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this is cnn breaking news. >> hello. i want to welcome all of our viewer here is in the united states and all around the world. i'm paula newton at cnn headquarters in atlanta, and we are following late-breaking details on the manhunt for the person accused of opening fire on a crowded subway train in new york city.
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>> i'm john vause life in lviv, ukraine with the latest on russia's military buildup for the eastern offensive as the u.s. president accuses russia of committing genocide. >> we begin this hour, though, with that manhunt for the brooklyn subway shooter. police say the suspect set off two smoke grenades tuesday morning before firing his gun 33 times, shooting at the crowds both on the train and the subway platform. at least ten people were hit. no one was killed. police have identified the man you see right there, and they have identified him as a person of interest, because he is believed to have rented a u-haul van whose keys were actually found at the scene. now he has not been named as a suspect. authorities are investigating any possible connection he could have to the shooting, and we will have much more on this story in a moment. but first, we want to bring you the latest on russia's war in ukraine.
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thank you, paula. for the first time u.s. president joe biden is accusing russia of committing genocide in ukraine. biden made the comment when talking about an increase in gasoline prices and doubled down on the accusation later. >> i called it genocide because it's become clearer and clearer that putin is just trying to wipe out the idea of even being able to be ukrainian. and the evidence is mounting. we'll let the lawyers -- >> president biden's words were welcomed by ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy, who called them the true words of a true leader. meanwhile, new satellite images reveal military equipment deployed on russian soil not far from ukraine's border, and military convoys have also been
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seen moving through eastern ukraine near the donbas. and on tuesday, u.s. secretary of state antony blinken said he could not confirm the use of chemical weapons in ukraine, but noted there is credible information that russian forces may use a variety of riot control agents. and here is what ukraine's president had to say about a potential chemical weapons attack. >> translator: given the repeated threats of russian propagandists to use chemical weapons against the defenders of mariupol and its repeated use by the russian army such as foss rouse munitions in ukraine, the world must respond now. react preventatively, because after the use of weapons of mass destruction, any response will not change anything, and it will only look like a humiliation for the democratic world. >> and now we're hearing from the russian president vladimir putin who says peace talks are at an impasse, and the war, he says, will good on. >> translator: we have again
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returned to a dead-end situation for ourselves and for all of us. the military operation will continue until it's fully completed and the objectives that were set at the beginning of this operation are achieved. >> as russian forces retreated from areas in the north of ukraine, they littered the area with explosive devices. many dropped from the air, others placed in homes or even stuffed in children's toys, according to ukrainian officials. many of these devices are anti-personnel mines or anti-vehicle mines set to explode by timers or triggered by detecting nearby motion. adds cnn's nima elbagir reports, sweeping the area is slow, dangerous, and potentially deadly work. >> reporter: this is the central market area in kharkiv, and this is the sight of most of last night's strikes. we've come here with emergency service first responders because the russians have come up with a new tactic to ensure that the
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devastation of their attacks last far beyond first impact. lieutenant colonel is the head of the bomb disposal team. >> translator: the mines explode by themselves and cause damage. these elements can detonate between 3 and 40 hours later, so we have to detonate them remotely to avoid damage to the civilian population. >> reporter: there are unexploded mines all over this area. so they can't get too close. what they do is they wrap plastic explosives around a wire, link it to a detonator. that's then placed next to the unexploded ordnance. they retreat, then they blow it up. a brutal new tactic leaving death to lie in wait for unsuspecting civilians. nima elbagir, cnn, kharkiv. for now, let's go back to
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paula newton, standing by in atlanta. paula? >> thank you, john. more now on the investigation into the new york subway shooting. police are looking for this man who they've identified as a person of interest, though not a suspect. 62-year-old frank james is believed to have rented a u-haul van that could be linked to this shooting. the keys were found along with what police say were the shooter's belongings. now tuesday morning's attack began with a smoke grenade before a gunman opened fire. the man who was wounded in the shooting described what happened next. >> normally, the trains from 59th street to 36th street, it usually takes two minutes. but the train kept stopping in between tunnels, in between 45th street. it took forever, you know? and it's an old-style train. you can't switch scar cars. somebody broke the first door down and the second door was really hard to break. and i was just focused on the pregnant woman. and that's when i got struck in the leg, man.
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i was just on my way to work. i'm still shocked and i'm shaken. i don't even know how i'm holding my phone. i don't think i could ever ride a train again, to be honest. >> steve moore is a retired fbi supervisory special agent. he joins me now from los angeles. it is good to see you. >> good to see you. >> what a day. and just listening to his account, thinking about him being trapped in the car that way. this is everyone's definition of terror. i mean, you can't see for the smoke, then all of the sudden you start having trouble breathing, and then the shooting starts. there is nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. >> yeah, this is the nightmare scenario that we've -- that law enforcement has been working to try and neutralize since 9/11. it's no secret, excuse me, that subways are somewhat vulnerable, and we have to work towards getting those -- getting those secured as soon as possible.
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this does point out the vulnerabilities of the subway. and in an ironic twist, that may have been the purpose of the shooter. >> now i'm going to lean on your investigative experience here, and it is long, especially in the years after 9/11, also with active shooters. does it surprise you at this point in time? he was on a public train, that whoever did this is still at large at this hour? >> yeah, i think it doesn't surprise me so much that he was able to get away with this, or at least get away from this temporarily. he was not very sophisticated, but he was smart enough to know if you create confusion and havoc, the smoke the panic, you're going to be able to make some distance between yourself and the scene of the crime before law enforcement people get there.
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>> you know, many people have remarked it could have been far worse. the most puzzling question now, like always, right, is why? what could the motive possibly be. when you hear that police found on the train a handgun, at least two smoke grenades, a hatchet, fireworks, gasoline, what does all that tell you? >> well, it tells me that he had bigger plans, or he had alternate plans. you have the gasoline and the fireworks. obviously that's to set something on fire and have it burning pretty fiercely pretty quickly. he didn't do that. he had a hatchet, didn't use that. he had a gun, didn't use that. and this must sound horrible to the poor victims of this, but he didn't use it extremely lethally. the wounds i've seen, every wound i've heard of so far is in the legs. that may be an indicator that he doesn't know how to shoot. maybe the smoke got him too. but we're just grateful for
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that. although leg injuries can be fatal also. >> yeah, absolutely. and there were certainly some victims who remained in serious condition. >> absolutely. >> i want to ask you about what investigators do now, though, to try and track this suspect, whomever it is. >> when you catch this guy, and it's not going to be long. i'm fairly certain of this. when you catch him, i've been in interviews the morning after a shooting like, this and the one thing they do is they tell you why they did it. you're not going to find this guy lawyering up immediately and saying i wasn't there, i don't know what you're talking about. this guy, based on what we've seen of his social media presence and things he said that are very disturbing, this guy wants people to listen to him. this guy wants credit for what he did, and this guy is going to want to explain to law enforcement why he did it. that's part of his satisfaction in this.
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>> all right. we'll leave it there for now. steve more. a reminder, at this hour, police still searching for a suspect in that terrible day of terror there on the subway. steve moore, thank you. now one small ukrainian farming town came under attack. but with just a few dozen people, can you imagine? they managed to push the russians out. we'll go back to john vause live in ukraine for that story ahead. and later, how top kremlin officials with government salaries live in the lap of luxury. we'll dive into what one expert calls russia's government of thieves. where do you find the pt developer? well, we found her in prague between the ideal cup of coffee and a museum-quality chronology of the personal computer. ...but you can find her, and millionsns of other talend pros, right now on upwork.
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notably, leaving behind thousands of unexploded explosive devices actually in areas which are civilian areas. for more on this now, we're joined by matthew schmidt. he is a professor of national security and legal science at the university of new haven in connecticut. matthew, thank you for being with us. i just want to be clear. leaving behind mines on bridges and roads and leaving explosives in refrigerators, living rooms, and booby-trapping children's toys, the only way russian soldiers have not committed war crimes here is if someone else did that. and that seems as likely as a snowball's chance in hell. well can say very categorically that war crimes are being committed. >> absolutely these are war crimes. if you see this in isolated incidents, then you might say it is an incident of individual soldier sort of going overboard. but we see this systematically throughout the theater. >> and this is something that the russian soldiers are
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actually known for in the past. they have often left behind in old soviet days when it was the soviet military, they left behind areas covered in land mines oftentimes so when the civilian population returns or the liberating forces come through, they're met with essentially death and destruction, right? >> this is a strategy. the civilian population is the pivot point in this war. and what the russian troops are trying to do right now, what they've been ordered to do is essentially to put so much pain, put so much horror into the civilian population that that forces zelenskyy to negotiate from a position he may not be ready to negotiate from. on the other hand, it also forces him to act before he is ready, particularly in the donbas right now. so the new general dvornikov can sit here and use this kind of policy, this strategy of committing war crimes and terrifying the civilian
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population to control the negotiating standpoint of his enemy. >> well, we heard from the russian president vladimir putin actually talking about those peace negotiations that have been ongoing. he spoke publicly. it's been a while since he has actually made any kind of public remarks, and he said that ukraine had violated agreements which had been reached during those talks earlier by trying to apply security guarantees to areas of ukraine which are under russian control. i want you to listen to a little more from vladimir putin. here he is. >> translator: now security requirements are one thing and the issues regulating relations over crimea, sebastopol and donbas are taken out of the scope of these agreements. that is we have again returned to a dead-end situation for ourselves and for all of us. >> so if peace talks, according to putin, are at a dead-end, what does that mean?
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how can you relate that to what will happen to this civilian population? >> well, they're at a dead-end on both sides. because putin has been ordering these war crimes, he's also put zelenskyy in a situation where because he needs a national referendum to get through any kind of peace agreement, he's unlikely to get that now. the sense of the ukrainian population has turned. on the other hand, russia has never been negotiating from a position of good faith. and so both sides now are racing to get position in the donbas. the russians are flipping the battlefield. they're going from the offense to the defense, in large part because they've lost so many junior officers that they need to be in a defensive position where it's easier to operate, right, where the simple order is hold the line and they can wait to try to reman when they get the new conscripts trained up and moved into place. so that's the game that's going on right now. and i wouldn't put any faith into these negotiations. >> we continue to see these
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russian forces moving in to the east and bringing this military offensive and materiel with them. i want you to listen to president zelenskyy. he had this reminder of where the war stood right now. here he is. >> translator: do you remember how russia bragged that they would seize kyiv in 48 hours? instead ukraine has been repelling the enemy for 48 days. today it is worth remembering. >> it's a god point, but can the successes they've had in the early part of this conflict, can they now repeat that if they are forced to take on the russians who will then be in those defensive positions as they wait to rearm and get reinforcements? >> well, it's worth bearing in mind that ukraine hasn't won this war, that the russians, for all the problems they've had, are still controlling operational tempo and making the ukrainians respond to them and not the other way around. now zelenskyy's trying to flip
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that back and take tempo on his side, but what he needs are weapons. the announcement today that the united states is going to be sending over things like uparmored humvees, which will stand in as sort of substitute for tanks gives ukrainians a lot of hope they can do this. but again, it's a race. it's how fast can that materiel flow into the theater of operations and how quickly can the ukrainians utilize to it keep the russians from establishing a line of contact that takes over the whole donbas. >> so it's all about timing and it's all about the urgent need for weapons, and i guess we'll continue to see what happens with that. matthew schmidt, it was a great pleasure to have you with us today. thank you. >> my pleasure. >> well, russia has shifted its strategy in ukraine. president putin has made it clear he has no plans that this war will come to an end any time soon. a senior u.s. defense official believes russia still has about 80% of the combat power that it had amassed before the invasion began, but the ukrainians continue to defy expectations,
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and that resistance continues to show. the result has been plain to see, especially in one small farming town as cnn's ed lavandera reports. >> reporter: one look at these massive craters in the small ukrainian town of bashtanks, and it's not hard to imagine russian forces bombing this neighborhood. the mayor brought us here. he said the russian plane that dropped the bomb circled over these homes several times before unleashing the explosive attack. "this is a simple, peaceful town," he says, "with just ordinary people, no military. farming is what we do here to feed the country and the world." there was a 70-year-old man in this house peeling potatoes when this bomb struck. what happened to him? >> god decided not to take him
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away. he tells me the man survived. for more than a week in march, this little town of 12,000 people fought off the russians any way it could. town councilmember vitali put out a facebook plea that if anyone knew how to fire a cannon, they should race out to help. a humble force of about 100 people pushed the russians out. more than 170 buildings were damaged. the charred wreckage was left all over town. but the mayor tells the story of one fighter who became an instant legend, a 78-year-old man who was told he was too old to fight. instead, he made a molotov cocktail and threw it at a russian artillery system, blowing it up. we asked to speak with the man, but we're told by city officials they're protecting his identity to keep him safe. the town might have won the battle, but this war never ends.
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bashtanka is now a frontline refuge for thousands of ukrainians hoping to escape. every day at this church, buses drop off refugees fleeing russian occupied areas just a few miles way. this woman says she left the city of kherson after enduring weeks of bombardment. >> they break into people's homes every night, drag people out, beat them up. my neighbors were beaten up. thank god they're still alive. they're probably doing that to scare people so they're always in fear. it was horrible there. every day people are going crazy, to be honest. it's intolerable. the children, the tension is terrible. you don't know if you wake up tomorrow. >> escaping alive is a dream, as we found closer to the front lines. the nearby village has endured weeks of shelling. you can see the munition and the shrapnel.
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you can see this building over here peppered with holes. >> re as we meet with the village head man, it's clear the fighting isn't over. "yes, they are firing," he says. alexander golodryga said the russians fired at a cluster of young people charging their phones in this spot. "they do it on purpose so people will panic," he tells me. we understand there was a refugee, 17 years old who came here trying to escape, and she was killed? lydia dominica couldn't escape the russian strikes, a young woman trying to reach bashtanka. her mother says she was studying food production and shared these photos so her daughter cannot be forgotten. inside bashtanka's war room, councilmember shows us the calendar where they mark the days of war.
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"when the war started, our life was divided," he tells me. "there is before and after. we mark every day we survive this battle." right now the russian army is regrouping and is expected to attack again from the east. we are 25 miles away from the front line. how concerned are you that the russians are going to be able to get back here? the mayor says "we are not concerned. our country is good at two things, making bread and fighting. if we need to fight, we all rise up and fight. if we don't need to fight, we grow bread." but right now the town of bashtanka remains on the front line, giving families a way to catch a bus and leave the war behind. ed lavandera, cnn, bashtanka, ukraine. >> great report there by ed
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lavandera. we'll take a short break. when we come back, the u.s. president refusing to send active troops to ukraine, so retired american veterans are coming here any way. one colonel training ukrainians to fight back. more on his story in a moment. your record label is taking off. but so is your sound engineer. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. you need to hire. indeed instant matchnstantly delivers quality candidates matching your job deription. visit indeed.com/hire nicorette knows, quiing smoking is freaking hard. you get advice like: try hypnosis... or..
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it's reliable and fast. wireless savings so good, even the bad guys love it. switch to xfinity mobile today. and see dreamworks "the bad guys." and welcome back. recapping the manhunt that's under way for a gunman who reportedly set off two smoke bombs, then opened fire in a new york city subway. now it happened tuesday. authorities say 33 shots were fired. ten people were hit, including five students commuting to school. all thankfully are expected to survive. police named frank james as a person of interest. keys to a u-haul van were found at the scene, and that van was
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later discovered in brooklyn. police say james rented the van, but they don't know if he has any connection to the subway attack, and he has not been named as a suspect. the u.s. is expected to announce yet another round of military aid for ukraine. two source tell cnn the package will be close to $700 million. but the u.s. president is standing by his refusal to send active duty troops here to fight. but there are a growing number of u.s. veterans making their way to ukraine, volunteering to help ukrainian fighters in a war where they're outnumbered and outgunned by the russian military. cnn's jake tapper has details. >> reporter: current u.s. service members are not in ukraine. but u.s. veterans? they damn sure are. at an undisclosed location in ukraine, a retired u.s. marine, veteran colonel andrew milburn is training ukrainians to fight the russians.
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milburn knows what it's like on the front lines. an american who grew up in the uk, he has served in somalia, libya, afghanistan, and iraq. >> you know, i went through the battle of fallujah, but i would rather do that again than confront a 12-hour barrage of russian artillery like the one we're seeing. >> reporter: having retired from the u.s. military in 2019, milburn runs an organization that brings in other former special forces members to assess the needs of various militaries. after losing the battle of kyiv, leaving behind devastation and evidence of atrocities, the russians are now turning to the eastern flank of ukraine to what will likely be a series of large scale battles. >> ukrainian military at large is more adaptive than the u.s. military. i think i feel qualified to say that. >> this more open, less wooded terrain in the east could be more challenging for the ukrainian military, which was able to rely on guerrilla
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tactics and calling in targeted strikes in the north. >> it is going to be a significant challenge. the russians are much stronger in the defense. >> reporter: milburn trains ordinary ukrainians to fight in the resistance, as well as training more elite ukrainian special forces like mikola. ukraine nan successes mikola says are because of help from the u.s., other nato countries and individuals like milburn. >> also because of your help, we were quite successful with the first attack. so russian territory not for their own reach. they lost a lot of troops, a lot of tanks, a lot of armed vehicles. we were using -- we were using modern europe and american anti-tank missiles, and they lost a lot. >> reporter: he knows what's to come will be tough. >> we need more. now, yes, you're right, it
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doesn't mean the war is stopped already. >> reporter: milburn agrees. the ukrainians still need a great deal. >> they need drones, right. they need drones with a range longer than the dj one. they need secure radios because they need to communicate. those are very basic things. they need medical equipment. >> reporter: even upgrading the basic equipment they already have could make a big difference, he says. >> for a lot of times sake, they're coordinating by cell phone or by just kind of regular motorola radios which can be intercepted, geolocated, jammed. so anyone who has been in any western military would be astounded. >> reporter: but weapons and equipment are not the only need. training, he says, is key. >> they lack medical training. and evidence of that is if you talk to ukrainian medics, there have r some horror stories out there. so injuries that would be easily survivable in iraq or afghanistan by uk or u.s.
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soldiers, ukrainians are dying from here. >> reporter: milburn is proud of his time in uniform. he is proud to be a marine, but there is something purer about this fight, he says than the others he has fought. >> but frankly, you know, serving in iraq and afghanistan, especially afghanistan after the debacle back in was it august, there was always a kind am give lance. even at the beginning, this thought the cause was good. there was always that dissonance between the idealism that pulled you into the military and what you found yourself doing. here there is no such thing. you got one sovereign nation being invaded by another. yes, to a point, when it comes down to it, it is evil, good versus evil. and this time it fell very squarely on the side of good. >> reporter: jake tapper, cnn, lviv, ukraine. >> paula newton will take over
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the british prime minister has apologized and paid his fine, but is refusing to resign for his role in the so-called partygate scandal. boris johnson and chancellor of the exchequer are among those fined by london's metropolitan police for attending illegal parties in government buildings during covid lockdowns. cnn's nara bashir picks up the story from there. >> reporter: in yet another shocking development in britain's partygate scandal, prime minister boris johnson along with his chancellor and his wife carrie johnson has been issued with a fixed penalty notice for taking part in social gatherings in breach of covid regulations. now this fine in particular centers around a social gathering which took place in june 2020. we've heard from the prime minister.
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he said the event in question was a celebration with colleagues in the cabinet office at 10 downing street to mark his birthday. he has issued an apology for taking part in this social gathering, but he also said that he wasn't aware at the time that this event was in breach of those covid regulations put in place by his government. >> i have to say, in all frankness, at that time, it did not occur to me that this might have been a breach of the rules. but of course the police have found otherwise, and i fully respect the outcome of their investigation. >> now that police investigation is still ongoing. we of course heard over the christmas period of several parties and social gatherings which took place both in downing street and across other government departments and offices. so there are still some questions as to how many other politicians will be implicated in this scandal. and the prime minister has since
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confirmed that he has paid the fine, but that will come as little consolation to the many politicians and members of the public who have been calling on the prime minister to resign over this scandal. we've heard from the opposition leader, scotland's first minister and london mayor sadiq khan all calling for the prime minister to step down from his position. but the prime minister did address these calls for resignation. he said he wants to draw a line under the scandal, to move forward and to focus on delivering his policy priorities for the country. and of course to focus on britain's response to the war in ukraine as well as the humanitarian effort on that front. but for the many people who lost loved ones as a result of the covid pandemic who were forced apart from friends and family while abiding by the covid regulations put in place by the prime minister, the news that he has now been fined for breaking those regulations will only heighten the anger and frustration that we saw over the
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christmas period when the revelations of these parties came to light. and with local elections coming up, just around the coroner may, the government will be waiting to see how this frustration translates at the ballot box. nada bashir, cnn, london. the deputy director of china's national health coalition warns shanghai's covid outbreak has not been contained effectively. the city is seeing tens of thousands of new cases for days with 220 new infections since march 1. cnn's anna coren joins us now from hong kong. you've been following this each and every day. we talk about whether or not there has been some slight easing of restrictions. but i guess at the heart of the matter, right, is there access to better food and crucially, medicine? >> well, paula, certainly the people that we are speaking to are yet to see the results of that. we know of the food and medicine
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shortages that the 25 million people in shanghai have been experiencing since the end of march. obviously, we know that delivery platforms have resumed operation. there should be more movement around the city, but there are still neighborhoods going without. and that is incredibly distressing. what we know is that about 4.8 million people are now allowed to leave their homes, leave their compounds, leave their neighborhoods, walk around their neighborhoods. we should also stress the public transport system has been shut down, as have supermarkets. so herein lies even more problems. but for 20 million other people, paula, they cannot leave their homes. and some can't leave their compounds. they may be allowed out of their homes, but not out of their compounds. as you said, we heard from the national health commission that said that outbreak had not been effectively contained. and yet it would seem that they are relenting to that pressure
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that has been applied to them over the last few weeks by residents taking to social media, venting their anger and frustration about what they are enduring. that is the economic engine of shanghai. this is an international city, home to 25 million people. and yet it is not feeding its people that they have kept as one resident said like caged animals. i now want to play you, paula, a clip which is really quite alarming and perhaps shows the desperation that people are experiencing. this is a distressed mother who was looking for medicine for her baby who had a fever at 2:00 in the morning. take a listen.
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>> you can only imagine the distress that she was going through. we've since heard that the ben's fever has come down and that she had contacted the ambulance service. they said there are 300 people in the queue before you. we can't attend to your baby. just so shocking still, anna. thanks for being on top of it. appreciate it. still to come, how the kids of russia's elite are able to afford the best the world has to offer, despite a very small government paycheck. your energy goes into the fruits and the vegetables that you'r're growing. find more ways to grow at miracacle-gro.com
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now, although russian government employees, including some in the kremlin, rail against the west, a quick look at their lavish lifestyles begs the question, how are they able to afford any of this? cnn's drew griffin finds out. >> reporter: as putin's at atrocities continue in ukraine, he falsely blames the west and europe for the war. >> translator: the whole planet is now paying for the west's ambitions and the west's attempts to maintain its elusive dominance. >> reporter: yet his own adult daughters sanctioned by the u.s. treasury. both have reportedly owned property in the west, including this seaside mansion on the french coastal town of bay aritz. >> it's hypocritical and still rely on the west and their liberal values. >> reporter: that hypocrisy, criticizing the west while family members live in the west, is shared by putin's inner circle. kremlin press secretary dmitry peskov's unofficial role is
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vladimir putin's chief liar. >> russian military are not hitting civil aims, civil targets. >> reporter: he's spent his life in government jobs. official salary, about $173,000 in 2020, yet has been spotted wearing a $600,000 watch according to an anti-corruption group. his socialite daughter, liza, went to a boarding school in france, interned at louis vuitton, and posted pictures of an enviable life in paris filled with fashion and glamour. >> i consider myself a person of the world. i was born in turkey, lived in france, studied in russia and france. that is, i don't have any favorite country. i love each place in its own way. >> reporter: so how does a family live like this on a russian government salary? liza pes kova once wrote a tongue in cheek post saying she's the daughter of the main billionaire and thief of the country. the u.s. treasury all but used the same language when they sanctioned her and other family members, saying they live
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luxurious lifestyles that are incongruous with peskov's civil servant salary and are likely built on the ill-gotten wealth of peskov's connection to putin. pes kova called the sanctions a witch hunt on telegram, saying accusing family for enabling war is madness, and she's proud to be russian. jody vit tory, georgetown university professor specializing in illicit state financing, says it boils down to russia's current governmental system, kleptocracy. >> a kleptocracy is merely a government that is ruled by thieves and where the policies and decisions made are on behalf of those thieves. >> reporter: it's a similar situation with russia's foreign minister. sergey lavrov officially makes $143,000 per year. but the 27-year-old who has been described as lavrov's stepdaughter has been living a lavish lifestyle. the anti-corruption foundation says she attended a british boarding school. like peskov's daughter, she's left a social media trail of
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exotic trips, filthy rich adventures, and high style across europe and beyond. and she reportedly owns a 4 million pound property in london according to the uk, where she's been sanctioned for benefiting from association of those responsible for russian aggression. though the accounting is almost impossible to trace, russian anti-corruption investigator maria pevcha is convinced the apartments, the mansions, lifestyles are the real salaries being paid to putin's allies. >> the system works in a way that in order to keep those people who are willing to be the face of putin's regime, like the ministers, they need to be incentivized. their salary is not enough. >> reporter: georgetown's jody vit ory says the people in putin's inner circle know it can all vanish in an instant. >> he can turn on his regime at any time he chooses. you can go to jail. your family can go to jail. moving as much as you can out of
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the country also just makes sense. >> reporter: as for a response to this from the kremlin, a spokesperson for the ministry of foreign affairs tells us that neither putin nor lavrov have accounts in britain or anywhere else abroad. and as for the sanctions against putin's daughters, a spokesperson told us this. that russia will respond without fail and will do so as it sees fit. drew griffin, cnn, atlanta. thanks for spending time with us this year. we will be right back and go live to ukraine with john vause for the latest on the russia conflict. hot tutub, why not? and of course, puppy-friendly. wewe don't like to say perfect, but it's pretty perfect. booking.g.com, booking.yeah. you're a one-man stitchwork master. but your staffffing plan needs to go up a size. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly deliversuality candidates
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