watching. i will be back tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. eastern for cnn tonight again live from ukraine. before then, see you tomorrow afternoon on "the lead" which begins at 4:00 p.m. eastern. "don lemon tonight" starts right now. hey, don. >> having said that, i feel guilty about keeping you but i want to know this. the veterans you spoke with who are going to ukraine, are they going against the wishes of the biden administration? >> i asked a veteran about that. not the one in the piece, but a different one. the answer was one of the great things about living in a free country is that he is no longer in service, he can do whatever he wants to do as long as he is abiding by the law. so he trained ukrainians. when he came back the people at

u.s. customs took a look his passport, said, okay, you were in ukraine. are you bringing any weapons back? he said no. he said, okay, come on in, and that was the end of that. >> there you go. jake tapper, rest up. see you tomorrow night. thank you, sir. >> thanks, don. this is "don lemon tonight." two big breaking news stories here at home and overseas. manhunt first. police urgently searching for a subway passenger in brooklyn who they say put on a gas mask, deployed a gas canister and began shooting at rush hour commuters as a train pulled into the station earlier today, firing 33 times. wounding at least ten people. thankfully, though, no one was killed. police believe he only stopped firing because the gun jammed. now, the nypd tonight saying that they are looking for a man, look on your screen now, calling a person of interest. they are not calling him a suspect. frank james, that is the person of interest they are looking for. they say that he rented a u-haul

van, connected to the shooting. anyone with information on his whereabouts call this number. 800-577-tips. the number and the man that was just up on the screen, if you have any information, call that number. and there are chilling new details about what was left behind at the scene of that subway shooting. a glock handgun. three extended magazines. two detonated smoke genrenades. a hatchet and gasoline. quite an arsenal. also left the scene, key to the u-haul van, a key they found right there. the chaos of the attack captured in passengers dramatic cellphone videos taken as they suddenly realized their morning commute had turned violent. >> during all this time i'm thinking it's firecrackers and it's not until i raise my head i see that there is a lot of blood

on the floor then i realize firecrackers can't do this much damage. it has to be somebody with a gun. >> passenger you heard we will talk to in just a moment. another taking a video of the train pulling into the station and the incredible moment a terrified passenger's running for their lives as smoke pours out of the car. >> can you imagine that? so many people take mass transit all over the country. imagine that. some passengers not realizing at first they had been shot. didn't even realize they had been shot. a photo journalist on scene taking this picture and putting his ka down to help people before first responders arrived. then another big story. vladimir putin continues his

murderous assault, shelling a front line town in ukraine's east, leaving charred wreckage where everyday people's homes and cars used to be. that as president biden for the first time calls putin's invasion jooid genocide. >> yes, i called it genocide because it's become clearer and clearer that putin is trying to wipe out the idea of even being to be ukrainian. >> president volodymr zelenskyy thanking biden calling what he said true words of a true leader. straight now to our breaking news out of the united states, live in brooklyn tonight. shimon, hello to you. this manhunt still underway. investigators have identified a person of interest. frank james. but authorities are being very careful about whether he is the suspected shooter. what do you know? >> reporter: yeah, so they are not calling him a suspect. they are using for whatever reason the words the person of interest.

but they made the effort tonight to identify him to show photos of him. they really knew his name pretty early on after the shooting occurred, just hours after, after they found the u-haul key and we're also told there was a credit card left behind, which helped identify the person as well. now officials are trying to find this person. we believe that this person left the cellphone behind as well. so it's making it difficult for authorities to try and track this person through that. but there is really no word from authorities at this point tonight that they have any idea of where this person is, but certainly they are searching for him throughout the city, don. >> as many cameras as there are in new york city, you cannot walk two feet without a camera and they have no idea? can't they just track him from camera to camera to camera? >> reporter: some of the cameras actually at the train stations here were malfunctioning at the

time. for whatever reason. they have not been able to get a good idea off those cameras. cameras outside -- there are businesses on fourth avenue here. it's believed he escaped outside through the train station. so presumably there would be cameras on the avenue that would have have captured him. the nypd was looking for that footage to pinpoint which way he went. surprising as that may be, given how much surveillance we go through on a daily basis in new york city, they have no idea where he is. >> that is, considering the amount of cameras from the city, the amount of cameras from the state, the government cameras, the cameras from the bodegas and the businesses. it's odd that they aren't able to see who this person is. they found a glock, extra magazines. what else did investigators find? >> reporter: so pretty frightening scenario when you think about the things that he had in his bag.

it certainly gives the credence, this thinking from authorities that this was well planned, that this was premeditated. they found a hatchet. they found two grenades, smoke grenades that were not detonated. two others wthat were. they found gasoline and fireworks. this kind of home grade fireworks that they found that was store grade that they found that they believe he purchased. and so that is what they found in this bag. they are offering a $50,000 reward. they are hoping that could help them in identifying him. but, you know, don, when you think about this gunman, this shooter, he picked probably the worst time. if there even is a possibility, right? when you think about he did this, he started his attack as the train was pulling in to the subway. the doors were closed. trapping people inside. they had nowhere to run until the train pulled into the station and then they were able to get out.

but until that moment, how terrifying that must have been for them feeling trapped with this smoke billowing inside the subway and with them -- no place for them to run until the car, the subway car, pulled into the station and then they were able to run out. >> as i understand from watching the coverage, there were five victims injured during the shooting, children, right, because there is a school nearby and they were commuting to school and probably other schools, right? there is one school nearby. there are probably a number of schools in the area. what more do you know about the victims and their injuries and the children? >> reporter: so the governor visited some of the wounded today at one of the hospitals here in brooklyn. most of them were children. she says everyone is doing okay. you know, as best as can be expected, that they are expected to survive. certainly the emotional trauma of this, especially on children, has got to be really, really concerning and that is something that of course officials are concerned about and really just the trauma on the city, which,

you know, we all rely on the subways here so much. it's the lifeline of the city to get us around. trains were filled tonight. people were going home from bork, people taking the subway. it's needed for the economy of the city an basically how people get around. most of the injured, they are expected to make it. obviously, there are some very serious leg injuries, many being shot in the leg and in the lower parts of their body. some of them just as they were trying to flee from the smoke and the gunman kept firing at them, don. >> all right. thank you very much. appreciate that. >> let's talk about that person of interest they are lacking for and other things. former new york city police commissioner bill bratton is here. perfect guest to have on. can we talk about what we were talking about? i mean, there is cameras everywhere. do we have the false sense of security that because there is cameras everywhere we're safe, that they find the suspect, someone robbing us or trying to mug us because i know i walk around new york city saying there is a camera there, there is a camera there, there's a

camera there. this happened this morning and they can't find him, still can't track him? >> new york city with the exception possibly of london has more cameras than just about any city in world. understand, however, that the connectivity between all these cameras is limited. there are police cameras. there are private sector cameras. a lot of them different technology. so it's not as if every one of these cameras is going into a central network where they can be reviewed. you have to climb up pole on some of them. the cameras below ground in the subway system are very, very old and they oftentimes are impacted by the steel dust from the steel rail and steel wheels on those rails. so the system is not as foolproof as people might think. at the same time, the resolution of this investigation within ten hours they had a person of interest identified.

they put that out to the news media. the law enforcement community did an extraordinary job gathering evidence and basically analyzing that evidence and continues to gather evidence this evening, looking at videos, looking at smartphone information that the public has brought it. so i would not focus at this stage too much on the failure of those camera systems. ironically, when i was police miss commissioner in 2014, don, the melania trump in new york is buying thousands of new train cars. i proposed to them in 2014 that they equip every one of those cars with closed-circuit cameras so the conductor could see what was going on in every one of the ten cars of a ten-car trains. 5g technology, you can monitor that from a central police facility. they is not spend the money to put those cameras in those new train cars coming online very soon. think how beneficial that would have been to have cameras in

every one of those cars today. >> i think you're 100% right on that. everyone i have been talking to, asking the question as new yorkers, as you know, as a new yorkers, new yorkers are asking, all those cameras and they can't find this guy? that's the question on everyone's mind. special this happened in the morning. people had to commute in the evening and there is someunday someone out there -- not saying it's the fault of the police department. i am surprised considering the proliferation of the cameras in our society. >> they have to access every one of those cameras. they are not all connected to spectrum. >> right. so what does it mean though then that authorities are asking for the public's help in finding this person of interest? wait. before you answer that, do you have any doubt they will find this person and find them soon? >> not at all. in this city, knowing who to look for, as well as law enforcement across the country,

whether he is still in new york, who knows at this juncture. but this is tried and true police method. get a photo of the individual, put it out, put out a reward as additional incentization and they can find this person. a milwaukee native, spending time in philadelphia, for whatever reason came to new york to commit this time. this is an emotionally disturbed individual living in an alternative universe that is basically separated from realty. looking at a lot of what the police are looking at is social media. this individual is emotionally disturbed, and that may help police find him. >> that's what i want to ask you about. they describe the shooter as being a dark-skinned male, heavy set. the feet was released says a person of interest description. is that out of precaution having

called people suspects before and then they are not actually involved? so what is -- >> it's a term of art description that you in the media should understand that. they have not the ability at this time to definitively put that gun in his hand. what they have is a license and -- excuse me, a credit card and a rental agreement with this vehicle that they found that indicating that he may have been on that train. but is there anybody at the moment that can identify that this individual had his hand on those guns? naturally they will seek to put fingerprints, dna and see if they can in fact match it up. then it moves to being a person of interest to a suspect where there is evidence to tie him definitely into this crime. so that's certainly what they're working on now, one of the threads of the investigation, the forensics investigation. as they look to apprehend him,

when they apprehend him, see if they can match up his dna with what they may find on the items that were found in that bag that he as carrying. >> i understand that. listen, especially you said the term of suspect and person of interest, we do it all the time. but they seem to make a particular point of it this time. i wanted to make sure there wasn't something that -- nothing i was missing. let's talk about what they -- go on. >> i think you in the media and the public just don't quite understand that. >> no, i get it. i get it. i understand it. i understand it. i am not sure everyone in the public -- there are people who asked me what is the difference between a person of interest and a suspect and a suspect is someone, as you said, you can -- that you have strong evidence you can put the gun in his hand. you can't do it at that point. so i understand that. thank you. >> what's a journalist versus a reporter? what's the distinct. >> right. exactly. so let's talk about what was found, a glock handgun, three extended magazines, two

detonated smoke grenades, two non-detonated smoke grenades, a hatchet at the scene. do you believe -- i think you said that you believe this was premeditated and meant to cause mass casualties. is there a -- what's to stop this from happening again? >> nothing. basically, let's face it. in new york city, one of our vulnerable areas are certainly our trains. a closed, confined area as those trains are moving between stations, that the ability to communicate is elimit nnated. the ability is exit is impossible as the doors are controlled remotely and you can no longer pass between cars because of the high number of people that injured themselves in the past. i just find it amazing, quite frankly, that this individual fired 33 shots which indicates -- the clip he had had 30 rounds in it. evidently, then ejected that, started a new one. the new one jammed after three

rounds were fired. otherwise he could have caused more damage. just think how crowded that train car was, only ten people were actually hit out of dozens upon dozens who were there. unfort fortunately, his name was low. most of these people hit in the lower extremities, the legs, rather than the torso where there would have been much more loss of life. we have something to be thankful for. one, the weapon jammed before he could get off another 27 rounds, and, two, the train was coming into the station. so people were able to flee. but it had to have been a horrific scene in that subway car. the smoke and the noise. think of a confined space. 33 rounds going off in rapid succession. the absolute terror these people were subjected to in that subway. >> trapped. they were trapped >> trapped. trapped. >> thank you, commissioner. appreciate it.

and if we -- something happens, we may be calling you back. hopefully, they get him soon. maybe they will get him in the hours we are on live tonight. if so, we'll call you. >> we need to be thanking law enforcement for less than ten hours they got an individual out there that all of us need to be looking for to get him, obviously, into custody as fast as we can. >> commissioner bratton, thank you. appreciate trnlts thank you. i want to bring in a man in the subway car this morning when the shooting started. he joins us by phone. thank you very much. appreciate you joining us. let's talk about what the commissioner said. being trapped in the car. terrifying. what happened? >> well, so to explain it shortly, i was sitting in the front end of the car and the drama started happening in the back end of the car. so i looked to the right. i see smoke, smoke coming from the ground. i don't know what it is.

i automatically assume it's a train problem. but then i see a berm ounch of e runging in my direction. so i get up and i hide behind the wooden side plank that the chairs have by the doors. i hid behind that and i stand there and from there i heard firecrackers, what i thought was firecrackers. it's not until a little bit later when i saw a lot of blood on the floor that i realized that there was somebody with a gun in there using a gun and shooting. so amidst all the chaos, there were a couple of people who were close to me that were trying to keep people calm, trying to help in any way that they can. there was this one gentleman, he tried to open the door to get between the carts and they were locked but he used as much strength as he could to open the door. and the next door was there to get to the other cart, locked as

well. so a lot of people did what they could have done, did the best that they could have done in the situation. and ultimately i can't even explain how lucky i am, you know. earlier in the day it didn't really set in until i heard all of the news that the guy's gun jammed and he had all of these weapons and extended magazines in his bag and he brought all of this just to cause chaos. and i just, you know, i feel thankful. i just feel lucky to be here. i take the train every day. >> let me ask you -- >> the craziest thing that you see is, you know, somebody yelling, you know. you're not going into a regular work day, school day thinking that something as crazy as this could happen, you he not.

know. >> yeah. so you take the train every day. can you imagine though -- this was a local, right? >> yeah. >> if it was an express, it was between a long stop. . so stops are seven to ten minutes, right? he could have -- >> yeah, it was between 59th street and 36th street. so that's about, i would say, about a three, three minutes if it's all clear. but the conductor made it clear a few stops before that, there was some train traffic ahead of us. so between the stops, there would be some stoppage. ultimately we get to the station. so what happened was the drama started to happen at the local station before 36th street, because we are on the express line going to manhattan. between the local station and the 36th street station, you are right there. we were right there by the train station.

this was -- that's when all of this drama happened. like, the train left the station perfectly fine, perfectly normal, and it's not even until a couple of minutes in that all of this drama unfolds. all of this, honestly, took like three minutes to happen. the smoke general aid going off until the doors opened and everybody got let out. it was three minutes but it felt like forever. >> did anybody try to -- were you just so shocked and you didn't, you know, couldn't believe what was happening, anybody try to intervene or, you know, try to stop it or hold him or -- >> well, this is the thing. so the smoke detonator, whatever it was, it went off. so there was absolutely no sight at all. like i was in the front of the train, the front of the cart. i couldn't even see past halfway town the same cart. that's how smoky it was. no matter how high or low you

got, you just couldn't see. all you could see was bodies piled on top of each other, people trying to get as far away as they can, people screaming, this utter chaos and mayhem. >> yeah. yav, i got go, but how are you doing? >> i'm trying to just look at the good things, the positives, you know. there is a lot of negatives to take from this. but it's a hard thing, a hard pill to swallow, you know, the reality of the situation. but all in all i'm just thankful i am here. i am thankful my life was spared by a greater power. i'm just thankful i'm here an i hope that everybody else on the train that was there is okay and i just -- i just -- i don't want nyc, i don't want my city to be

remembered by this, you know. i don't want this to be -- i don't want this to be a regular thing. >> right on. i think we'll -- that's a good place to end this. yav, we're happy that you are here. we are sorry that you had to experience this and people got injured, but we are also very happy that no one lost their lives and we hope they get -- >> yes. >> you be well. thank you so much. >> you, too. thank you very much. >> appreciate you joining us. look, it happened in new york city. there is a surge in crime. are and that has to stop. but this could also happen in any city where there is mass transportation. so we got to remember that. we got to -- he's right. this has to stop. a lot more tonight on the shocking attack on passengers in a subway car in brooklyn. up next, vladimir putin's war raging. ukrainian forces five-hour battle to liberate zaporizhzhia

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control of mariupol where a ukrainian official says as many as 22,000 people may be dead and heavy fighting reported in the zaporizhzhia region today. ukrainian officials saying a fierce five-hour battle took place as the military tries to retake the area, but they were pushed back by russian forces. ed lav endare a in the key port city of odesa. he joins us live, 5:27 a.m. there. ed, hello to you. what can you tell us about this five hour-long battle? >> reporter: well, this is a region that has been hotly contested there in the southeast of ukraine near mariupol. and this battle we are told by ukrainian military officials lasted, as you mentioned, five hours, and it was in large part handled by a brigade of

territorial defense soldiers. so you understand the terminology here, you have the ukrainian army. whenever you hear talk of the territorial defense, these are the volunteer fighters that have been called up to fight in the battle and they work along the ukrainian army in many cases and villages across the area, going back and forth, five hours of barrage of gunfire. they were able to push back russian forces from a portion of that region, but at the end of those firefighter hours russian forces were able to get reinforcements and push those territorial defense fighters back out of that area. but it goes to speak to just how intense the fight is right now and will become because this is the region of ukraine where the russians are expected to reinforce and reinvigorate their fight for ukraine. so you can expect more of these kinds of battles to take place

in the weeks ahead. >> ed, you know, let's talk about the reports of chemical weapons being used in mariupol. the biden administration is saying that they are looking into those reports. cnn has not been able to confirm them. what to we know? >> reporter: well, this took place, it was a report from a unit there in mariupol that says that they had gotten some evidence that several of its fighters had taken on some injuries in a fight and after an attack that seemed to suggest that there is some sort of chemical or poisonous material might have been use. as you mentioned, cnn has not been able to verify that. the ukrainian government, president zelenskyy have not verified that this is what has happened. but tonight in ukraine president zelenskyy also said that he's asking the world to react preemptively to this. he says that the russians have made it clear that they are open to using checkpoints and if the

world waits for those types of weapons to be used it will already be to late. >> ed, you have been in the southeast of ukraine for some time now speaking with people and seeing the villages where heavy fighting has taken place. what do these towns look like now? >> reporter: well, it's interesting. we spent the last couple of days driving to areas in these small villages close to the front lines on the southern front of this war in ukraine, and what you find is, as the battle lines and the front lines have moved back and forth over the last few weeks, you know, we were in the town of bashanka, just mort of mykolaiv. 12,000 people had been fighting off the russians in dramatic dined kind of way just a few weeks ago. you can listen to a little bit of what that battle was like.

>> yes! >> for more than a week in march, this little town of 12,000 people fought off the russians any way it could. town councilmember vitale put out a facebook plea if anyone knew how to fire a cannon they should race out to help. a humble force of 100 people pushed the russians out. more than 170 buildings were damaged. the charred wreckage was left all over town. but the mayor tells the story of one fighter who became an instant legend. a 78-year-old man who was told he was too old to fight. instead, he made a molotov cocktail and threw it at a russian artillery system, blowing it up. we asked to speak with the man, but we are told by city officials that they are protecting his identity to keep him safe. and, don, that town of is about

25 miles from the front line. but, you know, what we learn is that once the towns push back, i mean, the russian forces, the war isn't over. they are now kind of in the mode of being the place where so many refugees from the russian occupied areas now come for safe haven and these towns kind of become support systems for their neighboring towns down the road that are still in occupied territories. and it was interesting. as we talking to the city officials there, in the city war room, if you will, we noticed a cal terron the wall that started -- that showed x's marked starting on february 24th. and the city of officials say that's how they mark the days, every day that they have survived the battle. there is, you know, in their lives right now, there is before the war and after. it was fascinating see that calendar and the way they marked it up in the last month and a half. >> thank you very much.

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. president putin thought he would roll over ukraine, roll in and get right out, right? hasn't worked out that way. his military failed to capture

kyiv and faces strong resistance from ukrainian forces and earlier today putin pushing a blatant lie that sounds like he still doesn't understand his miscalculations in this war. >> and what we're doing we're helping people, saving them from nazism and on the other hand protecting russia, taking measures yoto protect russia security. we had no choice. it was the right thing to do and i have no doubt the objectives will be achieved. >> i want to make this quite clear. what putin is doing is absolutely nothing to do with his bogus claims of saving ukraine from nazism. he just wants to pound a sovereign nation into dust. so joining me fareed zakaria the host of cnn's fareed zakaria fwps. thank you. good evening to you, sir. as i said, putin expected this invasion was going to go quickly but it has been nearly two months and russia has made really some major calculations here. how did putin get this so wrong

considering ukraine is a neighbor with deep historical ties? >> it's a very good question, don. i think there is sort of two levels at which the miscalculation, the fundamental miscalculation is. the first is he miscalculated the tree to which there would be fierce nationalistic resistance from ukraine. and that is because fundamentallily putin doesn't understand that ukraine is a separate nation. yes, they share some cultural elements with russia. yes, some parts of ukraine share the language. lots of people speak english around the world. that doesn't mean they want to be ruled from london. and he didn't understand this, that ukraine had a separate political identity, that was very -- that they were fiercely devoted to. the second mistake was he didn't recognize the reaction of the west. here we have -- this is an old mistake dictators always make. they assume that the west and democracies are decadent, you

know, they are never going to mobilize, they are internally divided, they will never be able to push back. what he is seeing is really remarkable coordination and pushback among the democracies not just of the west, but of japan and australia and south korea. so it's those two levels at which a very common inferior dictorial mistake. you forget the colonial nation is a real nation, and you always dictators always believe that democracies are weak you. in the '30s the fascists believed that. in the '60s and '70s the communists believe that. nowadays the populist nationalists believe it. democracies are strong and ukraine is real. >> they are reading and believing their own press, and putin is doing that about his country and listening to his military leaders who are, i guess, telling -- not telling him the truth. russia is deeply authoritarian

and it leads up to putin. does that suppressive structure within the government and the military prevent ac at this time information from getting to him? >> oh, absolutely. all of those kinds you have highly closed siloed systems, you know, madge-be if you are the guy to bring bad news to putin. you are going to think twice, three times, four times before you do that. you are probably going to suffer consequences. so only good news. bad news, you know, dies in, you know, dissent dies, and the result is you get a very warped reality. and as you said, you start believing your own propaganda. it's a very important point with these kinds of closed systems to understand that people are not being as consciously deceptive as you think. they are all drinking the kool-aid because that's what allows you to believe it. you created a closed, internal system, and this is where russia

begins to have not just an authoritarian flavor, but a totalitarian flavor where you are rewriting the truth, you are rewriting history and it's very, very damaging when you are trying to figure out how do you deal with the real world practical problem, which is why they have lost seven generals on the battlefield, why neve cheefd no military objective in the last 50 days. >> you know, he is saying all of that, but, i mean, you know, now he is saying, oh, well, this is a new phase. has he realized he made a -- made big mistakes now he is trying to change the calculus here? >> i don't think there is a fundamental realization that the strategy was wrong. i am sure he is blaming it on bad execution, bad intelligence. it's very unlikely that he is fundamentallily come to a realization that ukraine is a real country -- >> but he is -- >> and that worries me. i am so glad you are -- we are

having this conversation. we should not leave people with the impression that this means that things will be webetter in ukraine. no. what is likely is he will double down, dig himself in, he will ask the troops to act with even greater brutality. there will be a kind of lashing out as we've seen. so the fact that putin is doing badly, that his calculations are proving to be miscalculations, in the short run does not -- it is a scary scenario. it is a scenario in which he could escalate. he could use chemical weapons. he could go worse. we have to be very conscious of the fact that, you know, the good news is that vladimir putin miscalculated, but that's bad news as well. >> fareed zakaria, thank you, sir. appreciate it. >> pleasure. the war in ukraine pimpactig people in the u.s. with inflation rising. we will break down what it means for you and your wallet after this.

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the war overseas having an impact at home as inflation is skyrocketing hitting a 40-year high in the u.s. with prices rising more than 8.5% from the first of the year. president biden blaming vladimir putin's war in ukraine. >> your family budget, ability to fill up your tank, none of it should hinge on whether a dictator declares war an commits genocide a half a world away. >> the former chairman of the council of economic advisors, austin, good to see you, sir. let's talk about it. >> nice to see you, don. >> how much of this 8.5% inflation rate can be blamed on the war in ukraine? despite what president biden says, inflation was a major concern way before putin's invasion. >> yeah, that's fair.

you know, depends which products. i think on energy the president, you know, gasoline, the president's on pretty solid footing that the war in ukraine and what's happening in russia has played a big role, and that's certainly the most public of the prices. so there i don't think he is wrong. on other goods prices, you're quite right that inflation began before the russians began amassing troops. we're still in the fact that in the u.s. when we measure inflation, the 8% number is looking backward over the last 12 months. so 11 of the months we already knew. all that happens is we get one new month and drop off one month from a year ago. and there are at least some hopeful signs in the number that came out that the new inflation that's coming in is not quite as bad as what we expected, and

it's kind of dropping, but the old inflations that are still in there are going to be with us the next several months are high, so the overall is pretty high. >> okay. gas prices up more than 18% last month alone. even with when you strip out the more volatile food and energy categories, prices still rose 6.5%. am i correct? over last year. which is the last -- >> over the last year. >> since august of 1928. >> yes, but this is what i'm saying. the one bright spot in the numbers were that the amount of prices went up just this month for that core inflation was down to 0.3%, which is well below what it has been running. so -- >> you're saying it's on the way down? is that what you're saying? >> it's on -- >> indicator -- >> the new inflation is on the way down. everybody is hoping that continues. if it did continue, then we

would -- this would kind of be the peak inflation and we would see things croppidropping from . we don't know that that will continue, but that's the only bright spot. and it's not much of a bright spot in the political timetable because the economy just moves slower. it's not -- the white house wants that to turn around, you know, by may or certainly by november, and it's not clear that it is able to do that. >> okay. let's talk about something -- this is important to americans, all right? they are hurting. food costs up 8.8% from last year, used cars up more than 35%, unemployment low at 3.6%, aims wages are rising, but it's hard for people to enjoy the gains when they are paying so much for food and gas prices. it's wiping out, you know, the raises or the cost of living increases or whatever it is. how long do you expect this to

last? >> i'm hopeful that by the summer, you know, the answer to that hinges, i think, on two things. do we get any more covid variants and then we got to go back through this shutdown and people afraid so he with can't spend money on services that's happened the last two years? and what happens in ukraine and to the price of oil. let's say those two things don't get worse. then i'm hopeful by the summer you would at least start to see some relief on a bunch of these categories that the inflation rate would come down and if we maintain the strong job market with wages growing and inflation starts to am could down, they'd begin feeling better. if we can't address those two or if wages stall out, then i think people are still going to be upset, you know, going into the summer and beyond.

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russian forces using a brutal new tactic in their war in ukraine. dropping landmines that explode hours later which can kill and maim unexpected civilians. reporting from kyiv, a city under constant shell.

>> reporter: this is the central market area in kharkiv and this is the site of most of last night's strikes. we've come here with emergency service first responders because the russians have come up with a new tactic. to ensure that the devastation of their attacks last far beyond first impact. leftenant colonel head of the bomb disposal team. >> translator: the mines explode by themselves and cause damage. these elements can detonate between three and 40 hours later. we have to donate remotely to avoid damage to the civilian population. >> reporter: there are unexploded mines all over this area, so they can't get too close. what they do is wrap plastic explosives around a wire, link it to a designator. that then is placed next to the unexploded ordnance. they retreat, then they blow it

up. a brutal new tactic leaving death to lie in wait for unsuspecting civilians. >> reporting from kharkiv. thank you. we have got more on the ongoing crisis in ukraine, plus a terrifying shooting in a new york city subway. police announcing what they are calling a person of interest as a manhunt continues. that's all at the top of the hour. stay with us.