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life imitates art. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. i have a new favorite tv show. it's on netflix. it's about a citizen plucked from obscurity to lead his nation. think peter sellers in being there, but with a modest twist. by the way, anybody remember the line "i like to watch"? this show is called "servant of the people" i high school teacher gets 15 minutes of fame
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when his students record him engaged in a rant about government corruption. his political star results in him being elected president." servant of the people" ran in ukraine 2015 to 2019. think veep meets parks and recreation. the star of the show volodymyr zelenskyy was actually elected president in ukraine. today, of course, we're accustomed to seeing zelenskyy in his signature green t-shirt. a new millennium version of winston churchill's siren suit. it's easy to see why ukrainians would want him as their leader and why the world would be rallying to the cause. a new survey resealed 72% of americans have a lot or some confidence in zelenskyy to dot right thing in ukraine. that's higher than any other national leader tied to russia's
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invasion of ukraine. president biden, by comparison, at 48%. france's emmanuel macron, 55%. germany olaf schulz has the confidence of 53% of americans. vladimir putin, 6%. you have to wonder who they are. something else, the depiction of ukraine and its capital kyiv. we've grown so accustomed to seeing footage of people fleeing the country or the remains of bombed and burned out buildings. it's easy to think of ukraine as perpetually drab and dreary. but here in "servant of the people" is the pre-putin ukraine. vike brant, colorfully lit, beautiful, modern,s c cosmopoli and umping to be free of corruption or feeality to russia. and as to the country on which it's set and the man who now leads it. this is ukraine the way it was,
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the way it will be again once putin's advance is permanently repelled. and there's no way zelenskyy could have played this role without possessing a high level of intelligence, wit, charm and resolve as sean penn himself an oscar winner told me yesterday, 20 years from now, when documentaries about him are shown, kids will see them and say of zelenskyy to their parents, mom, dad, did you know that zelenskyy was once a comedic actor? "servant of the people" an appropriate title for a great show about ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. now, today's page 1 story of "the new york times" reports that recent polls and interviews show many russians are now rallying around vladimir putin. joining me now is a reporter with the moscow bureau of "the new york times." he's currently working out of istanbul. he shared the byline on the
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story entitled "shaken at first, many russians now rally behind putin's invasion." ivan you have written, five weeks into president vladimir putin's invasion of ukraine, there are signs that the russian public's initial shock has given way to a mix of support. what has changed? >> people basically had to make a choice to support it or not support it. there was a battle for russian minds and the state-run media was making sure that as many people get on vladimir putin's side. and it seems they have succeeded so far. and many people have either left or faced criminal prosecution, because people who went out in the first days of the invasion were brutally arrested and many were sentence to administrative arrest. the government has shown limits
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of its power and went beyond, to make sure that many people support the war or at least saying they support the war. when a pollster calls you in russia and asks you whether or not you support vladimir putin, whether you support the war, if you say, no, and that answer might, you know, bring a criminal prosecution against you, then i think most people would say that they do support the war, even if they think otherwise. >> right. so, i wanted to ask, as a matter of fact, catherine, go to the slide what la vada says is approval rating. 86%. how reliable is the reporting? can you rely on any of this? >> well, you can rely on this to show the dynamics of where the
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public opinion has developed -- where public opinion is being developing into. it's not reliable in a sense of giving you kind of a picture of the country as a whole. because many people just give for what -- what pollsters say are socially acceptable answers, meaning that -- >> right. >> meaning they say what they think is expected of them to say. we should just be aware of that. this problem existed in russia for a long time. because russia has been an authoritarian country under president putin for a long time, now, of course, this problem has gotten worse. >> ivan, last week, a week ago when president biden was leaving poland many of us debated the propriety of him seemingly, extemporaneous, and calls for regime change. and one of the things i said here and on radio was that seems to play into putin's hands to rally his own people. in the "times," you say this,
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polls and interviews show that many russians now accept putin's contention that their under is under siege from the west and had no choice but to attack." are biden's words now being used by putin to bolster his own support at home? >> of course, everything that's being said or done by the west against russia now is being used by putin. and his very effective machine of propaganda. which is not a sole way of propaganda. it's like, you know, like the cnn. but with cnn, essentially. the government spends millions and millions of dollars on state-run tv channels. so they use whatever is being said, for instance, you know, that russian oligarchs being canalled. russian singers being removed from russian opera houses. everything is used to portray this as a western war against
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russia. it's not russia waging war. but the west is raging war against russia. and russia had to respond to it. ukraine is just a battlefield for this grand war and russia is being attacked. it feeds again that we're going to see that the russians prepare for the current situation, the current war -- >> well, the hope has been -- the hope has been and also from american-based corporations, professor jeffrey sonnenfeld at yale, a appreciate guest on this program. he's sort of a keeper on the list of those corporations that have turned their back on russia. everything from starbucks to mcdonald's. you know the story. >> yes. >> does that play into putin's hands in so far as instead of the people getting angry at putin like what the hell are you doing in ukraine? knock it off. instead, they turn their sights and their antipathy towards the
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west? >> well, have to think in stages. we've been only at it five weeks now? >> right. >> the russians haven't really felt the effect of sanctions. the effect of all of these western stores being closed because there's some accumulated wealth. people still do have western goods. and they live in a basically globalized economy for 30 years. so, i think it's too early to see that. for now, i think for many russians, the more comfortable psychological reaction is to accept it and to kind of rally around the flag. because if you do not accept it, then you have to act. and the course of action in russia is now very high. so, basically, that's a very kind of predictable reaction that most people have. >> understood. >> but more it's long lasting, we don't know yet. >> right. and, of course, if they had access to your reporting and other reporting from the west and maybe that support level
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would take a nosedive. ivan nechepurenko, thank you for being here. >> thank you, michael. >> what are your comments? hit me up at social media, i'll share some on social media. what do we have from the world of twitter. do you think it's possible the show "servant of the people" and the subsequent election of zelenskyy contributed to putin's paranoia of western principles? dave, i have to believe the show was well-known to putin and it pissed. and he ended up seeing a very westernized kyiv and ukraine. you got to watch this show. it's such an eye-opener for me to understand the man, even though it's fictional, to understand better the people of ukraine, as well as the state of their country before putin did what he did. up ahead, after much president, the biden administration is now ending
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title 42. that's the pandemic era restriction on border migration. it will happen on may 23rd. so, what's going to happen when the estimated 170,000 plus hopefuls start showing up at crossings? that's this week's survey question at smerconish.com. i'm asking this should the biden administration list title 42, a pandemic public health order, which has stopped many migrants from crossing the u.s./mexico border? go to smerconish.com. vote on the survey question, register for the newsletter while you're there. also, it was the slap scene debated around the world if will smith haven't ignited the night would anybody about talking about oscars? ratings have been tanking for years. question, will it strive -- tonight, men's final four
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when title 42 ends an estimated 170,000 people are expected to try to interveneia the mexican border with as many as 18,000 presenting per day. while senate minority leader mitch mcconnell attacked the end of the policy, several prominent democratic senators voiced opposition to the change. including mark kelly and kyrsten sinema of the border state of arizona. joe manchin, maggie hassan and mark westerner of virginia. >> here's what he told alisyn camerota. >> i would be very reluctant for this administration to end this trump policy until they have a real plan in place. i'd be worried that the border will be overwhelmed. i want to hear a specific plan with adequate personnel. and, frankly, i'd like to see the state department do more on countries, particularly the northern triangle country to try
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to stop the flow of some of these economic refugees. >> this week i want know what you think, go to my website at smerconish.com. and answer the question, should the biden administration list title 42, a pandemic public health order, which has stopped many migrants from crossing the u.s./mexico border? joining me chris cabrera, he's the spokesman for the national border control council. they represent 12,500 border control agents. so, chris, the president of your organization has said that chaos is coming and we're not prepared. what exactly is it that you need? >> we need to have a plan in place. we just can't pull this -- bull this program out and not have anything to replace it, much like they did with the migrant protection program. it caused huge numbers that we've seen in the past year of folks coming in. >> so, what is it that you fear? like the world now knows the date. may 23rd. i assume that's now circled on
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the calendar of people who try to smuggle folks into the united states. do you have intel as to where you might be hit? where folks might be amassing and try to cross the border the most? >> well, if you look at our border now, where aren't we being hit. we're being hit in every sector in every station along the southwest border. and once this program gets pulled from us, we're going to see mass flooding at the border, the unfortunate part of that, you're going to have a lot of people taking their lives in the hands of smugglers. and a lot of people are going to get harmed in. and some won't make it along the way, just for a promise that may or may not be there. >> you know that the flip side, that the argument, the argument against what you're advocating. people say, it's a subterfuge now. title 42 is simply being used to stymie asylum seekers. that's why giving the waning the
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pandemic, title 42 has got to go. you would say what in response to that? >> well, you know, there's several ways to request asylum. crossing over illegally is probably not your best bet, if you're trying to do something right, breaking the law is probably not the west day to do that. there's many ways to claim asylum. a lot of people will have things to say but they haven't seen what we see on the front with first hand. when you see plan b, girls put on birth control, because their family knows bad things are going to happen along the way. that's not a way to start off. it's terrible for the kids to go through what they have to go through. >> right. i understand that argument, but the reason you've had this weapon of sorts to protect against so many coming into the united states has been a pandemic that is now on the wane. so how can politicians, how can the biden administration justify that using as as an excuse to
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turn everybody away? >> well, it's not turning anybody away. you can request asylum from your home country. you can request asylum from a consulate office. from an embassy. you don't have to cross the border to do it. you can go through a port of entry. crossing the river is the not the way to do it. if you present yourself at a bridge, you're not breaking a law. if you cross through the river, you're actually breaking the law without inspection. so if you're looking to do right, with the first act in this country breaking the law, that's no way to get started off here. >> you heard me reference 170,000 getting ready to cross. what kind of numbers do you have about the whereabouts of people who seek to exploit this change on or about may 23rd? >> we heard as 400,000, to 500,000 a month. up to 200,000 a month which
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we're seeing now which consequentially two was 20,000 a month. wherever they're looking to cross, where they've been crossing rio grande, we're getting hit thousands per day. every sector along the southwest border has seen huge jiumps and they're going to exploit every weakness they can. right now, the weakness is the laws and policies of the u.s. government. >> quick final question, and maybe i'm naive, i'm wondering is are there encampments right now where thousands of people, in relative close approximate sim to the u.s./mexico border are just staging and getting ready, or are we not at that point? >> oh, we've been at that point from our side, you'll see vehicles pull up, 200, 300 people waiting on the riverbank to cross. if you ever want to see it for yourself, i welcome you to come down here. i'll take you down here myself and show you what we see. that way, you can get a full understanding.
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for anybody to have a real understanding of what happens down here, you need to come down here and take a look for yourself. >> i may take you up on that offer, chris cabrera, so thank you for extending it. >> all right, thank you. let's see what you're saying on social media. smerconish, twitter, facebook, youtube, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. republicans are pushing for over other covid precaution fto be lifted. it's either over or it's not. stan coffman, zeroing in on it. think of it from the perspective of mark kelly in arizona. this on top of -- i mean, the president's got a full plate. the situation in ukraine. inflation, escalating gas prices, afghanistan withdrawal. this will be huge -- this will be bigger to the gop base than crt and don't say gay all combined. it's a major issue. by the way, it's not just politics, it's a real issue. i'm worried about our border.
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i'm worried about the perception of a porous border. it's big and it needed to be flagged, so pay attention. i want to remind you go to the website at smerconish.com this hour. tell me, should the biden administration lift title 42, it's a pandemic public health order which has stopped many migrants from crossing the u.s./mexico border. still to come, talk about your march madness, after the show in san francisco, i had an airport layover, i ended up at the duke/arkansas game cheering on the cheerleaders. that may have been the influence of a couple of beers. anyway, i've got a better companion, nba legend and sports analyst charles barkley is here to discuss who will survive monday's men's final. and that will smith and chris rock slap jolted the oscar audience. smith has resigned from the academy but why is there nothing else to talk about regarding what used to be the most esteemed of all award shows. and might it even get worse?
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>> the oscars whether they like it or not, it's not fair. but they kind of are a representation to a lot of america of the democratic party. because they look at the oscars and it represents sort of like pandering. it represents sort of like we're not connected to everyday people. you know, look at every year -- this year, it was a disability, gay and race. which there should be movies made about these topics. they're important topics but it looks like the oscars only do those topicscs. ( ♪ ) what's the #1 retinol brand used most by dermatologists? it's neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair® smooths the look of fine lines in 1-we, deep wrinkles in 4. so you can kis wrinkles goodbye! neutrogena®
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slap over which will smith has now resigned from the academy. that altercation is the only reason anybody is still covering this year's ceremony. there's no buzz around the awards or the movies themselves. have you noticed? in a recent cover story for "los angeles magazine" writer scott johnson had already raised the question, are the oscars over? even before covid, viewership for the awards show has been plummeting for a variety of factor including the rise of streaming services and the lack of overlap between what's popular and what's critically acclaimed. and now striving to be more inclusive and equitable the academy of motion pictures and arts and sciences will soon implement diversity requirements for movies to qualify for oscars. starting in 2024, part of the initiative known as aperture 2025, producers will be required to include race, gender, sexual orientation and disability
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status of their movie's cast and crew. including one about a story line, if not included, it won't qualify for best picture. think of all of the great movies that have been made over the years, godfather, kramer versus kramer, silence of the lambs. "titanic." could have qualify to be nominated. what does aperture 2025 mean? joining me is scott johnson. scott, i told you on radio this week, a couple years ago a novel i wrote was optioned by one of the big studios. and along the way, after 2014's oscar so white, it was suggested to me that maybe my protagonist shouldn't be a white guy, but should be a person of color. this "aperture 2025" takes that to a whole new level, right?
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>> it does. it's basically being seen by many in hollywood as sort of top-down filmmaking. and if you look, you mentioned a few great movies. but if you look even back at the last decade or two of the best picture winners, you know, "spotlight." "argo," "the king's speech," the hurt locker, the list goes on and on, but it's hard to see how imof those would pass muster under the new guidelines, while complicated do establish say sort of very byzantine and rather rigid set of criteria in order to qualify for the movies. >> in other words, if you can't check all the boxes for the story line, the cast and crew, as well as everybody involved in the production, your movie will
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not be considered for best picture? and this is not theoretical, this is going to happen in 2025? >> yeah, that's correct. 2024. the best picture nominees for 2024, will have to adhere to these guidelines, according to the academy right now. now, they may change their mind in the coming -- in the coming weeks or months, we'll see. but as of now, that's go the requirement. the standards themselves are quite complicated. and you have to meet sort of two out of the four sets of requirements, if you can't meet one criteria, you're given the option of trying to meet something else. but it all adds up to essentially, a set of top-down mandated requirements for
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filmmakers who are already grappling with the difficulties of making any movie which are considerable are now going to be asked to include in their calculations a set of requirements around the diversity of both the cast and crew. and also in some cases, potential even the story line in order to qualify for best picture. >> do you think that this will cause some in the business to say, i'm just not going to pursue oscar recognition? i'm not going to try and check those boxes. instead, i'm going to make the film i want to make. and the second question, can you see it spilling into other categories? and other entertainment realms like television. maybe television will be formulaic in the same sense? >> yeah, to your first question, i do think that filmmakers will just simply choose to opt-out of the whole process altogether. i spoke to a number of people in the industrial for the article, obviously. and i did hear that.
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but you know, this is just too burdensome, it's just not something that they're going to pursue. and i think that's what's another part of this whole story which is increasingly the movies, and this goes to your second question are really just a part of the larger ecosystem that has made movies themselves much more complicated and problematic in a way. and also has sort of, you know, created problems for the academy itself which rewards those movies. so more and more people are turning to television, that's been the case for a good many years now. this year's best picture winner was after all streamed on apple tv. that's the first that a streamed one has ever been in a mix this
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way and actually come out of there. and yet that movie was not seen very widely prior to the show. and certainly, while it may get a little bit of a boost post academy awards, that it's unlikely to enter the realm of movies like those we mentioned earlier, "titanic" and so forth which, you know, really more like cultural touchstones. they were things that millions of people in this country and elsewhere went to see. it became kind of, you know, talking points. they were unifying -- >> i think it's going to be a story of unintended consequences. i mean, how can you check the box relative to lgbtq participation, unless you first ask me to disclose my sexuality? you wrote a great piece. it's in my social media. i hope that people will read it. scott johnson, thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. checking now in on more
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social media, where does this come from, youtube, i believe. without a doubt, the oscars is the most boring award show of the year and has been since billy crystal stopped hosting. harvey, you and i are joined at the hip on this. where is billy crystal. actually, he's about to launch a brand-new broadway show in three weeks. i love the guy and i agree. i want to ask you a question, answer my question at smerconish.com. should the biden administration list title 42, a pandemic public health order, which has stopped many migrants from crossing the u.s./mexico border? still to come, you don't want to miss this, who will win the ncaa tournament, don't let the moves of my next guest deceive you. nba legend sir charles barkley live from nancew orleans to sha his big dance predictions. >> yeah. >> with all those play, y'all!
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here's somebody from the s.e.c. -- >> ooh. >> oh, that's a tennessee guard. >> we know -- you're supposed to -- >> santiago. >> very good. >> vescovi -- >> your emphasis -- >> that's how we pronounce it in the hood. >> not his hood. >> sir charles barkley joining me from new orleans. chuck to have you back if only on the phone. my handicapped has decreased from 27 to 26, you might want a
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piece of me this spring or summer. >> you must be in the zone then, you're playing that well. we can play -- we can play every day during the summer. i do nothing but play golf in the summer. we can play every day. >> in your final four, you had auburn. a bit of an emotional pull there for you. arizona, gonzaga and kentucky. okay, so you got wiped out. but to your credit in the elite eight, you had duke, unc, villanova and kansas. what are you looking for tonight? >> well, everybody is sleeping on the kansas/villanova game. it's really unfortunate that the kid from villanova pulled his achilles. obviously everybody is talking about duke and north carolina. it's going to be emic. it's going to be epic. i cannot wait to get there tonight. and kansas gets a break because of injury, but they're a terrific team. but, michael, this is the greatest day of the whole march
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madness. saturday at the final four is one of the coolest things i get to do in my life. it's unbelievable. where you have 20,000 fans of each school, when they start out tonight. and the building is on fire. i cannot wait until tonight. >> can i say that you personally have added so much for me this year. i'm a causal fan when it comes to this, even march madness. but i just look forward to your comm commentary of giving me story lines i otherwise would not have heard of. it's not only the game and the "x"s and "o"s of it, but the backstories and the personalities of these kids is what makes it so much fun. >> you know, it was amazing. when we did the big story last week about the kid from ukraine whose facetiming his mom and dad in the middle of a war going on, and i can't even imagine what
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that would be like to be a son and your mom had to leave and your dad is over there and there's bombs going off. and then we saw that story about the blind sportscaster. michael, i've been so lucky and blessed. i've said this before. the greatest thing i've ever done sports-wise in my life is go to the olympics. the olympics are the greatest thing i've ever been to. but the second thing is march madness. nothing can screw up march madness. it's the most incredible thing you're going to come to. you're going to come down here one year, especially on saturday. it's worth it for you. any type of sports fan, you got to come to march madness one time. >> charles, you'll love this. so i was going to tell you this on the lyinks but i'll tell it o you right now. last saturday, i did this show from san francisco. i was taking a red eye back to philly at 11:00 at night. my hotel told me you got to be out at 4:00. i figured out, arkansas and duke
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is a 6:00 p.m. tip-off. i got a great seat, sat and watched the game and had the time of my life. i got to experience it and everybody in life should have this experience once. >> yeah, i've said that -- one time everybody one time in life should go to the olympics. but the second thing they should do is go to march madness. it's incredible. it never lets us down. this is like my 10th year doing the tournament. it never lessens down. and i can't wait to get there tonight, but it's unbelievable. >> of course, for the whole tournament, every game that duke has played in conceivably was coach k.'s last game. do you think his last game is tonight or is it monday night? >> well, i think it's going to be monday night. i think -- first of all, i think they have more talented players.
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but i think the -- it's going to be the depth of duke. they're really deep. but they have special players. he's probably going to be the number one pick in the draft and he deserves to be the number one pick in the draft. but i think they win tonight. and kansas, i think they win because of the injury. i think that's going to be a big part. it's going to be a great final game monday night. and i think coach k., i think he leaves in a great cinderella story. >> charles, everybody is excited that you're here. there's a lot of social media reaction. kathryn, put something on the screen. this comes from the audience. these are things that people want you to answer. go ahead, kathryn. hit me with it. would chuck rather see the cinderellas like st. peters or the bluebloods like duke in the
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final four? >> cinderellas. one thing about sports, it doesn't matter how rich you are, where you're from, when you roll the ball out there in any sport, the best team always wins on that day. you know, in the nba, the best team is always going to win a seven-game series. a cinderella is not going to beat an nba team four times in a row. but the beauty of march madness is, you just have to be the best that day. and, listen, no matter what happens, coach k., his thing has probably been the story of mar madness. but the second biggest story has been the peacocks of st. peters. for those guys to win three games, it had never happened before, a 15 seed get to the elite eight. that was the second biggest story after coach k. in this tournament. >> enjoy yourself tonight. i'll see you when you get back to philly. >> amen. you know i got a lot of love and
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