrow. he once worked for putin. there are many in the russian government who don't like what putin is doing. he's my guest.
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let's go "outfront." good evening. the breaking news. the ukrainian president zelenskyy breaking his silence about a fuel depot in russia. >> translator: i did not discuss any of my orders as commander in chief. the leader of this state, you need to understand that on that territory, that you mentioned, you have to know, they were placing their shoots systems and firing those missiles themselves. >> surveillance video captures what appears to be the moment missiles hit the fuel tanks. it's incredible to see. setting off explosions, and the russian milt burned fiercely throughout the night. and low flying helicopters cro crossed and fired.
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it's been a crucial city for russia in the entire attack. it's not far from kharkiv, russia has used belgorad. sbm our friend was there that night. the air space ban, and all the tanks moving. he witnessed them moving in, he witnessed the missiles being fired. he is going to join me for more. and the white house did not say whether they kous discourage. >> given we have not confirmed or commented on the reports and neither has ukraine, i'm not going to get in a future hypothetical. >> it hass a russia is
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intensifying his air strike. and meanwhile, in mariupol, the captain leading the fight speak to us. he is part of an ultra nationalist far right that is part of the ukrainian military. the captain saying the city was home to half a million people, and it's now filled can complete destruction and death. >> the amount of corpses on the street, men, women, and children, and no one can bury them, and we see the russians firing on civilians and the defenders. the city is collapsing. the city is on fire. it's terrible to see it like this, because this is our home. >> mountains of corpses. the captain also tells us that according to witnesses, rescue crews recovered 400 bodies, including children from the
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mariupol theater, the building used as a shelter. we heard of a death toll of 300. he is saying it is 400. and they still don't know the full number. we are live across ukraine tonight. i do want to start with fred out in kyiv. that night, it was in lviv, and you were in belgorad. er you were seeing it happen on the night it bebegan. you know how important it is to the war. tell us what is unfolding there tonight? >> hi. you are right. belgorad is crucial. it is right across the border, and it's really difficult to ever overstate how much equipment they have in belgorad. not just the bases there, because it is a military city, but all the other equipment they put together there.
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so it wouldn't come as a surprise the ukrainians might try to attack that area, but the same time, it's an extremely difficult feat to try to attack a target that is so far away from the ukrainian boarder with helicopters, if they manage to pull it off, it would be an amazing counter attack, and really one that could have taken a lot of courage from pilots flying. let's take a look. >> reporter: it could be a bold and brazen counterattack by the ukrainians. the social media video seem to show two attack helicopters firing at an oil depot, selling the place ablaze. the russian military acknowledging the incident. at april 1st, two ukrainian helicopters entered the territory at low altitude.
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they launched a missile attack on the soil storage. as a result of the missile hit, individual tanks were damaged and caught fire. video of the after math shows the area ungulfed in blames. belgarod is a militarized city. it was here from the russian forces crossed the boar and attacked kharkiv with tanks to ukrainian territory. but the russians have support in this area. the ukrainians have not acknowledged they have hit the depot. >> i can neither confirm nor reject the claim that ukraine was involved in this. simply because i do not possess all the military information. >> reporter: the strike comes as
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russian forces have been suffering setbacks in their invasion of ukraine, withdraws some forces in kyiv after failing to storm the city. the russians now saying they want to focus their offensive on the east of the country, which includes kharkiv, where there is an up tick in shelling in recent days. and talks with russia and ukraine to end the fighting continues. and spvladimir putin has been briefed only the chopper attack, and it could impact the talks. the conditions for continuing the negotiations, the kremlin spokesman said. the strike will do little to hold up russia's invasion of the ukraine. if they are behind it, it will show they are not afraid to strike back at the country that is attacking them. >> so just to make clear to the
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skrou viewers with the helicopter pilots want to do to fly to the oil facility, they have to fly over positions inside ukraine. the russian positions at the border on the russian territory, all the air defense systems, to reach that city and get back. an extremely difficult task for helicopters that don't really fly that fast. again, the russians say that the ukrainians did it. so far, we haven't heard from the eweukrainians. it would be a massive gut punk if they manage to pull it off. >> all right, thank you very much. now, everlin farkas and seth jones, director of the security program. he serves as adviser to the commanding general of the u.s. special op rations forces in afghanistan. the target in belgorad was
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carefully selected. do you think is a party for ukraine? >> i hope so. i think it's important to note, as fred said, this is a militarized town, or city. i don't know the exact number of residents. but this was a military site. this was a military attack on a military location. it was limited. i do not consider it escalatory. and seth is going to show us the action in the region is about to heat up even more. >> right, and you know, the proximity is crucial here. let me show everyone a map, where belgorad is, in respect to ukraine, and south, a major russian military.
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the mission of defense tweeted, the probable loss of fuel and ammunition supplies will likely add short term strain to russian logistic strains. it may be particularly affected. how big of a problem could this be for russia, seth? >> well, i think we know, erin, russia's biggest problem, or one of the biggest problems in ewe yan, in enter around kyiv, is logistics. it's a supply of fuel and weapons and ammunition. they had to put some of the depots across the border in russia, where they can get there by rail, in some cases by trucks. so what the ukrainians are now doing, if this is what they indeed did, is hitting the logistic weaknesses the russians have already suffered in the country, and i think what this
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shows is that this is a pretty savvy move if the ukrainians did this, to go after one of the most significant vulnerabilities we have seen with the russian military so far. >> i want to play more of the exclusive message we should tonight from the ukrainian commander in moariupol. he talks about -- it's a must hold city for them. he describes it as mountains of corpses. he says there are active street fights, street by fight, and the death toll is going to shock the world. here he is. >> the figures, in a city with more than half a million people, which was and is under, and the air bombs. there are shelling, and 90% of the buildings are destroyed. we cannot hope for a miracle.
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we have lost too many ukrainians and continue to lose them now. >> do you see any chance that either side gives up mariupol at this point? >> no, i didn't. and what is really alarming is the russians continue to hamper any attempts to get civilians out of harm's way. they are going to have block by block fighting, you want to get the civilians out of the basement and out of the city. and my understanding, some civilians continue to be able to escape, of course at great risk to themselves. but the organize sized attempt by the red crossing on the u.n. to take out refugees today, and it started actually -- i think a couple days ago, has failed. so this is really frankly at the feet of the international community. because it's not something that we can expect just the united states and the european allies to solve. >> and it's -- obviously, his
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estimates are there could be still a couple hundred thousand people left, and the death toll, 400 people died. he thinkst it's 400 or more. i want to play something else to you that president zel enskyy said about his own life and role in this. >> do you know how many assassination attempts you survived? >> translator: i don't know. but there have been some. there are things which is difficult for me to count. my intelligence says there were such attempts, and with information about some arrivals of planes, there were other details. but listen, i'm alive. i'm not wounded. i'm in tact. so it's hard for me to talk about this. so many people are died in our
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country. >> seth, how much does putin want zelenskyy dead as part of this? how crucial is that aim? >> i think it's a bit of a double edged sword. zelenskyy has been incredibly effective of a communicator from ukraine to the rest of the world. he is a major reason why the united states, the germans, continue to provide weapons to his country. in that sense, i think the russians would kill them if they could. they have used the gru to kill defectors in the united kingdom. the down side, this is something putin has to think through as well, it would be an additional rallying cry from the west, and zelenskyy, now the hero martyr if that is to happen. i suspect putin would rather
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have him dead than alive. >> thank you both. i appreciate your time. >> thanks. next, russian troops were possibly exposed to significant doses of radiation at the chernobyl power plant. we will tell you how it happened and what it can mean. now, a russian official says putin's days are numbered. and will smith releases a statement about his future with the academy after he slapped chris rock. only from discover.
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tonight, russian troops who occupied a nuclear power plant in chernobyl may have been exposed to significant doses of radiation. the neshl atomic energy agency says tonight when russian troops first occupied the site, movement on the ground released radiation. it can cause horrific damage to internal organs and bone marrow. kit be horrific in terms of death. david mckenzie is out front. what do we know about this? >> reporter: we are putting the pieces together on the story, and it could be disturbing. you remember the disturbing images of tanks heading in to chernobyl and huh the russians taking over chernobyl, having the workers hostage. now, more details are coming in.
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apparently, according to the agency, the russian soldiers were digging in, and putting fortifications and trenches in what is known as the red forest. this is inside the exclusion zone, the area around chernobyl after the worst nuclear accident after its kind in history that saw the worst fall out from the reactors and if they were in that area, experts believe they could have been exposed to high levels of radiation. the ajen say cy saying the last 24 hours or so, the russian soldiers were panicked. they have been leaving over the last 24 hours and that area is now under ukrainian control, we believe. but uncleerp how sick if at all, the young soldiers are. you remember also that the russians have come under great criticism on the actions around nuclear reactors, using heavy
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artillery. and the head of the atomic energy agency telling cnn there may have been a rise in the radiation levels house of the heavy armor. and i mate have come down and they are seeking answers from the russians where there is any kind of sickness from the soldiers in the aftermath of them departing chernobyl. he also says he is looking to head to that zone as soon as possible. to investigate. erin? >> thank you very much. it's incredibly disturbing. i want to go to james clapper. retired lieutenant general in the u.s. air force. this is something -- i remember talking to you from ukraine when they first came to chernobyl. and you had such serious concerns about it. so the main treatment line we heard that day, the russians
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know the danger of ukraine. they couldn't put soldiers on the attack field. it's chernobyl. but now we're hearing, young soldiers are driving through a no-go red force, digging trenches possibly. what is your reaction when you hear this? >> first, just incredible recklessness or incompetence or stupidity that they can be so cavalier about a sensitive area about chernobyl to allow their troops to dig trenches. it's just ridiculous. words fail me. and the other thing this shows is how vulnerable these places are, notably nerve chernobyl, where the shield such as it is, the earth, is pretty thin. i have been concerned about this
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for 15 of the russian -- the ukrainian nuclear reactors, and if something, an attack, an errant bomb, errant mis missile, we would have a real disaster on our hands. >> it's amazing that russian shall sent young kids in the nuclear power zones without training or education, and in some cases, there are reports some of the kids didn't understand what chernobyl is, the meaning of that word. what do you think it could mean for russian troop morale if some of the ol jers are sick as reports indication they are. when we already have so many issues in the russian military on morale. >> first, it shows the total disregard for russian troops. they just apparently consider them as cannon fodder, as
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expendable. now, this sort of thing undoubtedly has already gotten around among the troops. the morale is not very good to start with. you add this, and the russian leadership, the russian leadership, in disregard for the troops that was not bode well for their morale. >> general, thank you very much. >> thanks. and next, anti-theft tags on canned beef and pork. that is what it has come to in russia. we have a special report what is happening. and russia is striking a key city in ukraine. tonight, this may be the start of another major assault. ( ♪ ) (music throughout)
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sanctions are. and russia is plunges in recession. matthew chance is out front. >> reporter: in russia, they're calling it a sugar pack. western sanctions on the country bite, ordinary people have been snacking. they are jostling with each other in the russian city to buy sugar off the back of a truck. good bless you, the voice says, as they push a trolley of sugar to shoppers. they scramble to grab as much as they can before supplies run out. the pub lic not to panic. and a prominent russian economist says not to panic. >> what you are seeing is that soon, we could see a much
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bigger, much more serious economic impact because of the sanctions. >> yes. the shortage, it's a temporary -- most of the shortages are a temporary problem. so that will be solved. the goods will appear. it's an acute phase and everything is fine. with the quality of life, the income, that is not there yet, but that will be -- this problem will be accumulating and becoming more and more engrained in the coming months. >> reporter: in fact, that impact on quality of life is already being felt. these are the crowds that flocked to an ikea superstore in moscow the day before it closed down. russian brands expanded production or simply pulled out. jobs may so go permanently. more seriously there are concerns of a shortage of western medicines starting to
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have a real impact on people's health. people like anatasia, and her father w a brain condition. we asked everywhere, no one has his meditation. and russians cut off from medical advances and technologies that may set him back, and cause him. an economic do threatening their nation. i was born in soviet times, and the russian town. she speaks of the challenges like economic restructuring and food stamps. we got over it all, she says.
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valentine says she doesn't mind the prices have gone up. it will straighten up in a year. after years of navigating sanctions there is a belief that things will work out this time too. >> russians are used to sanctions. but the terms of the economy, it's much more damaging than the sanctions previously. >> previously, the sanctions haven't really worked in terms of changing russia's policy, changes the kremlin's policy. do you think there's a chance these sanctions in that case will work? and they will force the kremlin to change course? >> honestly, i doubt it. just with the logic of the current regime in russia. they -- it's a thing about putin. he doesn't give up under pressure. it makes him more persistent. at the expense of the country.
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>> economic pain, it seems, is a price the kremlin is willing to let its own people pay. >> reporter: the kremlin is trying to strike back to prevent its economy from imploding, by forces unfriendly countries to pay for gas in russian rubles instead of dollars. with the war continuing to rage, it's set for more pain. erin? >> thank you very much, matthew. out front now. vladimir milov, former deputy of ministry, and adviser to alexei navlny. you write that many russian
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officials currently in power now are currently devastated by the consequences of putin's invasion. that that's true. they want to openly, and everybody understands that that's a unique situation. for the most time ever, we are moving in a backwards direction. we had a lot of difficulties in the '70s and '80s and '90s and we are some what open to the world and the direction is very different. right now, russia is disconnected from global markets, logistics and so on. this has never happened before, and the people in power fully realized that. when i say devastated, i mean it. >> president biden was asked this week specifically about reports that putin is misinformed by some of his advisers. these people in the upper
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echelon of power. i want do play for you what president biden said. >> i'm not saying this with a certainty. he seems to be self-isolating, and there is some indication he has fired or put under house arrest some of his advisers. >> vladimir, do you this they is happening? that putin has put advisers under house arrest? >> i hear some rumors. it's really hard to verify and strongly advice against believing against anything you hear. we don't know what a credible situation there is. but yeah, to some extend, he is really misinformed. but there is another side of the coin that he was deliberately cutting himself off from undesired information. so putin leaves right now, in a self-inflicted bubble. it's a two-way street.
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he deliberately built a system where he banished people for bad news and he really only heard what he wanted to hear. so this is the reality that we're facing right now. >> so these advisers you talk about that are devastated by the consequences and know the reality, are they communicating with each other, are they -- do they pose a threat to putin? is there any sort of conversation or organization to any of this? or no? >> this is a very important to understand. because communications between government officials are intercepted by security services. so they are surveilled to a bigger extent than the opposition is. if anything, two people, three people or more will start to discuss that putin has taken the country in the wrong direction, this is to -- with large
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certainty will be reported to putin, which is why they're afraid of talking about the failures of putin's policy. they are afraid to talk one on one about that. this is an important factor that constraints all the moves that can potentially counterhis policies. >> in your op-ed, you wrote that putin's days are numbered. the events since february 24th have made an end to putin's regime as we know it. of course if he truly believes his days in power are over, that raises very serious questions about what he might do in the final days or hours or what he could do. how do you see this, vladimir? and how much longer do you think he will remain in power? >> he still maintains strong power. he can hang on for some time. but few weeks, months down the road, many more people inside
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the system will begin questioning what he is doing. ordinary russians will express discontent with the deteriorating situation, huge losses and the war and so on. this is someone he never experienced. he was lucky all along. not this time around, and the russi russians society, the questions where we are going, to lead the situation. actually, this is what i meant when i was talking about his days being numbered. >> thank you so much. i really appreciate your time. >> thank you. and next, russia turning its fire power on a key city tonight. raising fears it could face the same fate as other cities that have been levelled by russia. plus, the breaking news. will smith just resigning from the academy of motion pictures, arts and sciences and he has more to say about his assault on
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russia tonight launching an
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assault in the key port see of odesa, with fearing this could be a bigger assault. more from odesa tonight. >> reporter: this market is where you come to trade gossip and rumors, dlollars for ukrainian cash or hunt down rare books. it's where college students come for coffee and a sense for peace. i want to ask you, with everything in ukraine, everything seems normal. >> we don't know what is going to happen in tomorrow or a week. >> reporter: it looks normal. is it normal? >> everybody is afraid. if something will happen here, we will protect our city. right now, we can sit with a normal night. >> reporter: no navigate the streets, you see the remaining
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residents try to go about their daily lives. baa large part is transformed in a fortified zone with anti-tank barricades bracing for an attack for russian troops from the black sea. it's a ghost town. the residents would normally be preparing to hold what is the april fool's parade on this street in the heart of the city. it's afraid parade that started years ago. but now this area is completely fortified. and this year, there will be no parade. instead, civilian volunteers are mobilizing to support the war effort. we're in a bomb shelter in odesa, and this is where they are making bullet proof vests. we meet this man sealing the steel plates of vests for front line soldiers. he asked what that we call him
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martin. we heard that russian forces are leaving kyiv. do you this they are going to start coming to odesa? >> translator: we already beat their ass. we will do it again, he tells me. >> reporter: the concern here is the war will intensify in the south. before the war, martin worked as a professional scuba diver. he says he looks forward to look ex exploit exploring the russian ships. we see dozens of families that escaped to odesa, from the worst war zones looking to find food and clothing. she is waiting with five of her six children. . you come from a village. raw in the cross fire.
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how frightening is that? i was scared for the children most of all, she tells me. she says her family had to walk through a forest to escape shelling. tears well up in her eyes as her husband tells us russian soldiers broke in their homes, taking everything they could from the families in their village. >> translator: when we came here, the volunteers said to say what we need. i'm ashaked. i worked all my life and never asked anyone for anything and now i have to ask. >> reporter: her little girl wipes away her mother's tears. mother, why are you crying, the girl asks. because they were shelling us a lot, the mother tells her. not far from the family, we notice a father teaching his daughter to ride a bike.
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a poignant moment in the midst of a surreal world. for a minute, we heard a barrage of systems firing in the sky. three missiles, and fired at the odesa area. one military official says they missed the target. another says there are wounded on the ground. erin? >> thank you very much. next, breaking news. will smith saying he is quitting the academy of slapping chris rock at the oscars. theed a cadmy responding. at liberty butchemel— cut. libeberty biberty— cut. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only y pay for whatchya... line? need. action. cut. you can't say that. [phone rings] sorry. is this where they're gonna put the statue of liberty? liberty...
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chalking, painful and inexcusable, joining me now and i know you have been covering this abizarre story as it develops, what else has smith been saying? >> yeah so i'll read you a little more of what smith said, he said the list of those i have hurt is long, includes chris, his family, many of my deer friends and loved one, all those in attendance and global audiences at home, i betrayed the trust of the academy and denied the winners the chance to celebrate and be celebrated for their extraordinary work. i am heart broken. here a little more behind the scenes on oscars night. it's become one of the most controversial moments in oscars history. it wasn't just oscars viewers who thought the moment when smith slapped rock might have been staged, the man running the entire show, will packer, says in a new interview with good
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morning america, he thought so too. >> i thought it was a bit like everybody else, once i saw will yelling at the stage with such vitreol my heart was robbed, said did he really hit you? he said yeah, i just took a punch from mohammad ali as only chris can. he was in joke mode, but could tell he was very much still in shock. >> reporter: smith played the ba boxer in the 2001 film, ali. cnn obtained new video from a seat filler inside the oscars, showing a new video of the incident, filmed this time from behind smith's wife jada pinkett smith, lapd police were ready to arrest smith that night. >> said this is battery, we can press charges, you can arrest
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him. as he was talking, chris was being very dismissive of those options like no i'm fine. >> reporter: academy of picture arts and sciences released a statement this week saying they asked smith to leave and he refused, academy leaders told smith's publicist to deliver the message to the actor. now smchris rock saying he did t want smith removed from the show. >> they were going to remove will smith, i said rock has made it clear, he does not want to make a bad situation worse. >> reporter: packer praised rock for how he handled the situation. >> did he save the show that night? >> i think he did. he certainly saved what was left of it, at that point. >> chris handled the moment with such grace. >> reporter: rock told fans during his stand-up show in boston this week that he's still processing what happened. >> so, that's some [ bleep ].
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>> reporter: a member of the audience shouted f will smith, rock reportedly told the audience members, no. >> that story, so bizarre. so what does this resignation mean? >> right, this is what everybody wants to know. the resignation means smith can no longer vote as an academy member so during award season can't vote for upcoming winners. this does not mean though, he cannot be nominated in the future. we could see him nominated for an academy award in the future but also they could ban him, we might find out april 18th he's banned for attending the oscars indefinitely. >> that would be obviously pretty significant if that were to occur. thank so much, chloe. next, block buster jobs report, but we'll tell you the one number that really stotood t to us.
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the rise in competition among women underscored the outsize role womens played in care giving, as schools stay open, the ranks of those out sick due to illness plummets. while it's important, it is just one step. there are still a million fewer working now than in february, 2020, rhyight before the pandem hit, according to national women's law center. there's a long way to go. thanks for joining us. >> good evening from ukraine, we have new video we want to show you. it is disturbing, but as we point out on this broadcast, these sorts of images are necessary to show, in order to emphasize the horror of this war. this is from the town of bucha, just outside kyiv, the capitol, it was recently liberated. part of the ukrainian's counter attack, now it's unclear if the bodies you see on the ground there are military or civilians, however it is clear from the