this is cnn breaking news. >> hello. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i am john vause live in lviv, ukraine, where the country has formally claimed russia's invasion to be genocide. in a moment, i will speak with one ukrainian lawmaker about why and what difference will it make? >> and i am michael holmes coming to you live from atlanta, following the day's other top stories. we are following a violent clash in one of jerusalem's holiest mosques during one of the holiest weeks in religion.

we begin with what some are calling a humiliating defeat for vladimir putin's military. the sinking of the moskva, russia's flagship guided-missile cruiser in the black sea. sources tell cnn u.s. and western intelligence believe ukrainian claims that it hit this ship with then neptune anti-ship missiles. russia said it sank after a fire on board ignited munitions. ukraine's national security adviser called the attack a very important mission, vowed there would be more to come. cnn's math crew chance toured the moskva when it was deployed in syria in 2015. >> reporter: the now-sunken flagship of russia's black sea fleet, the moskva, was always about intimidation and delivering a blunt message from the kremlin, whether to ukraine or elsewhere. well, this is an extremely impressive bit of military hardware out here in the eastern mediterranean. when we went aboard this

once-powerful symbol of russian' naval power off the syrian coast in 2015, the ship's captain told me they deployed on the personal orders of president putin. furious a russian aircraft had been shot down by turkey just weeks before. the moskva, bristling with its missiles, is a threatening weapon the captain warned. the loss of this war firepower now, which he witnessed at close quarters seven years ago, is a humiliating military blow. you can see, it's got these enormous missile-launching tubes which can carry a nuclear missile, though we are told there are none aboard at the moment. it's got this big gun as well to defend itself. but most importantly, this ship, the moskva, has very sophisticated surface to air missiles and that's why it's been deployed here off the coast of syria to provide air defenses for russian warplanes to carry

out their strikes back in syria. that same weaponry was unleash on ukraine, too. these recent images from the russian defense ministry show the moskva firing cruise missiles from the black sea. the ship was also involved in the russian takeover of a ukrainian island early on in the war. ukrainian troops refusing to surrender, telling the moskva where to go. >> [ bleep ]. >> reporter: confirmation this black sea flagship has now been sunk will be a major boost for ukrainian' morale. it's another big loss in russia's staggering war. well, there is a sense from the ukrainians that this is retribution. one ukrainian official telling cn cnn that putin came to kill our women, our children, our civilians. this in return is our gift to him. makt you chance, cnn,

washington. russia is adding command and control and aviation capabilities to its forces in eastern ukraine as it prepares for an offensive to take more territory in the donbas region. a senior-u.s. defense official says the first russian troops who withdrew from northern ukraine about two weeks ago are now appearing in the east. ukraine claims it has stopped at least one advance in the kharkiv region. special operations forces say they destroyed a bridge as a russian convoy of trucks and armored vehicles was crossing and the head of local military reports say that russian troops are shelling residential areas as they move towards donbas. the international criminal court at the hague has been investigating alleged russian atrocities in ukraine since early march. top prosecutor declared ukraine a crime scene after visiting the cities of bucha and borodianka. two places, where evidence of potential war crimes being collected. he sat down and spoke to cnn about why it is vital to push on with these investigations. >> nobody is above the law.

nobody's beneath it. but whether you're a private or a captain or a colonel or a general or a civilian superior, the basic principles apply to you. nobody gets the get out of free card, nobody gets a free pass. every individual must act with responsibility in the -- in their contact and there is this personal accountability. superior orders is not a defense. it is not enough, um, to attack a civilian object and attack women and children, for example, to say i was told to do so. this is an opportunity and a responsibility to mobilize the law, and set it into battle. not on behalf of ukraine or against russia, nor on behalf of russia against ukraine. but on behalf of humanity. >> ukrainian officials have claimed that russia's actions in ukraine constitute genocide ask earlier this week, u.s. president joe biden also called it genocide. white house, though, said he was not making any legal judgment. on thursday, though, the

ukrainian parliament put it in writing and called on the international community to do the same. the plegislature adopted a resolution calling out moscow's offensive as attempt to wipe out ukrainian culture and identity. the lawmakers cited mass atrocities, killing, rape, as justification for the label of genocide. joining me now from kyiv, member of the ukrainian parliament. thank you so much for taking time to speak with us today, kira. we appreciate your time. what does this declaration actually mean? ha does it actually change? >> hello, thank you so much for having me. well, what happening in ukraine right now as genocide means that the international community and the international organization will definitely have to act. so for 80 years after the second world war, the world was saying

never again. and yet, it happened. russians didn't come here to conquer our land. they didn't come here, like, to make us slaves or something. they came here, specifically, to destroy us, to kill us, to wipe us off the world of the surface. and this is genocide. a and our statement asks the other countries ask otand other parliaments of the world to accept and make the statement as well. so then, on the way the prosecution will occur, on the way that putin and his generals will be, at some point, put to trial. on the way that their international tribunal will take the people who were actually fighting in ukraine for responsibility. so, it has very important, both, public meaning but also it has a very important judicial meaning

that then will led -- lead to specific prosecution on these crimes. >> so, there is growing recognition, worldwide. we have the u.s. president, you know, calling it genocide. wednesday, the prime minister of canada told reporters there are official processes around determinations of genocide. he went on to say i think it's absolutely right that more people approbe talking and usin word genocide in terms of what russia is doing, what vladimir putin has done. how important is it that not just russia approximbe called o countries like belarus, that they could be guilty, they could be investigated for genocide? >> our general goal is to make russia north korea like a country nobody wants to shake hands of, that is completely isolated. his economy is going down and his people are taking the responsibility for the crimes

that they are doing. so it is extremely important to say it is genocide so the country even have in mind supporting russia, like hungary, like serbia, other ones. they would know that this will make them pretty much untouchable themselves. it is important to put in people's mind that's what's happening in ukraine has specific meaning and it is a scar scary meaning because when you hear the word genocide, you have all the images from the second world war, from what happened in ghettos. and it also adds to the images that we have seen from bucha and borodianka. and while russia is saying, okay, it's our military operation. we are almost done, and then we will be back home. we are saying, no, the hurt that has been done to my nation, to my country, this is the meaning. this is the genocide. this is cannot be forgotten, forgiven. this is the crime against humanity. this is what united nation vowed to prosecute till the end and

countries in united nations vowed this, as well. so, the world accepting that what happening in ukraine is genocide means that it will not be, you know, put under the cover. it's something that people will remember, and say that we'll prosecute till the end until every single dpilt pguilty pers brought to justice. >> given that, moving forward now, does this mean ukraine will reassess exporting and selling weapons to countries like myanmar? in september last year, justice for myanmar noted the spupply o weapons which included air surveillance radar, aircraft engines, light tanks, was in their report not only fortifying the military in its battle against the anti-coup resistance. it also helped abet its actions during the nld, national league of democracy legislation, when it carried out assaults on the

muslim rohingya communities which u.n. experts have equated to genocide. so, given all of that, how important is it that ukraine reassesses what it has done and what it does in the future? i know you are in a fight for survival right now but these are important questions and it is important in terms of international support. >> everything the case of skren side or anybody supporting genocide should be discovered, and every guilty person should be taking to the justice. i obviously cannot comment on ukraine selling any kind of weapon. i -- um -- don't have information about that. >> okay. thank you so much. sorry? finish your thought, please. >> it all should be the same for everybody. that is absolutely correct. >> absolutely. kira for us live in kyiv, we he appreciate your time. thank you, ma'am. in the coming weeks, sweden and finland are expected to

announce whether they will apply to join nato. the finnish foreign minister tells cnn his country is already prepared for different kinds of tlaefts from russia if finland pursues membership. the kremlin has long made threatening statements about sweden and finland joining nato. on thursday, the former-russian president dmitry medvedev said if it happens, quote, it will no longer be possible to talk about any non-nuclear status of the baltic region. the balance must be restored. and back to michael and cnn headquarters in atlanta. that was a thinly veiled threat, michael, if you like they would send arms to the baltic regions. countries like lithuania and former prime minister of sweden points out those nuclear weapons are already there, so it is kind of an empty threat. >> yeah, yeah, exactly. and just terrifying to even contemplate any use of those weapons in this conflict. john, good to see you, my friend. we will talk to you later. >> thanks, mate. and we are monitoring a

breaking story out of jerusalem, where clashes have broken out in an area considered a holy site by both jews and muslims. it happened during friday prayer prayers at the mosque. hadas gold is near the area, she joins me now live with more. brings up to date on -- on what's happened, hadas. >> so, michael, i am right now at the damascus gate, one of the entries to the city for muslim worshippers to reach the temple mount. and actually, as we speak right now, there is an increased security presence here likely in response to earlier clashes we have been witnessing police putting up barriers to the entrance ask it seems right now they are not letting young men through. this is something we saw earlier are they were only allowing women ask older people to go through but not young men. this is actually a very interesting day to begin with before these clashes because not

only is it ramadan, it is always good friday and beginning of passover tonight. so tensions were already high but what happened is around 5:00 a.m., this morning, we were actually right near the compound and you started hearing booms, firecrackers going off and what we know is there were clashes between worshippers and israeli police. the israel i police say they wee responding to people throwing stones, throwing fireworks and in response, the palestinians say stun grenades and rubber bullets were fired. we know at least 90 people have been injured. israeli police say three of their officers werer injured and it's very possible, michael, these clashes here are going to spread into a wider conflict because keep in mind, it was similar clashes, like these at the compound last year, that helped spark that 11-day war between mill titants in gaza an israel and i should note tensions had already opinion high.

the israel kri military increased operations in the west bank in response to a series of terror attacks in israel that killed 14 people. but another thing that likely sparked these clashes today were threats in the last few days by some jewish extremists who threatened to go up to the temple mount, and do an anxious passover ritual sacrifice. as far as we know, they didn't make it up but hamas, militant groups had called on supporters to defend the compound. we saw those clashes this morning. things continue to be tense as we speak right now. just here, even outside of the old city dpits, so of course the question will be what will happen as the day progresses? and whether and if and how hamas and and gaza will respond? >> hadas gold outside damascus gate, thanks so much. fighting in ukraine has forced thousands of members of europe's larmgest ethnic minority to flee. after the break, kr some say they are not being treated like other displaced ukrainians in poland.

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u.n. officials are calling for the safe passage of civilians following the killing of two aide workers and their families in mariupol. they were killed when a tank allegedly opened fire on the office of the nongovernment organization last month. cnn has not been able to independently confirm reports of that incident. now, the refugee situation in ukraine is becoming more desperate, as russia steps up its attacks. more than 4.7 million people have fled the country since the fighting started, and more than 7 million are internally displaced within ukraine. on thursday, nine humanitarian corridors were agreed upon. ukrainian authorities say more than 2,500 people were evacuate. now, getting out of ukraine safely is one thing. what happens after that, a whole new set of problems. thousands of ukrainian refugees are arriving in eastern europe, daily. many of them have nothing, and need everything, like permanent

housing and jobs but those basics are in short supply. >> fewer and fewer people are offering accommodation for refugees. it is a problem because we have nowhere. we can house people. a lot of people arrived very quickly, and we still don't have places for them to stay long-term. as the need for aid increases, and resources grow scarce, ukraine's roma refugees are feeling the strain acutely. displaced members of that community say they are receiving very different treatment in poland than other ukrainians. cnn's kyung lah with that. >> reporter: since late february when they fled ukraine, this has been life for these refugees in poland. you are just moving from shelter to shelter? yes, she says, who fled a town near lviv, ukraine, where her husband fights in the war.

she says her children have watched, as other refugees moved out of shelters into polish host homes and apartments. is there a difference with how others are being treated, compared to your family? a big difference, she says, the help goes to ukrainians with clothes, food, even when it comes to our children. roma people are treated like, i don't know what, she says. to be clear, these families are all ukrainian but they're not considered white. they're roma -- europe's largest ethnic minority. among the millions of ukrainians fleeing the war, the european commission estimates 100,000 are roma. most of them say roma nonprofit groups are in poland. >> ha do you see happening here when it comes to roma people? >> big problem. big problem. people -- polish people know -- >> he is a volunteer for a roma relief group in poland.

on this day, he is going shelter to shelter picking up roma families. >> this is racism. >> it is very open racist. >> reporter: she runs the group helping roma refugees. >> nobody wants to take them from different cities, from refugee shelters, from volunteers. >> across poland? >> across poland. forget that you are able to render partner for those people, it is impossible even if you have money. >> reporter: she found three houses in poland that they can rent for these exhausted families. but the daughter fell asleep immediately once she was on the bus. how hard as has all of this been on all the children here? it was hard in the shelter, she says. bury before they finally head to this house, the volunteers stop at another shelter and pick up someone who barely escaped russian missiles in her suburb outside of kyiv. she has also been in shelters for the last month. with all your children and

you're pregnant? >> yeah. >> reporter: seven months pregnant. traveling with 3-year-old twins and her 8-year-old. the roma volunteers say roma families are often larger, creating a different housing challenge in this crisis. but these ukrainians, just like their fellow refugees, have husbands fighting in the war and children they are trying to protect. >> i thought that during the war, you know, during this terrible circumstances, we need to help all refugees. i never thought we would have racist during the war and it was naive. it was very, very naive. >> reporter: cnn has reached out to the european commission and multiple levels of the polish government. we did hear back from local provincial office here in warsaw, that said it had not received any complaints from the roma community. but that any complaints would be investigated. now, eu representatives have said that they visited poland and other border countries in

early march, and that, quote, it did not witness any incidents of discrimination or racism. kyung lah, cnn, warsaw, poland. >> cnn did hear back from the polish interior ministry after our deadline for that story, and they claim they are, quote, in constant contact with representatives of roma organizations. a renewed russian' offensive in ukraine could be just days away. coming up, we will take you to a town at the very edge of the government's control in eastern ukraine. stay with us. we'll be right back. newfound happiness and zezero surprises. anand all of us will stop at nothing to drive you happy. we'll drive you happy at carvana.

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welcome back, everyone. 30 minutes past the hour. i am john vause live in lviv, ukraine. here is the latest headline frs this war by the russians here in ukraine. u.s. defense officials say russian troops, which retreated from northern ukraine two weeks ago, are now arriving in the donbas region. but the russians are running up against fierce resistance as they try to advance. ukrainian special forces claim they blew up this bridge near kharkiv as an armored russian column was crossing. and even russia's naval might is being challenged. moscow now admits its flagship vessel, the moskva, sank in the black sea after catching fire. ukrainian fighters claim they hit the cruiser with anti-ship

missiles, a claim u.s. and western intelligence believe to be credible. moscow is widely expected to launch a three-pronged attack to try and capture a decent section of the eastern ukraine territory. cnn's ben wedeman visited one town that is likely to be in the direct path of any assault. >> reporter: denise loads food in his car for a delivery run. the supplies sorted by volunteers in this old warehouse were donated from around ukraine and abroad. denise was a musician before the war. it's the city furthest east under ukrainian government control. and under constant bombardment from russian forces nearby. the supplies denise ask other volunteers deliver are what keep this city alive.

two missiles landed outside nadia's decrepit soviet-era apartment building. the strain of living under the shelling, more than she can take. it's hard, she says, i can't stay in this room. i'm so afraid, i want it to be quiet and calm again. with russian forces massing in the east, there will be no quiet. there will be no calm. sitting on a hospital bed, she recounts the night her house was hit. i was in the kitchen and it started, she says. her home is now in ruins. more than 20 corpses lie scattered in the hospital's morgue, wrapped in sheets and blankets awaiting burial. on the outskirts of the city, more evidence of the toll war

has taken. this is a hastily-dug graveyard that was started since the war began. just look at the dates. 7th of april, 9th of april, 3rd of april, 4th of april. it goes on and on and on. and more graves will, soon, be filled. ben wedeman, cnn, donetsk, ian ukraine. some of russia's oligarchs are now paying dearly for vladimir putin's war of choice. earlier-this week, germany impounded the world's largest yacht. you can see it here in german custody. yes, it's somewhere there, under that great, big tarp. investigators say the yacht, around $600 million, belongs to the sister of oligarch and putin ally. the other oligarch who is losing his assets right now is this man -- the putin ally was

detained earlier this week in what ukraine's president called a special operation. sources told cnn that putin's invasion is not evidence of any wrongdoing. ukrainian courts seized many of his assets, including 26 cars, 30 plots of land, 23 houses, 23 apartments, and of course a superyacht. meanwhile, vladimir putin has a message for western powers trying to wean themselves away from russian energy. go for it because plenty of other countries would like to buy russian oil and gas. cnn's claire sebastian has details. >> reporter: well, putin's message, clearly designed for a domestic, as well as international audience, was that russia doesn't need the west to buy its energy but the west can't get by without russia. he said that attempts by western countries to replace russian energy imports will impact the entire global economy, and reduce the competitiveness of those countries. as for russia, he laid out several objectives to strengthen

the enner psergy sector. among them, to prepare for a future where the west may no longer be such an important market. >> translator: we need to diversify our exports. we need to assume that, in the foreseeable future, deliveries of energy in the western direction will be reduced so we need to strengthen the tendency of the last few years, step by step, reorientate our exports to the fast-growing markets of the south and east. >> there are signs this has already started happening. analysts say india's purchases of russian oil have increased by a lot since the start of the war in ukraine. but since oecd europe currently buys about 60% of russian exports, reorientating those won't be easy and it is not yet clear how quickly russia will have to do this. discussions among eu ministers on a potential sixth package of sanctions started this week. one that could include some kind of restriction or embargo on russian oil but as yet, the eu is still divided on this issue.

and there is the more immediate issue of russia's demand countries pay for gas in rubles. netherlands joining several other european countries today in saying it would not be doing this. warning energy companies this would violate eu sanctions on russia. president putin, making it clear russia hasn't changed its stance, and it still intends to gradually move away from dollars and euros for its energy payments. claire sebastian, cnn, london. short break here on cnn. when we come back, the latest in new york subway's attack and the suspect's first appearance in court after our official break. you are watching cnn.

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attack was entirely premeditated. detailing a vast stockpile of weapons and ammunition. cnn's shimon prokupecz with the details. >> reporter: the new york subway shooting suspect in federal court today for the first time. frank james, facing a terrorism-related charge after authorities say he opened fire more than 30 times in a crowded subway car did not enter a plea. his attorneys say it is too soon to jump to conclusions. >> we are all still learning about what happened on that train, and we caution against a rush to judgment. >> reporter: making a case for james' actions just before his arrest. his lawyer says james called a tip line himself to report his location. >> yesterday, mr. james saw his photograph on the news. he called crime-stoppers to help. he told them where he was.

initial press and police reports in cases like this one are often inaccurate. mr. james is entitled to a fair trial, and we will ensure that he receives one. >> reporter: the 62-year-old james was taken into custody without incident. denied bond, federal prosecutors argue that james should stay behind bars pending trial. saying, tuesday's attack, where ten people were shot and a dozen others were injured, was premeditated by james. prosecutors detailed james's planning in a letter to the judge, saying, quote, the defendant came to brooklyn prepared with all the weapons and tools he needed to carry out the mass attack, including a glock pistol, gasoline, torch, and fireworks. making the case that james posed a danger to the community. >> that's the guy. that's what the police report

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the death toll from flooding in south africa rose on thursday amid-warnings that more rain is on the way. officials say at least 341 people have been killed. more than 40,000 impacted after the storms dumped several months worth of rain on eastern coastal areas. local authorities call the damage to infrastructure and human life, unprecedented. after a brief respite on thursday, more rain is expected through the weekend. as a cold front stalls over the region. elon musk twitters biggest investor and biggest critic. and now he wants to buy all of it. the billionaire says twitter isn't living up to what he sees as free speech principles. so he wants to take it private.

he's offered $54 per share. that values the company at $41 billion. i spoke with josh who invests in social app start ups about what changes elon musk might make. >> he's a big free speech advocate. spree speech means different things to different people. allowing the kind of bullying and hate speech he's often said is really okay with him, actually silences other users on this web site like twitter. it could be a problem and he says test free speech it can make it speech harder for vulnerable individuals. he also says he wants to open source the alga rhythm. there's a problem. the spammers and people who are trying to game the system would have the rule book for how to exploit twitter. and he want to add an edit button and productions to make sure you can't see trying to say

something and make other people look like they're retweeting something and change what they say. some of his suggestions are out landish. and the most worrisome ones focus around free speech and whether it can make twitter a hateful place. after years of criticism it already is full of hate speech. >> let's focus on that. first let's play sound from an interview he did on thursday. let's have a listen to that. >> a good sign as to whether there's free speech is is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? if that is the case, then we have free speech. it's down annoying when someone you don't like says something you don't like. that's a sign of a healthy functioning, free speech situation. >> as we all know there's the fine line. between all out free speech and enabling misinformation. and propaganda.

he's been criticized for trying to silence his own critics. even including his work force. and having those quote free speech decisions essentially in the hands of one man can be potentially problematic. he's deciding. >> he is the richest man in the world and incredibly privileged in every way. if something he says he doesn't like could be dangerous for threatening to somebody with a lot less privilege to him. so i think that's why there's a big rub here. for some people, if you are just getting criticized but you have all the money in the world you don't care. if you are in a vulnerable mental state and have people being free to say whatever they want including making death threats or horrible things about them, and not being worried about getting banned because he thinks people should have time outs instead of bans. it could make it a really offensive and mentally damaging place for a lot of people in the world to spend time. i think that's going to be the

big reason twitter's board tries to resist this. and say this would be bad for safety. >> also, does taking a company private like twitter reduce over sight from regulators like the fcc? >> absolutely. twitter wouldn't have to make the same kind of quarterly statements about the progress, it would be less -- the whims of public investor sentiment and be able to do what it wants as long as private investors still have faith in it and enough money to operate. with elon behind it they would have infinite resources. the problem is really whether this would be good for people and whether the twitter board who might be kicked out. the new ceo only came in in november, he could see himself thrown out and other executives may protest if elon takes control of twitter. they could also have a staffing issue on their hands and that's one of the biggest ways that

tech employees have been able to influence policy, it's not because the users protest, it's because the employees do. they walk out, everything grinds to a halt. >> great point. thanks so much. appreciate it. now nato, nasa latest attempt at a prelaunch test for its huge moon rocket hit snags on thursday. the mission team had been trying to fuel its rocket when they discovered a leak. you can't have that. nasa says they had to stop the count down test and will assess the next steps. they add the rocket remains stable and in a safe configuration as they put it. this was the third shot at a dress rehearsal. ahead of a test flight to the moon. thanks for spending part of your day with me. i'm michael holmes in atlanta. we'll go back to john vause live in ukraine in a moment. and taking it over from me in atlanta.

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