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with a criminal indictment. remember, the criminal does have the ability to defer that information to the department of justice but that's just a formality. it's up to merrick garland to make the final call. >> ryan nobles, thank you so much. the news continues. let's hand it over to jake tapper who is in lviv, western ukraine tonight. ukraine tonight. jake. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com thanks so much. i appreciate it. i'm jake tapper live from lviv, jane, at the beginning of another ominous week. putin's army can be seen readying for a major offensive in the east of the country. the new commander, known for his cruelty with a history as targeting civilians. he's known as the butcher of syria. as brutal as russian attacks on civilians in ukraine have been already, complete with atrocities and slaughtered women and children, the fear is now
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that the worst could be yet to come here. also it bears noting that you don't change a commander if you're winning a war. so, there's a real fear this invasion could turn even more brutal than what we've already seen. here was the pentagon today on that eight-mile-long russian convoy believed to be headed from the donbas region. >> another convoy of vehicles that are heading south towards that town of izium, we believe these are the early stages of a reinforcement effort by the russians in the donbas. >> cnn has geolocated this new video that shows this large column of russian military vehicles inside russian not far from the eastern border of ukraine. vehicles are seen facing northwest in the direction of donbas. there is also new tape tonight of an alleged ukrainian strike on a russian weapons depot in the luhansk region of donbas.
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ukrainian officials claim they destroyed an ammunition warehouse there, and ukyou can e burned out shells and rockets scattered all over the ground. meanwhile, weeks of relentless bombardment in the southern port city of mariupol have left tens of thousands dead according to ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. this is new drone video that shows the theater, as you may recall, where hundreds were killed last month in mariupol while seeking shelter, many of them women and children. 183 children have reportedly been killed so far in this invasion, with hundreds more wounded, according to new numbers released today. those numbers do not take into account many parts of ukraine. we're also learning that nine volunteer drivers working to evacuate those stranded in mariupol remain missing after being detained by the russian military. the head of the ukrainian
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organization, help people, says ten of his drivers were trying to get civilians out of the besieged city of mariupol, when russian soldiers stopped their vehicles, demanded that the evacuees be driven in those very same minibuses into russia. the drivers refused. they were detained. the head of the group lost contact with nine of the ten drivers. one was released. we should note cnn cannot independently verify the whereabouts of this drivers or the conditions under which they're being held. so, tonight the question. are we entering an even uglier, bloodier stage of this war? and is there more that the west could be doing to help ukraine? state department spokesman ned price will join us in a moment. but first to the capital of kyiv, where cnn's fred pleitgen takes us through what he himself witnessed northwest of the capital today. fred? >> reporter: hi there, jake. yeah, and one of the main things that really stood out is that
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the destruction from russia's offensive to try and take the capital kyiv is ones that ill fated and beaten back by the ukrainians. that caused a lot more damage than anybody really would have thought. and one thing that really struck us as we went through village after village that was almost completely destroyed is that there are so many people out there who are absolutely traumatized by the brutality of the occupation that was there and the fighting they witnessed. at the same time, there are still a lot of dead bodies being recovered in a lot of these places. so, we do have our warn our viewer that what we're about to show you is very graphic and certainly disturbing. the tour is a sad routine for the body collectors in the outskirts of kyiv. finding corpses has become early normal here. a house destroyed by an artillery strike, a body burned beyond recognition. a mangled car wreck, two bodies
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burned beyond recognition. a house that was occupied by russian troops, an elderly lady dead in the bedroom. these bodies evidence of a brutal russian occupation and then a fierce fight by the underdog ukrainians to drive them out. a fight 81-year-old katerina witnessed up close in her village. there were explosions, explosions from all sides. it was scary, she tells me. i am in my house. i cross myself and lie down, and then i hear how it thundered and all the windows in the house were broken. the ukrainians tell us the russian troops didn't even bother collecting most of their own dead. more than a week after vladimir putin's army was pushed out of here, they showed us the body of what they say was a russian soldier still laying in the woods. and that's not all they've left behind. this demining unit says they found hundreds of tons of unexploded ordnance in just a matter of days, including
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cluster munitions like this bomblet, even though the russians denied using them. these weapons are extremely dangerous for civilians that might accidentally touch them. this is a high explosive fragmentation bomb to kill people designed just to kill people. they blow up the bomblet on the spot and move the heavier bombs to a different location for a massive, controlled explosion. the body collecting, the mine sweeping, and the clearing up of wreckage are just starting in this area. and yet this pile of demolished vehicles, both military and civilian, are powers in the kyiv suburb. if you had to picture russia's attempt to take the ukrainian capital of kyiv, it would look a lot like this, destruction on a
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massive scale and nothing to show for it. russia's military was humiliated by the ukrainians and caused a lot of harm in the process. and they've devastated scores of families at irpin cemetery, the ne newly widowed weep. her husband fought alongside their son in irpin and died in his arms on the battlefield. yulia, killed by a russian mortar shell. and tetyana, her husband oleksandr promised he would come back in a few hours, but was killed defending their neighborhood. i'm very proud of him, tatiana says. he's a hero. we have many people in ukraine who have not fled and are defending our home. sasha died just 200 meters from our house. laying the dead to rest, another sad task they've become
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proficient at performing in this area. close by, the next funeral is already underway. >> and jake there are going to be a lot more funerals happening there and obviously in many other places towards the northwest of kyiv in that very large swath of land that the russians invaded. and there's certainly a lot of grief, a lot of anger among the population there. but i do have to say, there is a lot of resill dience as well. one of the things we've been witnessing around kyiv is many people who fled the ukrainian capital are already coming back and trying to breathe life into the streets. there's a lot of traffic trying to get back into the city. some shops reopened. one thing that stood out to us today, there was a playground, which had been abandoned. we saw children playing there once again, jake. >> fred pleitgen in kyiv. thank you so much. so, what might this new phase of the war mean for attempts to end it diplomatically? i spoke earlier this evening
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with u.s. state department spokesman ned price. >> there are reports this evening from ukrainian military and government officials that russia has apparently used chemical weapons against ukrainians in part of mariupol. cnn cannot verify these reports at this time. has the biden administration confirmed this? if it's true, what does it mean? >> well, like you, jake, we haven't been in a position to confirm these reports just yet. but here's what i can tell you. before today, there was credible information available to us that the russians may have been preparing to use agents, chemical agents, potentially tear gas mixed with other agents. it's part of the effort to weaken, to enkaps tate the ukrainian military and civilian elements that are entrenched in mariupol, using these agents as part of an effort to weaken those defenses. we shared that information with our ukrainian partners. we are going to be in direct conversations with them to try and determine what exactly has
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transpired here. and as soon as we gain additional fidelity, we'll be in a better position to say what this was or what this may have been. >> ukraine says that the russian offenses in the east, in the donbas region, has already begun. and they say it will not be long before those front lines are replenished with more russian troops and supplies, as evidenced by the eight-mile-long convoy of russian vehicles that we've seen. jane yans are calling on the west, on the u.s. and nato, to step up with even more advanced weaponry, not just missile systems, but offensive weaponry, fighter jets and more. where is nato? where is the u.s. on that? >> well, i can tell you we met with foreign minister kleba last week in brussels. the foreign minister met with our allies as well. and foreign minister kleba came with three agenda items, as he put it, weapons, weapons,
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weapons. and what he heard from antony blinken is three answers, yes, yes, and yes. we are going to serve every day, including the united states and some 30 allies and partners providing security assistance to the ukrainians. there are deliveries being made every single day. and we're also providing new systems as a result of this constant coordination with our ukrainian partners. you may have noticed on friday, our slovakian allies were able to transfer an s-300 system. this is a long-range antiaircraft system that our ukrainian partners had been asking for. what's important here is our slovakian allies were able to transfer this because the united states was able to back fill their missile defense system. today we've heard we're going to be in a position to provide our ukrainian partners with artillery. this is also directly in response to the requests they have made in recent days. so, we're in constant coordination and consultation with them to make sure that we are providing them with precisely what they need to take on this threat and precisely the
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scale and scope that they need it over the course of this admini administration. we provided $2.4 billion worth of security assistance, $1.7 billion in the past month alone. if you add in contributions from our allies and partners around the world, there's a lot more than that. >> ned, ukraine's foreign minister kleba says it's extremely difficult to even think about negotiating with russia after the atrocities seen in bucha and other parts of the country, the attacks on the civilians at the kramatorsk train station. is there any chance for a diplomatic solution, given the fact that the russians seem to be very brazenly committing war crimes, if not genocide? >> i'm sorry to say the diplomatic track doesn't seem to hold a lot of promise at the moment. you don't often negotiate with allies and close friends. you negotiate with adversaries
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and competitors. and clearly what the russians are doing here is brutalizing the ukrainian people, going after the ukrainian state, pursuing ukraine's territorial integrity. but our goal -- and we know that the goal of our ukrainian partners, who are -- remain engaged and remain engaged in good faith in diplomacy is to bring an end to this senseless violence. we know that this war can only end with a diplomatic solution. that's why we're doing two things. as i mentioned before, we're providing them with massive amounts of security assistance so they can use their battlefield as leverage to make the point to the russians this is not a battle they can win militarily. number two, we are continuing to put a chokehold on russia's economy, russia's financial system, to make it clear that this is not something that the russian federation or the kremlin can endure over the long haul. our hope, together with our ukrainian partners, is that these two cross winds, what
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we're doing with our ukrainian partners, what we're doing to the kremlin, will combine to make the russians deal seriously when it comes to dpiplomacy and negotiations. >> you say the only way this ends is with a diplomatic solution. that's not true entirely, right? it could end with russia being defeated or ukraine being defeated. i mean, president biden is calling for putin to be tried for war crimes. he's not going to be facing any accountability or any venue for the international criminal court or whatever unless he's defeated, right? >> well, russia will be strategically defeated. and we've already laid the groundwork for that. if you look at the toll on the russian economy, an economy that is contract by 14%, an economy that is losing some 600 multinational corporations, a country that is diplomatically isolated, a leader that is a pariah on the world stage, this will be a strategic defeat
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however and whenever this ends. but to your point about accountability, there has to be accountability. the point is that the wheels of accountability do tend to grind slowly, especially when it comes to war crimes. but we're doing a couple things right now. we have a team of american prosecutors, other experts on the ground in the region helping in the effort to collect, to analyze, to memorialize, and to share evidence of potential war crimes with the relevant accountability mechanisms. and right now we're focused on working with ukrainian prosecutor general. she has a team that is combing through this evidence, that is putting together a criminal case against those not only who may have perpetrated this on the ground, but every single person up the food chain. and if the evidence points to vladimir putin as a war criminal, and by all appearances it seems that it will, we will pursue that accountability as well. >> u.s. state department spokesman ned price, thanks for your time this evening.
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>> thanks, jake. coming up, documenting evil, as atrocities mount by the day in ukraine. i spoke with the country's prosecutor general, who is trying to build a case against russia for potential future war crimes trials. our team witnessed some of that investigation in action in a town outside lviv. we'll show you that next. llectin is infused with hyaluronic and peptide serums to m make your skin feel smoother and more radiant. new dove body love. face care ingredients now in the shower.
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and we're back live in lviv, ukraine, where we continue to monitor the growing list of russian atrocities, bombing a children's hospital, a train station massacre, mass graves in bucha, other crimes so brutal we can't even show or describe them on air. 5,800 individual criminal cases have already been open by the country's prosecutor general. i spoke with her earlier about what she's seen.
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>> we see horrors of war, a lot of war crimes. actually it is not only war crimes. now we can say about a lot of crimes against humanity. >> over the weekend, we met with prosecutors and witnesses who are making their cases against russia. about 90 minutes outside lviv at this pink school, up the stairs, past the paw prints in this grade school classroom, there's a war crimes investigation underway. ukraine's prosecutor yenl's office has employed teams of investigators to punish russia in international courts. ukrainians who have fled their
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homes and are willing to testify are asked to give detailed accounts of the language, uniforms, timing, and actions of those who wronged them and destroyed their lives. >> translator: the main idea is to officially set the status of these people as crime victims, for example, because they will get their right for compensation in the future. >> irina was a chief prosecutor in ukraine before the invasion. since march 28th, she's been collecting war stories from people sheltering in the west, even as her own village remains under russian control. >> translator: after i moved here to the relative safety in western ukraine, i heard the call from the prosecutor general's office that this group would be created, so i went and joined. i didn't hesitate even for a second. >> neither did this man, a witness from bucha.
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>> translator: it was important for me to tell but hard to tell. i'm still shaking. >> he's a long-time paramedic who says he helped the wounded back home. >> translator: there were people watching the equipment move along the street, and they were shot at. two people were running to a seller. one of them was killed. >> me, my son, and my brother were in the house and my wife and my daughter were in the cellar. >> reporter: he said he had a pitch fork ready. >> if they came into my house, i would use a pitch fork to kill them. if i got killed, it would be easier. >> his friend in a neighboring village was not as lucky. >> translator: she called me on the 26th or 27th of february. she has a mentally ill, disabled son who went out on the street to look at the tanks and machines, and they just shot him dead. >> how many people died and who knows how many will die? >> 63-year-old natalia is a
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retiree from kharkiv, who testified today about the brutality she witnessed by russian soldiers. >> translator: i can't say a good word about these people. i can't even call them people. maybe they have no brains at all. i don't know what they're thinking and how their mothers are bringing them up and giving meat to this war. >> she says she sheltered in her basement for six days. the windows have been blown out of her house, and her sister is dead. >> translator: she had a heart attack in the cellar where she was hiding because of the big stress. >> still natalia is not sure her story or any reparation for it means much. >> translator: how can they be punished? i don't think that they will be punished severely. only god can punish them. what they have done, it cannot be repaid by any money. >> by now, most have seen horrific images of war crimes on cnn and other news outlets. but there is much more too horrifying to show and much more
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news media have not seen that is being added into evidence. with a click, witnesses can upload videos and photos to this website created by the prosecutor general's office of ukraine. the interviews, however, are done in person. >> translator: people often cry during their questionings and so on, and it is much easier for the person who is in the same room to connect to the people being questioned and to find a better line of investigation. >> the sad truth, this part of the world has a lot of experience when it comes to such prosecutions. lviv university, in fact, is the alma mater of the two lawyers who came up with the legal concept of prosecutions at nuremberg for genocide and for crimes against humanity. in fact, one of those former law students here was working with the allied powers in 1942, prepared for those prosecutions at the same time members of his family here in lviv were being rounded up and killed because
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they were jewish. those ideas and laws hammered out betwill be used to go aftere grandchildren of those soviets. >> translator: i call russians cockroaches now, and i want to destroy those cockroaches. i want to crush them forever. >> he says he would join the military if he could. >> translator: i would fight but my eyesight is minus nine. i wouldn't see. >> instead, he's giving the court a clearer view of what's been done. >> yes, i can't help any other way. >> is this invasion, is this war, about to get even worse with the new russian commander, who is notoriously ruthless in charge? what might this looming offensive in donbas look like? we're going to be back with one of our top military analysts next. [singing] oven roasted
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he led the campaign in 2015 to 2016, one that flattened cities like aleppo, killing thousands of civilians, displacing millions more from their homes. and now amid russia's bid to take over eastern ukraine, the pentagon warns that putin's generals may feel pressure to deliver results no matter what the cost. >> i think sadly we can all expect that those same brutal tactics, that same disregard for civilian life and civilian infrastructure will probably continue, as they now focus in a more geographically confined area in the donbas. >> joining us now, retired brigadier general, mark kim met. when i spoke to jake sullivan yesterday, he essentially down
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played russia's overall chances of success just because this new general was going to be running the show. he noted that russia had already suffered strategic failure and already been scorching the earth. i wonder how you see it, considering what we know about this general and his, in the past, at least, complete disregard for syrian civilian lives? >> you know, i think you're right, jake. this guy is going to bring in far more brutal tactics than we've seen up to this point if in fact he was the one who ordered the attack on the railway station in kramatorsk, in my mind, that's a preview of coming attractions. he has a good mind. he has a different mind than other leaders in moscow have had. i think he was not picked to execute the same plan that they've been playing out for the last couple of weeks. no doubt he's told putin's got a different plan. there are a smaller area inside
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the donbas. so, it will be interesting to see what course of action he chooses to show some success before victory day on may 9th. >> a pentagon official, a senior pentagon official, has said that fighting in the donbas, between the ukrainians and russians will be like a knife fight because both sides will be familiar with the terrain, which is more rural and open area. how do battle tactics change in a place like the donbas? >> first of all, jake, i think we've got to recognize that they've been fighting there for the last eight years. so, that's a pretty torn up area, as it currently stands. they're all dug in. so, the knife fight analogy is correct, but i don't think we're going to see this straight attack to the west that people are projecting. if you take a look at that map you've got up there, standard russian tactics would have them attacking from the north and
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south behind the ukrainian lines to try to envelope them, as we call that tactic, sort of isolate them and then reduce them. i don't think they're going to come due west. they don't have enough troops, and that's not a very much of a finesse play. and i don't think he would have recommended that. >> there's this new video this evening purporting to show the aftermath of a ukrainian strike on a russian weapons depot in the donbas. is that significant, do you think? >> i really do because when you start to concentrate your forces the way the russians are trying to do now, that means they've go got to bring a huge amount of logistics on very few lines of communication, lines of resupply. so, while that gives the russians significantly more ammunition, supplies, fuel, and
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water, that has to be put in huge consolidated dumps. and those are the wonderful part for the ukrainians to aim for. if they're going to stop any type of major offensive, it's not going to be at the nose for the opposing forces. it's going to be by going against their knees and their achilles heel, which is their logistics. >> we know the u.s. has been sharing intelligence with ukraine for quite some time. satellite images and video show what russia is bringing to the fight. you can't really hide an eight-mile convoy. what should the ukrainians be doing to back up their forces do you think? >> i think they should be using intelligence to find those rocket, missile, and artillery battalions. because the russians love to use artillery. they used 9,000 cannons in a 35-mile stretch to get it -- to blow their way into berlin. and they love to blow their way through front lines and around
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the envelopments. so, the short answer is use that intelligence to find those missile, rocket, and artillery positions, take them out. and that will probably be, along with logistics, the second most important target they can attack. >> thank you so much brigadier general mark kem it always good to see you. coming up he escaped the horrors of bucha, but he refuses to leave ukraine. even amid the ugliness of this war, he is trying to bring some beauty to his family. ♪ oh, yesterday ♪ ♪ that was such an easy game to play ♪ >> he'll join us live next. ♪ oh i believe in yesterday ♪
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welcome back to lviv. today a fresh reminder of the heartbreaking costs of war through the eyes of a 9-year-old boy, who wrote this letter to his mother. ukraine's ambassador read the letter during a u.n. security council meeting, and it says, in part, mama, this letter is my gift to you on the women's day on the 8th of march. thank you for the best nine years of my life. many thanks for my childhood. you are the best mama in the world. i will never forget you. i wish you good luck in the heavens. i wish you to get to paradise. i will try to behave well to get to paradise too. that little boy's mother was
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killed by russian soldiers while trying to escape by car. and the boy was left alone in the vehicle until he was rescued and taken to a shelter. i want to talk to another parent here on the ground. alex was able, thankfully, to escape the horrific scenes we're seeing from bucha with his wife and 2-month-old son. he is actively using social media to try to get the message out about the atrocities that he is witnessing. and alex joins me now. alex, first we are so glad that you are well. how are you? how is your wife? how is your two-month-old son, who was born just two weeks before the war began? how are you all doing? >> thank you. we are a lot better than a lot of other people in the east of ukraine, especially mariupol.
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we consider ourselves in a paradise compared to them. >> talk to me about your escape from bucha and irpin and why you've been documenting the atrocities that you've witnessed along the way. >> well, i first heard about my neighbor on this third week of the war, who was trying to evacuate his family, and he was shot dead in his car. i couldn't sleep at night. i was so shocked. then the next day i heard about another case about a dozen of neighbors, their attempt to evacuate. and six of them were killed. and then another day i heard about another case. and so every day i would hear new cases in irpin and bucha.
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so, i started to document those cases and then talk to international lawyers to independent investigate those cases. >> and just to be clear because i just want people at home to understand, these are not soldier friends of yours. these are moms and dads, regular citizens just being killed in cold blood. >> absolutely. those are civilians, neighbors i lived with for years, and they were just trying to evacuate with clothes and their cars and the sign "children" on them. >> you've been documents life living inside a war zone, including that very touching moment where you sang "yesterday" by the beatles to your little baby boy, which was just born just two weeks before the war.
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♪ i don't know ♪ ♪ she wouldn't say ♪ ♪ i said ♪ >> what does that song, what does that moment mean to you? what are you going to tell your boy about this moment in time when he sees these videos in years to come? >> you know, this is not like a lullaby for him. and i started singing it to him before the war. but now when the war started, i started to realize that this song is actually about the current situation. there is a shadow hanging over me. i'm not half the man i used to be. those are the words that struck me. this is a totally different life. and i hope that his life, his tomorrow and our tomorrow, is different. and when he thinks about
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yesterday, or just today now, he -- he realizes that we paid a lot for the freedom that he will have in the future. >> i don't know if you saw, but john lennon's son did a version of "imagine," that is on social media. have you seen it? >> yes. it was so fantastic. and i thank him a lot for doing that. >> you've said this is a massacre of your entire nation. how concerning is it that the russian people don't see it that way. i understand you've stopped communicating with some of your relatives in russia. have they seen the images that you've been posting? >> i actually sent them directly some images and videos and photos of what i see around me, starting from day one when military airplanes were flying
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over my apartment buildings. and then they actually said they didn't believe it because they thought it was fake. >> alex dayrabekov, stay in touch with us, please. we want to have you back. a real honor talking to you tonight. >> thank you, sir. coming up, they're not ukrainian, and they don't even live in ukraine. but families such as this one are scared they could be next on putin's list of civilian targets because some of them have seen what russia did to their homeland before. we're going to take you to georgia. that's next.
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former soviet repick. they wonder what happens if they become putin's next target again. some of them spoke to cnn's matt rivers. >> he was born in georgia, he just didn't think he'd be back here quite yet. his family moved to russia 30 years ago fleeing the georgian civil war. it was in moscow they built a life where he met his wife an ya and where his kids were born. he's told them the truth about the horrors in the current war in ukraine, and says he worried what would happen if one of their teachers in russia echoed putin's propaganda that this war is just. >> he knows what's really going, and he will say, no, you are not right. and it could be trouble for him. >> you were worried that your son would have problems? >> yes, yes. >> wow. >> reporter: so the family left for georgia just a few days after the war began though anya isn't completely convinced they will be safe here either.
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if no one stops putin, she says, he can easily go both to georgia and to the west, and she is not alone in her fears. georgians have a long, brutal history with russia. russian troops invaded in 2008, and thousands of troops remain in two breakaway provinces of georgia. in 1989 in the capital of tbilisi nearly two dozen protesters were killed and hundreds injured by soviet troops as they advocated for independence. people gathered over the weekends outside the parliament building in tbilisi to mark the anniversary of that massacre. georgian flags this year joined by those from ukraine for what's now called national unity day. >> it's a big day each year in georgia but this year it's made even more important given what we're seeing russian troops do in ukraine. decades of russian aggression hear have left deep scars and many now see parallels between putin's invasion of ukraine and what they fear could happen in
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georgia. >> russia pose threat for georgian independence, for our so sovereignty, for our territorial integrity. >> do you think there's a chance russia could invade georgia again? >> yes, this threat is always, every country across europe not only georgia is under threat. >> back this their apartment, he and his family wholeheartedly agree. they told us they don't want their children and grandchildren to grow up in what they call north korea 2.0, and for that grandma galena says people must understand a crucial point. she says the whole world must understand that ukraine is now really not fighting just for itself. it's fighting for everyone and the whole world must unite and stop putin because he won't stop with ukraine. >> the family told us that before they left moscow in the beginning days of the war, they were talking to some of their friends in moscow, and they said they were shocked to hear from people they considered themselves close to that they were repeating the lines of russian propaganda, that the
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ukrainian government was fa fascist, that they were drug addicts that we so often hear from russian state media and that the family tells us played a role in their decision to leave. jake. >> matt rivers in tbilisi, georgia. thank you so much. we'll be right back. [♪] did you know many anti-fungal products are not intended for the nails?
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thank you for watching. i'll be back again tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. eastern for cnn tonight live from lviv. i will see you tomorrow afternoon on "the lead" which begins at 4:00 p.m. eastern. "don lemon tonight" starts right now. >> i saw you interview the prosecutor general of ukraine, and she said that her office is not only seeing war crimes but going further to say that they're seeing crimes against humanity. >> that's right, she said it in the context of bucha, where she has visited several times where
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they're still exhuming bodies from mass graves. crimes against humanity has to do with protection of individuals and egregiously violent acts. and actually, it's interesting, the term crimes against humanity was devised by a lawyer educated right here at lviv university, and he was working with the americans and the brits on the prosecutions that would end up being the nuremberg trieals in 1942 at the same time his family was being rounded up and killed by the nazis right here in lviv. >> it's really important what you're doing bringing the p personal stories to our viewers. get some rest, we'll see you tomorrow. >> this is don lemon tonight. it is hard to imagine we could be on the verge of thing getting much worse. after more than six weeks of bombs raining down from the skies, pulverizing, homes, schools, hospitals, bodies
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