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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. day 43 of russia's war on ukraine. hello, i'm john vause live in lviv, ukraine. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. and on this day, cities and towns in the donbas region and across eastern ukraine are bracing for what they expect will be a renewed russian onslaught. putin's goal now appears to be taking hold a large part of ukraine mostly controlled by russian backed separatists. a local official in donetsk claims a humanitarian aid distribution center came under attack by russian firepower, killing two people and wounding five others. busloads of civilians making their heart-wrenching decision to evacuate from around kharkiv, where russian forces have attacked a fuel depot as well as a railway station which they claim was supplying ukraine's
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military with weapons. a ukrainian official says russian forces are deliberately aiming at civilian targets. a counteroffensive by ukrainian fighters have pushed russian troops from areas in the north. >> translator: it seems the russian leadership really got scared of the world's rath, that w -- wrath. from where we will inevitably kick out the occupiers. we have the information that the russian military has changed its tactics and is trying to kill people from the streets and basements in occupied territory. >> new drone video released by the ukrainian government appears to show the location of trenches in the highly radioactive forest around the chernobyl nuclear power plant, apparently the work of russian soldiers who took control of the site of the world's worst nuclear accident
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in late february but have since left with the defunct power plant now back under ukrainian control. the pentagon says the fighting in ukraine will likely intensify in coming weeks. ukraine's military still has a chance of mounting a successful counteroffensive. >> of course they can win this, and if you look at what they've been able to do thus far, mr. putin has achieved exactly zero of his strategic objectives inside ukraine. >> the latest u.s. assessment believes russian forces have completely withdrawn from areas in the north around the capital, kyiv, and chernihiv. and in their wake, those russian troops are leaving behind miles and miles of destruction as well as evidence of possible war crimes. a warning, our report from cnn's fred pleitgen contains from graphic details, graphic video. >> just be careful. move. >> reporter: it's like a scene from the gates of hell. the dead lay strewn across this highway west of kyiv, some still
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next to the wreckage of their vehicles as the dogs roam around looking to scavenge. this is what russian forces left behind when they retreated from here. this man tells me these were civilians gunned down from this position where the russians had placed a tank. >> you can see it's actually built in a shooting zone. you see? these cars, they're sort of in line. there's no cars here because they would not let them come. they're shot as soon as they approach. >> reporter: the russian government denies targeting civilians. they call such allegations fake and propaganda. but this man is part of a drone unit and they filmed one incident. it was march 7th when the russians were still in full control of this area, and a group of cars was driving down the highway. they turned around after apparently taking fire from the tank position. this car stops, and the driver gets out. then this. >> he raised his head, and in
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this moment he was shot. >> reporter: two people were killed that day. the family has confirmed the identities to cnn. after the incident, the drone filmed russian troops getting two further people out of the car and taking them away. it was the couple's 6-year-old son and a family friend traveling with them, the relatives confirmed. both were later released by the russians. the soldiers then search maxim's body and drag him away. this incident both traumatizing and motivating for ollek sander's drone unit. >> in normal life before the war, we were civilians. we liked to fly drones around casually and make youtube videos. but when the war begun, we became a vital part of the resistance. >> reporter: he sent us hours of video showing his team scoping out russian vehicles, even finding them when they're hidden and almost impossible to spot, and then helping the ukrainians
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hit them. >> we are eyes. we call eyes because with eyes you can see, and you can report. and as soon as you see, you can conduct strikes, artillery. >> reporter: how long does it take your information to the right places to be able to act on the intelligence you provide? >> in good time, it's a matter of minutes. >> reporter: and sometimes a little mosquito can take out a whole herd of elephants. this is drone footage of the unity searching for a massive column of russian tanks and armored vehicles, and this is that column after the drones found it. he tells me units like his played a major role fending off russian troops despite the ukrainians being vastly outgunned. >> we are agile. we need to go. but the army, they have to stay. they're ordered to stay, they stay. they're dying, but they stay and hold the ground. >> reporter: nobody knows how many russians died here but the group said it was many, taken out with a band of amateur drone pilots looking to defend their
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homeland. fred pleitgen, cnn, mila, ukraine. >> joining me now from kyiv, at 26 years old, he is the youngest member of the ukrainian parliament, and he's now on the front lines of this conflict with russia. thank you so much for joining us. with everything that you've now seen, you've seen the atrocities firsthand in bucha, how difficult has this been for you? you're just 26 years old. how have you made that transition from being a politician to a frontline soldier? >> well, the reality is kyiv from day one was a frontline city. kyiv essentially was a situation in which everyone had to become or learn skills that can be of use in defense of the town. so the point was that everybody was a soldier in kyiv, and as far as my skills are concerned,
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the question is soldier skills are getting better, but they are by no means level with some of my comrades in arms who have lived through the worst in the eight years of fighting in the east. i still try and help with bringing supplies and technical support and things that they need. so my uses are multifaceted. >> this war has taken a very horrendous twist in the sense we're now seeing what the russian soldiers are doing in those towns and cities that they've occupied for a period of time. you've now seen that firsthand. how do you process that first off, and secondly, how do you negotiate a peace deal after knowing what's happened there? >> well, first i think this is only the beginning. when you think of the cities like mariupol where there's no understanding of what's level, but there's an understanding what's damaged, and that's
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entire city that is essentially now grinded to something, and a city of half a million which is there no more. you see that basically there will be many more buchas that will be uncovered as we liberate many more parts of ukraine. as far as the peace negotiations, i mean it's very clear that we will have a difficult process there, but it's not just a difficult process. it's the fact that we are unwilling and unable to accept anything that will disrespect all those who have been lost in this battle, in this war. we need russians to get out, and we need to choose our own future. we need our integrity, our sovereignty secured. >> how have the last six or seven weeks changed you and those around you? >> they changed the whole idea
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because in the beginning, the motivation basically was with the principle of the fact that we want to show putin and to the world that our nation does exist and does have a vision of its own future, that it will defend no matter the cost, no matter what it takes. but now it's far more than that. it's about justice that we seek, that we demand for all those who have lost in this fight. >> you too have suffered a personal loss as well. i believe your girlfriend, who was a journalist, was killed? >> she was far more than a girlfriend. the ten years that we knew each other, the ten years that we lived through everything together from the teenage hood to now. and, yes, she was killed by the russian shelling, and it's just one of the examples of how senselessly russians were trying to destroy anybody who was here
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in kyiv, trying to cover the madness of their invasion. again, and she was telling the story to the world together with some of the best american tv, and she paid the highest price for that. but she will live on in all the projects and the works she has done for ukraine and for the world. and we will make justice come for her death. >> my condolences and apologies for understating the relationship. where do you see this now going with putin concentrating his firepower in the east? do the ukrainians have a chance of mounting a counteroffensive? can you bring this to an end from a military point of view? >> we are now mounting counteroffensive. the reality is that in kyiv, people and the media especially described this as a regrouping or russians moving away.
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in reality, they were smashed in kyiv. basically my unit was smashing their units that were essentially trying to cut kyiv off from supply lines to the west and failed badly. the reality is that russians basically suffered first defeats of the war here around kyiv and were unable to even pretend that they have a chance of securing the capital. so the russians basically tried to pull out everything they could, but they lost very much. and your journalists can travel now around kyiv and see just how bad the defeat is and how bad the destruction is. but, again, this war will continue until mr. putin decides to move his forces out of ukraine because we always wanted one thing, to be left alone to choose our own future, choose our own destiny. mr. putin doesn't want that. he wants to dictate what we should be, what we are.
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we won't let him. >> at 26 years old, you seem much older than your years. we appreciate you being with us. thank you. >> thank you very much. hundreds of ukrainian families escaped a war zone and now living in tents on the u.s./mexico border. their journey and their hopes of entering the united states in a moment. also, polish president sits down for an exclusive interview with cnn, and we asked him should nato do more on the military front after the horrific killings in bucha? ♪ baby got back by sir mix-a-lot ♪ unlimited cashback match... only from discover. this is vuity™, the first and only fdada approved eye-drp that improves age-related blurry near vision. wait, what that may hp you see up close.
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videos showed an apparent massacre of civilians in the town of bucha. dana bash asked mr. duda when would be the time to act militarily? >> is there a moment where you might not draw the line on a nato country getting attacked and you look and say, it is our moral obligation to help militarily more than we have been? >> translator: i talk to volodymyr zelenskyy quite frequently, i think most frequently from all the leaders. he's my direct neighbor. he's my colleague, and we had a conversation the day before yesterday. we had a long telephone call. he calls me quite frequently even in the middle of the night if something happens in ukraine, and that was the case when the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant was under attack. and i have this deep sense that we have to do everything to help ukraine, yes. this is the feeling that i have
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stemming not only from the necessity to provide security to poland, we want ukrainian state to exist as independent, sovereign, and free. but i also have a deep sense, i'm committed as a human being, as a colleague, and i'm doing everything i can in this respect. i'm saying prime minister boris johnson, we're going to talk about this. as i said a couple of days ago, i talked with u.s. president joe biden, and before that with madam vice president kamala harris, who also paid a visit here in warsaw. so actually we are consulting on a political level all the time. next week we will have president of germany in poland, and we're also going to raise these topics. so this mobilizing for support to ukraine within nato from all the sides and also from outside nato by all the states of good will understand what it means to defend your freedom --
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>> we should note that of the 4 million people who fled ukraine since these hostilities began, more than 2 million have crossed over the border and are staying in poland. and once they cross that border, many arrived with no idea of what comes next. here's cnn's salma abdelaziz. >> reporter: we're at the train station right up near the border with ukraine. but this is no longer just a transport hub. it's become essentially a humanitarian corridor, a place where people wait, a place where people find help, a place where people try to figure out what's next. there's about 2.5 million refugees here in poland, but they're not static. they're essentially a nomadic population, constantly moving and trying to find a place to stay. i'm just going to walk you around the train station to get a sense what these refugees are going through. you're going to see this long line behind me here. many of these are family who's have already been in poland for a few weeks. now they're trying to figure out where they're going to spend the
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night next. they might be moving on to another place. they might be moving on to other parts of europe. essentially they're trying to figure out a plan. and you're also going to see, of course, everywhere around here, these volunteers. one of the most common questions they get is, where am i going to spend the night? in the initial wave of refugees, they were coming in anticipation of the russian invasion. now many of the refugees that are coming are coming from some of the hardest hit areas, areas that were occupied by russian forces. so they need even more support, even more help from these volunteers. again, i'm just going to give you a sense of just how much it's touch and go for these volunteers. there are signs here everywhere that you can see, and essentially they're advertising room, board, food for just four to five days. that doesn't sound like much, but it's more certainty than many of these families are getting. again, more than 2.5 million refugees already here. those numbers expected to grow, and each and every one of them
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looking for a tiny bit of stability while they figure out what their future holds. se salma abdelaziz, cnn, on the poland-ukraine border. >> far from poland, far from europe itself, a few ukrainians have actually made it all the way to mexico/u.s. border. cnn's randi kaye has their story. >> reporter: this woman and 2 1/2-year-old son are living in a tent in tijuana, mexico. along with her husband, they escaped the war in ukraine and are hoping to enter the united states. so this is your son? >> yes, yes. >> one child? >> one. >> reporter: she shows me on the map where she says she once lived in western ukraine, before the russian bombs started to fall. how long did it take you to get to mexico, your travel? she tells me she traveled through four countries to get here. mexico is allowing ukrainians in
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with a simple travel visa. they just ran, she says, taking only a small suitcase and a blanket for her son. she worries about him with the cold temperatures at night. they are just one of hundreds of ukrainian families camped out here at the u.s. border with mexico. the tents are set up at the san ysidro border crossing just south of san diego. at the top of our visit, about 2,400 people were waiting to enter the u.s., which has promised to allow 100,000 ukrainians in on humanitarian grounds. they can stay for one year. how quickly are these refugees able to get into the u.s.? >> oh, my gosh, not quickly enough. we can get across maybe 300 people a day on a good day. some days are 200, and some days are 150. so it all depends. >> reporter: inna is from orange county, california, and helping coordinate the volunteer effort here. every family here has a number, and when it gets called, it's
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their turn to cross. do you have a number? this woman and her three children have number 1,594. they are sleeping here, she says, until it's their turn. >> toys. can i see? >> reporter: another woman, irina, tells me she's been sleeping in this tent with her five children. >> do you know when you might be called to go to the u.s.? >> i think soon. >> reporter: there is food and games for the children. we found this boy playing with blue and gold play-doh, the same colors as the ukrainian flag. eugene and his family escaped mariupol for mexico. >> our houses is destroyed. we lose everything, you know. we don't know anything about our friends, and moreover, we don't know nothing about the parents
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of my wife. >> reporter: if he and his family make it to the u.s., they will stay with family in california until it's safe to return to ukraine. >> i have a cousin. >> where? >> sacramento. >> reporter: as the day wore on, oksanaa refused to give up hope she and her mother would make it to the u.s. >> what is it like waiting for your number to be called? >> i don't know. we came hoping it was going to be fast, maybe another hour, but they're saying two or three hours at least until the number will be called. from there, i have no idea it will take us to cross the border. >> reporter: oksana lives in colorado and flew to warsaw hoping to bring her mom to the u.s. of before coming here, her 66-year-old mother had been sheltering in a basement in ukraine for ten days. >> will she come live with you in colorado? >> yeah. i have a good place to accommodate her. my kids can't wait to see her, the grandma, and spend time with her. we want her happy and safe and relaxed in the family circle. >> reporter: there is some good
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news. the woman you saw at the end of our story, oksana and her mother did make it across the border. they caught a flight from san diego to denver, so her mother was able to sleep in a warm bed and wake up to her granddaughters in colorado. as you know, she's one of the lucky ones. there are hundreds of thousands of people who have been seeking asylum here in the united states from countries and areas of the world that they say are dangerous, like haiti, mexico, central america. but back in march 2020, the trump administration put something in place called title 42, and the biden administration has upheld it. it is supposed to expire next month, but that has kept many of these migrants out of the united states because this isn't so much an immigration policy as it is a health policy. the administrations have said it was all done to prevent the spread of covid. so of course a lot of frustration and a lot of anger on behalf of these people from these other countries, who say it's dangerous for them, and they want to enter the united states as they watch these
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ukrainians get cleared to enter the united states. randi kaye, cnn, at the u.s. border with mexico. let's head live to brussels now. there's a nato foreign ministers meeting about to begin. the secretary-general of nato is speaking. let's listen. >> -- weapons and many different types of support to ukraine. nato also has responsibility to, of course, protect and defend all allies. so we have, since the invasion of ukraine, stepped up military presence in the eastern part of the alliance, and we are making sure that there is no room for misunderstanding, miscalculation in moscow about our willingness to protect and defend all allies. you being here provides us with a very good opportunity to sit down with you, to listen to your assessment, your analysis, and together discuss the way forward, how we can further support ukraine. so dmytro, please, welcome, it's
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good to have you here. >> good morning. thank you, jens, for welcoming me. i came to brussels to participate in the nato ministerial and to hold bilateral meetings with allies. my agenda is very simple. it has only three items on it. it's weapons, weapons, and weapons. we are confident that the best way to help ukraine now is to provide it with all necessary to contain putin and to defeat russian army in ukraine, in the territory of ukraine, so that the war does not spill over for them. in the recent weeks, ukrainian army and the entire ukrainian nation has demonstrated that we know how to fight. we know how to win. but without sustainable and sufficient supplies of all weapons requested by ukraine, these wins will be accompanied with enormous sacrifices.
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the more weapons we get and the sooner they arrive in ukraine, the more human lives will be saved. the more cities and villages will not be destructed, and there will be no buchas. this is my message to the allies. it's very simple. and i call on all allies to put aside their hesitations, their reluctance to provide ukraine with everything it needs because as weird as it may sound, but today, weapons serve the purpose of peace. thank you. >> secretary-general, are you ready or are allies ready to send more offensive weapons to ukraine? and one question to the minister. do you think that germany is doing enough? >> allies are sending many different types of weapons, and i think also we need to realize that allies have supported ukraine for many years. and these weapons, the support
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we have provided is proving its importance every day. we can see all the russian armor that has been destroyed. we have seen russian planes being shot down. and of course this is first and foremost because of the bravery, the commitment, and the courage of the ukrainian armed forces. but equipment that has been supplied is, of course, also of vital importance. i have urged allies to provide further support of many different types of systems, both the light weapons but also heavier weapons. it is as foreign minister kuleba states, ukraine needs weapons to defend its own country. and this is actually defensive self-defense, also of course with advanced weapons systems. so i expect this to be one important issue at the meeting today. >> when it comes to ukraine, there should be no such
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difference as between defensive weapons and defense of weapons because every weapon used in the territory of ukraine by the ukrainian army against a foreign aggressor is defensive by definition. so this distinct between defensive and offensive doesn't make any sense when it comes to the situation in my country. those who are saying we will provide ukraine with defensive weapons but we're not in a position to provide them with offensive weapons, they are hypocritical. this is simply unfair, unjustified approach. germany as you perfectly know has made a revolutionary step in changing its position from not agreeing to supply any weapons at all to allowing certain supplies and providing ukraine in particular with anti-tank
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weapons. however, of it's clear that james can do more given its reserves and capacity, and we are working with the german government on providing us with additional weapons. the issue that concerns me the most is the procedures and decision-making in berlin because while berlin has time, kyiv doesn't. >> minister, what do you think about the most recent sanctions proposals? >> well, i hope they will be applied in full. this is definitely a step forward. a week ago, the sanctions proposals were much weaker to say the least. we were very unhappy about it. we were working with partners in g7 and in the european union to ensure that sanction pressure is stepped up. we succeeded. but i cannot say that we succeeded 100%. we will continue to insist on full oil and gas embargo for
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russia, on de-s.w.i.f.t.ing all russian banks, on making sure that all ports are closed for russian vessels and russian goods with the minimal number of exemptions based on humanitarian grounds. and frankly speaking, i hope we will never face a situation again when to step up the sanctions pressure, you need -- we need atrocities like bucha to be revealed and to impress and to shock other partners to the extent that they sit down and say, okay, fine. we will introduce new sanctions. i don't believe that ukrainians have to pay with their lives, health, and sufferings for the political will of partners to impose sanctions. >> minister, what kind of weapons exactly do you need?
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is it planes, long-range missiles? what exactly are you asking for? >> planes, shore to vessel missiles, personal armored vehicles, heavy air defense systems. >> foreign minister, you say weapons, weapons, weapons are your priorities today. for you on a personal note, how difficult will it be when some of the nato allies tell you they can't give you some weapons because they don't want to plunge the west into a wider war with russia? and just a word on the support britain is giving your country. and secretary-general, can you just remind us what has changed in the last few days in light of the horrors we've seen, and do you think partners in nato, their minds will be changed today from what you hear from the minister? >> yes. there are two ways of approaching the issue of weapons supplies. the first one is when you do not want to supply anything, you
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come up with the argument, we don't have to do it because it will pull us or nato as a whole into the war. the second approach is completely different. the line of thinking is completely different. we will provide ukraine with all necessary weapons so that we -- neither we nor nato as a whole will have to fight in this war because ukrainians will do it for us. i think the deal that ukraine is offering is fair. you give us weapons. we sacrifice our lives, and the war is contained in ukraine. this is it. the united kingdom has been at the forefront of providing ukraine with all necessary assistance, and we deeply appreciate that help. >> i think fundamentally what you have seen over the last days is the brutality of this war, and that has just highlighted the importance of support to ukraine. and therefore i think it is important that we have minister kuleba here today to meet all nato allies and to discuss how
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we can further support ukraine. nato allies are providing many different types of weapons, also heavier systems, advanced systems, and also systems that can shoot down planes and of course attack russian armor. and it is exactly as minister kuleba said, that ukraine is fighting a defensive war. so this distinction between offensive and defensive weapons doesn't actually have any real meaning in defensive war as ukraine is fighting. what we also have seen is, of course, that we need both the support with weapons but also to step up sanctions, and therefore i also welcome the fact that nato allies are now in the process of stepping up further sanctions on russia. nato brought support to ukraine, but nato is not sending troops
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to be on the ground, and we also have a responsibility to prevent this conflict from escalating beyond ukraine and become even more deadly, even more dangerous and destructive. so we are providing support, but at the same time, working hard to prevent escalation of the conflict. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> we've been listening there to the secretary-general of nato, jens stoltenberg, as well as the ukrainian foreign minister. before this meeting of nato foreign ministers gets under way. when the ukrainian foreign minister was asked what does he need from this meeting, weapons, weapons, weapons. he went on to say basically they need all sorts of weapons, both defensive and offensive, and made the point that those countries drawing a distinct between those two types of
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weapons are essentially being hypocritical. he says this is a war that can be contained in ukraine providing they get the kind of matériel they need, which is planes, armored vehicles, heavy armor defense. we know some tanks have arrived from the czech republic and there is other military shipments on their way, but clearly the ukrainians need a lot more if they are to contain this fight against vladimir putin and have any chance of actually mounting a successful counteroffensive. that meeting set to get under way there in brussels with the nato foreign ministers. we'll continue to keep an eye on that. in the meantime, we'll take a short break. you're watching cnn. nt-based ad, helps alleviate stress on skin. so you can get back in sync. new dove men. a restorative showower for body and mind.
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as it looks to turn up the pressure on the country and vladimir putin's unprovoked war on ukraine. the move coming after new images revealed atrocities on the ground, including in the city of bucha. >> bodies left in streets as russian troops withdrew, some shot in the back of the head with their hands tied behind their backs. civilians executed in cold blood. bodies dumped into mass graves. the sense of brutality left for all the world to see unapologetically. there's nothing less happening than major war crimes. responsible nations have to come together to hold these perpetrators accountable. >> among the new actions, full blocking sanctions on russia's answer bank and alfa bank which will prohibit transactions with u.s. final institutions. there will be new sanctions on russian elites, including the russian president's two adult
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daughters. europe's latest proposed sanctions include a ban on certain russian imports including coal. oil and gas are not on the list. in addition, transactions with four key russian banks would also be outlawed and russian vessels banned from docking in eu ports. a ban on exports of certain goods and components such as computer chips would be designed to hit russian industry and technology. the uk has already announced a new set of sanctions against russia. they include a full asset freeze on sberbank and the credit bank of moscow and a ban on new british investments in russia. britain says it will also end its dependency on russian coal and oil by the end of the year. despite efforts from the international community, sanctions on russia haven't turned the tide of the war in ukraine. key figures haven't changed their stance on the war and economic hardships only seem to be impacting ordinary people.
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cnn's nina dos santos looks at how russian oligarchs are reacting to the sanctions. >> reporter: another week, another sanctioned asset seized. on monday, spain took possession of this superyacht, the tango, owned by tycoon viktor vekselberg. t t now in the invasion's second month, experts acknowledge the pressure on moscow's oligarchs is having a limited effect. >> i for one would certainly like to see a much more vocal community of oligarchs and using what little leverage they have with putin to make him understand the misery he's inflicting on ukraine. >> do you think you'll see that? >> i think it's pretty unlikely. we've seen what happens if people cross vladimir putin, and these people that are being sanctioned won't want to go the same way. >> reporter: last month, russia's president, a man accused of poisoning his adversaries, which he denied,
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said traitors will be spat out like flies. the u.s., the uk and the eu have together sanctioned over 1,000 russian elites and defense firms, making it illegal for westerners to provide them with cash or services. yet only a handful have so far spoken out against the invasion. they've broken ranks with the kremlin and called for the bloodshed to end. friedman, born in ukraine, says he has limited sway these days. >> just create enormous pressure for us personally, but we do not have any impact for political decisions. >> their line has been they have no influence so they're finnocet in all of this. >> reporter: former government officials have let it be known that they are against the events in ukraine. neither agreed to speak to cnn on camera. roman abramovich's attempts to
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mediate in peace talks haven't stopped his prized chelsea football club and a fleet of boats from being hit either as he now tries to sell the team. he's denied links to putin, saying none of his activities merited sanctions. public opinion is certainly souring against kremlin-connected especially in prime parts of central london. this mansion behind me was broken into by squatters who made their way up to the balcony and unfurled a sign in protest to the war in ukraine. the reason they said they targeted this particular edifice was because they believed it to be owned by a russian oligarch. that oligarch, oleg deripaska, recently said, quote, all sides would lose out with tragic consequences for the entire world. >> i think when it comes to sanctions on oligarchs, they are symbolic. they keep the issue in the public eye. >> reporter: in essence, this is a p.r. exercise? it's definitely a p.r. exercise. >> reporter: authorities appear to be aware of this.
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on wednesday, the u.s. said it will now target the assets of putin's two adult daughters. nina dos santos, cnn, london. after the break, we'll take you to the american southwest where a lake once a haven for boaters with its beautiful views, now a drought has robbed the lake of its deep waters. stay with us. you're watching cnn. >> the lake used to go -- used to go half a mile around the corner, and now it starts way back here. i cannot believe this. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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well, many effects of climate change can be seen when they happen, such as stronger hurricanes, mud slides, and hotter temperatures. but some of the effects are slower. our chief climate correspondent, bill with weir takes us to the drought-ravaged southwestern u.s. and a slow-motion disaster happening there. >> reporter: just a couple years ago, this part of lake powell
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was pretty enough to put in the brochure. but today, there is no water. only sand. can't paddle around lone rock anymore. if you haven't been out west in a while, haven't seen the state of the colorado river and its reservoirs, you would be shocked. this is what powell looked like just last spring when you could still float around lone rock. but the satellite shows it losing island status, as a lake level fell over 40 feet. and the lake used to go -- used to go half a mile around the corner. and now, it starts way back here. i cannot believe this. while hurricanes, floods, and wildfires can upend your life in a moment, droughts are slow-motion disasters and this one is now in its 23rd year. with the region's population booming and another winter without enough snow, there are no signs of relief.
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but when you are house boating on what's left of lake powell, it's still gorgeous. it's still so easy to forget that just since the mid-'80s, the water level has dropped 177 feet. that's like ten of these yachts stacked on top of each other. >> this is a temporary dock. get us access to the -- to the marina. >> reporter: so the tourism industry has no choice but to adapt. making ramps longer, as the lake gets lower. >> this was -- was connected straight up there. so, at one point, we would have been high enough that that would have been a straight angle. >> yeah. this is not a decade or two. this is a year or two since its drop. >> yeah. this is within two to three years. >> if it continues to go down another 10, 15 feet, we might have to shut down. >> reporter: for max, the changing canyons means more people eager to explore them and his rental kayaks and paddle boards. but not enough safe places to put them in. and he knows that big picture,
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40 million people and their animals and crops in seven states and mexico depend on colorado river water, not to recreate but to live. >> manmade climate change, um, i do believe is a thing to a certain extent. but i do believe the earth goes through cycles, and this could just be another cycle. but i don't see any good evidence of it getting any better anytime soon. >> reporter: in a first of its kind gallup poll, one in three americans say they have been personally affected by severe weather the past two years, and for those who have regardless of party, they are much more likely to say the climate crisis demands action. but only 3% say they have experienced drought. this may approbe because for mo tap water keeps flowing and here house boaters keep coming. what do you say to someone who sees this as proof, alarming proof, of sort of a manmade climate crisis? >> some of it is manmade. there is no doubt about it. you got more users using the water out of the colorado river.
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you have got more -- you got more of everything than you had 50 years ago. it's that simple. >> reporter: would you label your business a victim of drought? >> we have had to change the way obviously the way we do a lot of things. at this point, i would not say we're a victim. i would say we're an adapter. >> reporter: and from now on, it seems, anyone who wants to live in the american southwest will have to be an adapter. not victims, adapters, that's the rallying cry there in page, arizona. but you can only adapt so far in a -- in a drought that's the worst in 1,200 years. they are getting creative when it comes to conservation. las vegas, paying people to tear up their lawns. in california, asking people to ration voluntarily with limited success. until people turn on the tap and see nothing come out, uh, it will seem that this drought is not as bad as it is. but water planners are really, really worried these days and it's easy to see why.
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this is cnn breaking news. hello, i'm john vause live in lviv, ukraine. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. thank you for joining us as we report on day 43 of russia's unprovoked war on ukraine. and ukrainian authorities now reporting heavy fighting in the eastern part of the country, especially the luhansk and donetsk regions known as the donbas. apparently, part of russia's new strategy. withdraw from the north and focus on taking russian-speaking areas in the east and the port of mariupol in the south.
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