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trump. she met voluntarily and virtually with house makers investigating the attack on the capitol. she answered questions and her answers were not especially broad, his words, nor openly chatty. also his words. in addition the chairman is not aware she invoked her fifth amendment rights. they also want her take on his, quote, mental state in the days following january 6th. you may recall she was with her dad. stay with cnn from the latest from ukraine. the news continues. let's go to jake tapper and "cnn tonight." jake? anderson, thank you. this is "cnn tonight." i'm jake tapper and live from ukraine. i'm going to warn you right now much of what you're going to see this hour is graphic and can be disturbing, and that's exactly what president volodymyr zelenskyy was driving home today
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in his direct challenge to the world now you can see what he's done in places like bucha, ukraine, what will he do, he said. zelenskyy did not hold back in his first address to the security council since this invasion. he detailed russia's atrocities calling them the worst war crimes since world war ii. then zelenskyy showed them to help make the case for further actions. zelenskyy called for the u.n. to a charter to make peace around the world or not exist at all. >> translator: where is the security that the security council needs to guarantee? what is the purpose of our organization? either remove russia as an aggressor and a source of war so it cannot block decisions about its own aggression, its own war. or if there is no alternative
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and no option, then next option would be dissolve yourself altogether. >> russia as you might remember holds veto power as one of the five permanent members of the u.n. security council. but zelenskyy warns it's turning its veto into essentially a license to kill. according to the united nations at least 1,480 civilians have bip killed so far by russians in ukraine and close to 2,200 injured. those are just the bodies that have been discovered so far. and they're not just being found in places like bucha. zelenskyy notes the death toll is likely even higher in other liberated towns like -- which is also on the outskirts of kyiv. new footage shows that town has been destroyed. meanwhile here in lviv, this western city has been something of a safe haven for many ukrainians fleeing from the east and the south and the north and
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the center of the country. and met a number of displace citizens today who came here from kyiv and elsewhere with their children seeking safety. that includes two women named natalia and maria. maria's husband works for the police around kyiv. he stayed behind. he tells her each day on the phone about the horrors he's witnessing back home. here's a piece of what they wanted the world to know. >> translator: the war in ukraine is real and true people are being killed. it is very hard. it is true. we want the world to know that the russian soldiers are making safari out of ukrainian children. they are killing and raping women, and they are killing young men so they won't be able to fight against them. >> translator: we are very grateful to those who deliver the truth. please do not stop. do not get used to this war. speak the truth. >> and that is why we are here
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to tell you that truth. joining us now from the region they escaped as our chief international anchor christian amanpour, she is in kyiv. she was in kharkiv yesterday to the east of kyiv where there reportedly have been dozens of long-range missile strikes. new reporting on newly freed ukrainian prisoners of war. christian, thanks for being with us. your team got exclusive access to dozens of ukrainian soldiers each with their own harrowing accounts. what can you tell us? >> well, jake, they came from various parts of ukraine where they've been fighting and therefore captured. i was in kharkiv just yesterday and for the previous 24 hours. there was quite a lot of artillery, but it seems at least then the russians were not trying to take the city again, but we just don't know what will happen as they move and come further east. and soldiers are concerned what happens if they get captured? we were given very brief access
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to a group of about 86 p.o.w.s who were released, and that happened because of the negotiations sporadically under way between russia and ukraine. and they told us what happened to them once they were captured and they were able to talk freely upon their release here in kyiv. back home and free. these former ukrainian prisoners of war once held by russian forces are greeted by friends and colleagues in kyiv. freedom for now is the drag of a cigarette, walking on home turf even if that means using crutches. bags of food are handed out to the more than 80 former ukrainian p.o.w.s released in a prisoner exchange with russia. it's a welcome meal and a moment to decompress and reflect on what many here say was the physical and mental abuse they
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endured in russian custody. one p.o.w. says he was captured nearly a month ago while evacuating civilians. he was beaten by russian soldiers. >> translator: they hit me in the face with machine gun butts and kicked me. my front teeth were also chipped. >> reporter: anya and dasha were also in the same unit. it was shell by russian troops who they say tried to break them, make them shout glory to russia and they shaved their heads telling them it was for hygiene purposes. >> maybe they were trying to break our spirit in some way. >> translator: it was a shock, but then we're strong girls, you know? >> reporter: he says he was taken by russian soldiers in mariupol and suffered daily beatings during his captivity. >> translator: they would beat us five to six times day for nothing. they would just take us into the hallway and beat us up. >> reporter: it's an ordeal and
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it will take time to heal both mentally and physically, though many say they want to go back to their units and continue fighting. but before that he shows us a slip of paper with what he says are the phone number of loved ones of prisoners still held captive by the russians. he says he will tell the families they're still alive and not to give up hope. now, jake, right after that conversation they went back to their units for all sorts of care including mental health care and perhaps further debrief. and it has emerged according to the local ukrainian prosecutor that of the women there were 15 who were captured. some of them went onto say that they had, you know, been forced to strip naked in front of men, forced to squat, some of them forced to recount very loudly russian propaganda. generally humiliating stuff under interrogation. that's the latest we've learned
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from some in that group, the females there. jake? >> and christiane, there are these new images out of mariupol that show just the massive level of destruction there. we know, of course, tens of thousands of ukrainians remain trapped in the city. these are civilians. what more can you tell us? >> i mean looking at those images, it's stalingrad, isn't it? it's just absolutely awful. today i spoke to a red cross spokesman here. they've been trying for days to get humanitarian aid in and civilians out. it has not happened yet. they've been prevented from doing it. they keep trying and they will keep trying to do it, and they have to take something into the people there who now the local authorities who remain say mariupol is really now teetering on the brink of humanitarian catastrophe. and as we know it remains very firmly in the russian sight in order for them to build that strategic bridge between the
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east and the southern territories they occupy. jake? >> thank you so much. christiane amanpour in kyiv, ukraine. as ukraine demands the world holds russia accountable let's get some perspective from the united states. a former u.s. ambassador to the unite nations and former director of national intelligence under president george w. bush. thanks for joining us, mr. ambassador. so we heard ukrainian president zelenskyy today challenging the unite nations body to expel russia from the u.n. security council. how likely is that to happen do you think and what would be the significance? >> i mean it's almost impossible because to expel a country from the u.n. you have to have a proposal from the security council to the general assembly which would then vote on it, and obviously security council is not going to be able to muster the support of russia itself. it will veto any such ideas. so it's not realistic as a
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proposal, but i think the point is what more can be done to try to discourage and deter russia from doing what it's doing? and i think the sanctions approach, the actions by the united states and the other willing countries, a coalition of the willing, if you will, particularly the european union, those are the kind of things going to have an effect on their behavior. i think the eu today by going after russia's coal exports took a good first step, but, you know, i think we're thinking of this country as committing war crimes and committing all kinds of heinous acts. well, if that's the case, which it is, then why not go after their oil exports? europe shouldn't be spending several hundred million dollars a day buying russian energy
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exports and then turn around and finance their war. reform of the u.n. and changing the united nations and the security council and all that might be something to debate later on when the dust settles but you can't get it done now. and one last point about that, franklin roosevelt when he agreed to have us sign-up to the united nations he insisted, he was absolutely adamant and so was the congress that we have provision for the veto in the u.n. security council. so we, too, were insistent on that to protect what we thought were our essential interests. and i think roosevelt felt he would have not gotten the treaty ratified by the senate if he had not obtained proivision for a veto. so it's important to other countries as well as the russians. >> take a listen citing credible
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reports that thousands of ukrainian citizens including children have been taken to see called filtration camps. >> reports indicate that russian federal security agents are confiscating passports and i.d.s, taking away cellphones and separating families from one another. i do not need to spell out what these so-called filtration camps are reminiscent of. it's chilling, and we cannot look away. >> the ambassador also calling for russia to be removed from the unite nation's human rights council. can any tangible action against russia come from that, though? or will that be purely symbolic? >> it would further erode their prestige and their standing at the united nations. i think another thing we can do is try to work on some of the
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countries that have refused or declined to condemn russia for what it's done. i'm not talking about china. we know that china's problematic -- problematic issue. but, for example, democratic india, a country that we have been cultivating in recent years and talked about the indo pact relationships and the east asia pacific region supposedly, you know, a new and strategic partner, and they won't condemn the russians. well, that's a mistake. and i think we ought to work with other countries at that time to try to deepen russia's sense of isolation. but i come back to the point i think cutting off their energy exports is probably the most effective single thing that can be done in the short-term. >> the efforts to hold putin and to military commanders
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responsible for these atrocities, holding them accountable is to get the russian people to give him up. but we keep hearing just recently overnight putin spinning and lying about what's going on including spinning about his country's economic hardships. he's saying that's the result of a global food shortage not because of western sanctions. is there any way that the western world can pierce putin's propaganda bubble especially given how popular he is at home which seems to only be increasing? >> well, i think in part by inflicting military pain and economic pain on them. the body bags, the number of people who have been killed. they can -- you know, remember lincoln saying you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool them all of the time. and i think as these deaths and casualties go up, the losses go up, the economic pain increases,
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i think the word is going to get around and people are going to have a view of what exactly can change the internal situation in russia. i'm not certain. could it be the military who will just find it harder and harder to carry out some of his orders, or will it be the economic and the casualties, that pain that will cause putin to change his mind. i think at some point i'm not sure he can bear this cost indefinitely, and at some point we might see a change take place. but i see no alternative to persisting at this particular point in time. >> ambassador, thank you so much for your time tonight. we really appreciate it. you heard the plea from one of those displaced ukrainians with whom i spoke earlier in the show asking those who delivered the truth about this war please don't stop. we're going to bring in two of our greatest truth tellers ahead who have witnessed the horrors
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facts that they see with their own eyes and to the world, the kremlin continues to feed its citizens and everyone else lies. >> translator: nobody is going to attack the people of ukraine. i will stress, read what putin said, no strikes on civilian infrastructure. >> our fred pleitgen is witnessing the truth while matthew chance covers the lies being fed to the russian people by the kremlin. thanks for joining us. fred, what did you see there? what are the facts in this town that had been held by russian troops for nearly a month. >> well, the facts are attacks on civilian infrastructure on a large scale and also other places as well. in fact, jake, one of the things we did today is we drove from kyiv all the way to which is about i'd say about 70 kilometers, about 50 miles. and every single town we went
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through we saw the same exact picture, destroyed houses, destroyed infrastructure. you see some of the pictures here we filmed in borodianka earlier today. and you see a lot of destroyed russian tanks. there's essentially two narratives that i think are becoming crystal clear as this war drags on, and one of them is the fact the russians got beaten badly by the ukrainian military. you see some destroyed russian military vehicles right there, and in many cases got beaten very, very badly. and then the fact many civilians were harmed in all this. and that's something i think you're going to see a lot more of in the coming days. so russia certainly at least here around the kyiv area has lost at least the battles here. and in the meantime they've also caused a lot of harm to civilians as well, jake. >> and matt, you've walked through the remains of family
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homes after they were hit by russian air strikes. how does the kremlin explain attacks by civion civilianess t are so clearly obviously happening? >> what the kremlin does is a strategy we've seen it adopt whenever it's accused of maligned activity for the past several years. whether it's meddling in american elections, poisoning of opponents or killing of dissidents, it adapts this strategy of categorical denial. it simply through every channel and every platform saying this is not true or you're wrong. it's exactly that strategy when it comes to the killings of civilians in bucha. it's saying this is a staged attack. it's saying this must have happened after russian troops withdrew from the town north of the ukrainian capital. and even the photographic evidence, the satellite
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photographs and the video, drone reports that indicate that cannot be the case, that's not enough to sort of unseat the -- the officials in russia and its propaganda machine. they're just continuing to insist this is something they did not do, and it is simply a faked episode. >> fred, that's exactly what happened in bucha, which you witnessed first-hand. >> yeah, that's exactly what happened and what is continuing to happen with some of the things that, you know, russian officials saying. we heard sergei lavrov. we heard the russian ambassador to u.n. but quite frankly on the ground there we witnessed what really happened. we saw the aftermath of what really happened. we were brought down into a basement that the ukrainians say were used as an execution chamber. we saw five dead bodies. and it's kplutly clear the compound this basement was in
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had been used as a russian military base while they occupied that area. there were russian shooting positions here, russian military meals there, russian maps there. everything was there, and it was clear those bodies had been laying there for a while namely before the ukrainians had taken that territory back. and that's something, again, we've seen in various places as we've been moving around the area. in fact, just today we were with a group of people who have to unfortunately collect these bodies. and we saw a person who was gunned down on a bicycle, a body burnt beyond recognition, somebody still stuck in their car after having been shot while trying to escape from russian forces while they were still in control of that area, and they had to pry him out of that vehicle. it's something happening on a large scale here. where when you speak to the ukrainian authorities and to people in these towns they say the soldiers from the russian federation who were there acted in utter disrespect of the ukrainian state.
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we saw them deface some of the buildings here and paint the "v" the russians did and paint that over ukrainian flags to show them they were in charge and also deeper disrespect for ukrainian civilians as we saw for instance in bucha but enso many areas as well, jake. >> fred plight dpn, matthew chance, thanks to both of you. appreciate your time this evening. for all of the kremlin's bogus claims about directing its fury at just military targets, take a look. a russian strike on a children's hospital. those are ambulances getting shelled. no one on earth would mistake them for tanks. i'll bring in a member of the ukrainian parliament whose family is among the millions living in fear. that's next. asya agulnik md: st. jude was founded with an understanding
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disturbing new evidence of attacks on hospitals and on medical workers in ukraine. this video released by military officials in ukraine appears to show a bombing outside a children's hospital in mykolaiv on monday. two parked ambulances hit in the blast. ukr ukrainian officials say russian forces were behind the blast. four were wounded athey tried to
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enter an oncology hospital in mykolaiv. several explosion went off near their team who witnessed at least one body and several injured as they ran for cover. i'm joined by a member of the ukrainian parliament. he's in kyiv. thank you for joining us. you evacuated your three daughters, your ilwife and mom from kyiv when the conflict started. how are you doing? how is your family holding up? >> yeah, good evening. thank you very much for having me here. yes, i was luck ato take my family out of kyiv i think on the fourth day of bombarding. it was challenging for us like anybody else. it was difficult to leave. it took us i think 27 hours. in a normal life it takes 7 at maximum. but it was 27 hours journey, and then i was able to move daughters out of ukraine to a safe place.
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now they like millions of other ukrainians somewhere in europe, some good people in france give them hospitality. so they have accommodation in france, by the way, free of charge. and that's a good example of many families in europe helping ukrainians showing that we are one big european family. >> you've been bringing attention to the ukrainian children who could not make it out. what are you hearing from families who have not been able to evacuate? >> we also understand the big picture of humanitarian trauma in ukraine. because, yes, almost 4 million ukrainians left the country, and everyone should understand it's mostly women with kids and babies and older people. because all men in ukraine but yes millions of others women and
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kids are still inside the country. i want to remind everyone ukraine is 40 million huge country inside the center of europe. and millions are under risk. yes, we defeated russians. next to kyiv we defeat russians in the north and northeast, but we still have no clue what is happening in the hundreds and dozens of the villages and cities in the south and in the east. and after everything what we saw in bucha and other small cities around kyiv, all this massacre and all this nightmare we're absolutely sure the same pictures will be in all other temporary occupied towns and villages of ukraine. and yes, kids in particular and women are the huge risk because on the one side we have a lot of reports on killed kids and babies from the other side.
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we know it's one of the weapons of the russian army. we're dealing with the rates now because for the last week we've gotten so many reports on cruelty against women and girls. >> what's your message for the russian people so many of whom don't believe these images are real? they're being told by sergei lavrov and vladimir putin and kremlin and propaganda it isn't real. what's your message tonight? >> first of all i would like to civilized world to understand what is going on. if you look back to the history of modern russia, to the history of soviet union all their internal and external policies were always built on lies. they were lying everywhere, every time to their partners, to
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their friends, to their competitors, to their own people. russian leaders they were lying to themselves. so lies is their dna. that is the problem. and again, the west underestimate the cruelty of not obl russian leadership but the russian culture. from the other side everyone in the west should understand one simple thing. it took adolph hitler less than seven years to convert germans into cruel nazi before he start the second world war in 1937. he came to power in 1933. vladimir putin was building fascism regime in russia for 22 years. it was 22 years of nonstop russian propaganda, which was blaming the west in all the things which was clearly anti-nato, anti-united states. and unfortunately, the paramount
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majority of russian citizens, they believe that putin is right. and we see a lot of reports, hundreds of reports from the ground from russia when regular citizens, they're so paranoid with all these propaganda that they continue to support everything what is happening in ukraine. many of them are saying that, yes, ukraine shall be demolished, yes we shall stop this by stopping ukraine as a country and things like that. so, unfortunately, i do not agree with many politicians in the west and the united states in particular who are saying there is a bad putin and the russian people. unfortunately, 22 years of russian propaganda, fascist propaganda is doing its terrible job. so that's why i call the west and call the united states to stop talking to russian leadership and to do our job, to bring sanctions to russia. this is the only thing that they will understand.
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>> member of parliament thank you so much for your time this evening. we really appreciate it. is the world about to become a far more dangerous place than it already is tonight? the new warning from the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff about russia and china. plus, how u.s. troops could step up their presence in eastern europe. that's next. cabin. hello cashback! hello, kevin hart! earn big time with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee. how do you cashback? chase. make more of whahat's yours. [inspirational soul music] [inspirational soul music]
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and we're back live from lviv, ukraine. the scope of pain we are witnessing here is often excruciatingly personal, but the top american general today presented congress with a wider, more troubling context. he calls the russian invasion of ukraine, the quote, greatest threat to peace and security in europe and perhaps the world in more than four decades. the joint chief chairman with this prediction for where this leads the world. >> we're now facing two global powers, china and russia. each with significant military
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capabilities, both who intend to fundamentally change the rules-based current global order. we are entering a world that is becoming more unstable. and the potential for significant international conflict between great powers is increasing not decreasing. >> i'm joined now by retired major general james spider marx. thanks for being with me. i guess the first question is do you agree with general milley? >> i do, jake. what he's saying is crystal clear. we've watched the chinese for the last couple of decades. their military growth has been phenomenon. they were an expeditional navy. their development of nukes they declare they're going to increase, increase in termers of their fighter aircraft, et cetera. they've absolutely described what they want to do and going
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about business. the russians, on the other hand, have this military development they've been a part of for a couple of decades. it's now been exposed and inept primarily because of the leadership is inept. that doesn't degrade what general milly said in terms of a threat that exists right now. completely in agreement general milly is spot on. we're at a point where the united states have got to stand up and create partnerships that have some robust capabilities with limited time for reaction is what we're seeing in europe right now. in particular look at the baltics. that's a primary concern as we all understand. if we're not present, if we don't have great robust intelligence, if we can't see the leading indicators of what russian kinetic activity might look like in that region, it's too late to respond. we have to a physical presence and be very mobile, but we have to be there in certain capacities.
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>> so just to bring our audience up to speed, general milly today called for permanent troop presence in -- of u.s. troops in these eastern european countries that are nato allies that sometimes have small troop presences, u.s. troops or rotations here and there. i'm talking about latvia, lithuania, poland. you agree with milly there should be bases there, u.s. bases to deter russia from invading them. >> i do. in particular what's required, the army has a forward headquarters in poland. and what that means that's a command and control plug. it's a portal where you have great capacity to see and decide, and then you can call forward those rapidly deployable forces as necessary. what we're seeing now is that we have little space to deal with,
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to reign if you will not unlike what the israelis have been dealing with for 4,000 years. they have robust intelligence capability and there are rules that need to be established in these various nations that get them more on a military footing, some type of conscription, some type of mandatory military presence, but otologist nato membership need to be forward presenced and then you can have those discussions on what those capabilities look like. clearly you need to have defense capability, immediatedousive capabilities and long-range strike capabilities, and all of that is dependent upon very solid intelligence and intelligence that we can share. >> thank you so much, general marks. good to see you as always. amid all this horror comes so many displays of humanity, so
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we continue now with our live coverage from ukraine where 11 million ukrainians and counting have been forced to leave their homes since vladimir putin's assault on civilians began. the united nations says more than 4 million ukrainians have fled this country and well over 7 million remain inside the borders but have been forced from their homes internally displaced persons is what they're called. many are finding refuge in this western city of lviv where i am right now. today my team and i visited a minor league soccer club where the owner has opened his doors to his new home team, ukrainian
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families, families he desperately hopes to protect. >> reporter: under the watchful eye of this local soccer team mascot, this 3-year-old exhausted, finally sleeps. she has fled donetsk with her mother and aunt and cousins. it is no longer safe for her there. but here in lviv residents like ukrainians across the country are opening their homes and businesses to fellow citizens. >> vulnerable families fleeing their homes seeking refuge wherever they can find it, including for this 3-year-old girl and this 4-year-old girl at this soccer club in lviv. this is a minor leagues soccer club. team executives say their offices emblazened with lion logos has offered a resting place for hundreds of refugee families such as this one
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stopping in on their way to the border and to poland. >> it must be very difficult to be a mother and protect your children at a time like this when there are horrible things happening. >> translator: yes, it is both physically and psychologically difficult. >> reporter: she tells us she was a pharmacist's assistant before the war. her sister-in-law an accountant. their husbands remain back east as their journeys likely continue soon out of the country. now they say they are open to any job and any safe way of life for their family. >> translator: i was also a bookkeeper, worked at a company. i'm also ready to take any job. we left because of our children. we left our town because we were afraid of their psychological state. we have a war there and we were very scared. >> reporter: their oldest children 11, and 9, seem sad and
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confused. how was the journey? >> translator: it was very long, but i am very happy now that we are in a safe place. >> reporter: what do you miss the most? >> translator: i miss my grandmother and would like to be back in my town because here everything looks very unfamiliar to me, unknown. >> reporter: it must be tough being a kid and having to go through all this. >> translator: a bit. >> reporter: they are, after all, only 11 and 9, but they find themselves having to comfort their much younger siblings. >> reporter: igor, what do you tell your little sister in the other room when she gets worried? >> translator: i tell her everything is going to be fine and that it will end soon. >> reporter: relatively, these children are lucky. thousands of ukrainians including the nation's youngest, have been killed in putin's brutal war. innocent civilians murdered in their hometowns in their homes. many more in danger of being
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next. and that is what motivates this soccer club owner. >> translator: i want to change my profession. i bought a rifle. i'd like to become a sniper. i believe after what we have seen, what happened in bucha, the number has increased tenfold of people like me who want to join. >> reporter: he wants to join the ukrainian military and go to the front lines. >> translator: i definitely want to go where i can avenge our children. >> reporter: upstairs he began to show me the sniper rifle and ammunition he purchased. and as if we needed any more evidence of the threat the people of ukraine find themselves under, constantly, the air raid siren went off while we were speaking. oleg did not stop and instead continued loading the bullets, ready to go to war for the children under the ukrainian flag and under the watchful eye of the lions.
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thanks for watching. i'll be back again tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. eastern live from ukraine. and i will see you tomorrow afternoon on "the lead" beginning at 4:00 p.m. eastern. "don lemon tonight" starts right now. hey, don. >> hey, jake. before i let you go, man, that soccer owner you interviewed in that report, quite a character. tell me more. what else did he have to say? >> well, it's interesting. i asked him about putin and how angry he is at putin. and obviously he's very angry at
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putin. but he also had some words for former german chancellor angela merkel. he said the response from merkel after russia invaded and seized crimea in 2014 and then had the russian separatists in the eastern region in the donbas region, he said her response was to push forward for that natural gas pipeline from russia, which he holds her responsible in no small way. he said, rather pointedly, i hope that gas is keeping her warm today. >> wow. well, it's interesting. i mean, i think the people of ukraine have a particular ire for vladimir putin. but as you heard the president saying to nato and to the u.n., you got to do something. and they have not been at a loss for words for criticism all around. jake, great broadcasting. we'll see you again tomorrow night. get some rest. we know it's early in the
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