tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN April 12, 2022 5:00pm-6:00pm PDT
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they run the same risks. >> thank you so much for coming on and speaking out for your husband, when in this moment he cannot do it for himself. i really appreciate it. >> thank you very much for having me here. >> thank you. >> and thank you all so much for being with us tonight. i'm kate bolduan. "ac 360" starts now. >> police in new york tonight now have a person of interest. their words, in the subway mass shooting this morning that might have easily become a massacre. 33 shots fired, 10 people wounded, amazingly and thankfully, no one killed. john berman here in for anderson, and take a look at this. these are the photos the nypd released of frank james, the person of interest. he's 62 years old, he has addresses in wisconsin and philadelphia, and we should stress, police are not calling him a suspect. they say he rented a van, found
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a short drive to the shooting scene in brooklyn. if you know him, you're asked to call 1-800-577-tips. 1-800-577-tips. >> this all began in the middle of rush hour this morning. the smoke from two smoke canisters police say the gunman set off before opening fire with a 9 millimeter pistol. in a moment, we'll speak to one of the ten gunshot victims, a man who said he was sitting next to the gunman moments before the firing began. first, the latest from the scene in the sunset park section of brooklyn. a flurry of late developments today. give us the latest. >> yeah, and the biggest one is what you just said. they're still looking for this person, as you mentioned, person of interest, according to law enforcement officials. that they just want to talk to, and they're still trying to piece together how that person is connected to what happened here in the subway. but there's been a lot of evidence that has been recovered
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that law enforcement is really working with at this hour. we know they recovered the gun, as you said, there were fireworks. there was magazines, there were smoke canisters, so much was recovered that could have made this so much worse than it really was, not to minimize at all what happened because quite frankly, it was terror on the subway system this morning. it happened during the morning rush. aboard a busy new york city subway train in brooklyn. shots rang out and smoke filled the car. witnesses say -- >> there were people screaming for medical assistance. it was just a scary moment. >> law enforcement arrived within minutes. >> an individual on that train donned what appeared to be a gas mask. he then took a canister out of his bag and opened it. the train at that time began to fill with smoke. he opened fire striking multiple people on the subway and in the platform. >> ten shots, five of them in
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critical but stable condition with many more people injured. according to the fdny. as photos from scene show blood on the floor of the subway station. >> we were stuck in the train right about to get to reach the stop. and then thank goodness the train moved within a minute. i don't know what would happen if we were stuck there for longer. >> a gun, multiple high capacity magazines, fireworks and gun powder have been recovered in the station, law enforcement sources say, and they believe the gun jammed during the shooting. tonight, a motive for the attack remains unknown with a suspect still on the loose. >> he is being reported as a male black, approximately 5'5" tall with a heavy build. he was wearing a green construction type vest and a hooded sweatshirt the color is gray. >> late today, investigators located a uhaul cargo van with arizona license plates in connection with the shooting. new york mayor eric adams who is in isolation recovering from covid-19 told cnn it's too early
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to dismiss the subway attack as not terror related. >> this is terror of someone attempting to terrorize our system. they brought in what appears to be some form of smoke device. they discharged a weapon, and so i don't want to be premature in identifying that this was or was not. i think at this time, the investigators are going to do their due diligence to properly identify what happened here. >> new york governor kathy hochul on scene today called for an end to new york's recent wave of violent crime. >> we say no more. no more mass shootings. no more disrupting lives. no more creating heartbreak for people. just trying to live their lives as normal new yorkers. it has to end and it ends now. >> and we're also learning more about the surveillance cameras at the subway stop. what can you tell us about that? >> yeah, we are learning that the cameras that are actually in the subway stop were not
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operating. but of course, you have to know that there are thousands of cameras all around the city, all around this area. we have seen investigators going door to door getting surveillance cameras footage, watching it inside delis. certainly they're all piecing that together, but then of course, a big thing here is all the eyes of new yorkers. since they put up that picture of a person of interest, frank james, we're hearing differing in height. i know you heard 5'5", but he might be taller. they want you to call it in to the crimestoppers hot line and they're offering a hefty award for information, $50,000. they want to talk to this person, see if they're connected, what motivations might be, and at least just get this person to talk to investigators. >> again, if anyone out there has seen anything, please do call. brynn gingras, thank you for your reporting on the scene all day. >> joining us now from his hospital bed is a man who says he was sitting next to the shooters and was wounded in the leg. first of all, how are you doing
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tonight? >> extremely in pain. the worst pain i ever felt in my life. >> i can only imagine. and i am so sorry that you went through this. can you walk us through what happened? i understand you say you actually sat next to the shooter on the train before everything happened. >> yes. i was on 59th street on the r train transfer to the n train on 59th. so it was the first car. last seats, and i'm not really paying attention to that, so i walk in and sit down. and the guy next to me, i got a glimpse of his face. all you see is a smoke, black smoke bomb going off, and then people bum rushing to the back. this pregnant woman was in front of me. i didn't know there were shot at first. i thought it was a black smoke bomb. she said i'm pregnant with a baby. i hugged her, then the bum rush
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continued. i got pushed and that's when i got shot in the back of my knee. >> did you see the shooter open or drop the smoke canister? >> i didn't. once i entered the train, i wasn't paying attention to anybody. i wasn't looking to anybody. i was on my phone with my headphones on, just sitting down. and all you see was black smoke. i turned to the right, the guy with a mask on, you know, with an mta vest. >> and again, i'll just ask this again. the nypd just tweeted out an image of a man they say is a person of interest in the shooting. they're not calling him a suspect now. i know you have seen the picture. does it look like the man you sat next to? >> i'm not really sure, man. i wasn't able to see his face. he had a mask on. >> i understand that. i think often we go on the subway, we're just minding our own business, doing our own thing. we don't take a good look around. in your case, you were doing that, and all of a sudden there was smoke everywhere.
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there were reports the suspect was mumbling to himself before he started shooting. did you notice that or anything else about the behavior beforehand? >> you know, i just had my headphones in my ears and my phone in my hand, minding my own business, my head down. sitting down, but this makes me not want to ride a train ever in my life. >> i'm so sorry. it's going to be something i know that will stick with you. >> that's me in the red hoodie. >> that's you in the red hoodie coming out? >> yeah. it was in the beginning. right there. >> do you remember how long it took -- do you remember how long it took for the shooter to begin shooting. >> normally, the train from 59th street to 36th street takes two minutes, but the train kept stopping in between tunnels. in between 45th street. it took forever. you know, and it's an old style train. you can't switch cars. so we had to -- somebody broke the first door down, and the second door was really hard to break. i was focused on the pregnant
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woman, and that's when i got struck in the leg, man. i was just on my way to work. >> how long was there smoke before he started shooting, do you know? >> it was -- the smoke went off first, and then he started shooting. as you see in the video, the smoke is still there and the doors are open. >> and what was it like, you were just talking about it, an old style subway car. >> i'm still shocked and shaking. i don't even know how i'm holding my phone. i don't think i can ever ride a train again, to be honest. >> and you were just worried about that woman. tell me about the woman you were worried about trying to help. >> the woman, so i was sitting closely next to the guy out of everybody. and the woman was sitting next to me, like let's say 12 feet to the left. and i seen she had a belly. when she got up, she seen the smoke, the smoke went off first and then the gunshots went off. she said oh, my god, i'm
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pregnant. that's when i gave her a hug. >> and do you know, did she make it out of the car, is she okay? >> i can't see her in the video. i did see her in the video make it out, yes. >> that's a relief, and i'm sure your help was so crucial in helping her. how long was the shooting happening before the subway doors opened, before people could get out? >> about three to four minutes. the shooting happened about a minute, like about ten shots went off. i think the gun jammed. i think he had an extended clip or something, because i never heard that many shots come off a handgun. >> so 33 shots were fired. does that sound like what you heard? >> wow, yeah. i mean, it did sound like a handgun, but he probably had extended clips or another firearm. >> can you describe what it did
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sound like? >> sounded like the loudest thing i ever heard in my life. >> and did you see him or were you aware of him changing the magazine, the cartridge? >> no. all i see was just black smoke. and that's when i got hit. i didn't think, you know, it was serious until i got off the train. i pulled my pants down, and the size of a quarter just gushing out blood. i lost so much blood. >> and it was your knee. where did the bullet hit? >> so if you see right here. i'll demonstrate on my other leg right here, so the bullet went through the back of the knee, and it came out over here. it's the size of a quarter over here. >> and did you know, when did you know you had been hit like that? >> when i got off the train, you know, i looked at all the blood and i was like, this ain't right. >> could you stand up?
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>> i cannot. >> what have they told you about how long it's going to take until you recover? >> they're not sure right now. they're just waiting on me, my knee to heal. i'm not really sure. i'm spending the night here today. i'm not sure when they'll discharge me. >> how did you manage to get out with your knee hit like that, bleeding as you were saying? you know, how did you get from inside the subway to outside the subway? and once you were out, what happened? >> you know, i was just so shocked that the pain didn't hit me until after. >> and then, did someone come and help you? >> sorry, i got a whole bunch of people calling me. >> i understand. people are probably seeing, they're so thrilled that they can tell you're okay now. they probably just want to check in with you. when you were on the subway platform, once you realized you
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had been hit, how did you get to the hospital? who took care of you? pardon me. >> can you hear me? >> yes. >> i was asking, i'm trying to figure out how you got the help you needed once you were hit? >> i was -- i managed to go up the stairs myself. i went to the first flight of stairs myself. every cop that passed by me just ignored me. they were just i think maybe focused on the shooter, and then i told the guy at whatever you call him, i was bleeding. he didn't know what was going on, the guy at the booth. eventually after five, ten minutes two firefighters helped me on their shoulders. >> i can't believe you made it up the stairs on your own. >> i was so shocked. i didn't even think it was a bullet. i was so shocked. i just wanted to get out of there after hearing all those
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shots. >> and finally, you had field me you think you're not going to want to ride the subway ever again. >> right. >> just talk to me about your feelings right now. >> i think i might, you know, i might be scared of riding the subway again because you just never know. >> again, so sorry you went through this. i'm glad. are there people with you there now, loved ones taking care of you? >> yeah, i got a nurse in and out, yeah. >> good. let us know if there's anything we can do. i'm so sorry you went through this. i'm glad that you're recovering. you're obviously a strong guy. you walked up those stairs after a bullet went through your knee. so you have some heart, my friend. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> joining us now is the former
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new york police commissioner ray kelly, also cnn senior law enforcement analyst and former fbi deputy director andy mccabe. commissioner, obviously, that was a heck of an account right there. really terrifying account from a man who just went through hell and is so lucky to be alive, like so many of those people. what's your reaction to that? >> you're absolutely right. i was very impressed with this young man. obviously, he's still in pain. he had his senses to get out of the train, get up the stairs. it must have taken quite a good amount of adrenaline flow to get him up there, but yeah. so many people who were lucky today. this individual, you saw he fired 33 shots. he had additional ammunition. two clips were extended. they could have had extra ammunition in them. so it was in many ways a lucky day, but new york city subways
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have been plagued with crime now for the last, oh, year, year and a half, and people are not going to be comforted by this type of event. subway travel is now about half of what it was before the pandemic. and this is not going to help get people back on the train. >> andy, the past hour, we have a name. we got a name. frank james. and a photo of the man that the nypd is describing as a person of interest in this investigation. what do you think that investigators are focusing on as they're trying to locate him inhow are they trying to find him? >> well, john, there's a massive effort going on right now to locate frarnk james. any address they have that is remotely associated with this guy is probably under surveillance or about to be by fbi agents and local police and all kinds of different jurisdictions. they are coursing through
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mr. james' presence online, social media, youtube, i know there's been some discussion about videos he may have posted. they'll be looking at the metadata on all of those postings to see if they can associate them with additional addresses. they'll try to locate and identify his associated, family members, if he has work or employment record, they'll go to those places. he is a person of interest at this point, but let's face it. he has a lot of explaining to do. he rented this uhaul van in philadelphia, and the key from that van ends up on the subway car. how he could be connected with that van and not have been inside that car when the shooting took place is going to be a hard story for him to tell. but at this point, they just want to get in front of mr. james and understand what his perspective on these events may have been. >> to be clear, the social media postings you mentioned including references we're told in the news conference to homelessness, new york city, and also the
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mayor eric adams and security has been increased as a result for the mayor as a precaution. commissioner kelly, we also heard from law enforcement that they found among other items a handgun, smoke grenades, gasoline, extended magazines, a hatchet. what does tat tell you about the amount of planning that went into this? >> well, he was certainly up to no good. that's quite an array of tools he had there. we don't know what he was going to do. hopefully, you know, we can find this individual and talk to him. right now, he's not charged with anything. so it would probably behoove him to come forward and talk to law enforcement authorities rather than risk a confrontation at this time. i like the fact that the mayor said today that he's going to double the number of police officers in the subway system. i think that has to be done. people, as i say, don't have confidence in the system.
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we need a much larger uniform presence in the system to regain some sense of safety. otherwise, the subways are the lifeblood of new york city. that's how virtually 70% of the people get to work in new york. so if they're not going on the subway, it's going to be a big problem as far as new york rebounding from the pandemic. >> director mccabe, given that the shooter reportedly fired 33 times, 10 people were reported taken to the hospital with gunshot wounds. what does it say to you thus far there have been no fatalities, thankfully, reported from this attack? >> you know, john, that's a hard one to evaluate. i mean, obviously, an incredibly high degree of planning and premeditation goes into this attack. you know that from his very kind of careful way of boarding the train, putting on the mask,
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deploying the smoke grenades, so from that perspective, he looks like a pretty almost a trained kind of very careful operator. on the other hand, he shoots 33 rounds, hits no one, and runs out of the train leaving behind his gun and what seems to be a ton of possibly significant forensic evidence. so that really mitigates against any sort of like high level of training or competence here. so 33 rounds and no lethal shots could just be a lack of training, a lack of familiarization. he may have been disoriented by the smoke and the commotion and everything else. but we'll have to see how that plays out. >> commissioner, director, thank you both so much for helping us understand what we're seeing tonight. next, a late update on the van connected to all this. we'll get a live report from the scene, and later, ukraine. president biden calling russian tactics there genocide for the first time, but whatever word you choose, there's new and
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as police in new york are seeking the man they're now calling a person of interest in today's subway shooting, they're asking for your help. they say his name is frank james. 62 years old, with addresses in wisconsin and philadelphia. and the number to call is 1-800-577-tips. police say he rented the van found just a short drive from the shooting scene and just the last few minutes, there has been activity around that van. cnn's miguel marquez is nearby and joins us. describe the scene where you are. >> this is the graves and bensonhurst area of brooklyn. the van connected to this individual, it was rented just yesterday in philadelphia. you can see off in the dyance, there's now a tow truck next to the van. there's been a massive police effort in this neighborhood throughout the day, this
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afternoon. this is just a few blocks from the kings highway stop on the n train where one could have gotten on and then continued to where the shooting took place. police have been going from door to door, both buildings, residential buildings and businesses, looking at security video. asking for security video, seeing what else they can find there. to try to figure out where this individual is. it felt very much like they were on to something greater at one point this afternoon. they had such a number of police investigators here, the bomb squad was here, fire, police, and ambulance services as well in this area. they were really on the hunt. you can get a sense of just how they swarmed this area and how right now they're looking for this person of interest in this case in other areas like this. john. >> a much bigger operation you describe than just around the
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uhaul van itself. what more are you learning about this uhaul? >> it's been sitting there most of the day. the one person most people we have shown everybody the picture of this individual, talked to a lot of people about the van. one person said he had seen it there all day long. it may have been sitting there for quite some time. they did have bomb squad there. they had other investigators that were looking at the van for much of the afternoon. they left a short time ago. the tow truck is there now that they will probably take it to some evidence yard and they will go through it even in a more refined way. but they are looking at every aspect of that van, trying to figure out if there's any clues there for where he may have gone next. >> you're looking at live pictures, just to be clear, of that van. the people who have been around and about that neighborhood, anyone there say anything about whether they recognized this person of interest? >> we have asked, i have been showing that picture to everybody that i meet here. and some of them twice, and
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they'll tell me that they have seen it twice now. and nobody has seen this person that they know of. some people thought he might have had a place to stay in the neighborhood. i will tell you that police were going to businesses asking for videotape from security cameras, and in some cases, viewing security camera video. so there may be some record of him in this neighborhood in the last 24 hours. if that van was rented yesterday in philly, it's only about a six-hour drive up here from there. he could have been in this neighborhood for quite some time. >> miguel marquez for us in brooklyn on the scene where that van still is. thank you very much. we're joined by former nypd sergeant joseph jackalone. given the police have a name and a photo, a person of interest in addition to the van, the items left aft the scene, a whole lot here. how long would you expect this search for person of interest frank james to go on?
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>> well, this search is going to go on all night for sure and going to go on until they catch him. they have to find him. they have to bring him in. they have to question him. i mean, like they said before, just a person of interest, but that's just a term they use because they worry about legal issues down the road once an arrest has been made in case they get the wrong person. it's just a way of getting around that aspect of it so far. but there's lots of evidence, especially in that van, they'll be doing touch dna, fingerprints. you name it, they'll be taking out all of the forensics they can, hair follicles, whatever they may find in there. they're also by now, they have already been to the uhaul facility, gotten video camera surveillance from that, and they're out talking to every family member they can find, and hopefully they can get a cell phone number for this guy. maybe they're trying to already contact him and have him give himself up. >> with the amount of information they have, with the amount of physical evidence they have, how hard would it be for
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him to hide for much longer? >> well, you're dealing with a huge city here. we have 9 million people. you can hide in plain sight. that's why it's important and why the police commissioner talked about the value of what the community can do in order to help the police find this guy, to be on the lookout. you have 9 million people out there looking for him. that's what's going to help. the issue it comes down to is the police can't be everywhere all the time. and we need the community's help. a lot of times in order to solve these crimes. it's an important aspect. this is also how you build bridges to the community, to show how important they are to police work and how much it's appreciated once they help the police to uncover certain things they need in cases. >> mayor adams, of course, a former police officer himself, has made subway safety a major focus of his administration. he said on cnn earlier today the subway is safe, and he rides the subway often to send the message. but do you think it's safe? and beyond the increasing the numbers of officers patrolling the system, what could be done
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to make the train safer? >> i take the train every weekend in order to get to school, so i have seen a lot of things i haven't seen quite frankly in a long time. i find needles on staircases, lights that don't work anymore, garbage everywhere. it's just not a place that i remember not too short time ago. listen, the subway needs to be ready to be used. we're just coming out of covid. we had a surge in crime. now we're dealing with this incidence. it's like a punch to the gut. you need to have the subway running and it has to be -- the perception has to be it's safe. right now, that perception is not that it's safe, but it also is a reality. we're dealing with a 65 or 70% increase in crime year to date so far in the sobway. every week we have anecdotal evidence about things that just shouldn't be. people getting attacked with hammers and the like. so the issue that comes down to is this subway should have been flooded weeks ago.
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when he came up with a zero tolerance plan, i thought that's what it was going to be, but apparently it hasn't done that. we still see double-digit increases in transit crime since this plan came out. my other recommendation is if he wants to double the amount of cops, do it already, but also he needs to reach out to the governor and have the state police come in, instead of having them sit around on the bridges and tunnels and everything like that, let's get them into the subways and see if we can at least have that omnipresence, have them everywhere, too. this has gotten to a point where people like that gentleman you had earlier, that they just don't want to take the subway anymore, and we don't want to see that happen. >> always great to have you on. thank you so much. >> have a great night. >> we're going to have more on the subway attack later in the broadcast. coming up, the latest in ukraine, including president biden accusing vladimir putin of genocide. also a frightening look at a brutal new tactic russians are using to do catastrophic damage.
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we'll have more on the new york city subway attack in a moment. first, the latest on the war in ukraine. president biden today for the first time called the atrocities committed against ukrainians genocide. he said it once in a speech and a short time ago with reporters he expanded on what he meant. >> mr. pred, have you seen enough evidence to declare genocide in ukraine, sir?
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>> yes. i called it genocide because it becomes clearer and clearer that putin is just trying to wipe out the idea of even being able to be a ukrainian. and the evidence is mounting. it's different than it was last week. the more evidence is coming out of literally the horrible things that the russians have done in ukraine. and we're going to only learn more and more about the devastation. and we'll let the lawyers decide internationally whether or not it qualifies, but it sure seems that way to me. >> afterwards, president zelenskyy of ukraine thanked president biden. these comments come after a fierce day of battle in the south and east, and after vladimir putin said the peace talks had hit, quote, a dead end. they also came after zelenskyy said russians had left behind thousands of mines, something he called a war crime. we're in ukraine's second largest city with more. >> this is the central market
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area in kharkiv, and this is the site of most of last night's strikes. we have come here with emergency service first responders because the russians have come up with a new tactic. to insure that the devastation of their attacks last far beyond first impact. lieutenant colonel is the head of the bomb disposal team. >> translator: the mines explode by themselves and cause damage. these elements can detonate between three and 40 hours later, so we have to detonate them remotely to avoid damage to the civilian population. >> there are unexploded mines all over this area, so they can't get too close. what they do is they wrap plastic explosives around a wire, link it to a detonator. that's then placed next to the unexploded ordinance. they retreat, then they blow it up.
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a brutal new tactic leaving death to lie in wait for unsuspecting civilians. nima elbagir, ccnn, kharkiv. >> joining us is clarissa ward. we saw that mines have been left behind in kharkiv. what did you see when you left kyiv earlier today? >> well, i think we should be clear that mines are being used by both sides, different kinds of mines. the ukrainians, of course, have been using anti-tank mines. that's to try to prevent russian tanks from pushing deep into ukrainian cities. we saw evidence of that driving along today. a field was completely cordoned off. there were signs everywhere saying mines, and we saw an anti-tank mine by the side of a ukrainian checkpoint. it's a different story when you push up north from kyiv to a region where we had spent a
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couple days toward the end of last week. there, there is a very real threat of these anti-personnel mines that russian forces have left behind. those are much more dangerous in a sense because they can be triggered simply by someone walking over them or walking near them. they can, of course, cause a huge amount of damage. they have also left anti-tank mines there. and this is a big part of what is making it so difficult, john, for ukrainian forces to get into all of these areas that have been cut off, essentially, for weeks and weeks on end while they were under russian occupation. some of these roads are still impassable. of course, many of the bridges were also blown up. primarily by ukrainian forces again to stop the russian military from pushing in to city centers. but all of it meaning that even after russian forces have left, there are still a lot of dangers to contend with on the ground in terms of unexploded ordinance, john. >> i spoke to a 15-year-old boy
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who lost his mother to a mine. such a danger. russian troops do appear to be gathering in the donbas region, and putin said today that talks with ukraine hit a, quote, dead end. what is expected to happen in the coming days? >> well, one regional military official here, john, has said they believe this offensive could really start anytime now. tomorrow, in the next few days. they are seeing a steady buildup of heavy russian equipment being pulled towards the front line. now, the one thing this official said that might sort of work in ukraine's favor is that there are heavy rains forecast for the next few days. with those heavy rains, it's more likely that russian tanks in the event that they do start this offensive in earnest would be forced to use the roads as opposed to the fields. if they use the roads, of course, it's much easier for ukrainian forces to defend themselves, using anti-tank
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missiles like the javelins that the u.s. has been providing. in the meantime, though, john, as people here wait for this offensive to begin, i should be clear. there is constant shelling taking place in these front line towns, particularly in the luhansk region, authorities there warning that they are running out of spaces in the morgues, that they don't have electricity. that they have been forced to create new cemeteries because they can't reach the traditional cemeteries where they're basically using backhoes to dig trenches and then put the bodies in there, at least temporarily, so that they can be buried. it's a very serious situation already. and the fear is that things are going to get a lot worse very soon, john. >> clarissa ward in dnipro where the fighting could take place. please stay safe, you and your team. thank you very much. just ahead, we'll talk about putin's next move in russia and the latest high-profile arrest of a dissident who protested the
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chance reported on a case of dissent in russia. a teacher tried to correct the misconception in her clasroom about the war and why it was begun. he was later arrested. it's a familiar pattern. public dissent over the war followed by arrest. today, we're following another case. this time it involves russian politician who has survived two suspected poisonings according to "the washington post." both put him in a coma. he was detained in moscow yesterday, a short time after he appeared for an interview on cnn plus. he pulled no punches in that interview. >> this regime that is in power in our country today, it's not just corrupt, not just kleptocratic, it's a regime of mur murderers. and it's important to say it out loud. i have absolutely no doubt that the putin regime will end over his war in ukraine. it doesn't mean it's going to happen tomorrow. the two main questions are time and price. and by price, i don't mean
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monetary. i mean the price in human lives and blood. but the putin regime will end over this and there will be a democratic russia after putin. >> earlier today, putin made the provably false claim that his goals in ukraine are, quote, noble and he tried for a peaceful resolution. i'm joined by garry kasparov, a russian pro-democracy leader and former world chess champion, also the author of "winter is coming, why vladimir putin and the enemies of the free world must be stopped." garry, was was your reaction when you heard that your friend had been arrested and do you agree that this war will be the end of putin's control over russia? >> we hope so, for this war to be the end of putin's regime and to end putin's crimes both inside and outside of russia. we need ukraine to win the war. only military defeat could put dictator in jeopardy, and that's why i keep repeating, time and
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again, that ukraine needs every resource, every weapon. they need to win this war for ukraine to be whole and free, and then we can hope for russia to be rescued from putin's criminal regime. >> and your feelings when you heard your friend had been arrested? >> we had yet to find out whether this arrest will be the last warning because he now is put in jail for 15 days for violating police orders. or they will lock him for longer, opening criminal case. i hope that it's a last warning and he'll be strongly advised to leave russia and follow this advice and we can join forces continuing our fight against putin's criminal regime and our fight to help ukraine to win the war. >> so putin made this public appearance today, and i want to play part of what he said. listen to this.
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>> translator: and what we're doing, we're helping people. we're saving them from naziism in the first place and on the other hand, protecting russia. taking measures to protect russia's security, and it's obvious we had no choice. it was the right thing to do, and i have no doubt the objectives will be achieved. >> how does it make you feel when you see civilians including children being killed every day and hear putin say he's helping people? >> look, lying was always a main thread of putin's character. he's been lying for more than two decades. anyone who is surprised at putin's war crimes in ukraine must not be aware about his long record beginning with the second chechen war more than two decades ago. vladimir putin has been a war criminal from the start. so right now, he keeps repeating the same lies, and i couldn't agree more with president biden who eventually now called russian war crimes in ukraine genocide. now we have to see how the biden
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administration will back this statement. >> putin said today also you heard him that peace talks have reached a, quote, dead end. we mentioned that he also called russia's military goals noble. look, if that's his mindset, what will it take him to stop? >> i think here i have to agree with putin. it's a dead end because putin was, it, and will be to destroy ukraine. he does not recognize ukrainian statehood, so ukraine will never accept any limitations of sovereignty, so that's why it's a simple outcome. it's win or lose. so we must fight and we must win. so and that's why anyone who is trying to find common ground is just ignoring the simple fact. meeting evil halfway is still a victory for evil. >> i mentioned the teacher in russia who was arrested for telling her students the truth about the war. she was turned in by her
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students. they recorded the conversation and handed it over to authorities. what does it tell you that students are turning in their teachers? >> look, i was born and raised in the soviet union, so i'm not surprised. it's very unfortunate, but that's almost genetic. so we have generation of people who lived in a country controlled by kgb, and they were afraid of the secret police, and turning people out to authorities, even their relatives or their teachers, those are the dark pages in our history. unfortunately, we're seeing the repetition of that, so that's why we have to make sure this war is won by ukraine and putin's regime is uprooted, not just putin himself or his cronies, we have to do a lot of cleansing in russia to make sure all people involved in any sort of crimes will be denied access to state jobs, so basically the same process as germany had in
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1945. again, the country needs denaziification. but it's not ukraine, it's russia. >> i appreciate you being with us tonight. i hope you do get a chance to work with you friend and he is released from prison in russia. thank you. >> thank you. >> up next, an update on the new york subway shooting and perspective on the recent increase in violent crime. it grows two times faster than seed alone for full, green grgrass. everything else just seems... slow. it's lawn season. let's get to the yard. before i got aura, twenty-four of my online accounts were hacked! he uses the same password for everything. i didn't want deal with it. but aura digital security just dealt with it. what were we wried about again? shoppi on public wifi is sketchy. but with aura digital security, my devices are protected in like 3 minutes. it's time to protect your life online with aura's all-in-one digital security. try for free today at aura.com
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earlier tonight, you heard from a man who was wounded in this morning's subway mass shooting in brooklyn. he said he wasn't sure if he would ever take the subway again. until recently, new yorkers gave more thought to crime above ground than underground. that said, violent crime, though exceedingly low compared to its peak in the '80s and '90s is on the rise, including in the subway system. more now from randi kaye. >> january this year, a mentally ill man shoved a woman onto the subway train track in times square. police say 40-year-old michelle gou was pushed onto the tracks
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of an oncoming train around 9:foirt a.m. investigators say the attack was unprovoked. police identified a 61-year-old man as the attacker. and charged him with second degree murder. he later turned himself in. >> our battle is the subway system is fighting the perception of fear that cases like this could happen. >> stay away from the subway platform's edge, said new york city's subway chief after yet another january incident. in that case, police say a 62-year-old man suffered injuries after being pushed onto the subway tracks at the fulton street subway station in lower manhattan. he was treat at a hospital for a cut to his leg. >> i don't want to tell people that they should stand on subway platforms and feel like they're, you know, they're in threat of their lives, but everybody should stand away from the edge of the platform. >> look at this terrifying assault from february. watch as the suspect repeatedly hits a 57-year-old woman in the head with a hammer as she makes
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her way down the stairs to a queens subway station. police say she was struck as many as 13 times. and left with a fractured skull in critical condition. investigators say the suspect stole her purse. also in february, soon after new york city's mayor unveiled a new safety initiative to combat subway crime, there were at least six stabbings or slashings in the subway. police say those included two stabbings at queens subway stations. a man stabbed in the back on a train in manhattan and another assault involving a hatchet. and as terrifying as those attacks are, experts say a rider's chance of attack is close to 1 in a million. and that transit is no less safe than the rest of the city. >> people are afraid to walk in the streets. crime is happening. the subway is a disaster. >> surveillance cameras capture this violent attack last month in the middle of the afternoon. on the a train at west 190th street. police say the suspect spit at the 22-year-old victim before
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attacking him and ripping his hair out. all the while making anti-gay remarks. some incidents are classified as hate crimes. just last month, the manhattan d.a. filed two hate crime charges against an individual for allegedly assaulting a 29-year-old asian man at a new york city subway station. the suspect allegedly possessed multiple weapons including a dagger, knife, machete, and razor, according to the criminal complaint. the suspect allegedly attacked the victim with a hammer, causing injuries to his head. >> we're going to make sure new york feels safe in our subway system. and they don't feel that way now. >> randi kaye, cnn. >> our thanks to randi. we'll be right back. ...but you c can find her, and millions of other talented pros, right now on upwork.k.
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the investigation of the new york city subway shooting. they believe he rented the uhaul van whose keys were found at the scene. police are investigating whether he has any connection to the shooting and have not named him as a suspect. anyone with information on this person of interest or the shooting is encouraged to call 1-800-577-tips. the uhaul van was found blocks from the subway station. the van was rented monday afternoon in philadelphia, and frank james who has used a wisconsin license with a milwaukee address. stay with cnn for the latest on the investigation. the news continues, so let's hand it over to jake tapper in lviv in western ukraine and cnn tonight. >> john, thanks so much. i'm jake tapper. this is cnn tonight, and i'm live from lviv, ukraine, with breaking new developments on the putin invasion of ukraine and also that mass shooting back at home in a new york city subway. the gunman who opened fire inside a crowded subway car an
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