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we have breaking news from capitol hill. the u.s. senate voted tonight to move judge ketanji brown jackson's from the committee to a full senate vote. every democrat and republican senator, lisa measure cow ski of alaska. stay with cnn for the latest from ukraine. the news continues. atlanta to hand it over to jake tapper and cnn tonight. jake? anderson, thanks so much. i'm jake tapper, and this is "cnn tonight" live from ukraine on night 40, night 40 of hell. i'm in lviv in the west, but all eyes right now are on eastern
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ukraine right now. that's where russian troops seem to be repositioning from the kyiv area and could be preparing for a new large-scale offensive. ukraine's defense ministry says the russians seem to be focused on capturing the second largest city of kharkiv. the pentagon says they've seen more military operations in the southeastern donbas region. this new phase comes after putin's forces failed to capture the capital of kyiv. and they've now mostly withdrawn from that specific region. we now have a clearer picture of the atrocities that were committed there while the russians were there, a sickening picture in the town of bucha, which is on the western outskirts of kyiv. by now you may have seen the images. if you have not yet seen them, i have to warn you, they're extremely disturbing. but they're also an important record of history. scenes of a massacre, slaughter, torture of civilians in bucha,
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bodies, bodies of civilians lying all along the streets. some victims found with their hands bound, shot execution-style like by gangsters. there are accounts of rapes and beatings and lootings. kids were killed. also jarring is the sight of mass graves. around 150 victims estimated to be buried at one site. but the mayor of back ucha says there could be up to 300 bodies in that site. the question is what will the world do to stop putin, if anything? president biden said, without hesitation today, that these are war crimes. and biden says he wants to see vladimir putin put on trial. >> i got criticized for calling putin a war criminal. the truth of the matter, you saw what happened in bucha.
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this war -- he is a war criminal. we have to gather all the details so this can be an actual -- have a war crime trial. this guy is brutal. i think it is a war crime. >> so, how to stop him? how to stop the war criminal? the white house said the u.s. will issue additional sanctions against russia this week in response to what happened in bucha. the u.s. will continue to back ukraine will military aid and humanitarian aid and economic support. but what is going to actually stop this? can putin be stopped? ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy today visited the town of bucha. he's calling the atrocities there genocide. zelenskyy also visited the nearby kyiv suburb in ukraine. these are images of destruction there. meanwhile a close call for one of our cnn crews positioned in southern ukraine, just south of
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the city of mykolaiv. they're vehicles were damaged by artillery rounds. watch for yourself. >> [ bleep ]. >> down here, john. down here. keep on rolling. [ sound of gunfire ] >> oh [ bleep ]. th >> those shells came pretty close to us. >> thankfully all are physically okay including ben wedeman, who you just saw there in that clip. let's turn now to another senior international correspondent, fred pleitgen, who with his own eyes bore witness to those horrific mass graves in bucha today. fred is witnessing up close what will be remembered as much as anything we've seen so far in putin's war. and fred's live in kyiv with his firsthand account. fred? >> reporter: hi there, jake. and the situation in bucha
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certainly is one that can only be described as tragic. and i think one of the things that really stands out is that the russian forces withdrew from that place four days -- a little more than four days -- ago. and yet the people who are searching there are still finding bodies in the streets in cars that were shot up, in basements, generally in houses -- also in houses, quite frankly, that were destroyed also in the fighting as well. so, the situation there is -- is tragic for the people there. they are sad. they are angry. at the same time, they also vow they want to carry on, obviously rebuild their town. but at the same time, they are still finding a lot of dead people, and they fear it will be a lot more. and i need to warn our viewers that what you are about to see is extremely graphic, extremely disturbing. >> reporter: ukrainian authorities in bucha lead us into a basement they call a russian execution chamber. it's a gruesome scene, five bodies, their hands tied behind their backs, shot.
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the bullet casings collected by ukrainian police. pot marks from bullets in the walls. the ukrainians say these men were killed when russian forces used this compound as a military base while occupying bucha. an adviser to ukraine's interior minister not even trying to conceal his anger. after the liberation of bucha, five corpses of civilians were found here, he says, with their hands tied behind their backs. they were shot in the heads and the chest. they were tortured before. even the body collectors find it hard to keep their composure. this man is usually a painter. now he collects the dead left behind after russian forces retreated from bucha. this is not what we learned in school, he says. do you see my hands? hundreds, hundreds of dead, hundreds, not dozens.
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the kremlin has denied russia was behind any atrocities in bucha. now, the russians say the negotiate their troops have killed civilians is propaganda. it seems this is clear. over there they seem to have dug in a tank. on the outer wall, the letter v, a symbol that russian forces painted on their vehicles before invading this part of ukraine. now, a lot of russian military hardware lies destroyed in the streets of bucha and other towns around kyiv, as the ukrainians made a stand and prevented vladimir putin's army from entering the capital city. images published shortly after russian forces left bucha show many corpses lying in the streets. some had their hands tied behind their babs. president biden called what happened here a war crime. ukraine's president vowed to bring those agabehind the viole against civilians to justice. these are war crimes, he says, and they will be recognized by
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the war as genocide. you are here, and you can see what happened. we know that thousands of people were killed and tortured, teared limbs, raped women, and killed children. and still, the dead keep piling up. many lay in this mass grave behind the main church in bucha. local authorities tell us around 150 people are buried here, but no one knows the exact number. and here, too, the scenes are tragic. vladimir has been searching for his younger brother, dmitry. now he's convinced dmitry lies here, even though he can't be 100% sure. the neighbor accompanying him has strong words for the russians. why do you hate ukraine so much, he says? since the 1930s, you've been abusing ukraine. you just wanted to destroy us. you wanted us gone. but we will be -- everything will be okay. i believe it.
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but more corpses are already on the way. at the end of the day, we meet the body collectors again, another nine bodies found in this tour alone. and it's unlikely they'll be the last. >> and one thing that we have to keep in mind, jake s that the crews that are doing all this, they are all volunteers. and they tell us they've already recovered those hundreds of bodies. as they were unloading that van, one of the things that really struck us the most is that first of all some of those body bags were already ripping apart because they had so many bodies in the back of that van. but there were also some really small body bags that simply had single limbs, in some cases really badly burned, that make it difficult to identify some of the victims of this. and there certainly, they say, will be many, many more to come. jake? >> well, that's the thing, right, fred? i mean, there's this growing fear that there are going to be other places like bucha, with mass graves and atrocities.
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bucha was not the only city under russia control for this long period of time. it's entirely possible this is just a little -- this is just the tip of the iceberg, right? >> yeah. and that's actually exactly the words of the foreign minister used today, saying that they do fear there are going to be places, and the president, volodymyr zelenskyy, said there could be other towns where the situation could even be worse, if that's something that could be imagined judging from the horrors we've seen in bucha over the past two days we've visited that place. one of the things i did, jake, over this weekend is i went to other small towns around kyiv that were held by the russians. there's another one to the north, and there you also see absolute massive destruction as well. and the authorities there told us, you know, we saw a lot of houses that were completely destroyed. we have some of the video here. and -- and there they said they believe there's a lot of people who are still buried dead under those houses they simply haven't
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been able to get to. as we were there, there were people who came to us who said they had found a dead body in their backyard that we then went and saw with his hands tied behind his back and a bullet wound to the head. and we still found the shell casings next to that body as well. so, certainly it could very well be the case that there could be more atrocities that could be discovered and certainly a lot more civilians that have come to harm and been killed, jake. >> fred pleitgen in kyiv, thank you so much for that important, important report. appreciate it. all the devastating we're seeing took place in just a matter of weeks. that only magnifies really what could be to come. >> it may not be just a matter of a few more weeks before all is said and done. that first quote, unquote phase of the conflict, as the russians put it, was measured in weeks. this next phase could be measured in months or longer. >> timelines matter even more so given that a u.s. military
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officer tells me the biden administration, in his view, is simply not doing enough or moving fast enough to get needed supplies, military supplies, into ukrainian hands. i'm joined now by former u.s. ambassador to nato and former nato supreme allied commander wesley clark. welcome to both of you. general, what can be done to get the ukrainians the supplies they need quicker? >> well, for one thing, they're in the hands of our european allies. so, in order to fight the administration with this battle, the ukrainians have got to have tanks. they've got to have mobile artillery. they've got to have maybe 100,000 artillery rounds. this is big stuff. not coming from the united states. got to come from poland, bulgaria, so forth. i'm told the white house has still not cleared our allies to release this. now, i don't know what the issue is. maybe the issue is the allies
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say, no, no, we can't give this up until you give us m-1 tanks and new self-propelled artillery. or maybe the allies -- maybe we're measuring this in some way saying we don't want to give them too much because we don't want to escalate this so that putin uses a nuclear weapon. but, jake, my view on this is that we've got a window of opportunity here to give the ukrainians exactly what they're asking for. we've got to do it quickly and let them finish the fight with the russians. this is not about stabilizing ukraine. this point it's about getting the russians out entirely. after what we've seen today, how can you reward an aggressor by giving him a piece of this country after what he's done? russia has to be forced out. and it's up to the force of arms of the ukrainians to do it. >> mr. ambassador, what can nato do? what should nato do about the kind of atrocities we're seeing in places like bucha?
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i get it that ukraine is not a nato country and there's a lot of reluctance and hesitation to have nato or u.s. boots on the ground. i totally understand. but what more can nato do? >> well, nato is an institution other than actually moving forces in can do very little. but nato countries, as general clarks has said, can do a lot more. and flowing in not just the kind of weapons that have been sent in great quantities but really the more major capabilities like tanks, like artillery, like multiple launch rocket systems that general clark was talking about, frankly anti-ship missiles. there's a lot of missiles being shot from the black sea, the ukrainians could defend themselves. that's really important. i think the problem, as general clark said, we, the united states, have very little of the equipment that the ukrainians actually know how to use or allies do.
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and if the allies insist that for every t-72 tank they send to ukraine they need an m1a1 from us, that's going to be problematic. we just don't have enough of them to be sent in. so, figuring out how to measure what we would need to send to the polls, the bulgarians and others so they can start arming and providing more capabilities to the ukrainians, it's just a tough task. remember that also we want these countries to be able to defend ourselves with our help should this in some ways escalate to nato territory. i do think that we need to start talking about thinking about security guarantees not only when the war is over. but frankly if the war is going to be concentrated in the east, what are we prepared to do in terms of securing much more of ukrainian territory now that the russians are moving very far away from some of the major cities? i think that's an issue that
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frankly nato can and probably will be discussing as it runs up to its summit in june. >> general, national security adviser jake sullivan said earlier today that the administration is going to announce more sanctions this week. what more can they do? is it enough given that the ruble is about to rebound to what it was worth before the invasion? >> well, you know, i think anything you can do with respect to sanctions is fine. as the president said in the beginning, it's not going to stop the russian attack. it's a form of punishment. we know from previously putting sanctions in on countries like haiti or iraq or iran that it causes a lot of problems. it doesn't produce regime change. and it doesn't necessarily affect the government's policies. so, here, i think, the united states needs a clear-eyed policy analysis and say, what is our aim with ukraine? now, what we said was we were going to do our best to help
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ukraine. ukraine's done a lot to help itself. so, what's our objective here? to stabilize it? one former ambassador says, oh, just stop the killing. let them have -- give them crimea. give them donbas. just stop the killing. we have to understand, putin's aims are not limited to ukraine. this is the opportunity to stop putin in his tracks. if he takes ukraine, the rest of nato is at risk. we've got a window of opportunity to give these fighting soldiers in ukraine what they need. and one thing the ambassador and i didn't mention so far or underscore, they need air support. they've got pilots. they'll fly. what is the difference between a drone provided by turkey and a mig provided by some other country both operated by ukrainians? what's the difference? it needs to be in there. it needs to be in there now. and if there's some kind of policy holdoff on the part of the white house because they're afraid, oh, let's get this calibrated exactly right, let's don't have the ukrainians go too
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far too fast, we might cause putin to be upset, putin doesn't need an exit strategy. putin started a war, and it needs to be finished by the ukrainians. >> general clark, ambassador dalder, thanks to both of you. really appreciate your thoughts this evening. secretary of state antony blinken says we cannot become numb to these atrocities. we're going to talk to a member of ukraine's parliament about how these images out of bucha affect her personally, what consequences she would like to see for russia. that's next. rself an average of seven hundred and thirty dollars. (custotomer) that's something. (burke) get a whole lot of something with fararmers. ♪we are farmers.bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-m-bum♪ this is a game changer who dares to be fearless
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that we've been covering, atrocities in bucha, ukraine. and she joins us now. thank you so much for joining us. in a recent tweet, you wrote about an image stuck in your head from the bucha massacre. it was the image of a woman's dead body. you said she had shoes similar to yours. tell us what was going through your mind when you saw that image. >> well, first of all, you have to realize we are all in shock when watching those videos and photos from bucha and the neighboring towns around kyiv, which have just been returned under ukraine's control. and i was looking through the images, and i saw picture which just stuck in my head. and i couldn't understand what amazed me the most. and i realized that the woman, that woman on the picture, had the sneakers, which was similar to the one that i had. and it stuck with me because i was thinking, like, she's exactly like me. she's exactly -- we have the same taste. we were living similar lives. she was living not far away from me. we were shopping in the same
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shops. we were going to the same stores and everything. and now she's dead. and it's just random that she is dead and i am not. it's just random death that came to her. and i was thinking about that image, and i was feeling the biggest feeling, remembering this image because of the shoes. and i talked to a friend of mine. and he said, you know, i was feeling silly as well. but i saw a man who was wearing the shoes exactly like the one i have, and that struck me most as well. just because this gives thu intense feeling that that person is exactly like myself, and he or she is dead right now. >> we've been showing the video of these corpses strewn about the streets in bucha. has the parliament, has ukrainian parliament discussed any efforts to identify the people on the streets and identify those buried in the mass graves? >> not as right now. we had the last parliamentary
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session at the end of last week and we don't know when the next session will take place. they typically take place once a week. but the next one has not been announced yet. different members of parliament are making different efforts in terms of helping people who suffered but also in collecting evidence about the victims. so, that is the process that is being done right now. but we are more involved in the work. we're getting the international proceedings of the war crimes that have been committed there. and that is something that many members of parliament are trying to help with, including myself, because what we want is justice for those victims. but we also want the world to make an official statement. this war crimes which were part of genocide of ukrainian people by russians, and we want the world to say that out loud because we want to truth to be told for those victims but also for the many people who are still suffering under russian control on the east and the
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south of ukraine. and i'm afraid to say that. a war we have seen in bucha, we shall see much worse of that in mariupol and kharkiv and many other cities in russian control right now. that is why we are asking please give us reference so we can stop them. and the only way to stop them is -- i'm sorry -- not with sanctions, not with general condemnation of puette skpn his soldiers, but with weapons provided to the ukrainian army. >> and putin seems to be even more popular than ever in russia. do you think that that is because of the propaganda that he feeds his people, who don't believe these facts and figures and what's going on, the
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atroci atrocities that putin and his army are committing? >> you know, there are some facts that i know. we do know that the russian soldiers in the area that they take under their control, they stopped, looked in the houses. and we have also seen them stealing stuff from the people's homes here and then going back to those and then sending the stuff back to their homes, to their wives, to their parents. those people know what their soldiers, what their family members, their sons, their husbands are doing here. and they're quite okay with that. they're okay with their soldiers w their sons, with their husbands, coming here, raping ukrainian women, stealing stuff from their homes, and sending those back to russia. those people know that, and they are okay with it. and i can't imagine how is that possible in normal person's mind. but i believe this hatred towards russians -- towards
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ukrainians is so strong among russians. and of course it has been supported by putin's propaganda, but also, you know, you have to remember there were centuries of conflict relations between russia and ukraine. this is not the first time that the russians are trying to kill ukrainians in great numbers. in 1932, '33 in great famine, they killed 10 million ukrainians. they keep on doing that. and that is the historical reality. so, i believe that many russians, they understand what is happening here. and they support putin precisely because he's killing us here. and that is even more scary because i wish there was an easy solution of hoping for putin to die soon and then everything will be fine, but i don't think so. i think this hatred towards ukrainians is much stronger than putin actually. >> thank you so much inna sovsun, appreciate your time
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that russia has for this invasion. u.s. intelligence does not believe bucha was a rogue act. instead, u.s. intelligence thinks russia is looking to, quote, impose a reign of terror across any territories if the russians capture ukraine. the russians are lying about these horrors. satellite images show the truth that the kremlin cannot refute. cnn has been able to match geolocated images showing bodies in the street. the sat images show bodys that have been there since at least march 18th. keep in mind russia controlled that area until march 31st. as far back as march 10th, weeks before the ukrainians retook control of the town, we saw trenches being dug, trenches now filled with corpses. a new report from human rights watch documents numerous cases of russian soldiers raping
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victims in ukraine and even some are executions of civilians, which reportedly happened before what we are now seeing in bucha. the question is, what can the west do about it? i'm joined now by rachel den berg. she is deputy director of human rights watch. thanks for being with us. human rights watch doing such important work here. but explain for our viewers the importance of documenting these atrocities. >> thank you, jake. it's really good to be with you. yes, we documented seven summary executions, one in bucha that took place march 4th and one in the village in the chernihiv region that took place on february 27th. and we also, like you say, we did document one case of rape in kharkiv region, and we've documented other just horrific -- incidents of
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horrific violence against humans. and it's really important right now to secure evidence. we have to secure bucha, for example, the bodies that are strewn all over the place there. and then we have to consider them like a crime scene. evidence needs to be preserved so that experts, forensic experts, ballistic experts can -- that have training in war crime investigation and know how to follow and have experience following protocols for evidence preservation so that they can do their work, preserve the evidence for eventual justice. >> rachel, explain to our viewers what a summary execution is. >> it's -- summary execution is where somebody, like, sets you up and shoots -- basically just shoots you in the back of the -- just shoots you. it's a shooting. it's a murder. and in the context of a war, an
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armed conflict, it's a war crime. so, what we documented in bucha, we had a woman who witnessed russian soldiers bringing five young men out to a square, putting them on their knees, forcing them to put their t-shirts over their head, and then one man, who seemed to be the commander, just popped one in the back of the head. and when the woman left the head, four others were still there kneeling. she, by the way, left bucha on march 9th. and when she left bucha, she saw that young man's body still lying on the scene. she saw lots of other bodies. she described seeing lots of bodies as she was leaving. not only the photographic evidence you were describing that testified to the presence of bodies on the scene in bucha well before the town changed hands back into ukrainian forces, but we have witness testimony telling us all about these bodies. we don't -- now, we don't know
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the circumstances of -- >> the biden administration. >> -- each and every -- mm-hm? >> keep going. >> i just -- i think it's important to underscore that, you know, each one of those bodies has its own story. some people might have been killed through summary execution, like the young men whose execution we documented. some people might have gotten caught in cross fire. remember there were lots of military hostilities in bucha. some people might have been killed by russian forces just shooting them as their cars were trying to escape. we documented another case in bucha of a man who was killed because he was in his home and russian soldiers came up to the house and just shot through the door. and he died of -- you know, he bled out and died. so, there are many different circumstances under which people were killed. and each one of those is a potential crime scene, and each one needs to be thoroughly and impartially investigated. >> thank you so much for your work and for your time this evening. coming up, we're live in
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odesa in southern ukraine, where russian missiles destroyed an oil refinery and fuel storage facilities across the street from homes, civilian homes. how much worse can things get in southern ukraine? plus i'm going to talk with an american born in ukraine who's now back here on humanitarian mission to try to save people in his native country. that's ahead. ♪ "how bizarre" by omc ♪ no annual fee on any discover card. ♪ ♪ ♪simply irresistible♪ ♪ ♪ ♪simply irresistible♪ apebee's irresist-a-bowls are back. w starting at $8.99. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
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ukrainian president zelenskyy is warning now that civilian casualties may be higher in other newly liberated areas, such as bucha outside the capital of kyiv. meanwhile, civilians in the port city of odesa are bracing for more russian attacks. cnn's ed lavandera joins us live from odesa. ed, we've seen strikes multiple southern cities, including odesa. what stands out from the way these russian attacks are carried out? >> well, if you look at the two
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rounds of air strikes that hit the odesa area on sunday, seemed very specific targeted to these oil refineries and fuel storage facilities. the russian officials had said that they had used high precision missiles to attack those very spots. u.s. military officials say they have no reason not to believe that is what exactly happened in this case. and then you drive about two hours east of where we are, jake, in mykolaiv, and you see the shelling that has happened there. and in the words of one local official there, they believe that those attacks there are designed to harass and panic the public. this is much more sporadic, no rhyme or reason, actually more deadly, as there is one strike in particular that killed tenden ten civilians and injured many more earlier today. the indiscriminate nature of the
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way the attacks are being carried out in the southern region is perhaps most perplexing and terrifying for residents here. >> parts of the south other than odesa have been pummelled more than odesa has, like mariupol, for example. what do ukrainian officials believe is the russian strategy here? >> reporter: well, the concern and the fear is that the russians still have their eyes set on odesa. that was what the concern has been from the get-go. obviously perhaps this dynamic changes given how russian forces were beat back and pushed away and had to retreat ultimately in the north around kyiv. but if russian forces were able to regroup and resupply and then focus with all of their resources even to the east of this country, you know, the concern is that they will have enough fire power and manpower to be able to come as far down south as odesa. and that's, you know, the
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question they have is exactly what are their intentions here at this point? >> ed lavandera in odesa, thank you so much. appreciate it. here in the city of lviv, a cultural center sometimes compared with paris now turned humanitarian hub. we're seeing so many people working tirelessly to help those in need in other parts of the country. i want to share with you the story of just one man, one volunteer, a young ukrainian-born american who felt compelled to return to his n native homeland. >> i just wanted to come and help -- >> reporter: compelled to come. >> this is where i'm from, you know? ukraine is in my blood. >> reporter: one american traveling thousands and thousands of miles to give back to the country he once called home. >> i'm adopted from here. 2001 my american family adopted me and my three other siblings from a small town. i just want to provide back to where i came from, just help the country i came from, was born
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from. >> reporter: originally from a small town near did-- he is amo the 300 volunteers working roark at one of the biggest humanitarian centers around ukraine, where he helps with packing and unpacking humanitarian aid. >> even though we're not on the front lines, this work that we're doing here plays a key role. >> reporter: the lviv humanitarian center helps up to 700 displaced people directly every day. and sends donations directly to the most hard-hit areas of the country. today's shipment is going to hostomel and bucha, where the city is reeling over this mass grave site. >> i feel like as a society we realize it still is going on. >> reporter: but it's not something eric can forget about, seeing a chance to serve a country where his roots run
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deep. >> i want ukraine to be more of me and i like to serve. so, giving back to those less fortunate -- i mean, i was adopted and i had everything. and now coming here, i see that there's people a lot less fortunate than me. >> and our thanks and best wishes to eric, his parents in new mexico must be very, very proud. coming up, polish schools open their doors to a flood of ukrainian refugee children. cnn goes inside their classrooms, as the teacher learns how to educate students in a language she simply doesn't speak. that's next. what's going on? where's reginana? hi, i'm ladonna. i invest i in invesco qqq, a fund that gives me access to the nasdaq-100 innovations,, like real time cgi. okay... yeah... oh. don't worry i got it!
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invasion of this country. many found refuge in poland and polish school. we visited a school where communities are taking in refugees with open arms in spite of the many challenges. >> reporter: to learn the full scope of war take a seat in this classroom. she is a polish teacher using google translate to communicate in ukrainian with her new foreign students. her class has grown by 40% this month with new children who have just fled the only home they've ever known. >> you are translating on the internet as you teach. >> yes, because i know only polish. >> reporter: how important is it for you as a teacher to help these kids? >> very important.
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>> reporter: primary school 157 has welcomed every new refugee. classes are more cramped, but he's public school students don't complain because they feel they already know the strangers sitting next to them. >> a lot of kids have come to our school and some have told stories about what happened. they have left people that they love behind. >> reporter: he is 13 years old, a polish student, seeing the influx of war survivors come through the school doors. >> the more we take in, the better we are doing. >> reporter: the better? >> yes. >> reporter: you don't mind that the rooms are crowded? >> no. it's for a good cause. >> reporter: these are all polish kids. eva is the vice director. >> it's hard. >> reporter: she feels for every child in the building. and only wishes she could do more. >> especially when i see people helping and i don't know we can
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help only small part. >> reporter: warsaw's mayor tells us the strain on his city schools is enormous. the 100,000 additional refugee children in poland's capital need an education. it's an increase of 30% just this last month. he is from kyiv. your mom is here? >> yes. >> reporter: your father? >> no. he stay in ukraine. >> reporter: his father is a minister, helping fight in the war. it took a week for him to escape ukraine with his mother. school offers the structure of a life he's lost. your favorite subject is? >> math. >> reporter: you like math? >> yes. >> reporter: is it easier being around other ukraine kids? >> yes, he says. we can talk. they understand.
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of the 4 million refugees fleeing ukraine, half are children. paying the price of adult sins. how hard for kids your age to live through this? >> i think it's practically impossible to go through this. it's just mind boggling how this could happen to someone that young. >> reporter: the school told us they are not experts in war trauma, that there isn't a system set up to deal with all of this at the public school level here in poland. but despite that and even if there is another wave of refugees who may come in, they will not turn one single child away. jake. >> thank you so much. we'll be right back from lviv.
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now. how are you? >> how are you? you just arrived in ukraine. what are your impressions there on the ground? >> well, if the russians thought that their atrocities were going to get the ukrainian people to sit down and shut up and surrender, this is what we saw when we entered lviv. on the right you see a sign welcoming us to the city. that's lviv in ukrainian. on the left this massive sign that reads "russian occupier go f yourself." that's the big banner right there. i got to say, it does feel, don, like we are entering this new -- a new phase kind of that, the slaughter of civilians, what we saw in bucha, it's not an errant missile strike, not an accident. this is execution-style killing of innocent civilians. >> yeah. and let's hope those who are responsible are held accountable as much as, as many as can i, i should say. jake, thank you. see you torr
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