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light that leads to new roots for authorities to pursue, federal prosecutors are likely, wolf, to decide whether to bring charges as soon as all the review on these devices is complete. >> paula reed with all the latest information. paula, thank you very much. i appreciate it very, very much. we'll stay on top of this story. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett starts right now. next, breaking news. a manhunt underway in new york city after a gunman opened fire inside a busy subway car. at least 29 people hospitalized, and tonight we're learning investigators have identified the suspect. we're awaiting an nypd press conference as we speak. also more breaking news. president biden says putin is committing genocide, a word biden and most of his allies have not used. if it's genocide, what are he
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and his aides willing to do about it. plus a suspect arrested outside their russia home. his wife is our guest. out front tonight, breaking news. intensified manhunt right now. we are awaiting an nypd press conference scheduled to start truly any minute and any moment. this comes as cnn has learned that investigators identified the shooter that opened fire inside a subway car in brooklyn, sending at least 29 people to the hospital. sources tell cnn he was identified tluhrough a credit cd that was dropped at the scene this morning. they are now looking at a u-haul van that was paid for by that credit card before this.
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perari benyata told police after he got out of surgery tonight, i feel shocked. i feel shaky. i don't know if i can ever ride a train. several major cities across the country are increasing patrols at mass transit officials and president biden made this statement just hours ago. >> we're not letting up on it until we find the perpetrator. >> shimon porokupecz is standin by. what are you learning? >> reporter: kate, what we're hearing from officials is the gunman picking, perhaps, the worst time to open fire in a crowded subway car. he did it at a time when the
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train was coming into the station, at one point even briefly stopping before it entered the station, trapping dozens of passengers inside that smoke-filled subway car. and so now officials are telling us they are going to have this press conference here. we were supposed to get it some time ago, but now there's been some delays, so officials say they'll be having this press conference soon. what we have learned from officials is they have recovered the weapon they believe was used in this shooting. they have recovered the smoke canister that the suspect used as well as a bag filled with some kind of fireworks and other smoke canister. they also recovered high-capacity magazines. but as you said, a key piece of information for them that they recovered was this credit card, a credit card that they believe the alleged shooter dropped in a panic as he was fleeing the subway stop, and they almost immediately, within hours of this shooting, were able to identify thiim and then link him
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to this u-haul that he rented, and they say this is how this all started to unravel and that's how officials started putting gt pieces together about learning who the person is they believe is responsible. as utsd, many, many people still remain in the hospital. some of them have been released, some of them suffering from shrapnel wounds and also just trying to get away from the sheer panic, that smokey subway car as passengers tried to flee. officers responded quickly and that perhaps saved lives. the other thing, kate, the gunman's gun that he used jammed, and they think this could have been far worse had that not happened. >> it's a terrifying prospect of where we would be and what we would be looking at if that gun had not jammed.
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on the u-haul, shimon, is there any details about what they were finding. ichb they were told, we don't have any information what they found unless, but as i can imagine, we wanted to make surely shir if. so you have the bomb squad there, so they're to go their work in other ways that there's inside that dam that could be exposed and how they even came to find that uf hai haul. they put out an alert to people here in the city saying they were looking for this u-haul. we had reported it. the police put out an alert along the nypd, officers notifying them they were looking for this u-haul. but it's just remarkable how quickly they were able to put
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this all together and really learned so much about this individual so quickly. and we had some indications early on in talking to sources they knew who they believed to be the suspect. police have not released any information about him, and that's in part because they say they don't want him to know they're on to him, so they're going to continue to look for him. they have some good leads, so hopefully this can get wrapped up tonight. >> here is the press conference. rear going to hear from the mayor of the city of new york, keyshawn sewell, chief of detective james espy will update us on the investigation. we also have assistant director in charge of the fbi, in charge of the new york office, it is
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efforts that be ongoing, especially the special argt charge of firearms, but we'll begin with fwhormd from the mayor of the city of new york, eric adams adams.
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we're having an audio difficulty, so we'll regroup here. we're going to come to the police commissioner and when the audio is fixed, we'll come back. >> they're clearly having technical difficulties. actually, let's listen to the police commissioner. >> we need to get this information out to the public, it's so important. we are truly fortunate this was not significantly worse than it is. as we reported this afternoon, a
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man who was traveling on a manhattan-bound n train opened two canisters that dispensed smoke throughout the subway car. he then shot multiple passengers as the train pulled into the 36th street station in sunset park. ten people were injured by gunfire, and an additional 13 were injured as they rushed to get out of the train station or they suffered smoke inhalation. some good news is that none of the injuries appear to be life threatening. as detectives processed the crime scene, they uncovered a 9-millimetre semiautomatic handgun, magazines and a hatchet. they also found liquid believed to be gasoline and a bag containing consumer grade fireworks and a hobby fuse. about an hour ago, detectives discovered a u-haul fan believed to belong to the suspect.
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clearly this individual boarded the train and was intent on violence. we're conducting a highly coordinated investigation that includes detectives, the fbi and therapeutic task force who have information tracing the firearm and balalistics. the suspect was wearing a neon gray sweatshirt. we need public assistance with additional information. we're asking anyone with information to call crimestoppers at 800-577-tips. we know this incident is of grave concern to new yorkers. we cannot lose sight of victims in this city. we will use every resource we can to bring those to justice who continue to prey on the citizens of new york. i'll ask chief james assak to come in and give an
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investigation. >> good evening, everybody. today at 8:24 a.m., on board a manhattan-bound n train, seven people were shot, four males and three females, and they were moved to hospitals. an additional 13 people suffered injuries of smoke inhalation, falling down or a panic attack. the information i'm about to give you is preliminary and it's subject to change right now. as that n train was between stations 59th street and the 36th street stations, seated in the second car in the rear corner was a dark-skinned male. various descriptions of his height are given. he is heavyset, wearing an orange-green nylon tight construction vest. he also had on an -- vai skplens
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a 450i69 degree. wntsz state the the rail oechd uch to 2 on a 9-millimetre floor. he bran dished the male then fleld the scene and the dekt tiflz are frantically trying to determine his whereabouts. recovered at that scene was a glockful v, one in the receipt and one in a backpack. we had 3 schanch reasonable doubtly.
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two detonated smock gre narksds a black garnl can. >> the u-haul at the seasonal. the arora muven tavat, the two scenes, the subway and the van, are very active and are still being processed. we are asking for anyone's help with information: cell phone video, witness information or if
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they can identify the perpetrator or the renter of this vehicle to call crimestorpz at 1-880 a 577 tips. o oorz. >> 12,500 infrom the mta and 12,500 from the local divisions. i want you all to know we're working on this, along with our partners of the rtf come, in. many. >> mr. mayor, we're ready for you. >> thank you, commissioner and
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chief today was a difficult day for new york. days like these are planned out too often, it seems, across ame america. ly. this called for this will at the 29th street station. a smoke bomb chls detonated and most of those r recall. i couldn't think of the mta crew and the. the sprld.
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you mi mu my dad will tchb that a ways. but this is not only a new york city problem. this rage, this violence, theemplz guns, these relentless shooters are an american wob wob. it is going to take you will. ah coat that allows infants ton sn you will r un. a the question where more guns it. there are over 400 million guns in it the six turns than other
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guns. we did not surrender all of america to this death. the seed of violence comes from anybody. there is a book of my life, this administration and this police. i will not stop until the peace that we deserve, and the reality of the experience, give you my word. as a former police officer this r it would. and that will cap tufr the individual responsible for today's low cal. >> well. >> the state, the city agencies. >> thank you, mr. mayor. i'd like to turn it over to attorney assistant agent of the fbi, marcus district.
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>> thank you, commissioner. i want to start by expressing our hopes and prayers that the vikz tims of this event m manicallily. i also want to echo. right now bi and my pd are fully engrachbld, and basically everything we can throw at it. we expect the progress to be ah long one as we tack down all information so recall. i would also as. there's a cell phone in their
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pocket. if you have mpl -- you'd like to share with us in connection with this investigation, please fbi.smoogs. you heard four of names of possible interests. many dpoirnl. i thank you for your partnership in the course of the investigation. thank you. >> we'll take a couple questions. >> is it assumed he fled on foot? >> we don't know a number of resorlsds. >> wgm, the viz blolz. >> so based on some preliminary
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information, there were some postings probably connected to our person of interest where he mentioned new york and he does mayor merch chin. >> so this person. he's not the certain of. >> we ever no one in custody it. we are looking for frank snamz. we know he wanted the key to a van. >> was this jail for three? is that correct? >> we're looking to see if he has any connection with the
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train. we know mr.ly. ly>> so we're t we're not reallily have. in an abundance of caution, we're going to catch keys together. >> that is subject to an investigation. we don't have that information yet. >> places, cannotly, approximate just. the keys to that you haul van were sfounld.
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zd md p the crime scene is still being processed now and the subway crimes crimes scene is newal noqlural. zmds you're investigating videos, but he confirmed that it was in recall -- the jid yoeld. we're still working to see if that's a. >> is there anything else more you can tell us about the
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content of the that you said about the mine he remembers. >> they were general topics of concern, and i don't want to go into somely we're. >> complaints about homele homelessness,ry re". something that will tell people noorl. we know there are three stations that the video wasn't working, was stl wll --
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[ inaudible question ] >> so patrol officers, so officers who work topside, if you will, at the precinct, when they go down to the station, they have to shift frequencies. if they didn't switch the radio over to the url sequence. >> how familiar officers were assigned to the station, and if any officers polluted the station at all. we zb generally re. patrol officers from sdheempltly mp
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mplly -- >> we know mr. james has addresses in wisconsin and philadelphia, as far as new york, it's still under investigation, but he's just a person of interest right now in this case. >> do you know when he entered the station, and is he on video anywhere after the fact? >> we know the shooter entered the station on king's highway. so we're asking for anybody who knows from king's highway to 35th street, anybody who sees him with any information, please call crimestoppers. >> when was james last seen? is he on video at all? >> we literally have hundreds of detectives out in the field right now poring through video at train stations, the egresses, the recovery sites on the vehicle. we hope to have clearer pictures of who we believe has issued.
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[ inaudible question ] >> well, that's -- as far as pulling the trigger, that's still under investigation as far as the firearm is concerned. we know it's not part of a multi sale. we know it's not stolen. we're looking to track back at the point of sale and move forward on that gun. >> your physical description of james doesn't match the description you put out today. >> again, as i said, there was two smoke grenades thrown. we have various descriptions of height. i gave the description out of the man in the vest. we're looking at all possible leads. >> i think if you look at our social media, you'll see two photos of the person of interest
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posted. thank you very much. >> thank you. we've just been listening to the latest update on the nypd on the brooklyn subway shooting this morning. shimon prokupecz with me. he's been listening in as well. shimon, a lot of information we just got here. >> reporter: a lot of information, and you can see in the hours since this happened why the nypd and the fbi have been working backward to figure stuff out, and they have. we know what subway stop he got on to get to this location here, it's about eight stops. interestingly enough, and i think tand i think this is an important point to make, they're being very cautious in saying he's a person of interest. they're not saying they believe he's directly involved in this shooting, but they are calling him a person of interest, and that could be for many, many
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reasons why they're doing that. what they say is that they found those three extended magazines and that the suspect here, the shooter, fired 33 times. think about that, kate. 33 times in this subway car, about 50 or so people in there, jam-packed, doors closed, smoke grenades. he set off two smoke grenades, they say. the sheer panic and fear and how horrific this must have been for these passengers inside this car. the point that he chose to do this, which is even more sinister and more evil, when you think about it, he chose tho do this at a time when the doors were closed as the subway car was rolling into the station. some other information they revealed, they found two other smoke grenades that weren't
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detonated. they found gasoline. there is now a $250,000 reward seeking this individual. they said he ordered this u-haul in philadelphia. he was then found in the king's highway. they're hoping by releasing his name and photos that the public will see him and perhaps they can get some information. but certainly these details about what they found and the desperate -- the gucn warning, o difficult to hear these details, kate. >> a hatchet found as well. a lot of it -- what the commissioner said off the top, we can now understand why she said it, which is, it's truly fortunate this was not significantly worse than it already is.
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s shimon is there. he was part of the search team who tracked down the olympic park bomber. jewel yet kyim, social secretary for the department of homeland security. tim, let me start with you. let's start with the person of interest. nypd could not have been more careful to make sure to say right now they would like to speak with him because he is connected to the u-haul. he is the name on the rental for the u-haul. they are not calling him a suspect, they are not kafrlgt. >> well, they said they have a couple i am jz recall, and those images may not maechd tchld.
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>> the fact that he rented that vehicle. the vehicle was left in the proximity of either him entering the subway station or where he was planning to leave, so that's circumstantial efvidence, but it's certainly very damning circumstantial efvidence. so unless this guy had an alibi where he lent him the keys, it's unlikely he wasn't attached somehow to this horrific event. >> julie, firing at least 33 times in such a small spals packed with people, it's a horrifying image to think of. >> right. there is a tremendous amount of luck in what unfolded today, whether the gun got locked and he was unable to continue. the two takeaways for me are the sheer amount of weaponry, not
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just guns, that were in the suspect's possession in terms of the smoke bomb, the grenade or some sort of explosive material, a hatchet, gasoline, it's like a litany of things that will kill a lot of people. so you have to assume that he wanted to do more. the second is just to explain to people, that pressure was a little bit complicated. the reason why the nypd is not saying they're viewing him as a suspect, even though it may seem obvious, to call him a suspect, there is no benefit to him now. if there's someone else out there who actually committed the crimes, they just made it very. that's why they're talking about two separate individuals, the
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penn of it. but there's no benefit to calling heim a suspect yet. they seemed like they were trying really hard not to call him a suspect as they are leaning toward a prosecution. >> julie, the sheer amount of weaponry that was brought onto that subway car , and that was about eight stops before the shooter actually played out. three extended magazines, four smoke grenades, this hatchet, a bag of fireworks, the gasoline. i'm wondering, should anybody be able to get into a subway with what he was able to get on the
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subway with? what does this say about the vulnerability of such a target? >> the new york city subway system, as well as it can be protected about law enforcement appro approximate, it's still a very soft target. if you're doing any kind of violent crime, you want something to do the more amount of damage. any sporting event, et cetera, is always going to be someone who wants the terrorist system. this started in 2009. there was an actual device detonated in 2017. and now you have this one as well, a mass shooting with
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pyrotechnics, smoke-emanating devices, and this individual, fafrl, for free that, that he had on him at the time. >> thanks. i want to go where the suspect's u-haul was found. keys left at the scene is what took them quickly there. what are you finding? >> the police work that's been going on since early this morning, what it does is it basically shows us how investigators got here, that drushl key might be on this moncht this is as close as we can take you right now because it's still very much an active scene as we just heard from
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authorities does the outpouring of supply. it. that van need to find out a little more what happened this afternoon. investigators are actually going door to door in some of the surrounding businesses and speaking to business owners, perhaps trying to see if they can get maybe some surveillance video that will paint a clear picture of what happened earlier today and have at least a suspect of interest in that video. this is what's happening in south brooklyn, and just to give you perspective, we're about four miles southeast of where the original incident happened this morning, dkate. >> thank you so much for that update. let me bring back in tim and peter. tim, they referenced how big the job was still, and going through all the videos they have through the cctv. and nerl on cnn, the kmamplt
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what kind of hercule av n effort is it taking right now to comb through all of that? >> it's quite a u rv just a few minutes of video at each of these locations. and vet nt there are a host of security devices s. as far as this person's ingress or egress route, so there's a host of information we don't even know they'll find yet that hopefully they will. that process is very time-consuming and very manpower huf consuming right now. >> i was just looking at my
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notes, peter, and they also said during the press conference that kind of with the fireworks they found a fuse amongst it. i know that were you were the lead bomb tech for the fbi in new york city. what do you think they talked about? zpz. you could height the. just a regular match or lirlt. these are consumer grafrlt, it's going to cause distraction, it's going to scare people, and i think that's bwhat that individual was trying to do there. >> especially in a closed space. what do you say, julia? >> i want to say the transit
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being able to beat ukraine. we'll let the lawyers decide whether or not it qualifies, but it sure seems that way to me. >> up until now, biden has stopped short of saying just that. he stopped short of using the word genocide. this comes always the u.s. says is taking verified reports that putin has used weapons in ukraine. >> i think i pointed to the possibility that these kinds of weapons would be used, and it's something that we're very, very focused on. >> the use of chemical weapons could completely change the trajectory of this war, a war which the russian president made clear today he has no intention of stopping. at a news conference, putin said peace talks with ukraine have reached, quote, a dead end. fred pleitgen is live for us in ukraine at this time.
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what's new on the ground at this time? >> reporter: volodymyr zelenskyy praised the president, calling them true words of a true leader. i was able to speak to the general prosecutor of ukraine, of this country, and we spoke at a mass grave site just outside kyiv where the ukrainians have launched a mass investigation in possible war crimes by the russians and crimes against humanity as well. here's what we saw. even as russian troops mass in eastern ukraine for what the u.s. believes will be a huge offensive, authorities in kyiv continue digging up bodies. painstaking work that goes hand in hand investigating russia's attack on kyiv and various crimes of preston's various groups. she spoke to me at the edge of a
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ma mass grave in bucha. >> of course, we understand that ukrainians want fast justice. that's why we do everything to document all evidence, all effects of war crimes that we have here in ukraine. >> french forensic veflt orz are now also on the scene, not because ukraine lacks expertise, but because kyiv wants to be as transparent as possible in the face of russian efforts. >> we want to do a drop absolutely open, we stand in front of humanitarian law. it's very high standards. that's why around here we have our internationally. they can see every situation here, real graves.
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>>. >> russian troops around kyiv and other areas they had occupied in ukraine, authorities have discovered scores of dead bodies. today another six found in just one basement outside kyiv. the prosecutor tells me they are collecting evidence in thousands of cases. >> now we started more than 6,000 cases. it's war crimes, crimes against humanity, aggression crimes, and we started on the first day, so we started a case about genocide. >> reporter: all of this as russia claims its forces that have invaded ukraine have not harmed any civilians. on a visit to a space port with aleksandr poroshenko, he said he was fighting against, quote, special operation. the goals are absolutely clear
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and they are noble, he said. i said it at the beginning and want to draw your attention to that. >> there are some in the u.s. at the top level who have spoken about a possible war crimes trial against vladamir putin. is that something you think is possible and you're working toward to provide evidence for? >> i think everyone understands who is responsible for this role. this is why we do everything to fix -- to document evidence, but we are here in ukraine and actually understand who is responsible for all of this. >> reporter: the investigate or's work is complicated by the fact wart is sthe war is still and they can't reach the devastated area of mariupol where the president says tens of thousands have been killed. but she says no matter how long it takes, she will press on. >> it's truly unfortunate. because if we will be successful as prosecutors, i am sure that
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we can stop such >> and kate, i was standing there, of course, at the edge of that mass grave in bucha with the prosecutor general and also we have been in bucha over the past couple days. we have seen bodies in the streets, bodies that have been found in basements. people found with hands tied behind their backs, yet vladimir putin that we saw in that report, said he believed everything that's being shown out of bucha is, quote, fake. kate. >> ridiculous propaganda. still. >> fred, thank you. >> "outfront" now, lesia, a member of ukraine's parliament. investigators have not been able to reach some areas of mariupol, as we're hearing. you tweeted a chemical attack happened there. u.s. officials say they have not been able to confirm the use of chemical weapons there. why are you convinced it was a chemical attack?
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>> we have evidence coming in from some of the regiments, some of the battalions which are stationed there, that the ukrainian soldiers have come down with symptoms which are attributable to chemical attacks. it is not possible for me at least to say which chemicals are in question, but i know that already there has been a lot of action around searching for certain types of antidotes, but again, all linked to chemical attacks. it's a bit difficult when you have all of this evidence piling up and when you put two and two together, it gives you the outcome of a chemical attack. and then on the other side, you have the sources, the military sources, the intelligence sources saying that, oh, no, we're not quite sure yet. >> we know fierce fighting is also continuing in mariupol. the military governor of the
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donetsk region told cnn as many as 22,000 people have died in that city. yet the u.s. department says mariupol remains contested. do you believe ukraine can still hold on to that key city? >> we are going to do everything in our power to hold mariupol. and same goes for every city across ukraine. we are fighting for the very fact of the existence of ukraine and for the livelihood of the ukrainian people as a nation of ukrainians. this is a lot of motivation already to keep us going. and for us to be pushing back on russia's aggression, whatever form it takes, and wherever it happens. >> there have been many reports of sexual violence during this war as well. "the new york times" is documenting some of this in a new piece. the times spoke with ukraine's top official on human rights and it really struck me what she said. she said in one instance, just one example, a group of women and girls were held by russian
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troops in a basement for 25 days. nine of them are now pregnant. have you heard similar stories? what is your reaction to that? >> absolutely. unfortunately, the stories we are hearing, they're not getting any better. we uncover more and more atrocious and horrific facts. again, this is evidence that we're dealing with an army of savages, of pure savages. who stop at nothing, who have zero value for human life, human dignity, who don't care who they attack and who actually take the pleasure of attacking women, children, and the actions of the russian army, they are sadistic in nature. they want to cause a severe suffering as they can to the civilian population, and they boast about it. they boast about it to their mothers, to their wives. just today, the security service
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of ukraine published an intercepted conversation between a russian soldier and his wife. and his wife back in russia was telling the russian soldier that, you know, you go ahead and you rape as many ukrainian women as you can. just don't tell me about it, but just do it. and just make sure that you're using contraception. can you just believe that? how mad and how perverted and disgusting that is and how much hate the russians have for ukrainians and how much will there is there to make sure that our nation, our ukrainian nation, is humiliated and is destroyed. >> wow. i mean, cnn has not received those reports of that intercepted conversation, but if true, it is -- it leaves you speechless. some of the atrocities that we're seeing playing out in some
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of these reports of sexual violence happening to women and girls. lesia, thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you. >> also tonight, a top putin critic suddenly arrestedmoscow. a lawyer for the man who previously survived two suspected poisonings says that he was charged with disobeying a police order. but he has been a vocal critic of putin's for years and very critical of the invasion of ukraine. his arrest came also just hours after he told cnn plus putin's government was, quote, a regime of murderers and he predicted putin's reign would end over the war. "outfront" now is vladimir's wife. thank you for being here this evening. i know you were able to speak with him once briefly after he was detained. what did he tell you? >> well, vladimir was like himself. he was energetic and he was in good spirits. and he asked me to say hi to
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everyone. and he told me that everything would be fine because i know that he will continue fighting for as long as it takes. he will never stop. he will not be intimidated. and i fully support him, and i admire and respect my husband deeply for his courage and his commitment to his cause. >> he was arrested, as i just mentioned, just hours after an interview with him aired on cmn plus. he was speaking out against putin and his invasion of ukraine. why do you think he was arrested now? >> well, because of what you just said. he has been an outspoken critic of the putin regime since putin came to power. he has been advocating fiercely advocating for personal sanctions against murderers in the putin regime since 2010. and since the beginning of this war, he has been as loud and
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clear about putin's atrocities in ukraine, and about he called a war a war, which is considered a crime nowadays in russia. but he called a spade a spade, so there's nothing surprising about that. and he has always been as outspoken as he could about the putin regime. this is why he's been targeted so many times already. >> he was on this show last month from russia. i want to play for everyone a little bit of what he said. >> there are absolutely no limits to what vladimir putin can do. the tragedy is that this is all predictable, and in fact, so many people for years and years warned the world about just who vladimir putin is. and what this will lead to. >> you talk about his strength and resilience in speaking up for so long against putin. but even after surviving two suspected poisoning attempts, he still is speaking out like this
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against putin, from inside russia. why? >> because this is his home. this is his country. he's a russian citizen, and he's a true patriot. and because of those 15,000 people who went out in the streets to protest against the war and were detained and arrested since the beginning of the war. there are russians in russia leaving behind an iron curtain that putin installed in less than a month. and they continue protesting against the war. coming out in the streets by one, holding, you know, the slogans. no war, stop the war. and they get detained. they get thrown in prison. and vladimir believes he has to be where russians fight against the bloody putin regime. >> and look, he has been under threat for quite some time.
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you have said previously that you're terrified every time he would leave the house for one of his trips. are you more scared now, though, having him in prison in the middle of putin's war? >> well, you see, fear should not stop us from doing the right thing, right? so even though i am terrified for him, of course, we have three young children and i want them to see their dad. i want them to be able to hug him every night, and of course, when i know when he goes on one of his trips, i know that he's putting himself at risk yet again and again. but i know that he's fighting the right cause. and we understand both he and i that in today's russia, in order to change things, you have to fight against fear. you have to do what you need to do despite your fears. just push forward. there is no other way. and all putin's critics risk --
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they run the same risks. >> thank you so much for coming on and speaking out for your husband, when in this moment he cannot do it for himself. i really appreciate it. >> thank you very much for having me here. >> thank you. >> and thank you all so much for being with us tonight. i'm kate bolduan. "ac 360" starts now. >> police in new york tonight now have a person of interest. their words, in the subway mass shooting this morning that might have easily become a massacre. 33 shots fired, 10 people wounded, amazingly and thankfully, no one killed. john berman here in for anderson, and take a look at this. these are the photos the nypd released of frank james, the person of interest. he's 62 years old, he has addresses in wisconsin and philadelphia, and we should stress, police are not calling him a suspect. they say he rented a