ago she then urged people to give biden time. >> just be patient, like it's coming. everything doesn't happen overnight. folks know that. >> reporter: now she adds this caveat. >> patient but just frustrated. just would like to get the relief we need so we can start operating how we used to. >> reporter: jeff zeleny, cnn, atlanta. >> and thank you for joining us tonight. ac 360 starts now. good evening. in the capitol of kyiv today in ukraine residents were seen at markets buying food, preparing the easter holiday meals and bringing families and communities together. it's also a time to gather and celebrate the hope of salvation. >> translator: the 58th day of our defense is coming to an end. it ends on good friday, one of the most sorrowful day of the year for christians.

the day when death seems to have won, but we hope for a resurrection. we believe in the victory of life over death, and we pray that death loses. >> president zelenskyy said that life is beginning to return to normal in the liberated areas of ukraine. but life returning also means images like this. we've just been able to confirm the details of this video. it's a makeshift grave for a mother and her son. the video shows two-plywood crosses on a grave with two names. marina and ivan. both died march 5th. and in the neighboring town new satellite images detail the sheer destruction wrought by the russian forces. these drone images are extraordinary. block after block of ruined lives, destroyed homes. it's said to have suffered the brunt of a weeks long fire fight but is now free from the imminent threat of russian forces. same cannot be said for other

kwlairs of the country. today a russian general speaking on state television in comments picked up across the world made a sweeping statement about russia looking to establish, quote, full control of southern portions of of ucrin. that would include cities like odesa and mykolaiv. the area from eastern ukraine to a separatist region where russia already has forces. again, these words were not from vladimir putin or his defense minister, the general now overseeing the entire war in ukraine. according to "the new york times" it's a relatively obscure military figure. that's what the times is phrasing and his job traditionally involves organizing political propaganda. we should also point out these claims come on the very day that russia provided more information on the sinking of their black sea flagship. now, they say only one member of the crew died. they say 27 are missing and that 396 people were evacuated. we don't know whether those numbers are correct.

we do know they still claim that rough seas and a fire onboard sank the ship. ukrainian forces say they struck the ship with missiles, a view the u.s. believes is credible. as we examine the claims of that russian general and frankly any russian officials it's worth examining the assessment how well russians are conducting themselves in the east. >> reporter: we continue to see them try to address their integration of air and ground forces which was dismal in the early weeks of this campaign. they appear to be trying to fix that integration going forward, but, again we wouldn't assess they've solved all their problems. >> this is all to say any russian claim needs to be heavily and carefully examined. what we do know is this. intense fighting is still ongoing in the east where evacuations are perilous. one ukrainian official says, quote, the russians do not allow us to save the civilians. and around mariupol continued air strikes as ukrainian defenders are still trapped

vunded in a massive steel plant. this is easter weekend in ukraine. ed lavendera in one recently liberated ukrainian town and the horrors its residents witnessed. >> reporter: war stopped time here. bombs and artillery scorch this village in northern ukrain. russian occupation ravaged the minds of its people. the story of what happened here is just emerging revealing how the russian army held this village hostage for more than 30 days. sophia shows us the underground bunker in her shed where she first hid from the fighting. she says she had food stored here that the russians ate. this is where she slept. sophia says russian soldiers went door-to-door rounding people up and taking them at gunpoint into the basement of the village school. sophia tells us that when the

russian soldiers moved them all into the basement of the school building that they were put down there and that the soldiers told them they were being put in the basement to die. a woman named natalie took us into the basement where she was trapped. i was in a stupor, natalie tells me, i was just sitting there, praying, hoping it would all stop soon. residents tell us there were about 350 people held hostage in the basement of this school building. men, women and children forced to live in these horrific conditions. in fact, it was so strangulating, there was so little air circulation that one resident told us that 12 elderly people died here because they couldn't breathe. and their bodies were left while the fighting raged outside. these are some of the only known images captured in the school's basement. the faces say it all. she's telling me that about 35

people slept in this small room. nobody could lay down. they slept kind of sitting with their knees up against their chest. the rooms are littered with makeshift beds, school bucks and russian troop meal boxes, but it's the art on the walls that stops you in your tracks. this is how the children passed the time. colorful drawings on a canvas of anguish. the people who were trapped down here etched names onto this concrete wall. they marked the days with a calender crossing out the days as they went by. everything down here has the feel of a world war ii era concentration camp. above the basement russian soldiers took over the school building. residents say they were used as human shields. they knew the ukrainian military wouldn't fire at the school with civilians inside. grabbing food from a humanitarian delivery truck and takes us to her home. russian soldiers threw grenades

through her windows and defecated on the house floors. she was also held hostage in the school basement with her 1-year-old daughter. did you think you were going to survive that? i thought my child would not survive, she tells me. i asked them to let me out so the child could be breathe fresh air because she felt bad. they said let her die, we don't care. sophia, how did you feel when you got out of the basement of the school? she says one of the villagers opened the basement door and said the russians left. the trapped villagers were surprised. in the morning our guys entered the village, she said. we cried, we hugged them and cried. what will you tell your daughter about this experience? nothing, she says. her daughter will not remember it, and she will tell her nothing. >> ed lavandera joins us now. i mean, can you talk about the challenge people are facing now, i mean as they're trying to live? how are they able to eat?

how are they able to -- is there electricity in that area? >> reporter: every problem at every corner, and it's really kind of hard as we were walking around that village today to really capture the scope and magnitude of just how much everything is destroyed. and then on top of that, anderson, just the infrastructure you're talking about electricity, power, everything is just dismantled. and then they have to deal with land mines. you saw there in one shot of the piece the stockpiled weaponry on the ground there. the residents there believe that the russians had buried several people if not many more who were killed in the fighting there in the woods around that village. they can't get to those areas because of the concern about land mines, but every aspect of life there has been turned upside down. i asked one woman what will

happen of this vil lage. she didn't think it would survive. >> we mentioned fighting ongoing at the besieged port city of mariupol. today residents fortunate to escape told cnn about some of their experiences. >> reporter: so many should have bip evacuated but the russians kept shelling. they are not human beings. i don't know who gave birth to them. horrific. we were just thinking about our survival. i don't know how i'm going to tell my son about such terrifying events. >> joined now by retired u.s. army brigadier general pierce. i appreciate you joining us. when you hear the stories of how the russians behaved in the areas that they occupy, how does that comport with what any modern day military, how they should behave in an occupied area? >> it's beyond all ethics,

mores, principles with violations of criminal conduct as we would say on our own side, war crimes. it's gone vicious, and war is always vicious, anderson. and you've covered it a lot over the years, but this is -- this is a -- this is a fight right now, an existential fight for both ukraine who's fighting for its very existence and now for the putin regime. and they're going to continue to push forces in. it's fought over the tops of villages and towns and cities. so there's an unbelievable civilian cull and they're caught in it. you get war rage, partisans, militias. you have vautner group that are

violent and it's ugly. i don't know how long it will take -- >> earlier we heard from admiral john kirby from the pentagon talking about whether russian forces have been able to fix the issues that they were facing within their own logistical supply, within their own coordination supply between ground operations and air operations. do you think -- and it seems like it remains to be seen whether they have been able to in this now new offensive in the donbas area. do you think it's an army that is capable of fixing those kind of problems in this amount of time? >> these are fundamental military and organizational issues that normally takes months to train and enforce. the russians are having to slap together a core force with

mangled forces coming out of kyiv and that have already been. there is is significant morale problem, and how do you factor in what is will the fight, what is spirit which is something the ukrainians have in abundance. and i think the russian troops in many ways are being pushed into it and fighting for their lives. but there's also a blood lust for the reasons i talked before. logistics of trying to bring them in but the whole battalion tactical group. structure is light on logistics. the russians have got courses from four different military districts across the country, and they're trying to put that all together with a new general. it's hard. it would take months normally to do this. a lot of these troops already have combat fatigue, early signs of ptsd on both sides. but it is really playing hard on the russians. >> you know -- >> an enormous leadership problem. >> david from "the new yorker"

was on last night. i think it was he who said and i might be wrong. he said even an army that is incompetent -- an army may be incompetent, but if they don't -- if the commanders don't care about their own troops and don't care about civilians in the areas that they're fighting in even an incompetent army can wreak huge havoc i mean if they are well-armed and just have artillery and tanks and have no compunction about having their own troops killed or killing anybody down rank. >> yes. i think we've seen numerous examples of just absolute loss of control of formations, discipline that starts from the bottom up not the top down. and i think that there's a shock going on out there, and the russians for all the reasons

we've stated it's gone into aspects of blood lust. we've been hearing and reading about intercepts in all that. and again, the horror that's like the second world war in this region is fought over these villages. and of course the villages are fighting. you've got the ukrainian fighting spirit, but of course at that time now the villagers also become targets because they're seen as the enemy by the occupying force. and it's hard all around. >> retired brigadier general i appreciate it. still to come the mystery two former russian executives along with members of their families. two families, similar deaths looking for answers. nic robertson will have the latest ahead. and republican congresswoman marjory taylor green testifying for three hours about what she could and what she often could not remember about events surrounding january 6th and challengers hoping to prprevent

her re-election campaign. we'll see hohow that will go ahead.

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want to tell you about a mystery now, one that may or may not have a connection to the war in ukraine in reports most recently bloomberg of russian elites dissatisfied with vladimir putin's war. all we know are two former russian gas executives and members of their families died in two separate countries in 24 hours. and investigators are trying to understand if they're connected and figure out exactly what happened. neck robertson has details. >> reporter: coincidence or kremlin revenge? 55-year-old sergei and his wife and daughter found dead in their home in spain on tuesday. and a 51-year-old former vp and his wife and daughter found dead in their moskow apartment monday. russia's state news agency says moskow police are investigating the deaths of the family as a

murder-suicide tantamount to saying nothing suspicious here. spanish police are now guarding his luxury house north of barcelona. an official source close to the investigation says the bodies of his wife and daughter, which showed signs of violence, were found inside the home. and his body was found outside in the garden. the neighbors describe them as wealthy but often traveling. >> translator: he had nice cars. i thought they were romanian from what i understood, and besides you could see they were people with money. >> reporter: the investigative source says spanish police have sealed their probe into the deaths. no leaks that might prejudge their case. two different investigations, two very different jurisdictions. historically spain's judiciary

significantly more transparent than russia's. russia's investigators releasing this ultrashort 4-second video of the crime scene inside the apartment. the family's employees reportedly alerted a relative the parents and daughter weren't answering calls from within their locked apartment. police found all three dead from gunshot wounds. suspicious deaths of russians overseas and at home are nothing new. former russian spy alexander poisoned and killed in london 2006. a british coroner questioned the apparent suicide in his locked bathroom of oligarch and kremlin critic boris borizski near london 2013. 2018 the attempted murder by a deadly russian nerve agent.

so too in russia putin critic alexei navalny poisoned, nearly killed in 2020. there is no evidence they were putin critics. there is evidence, however, that despite kremlin demands for loyalty among the elite some previously silent putin allies are coming out against him. today as putin's war polarizes russians for and against, suspicions of shady kremlin killings will likely linger long after moskow's investigators close the case. nic robertson, cnn, brussels. >> you heard nic mention alexi navalny. he was the subject of a fascinating new documentary premiering sunday # p.m9:00 p.m

eastern on cnn. what was it about navalny's story that drew you? >> first and foremost thank you for having me on the program tonight. when i first met alexei, this is a man who had just survived an assassination attempt. he was poisoned with a soviet nerve agent as your intro indicated and he happens to be an incredible character, an amazing guy. and, you know, i just understood this would make an incredible documentary. >> i understand you were actually there and your crews were there when navalny tracked down the would-be assassins. >> that's right, we started making this film as a murder mystery. a team of investigative reporters who were working with alexei to piece together, forensically piece together this map, the movements of this fsb assassins who followed alexei to

siberia and tried to poison him with novichok. it was extraordinary to witness this investigation unfold in realtime in front of our cameras. >> how do you think navalny's story -- and he's in prison now. how do you think navalny's story helps inform the world about vladimir putin? >> i think our film is a canary in the coal mine of sorts. the horrors we're seeing play out in ukraine today, the war crimes that are being committed every single day. the weaponization of information, a disinformation industry that vladimir putin and his thugs are pedaling, that's all in our film. our film is sort of a micro look at this whole dichotomy. and what i really hope when people watch the film is that they remember vladimir putin is not russia and russia is not vladimir putin. what alexei navalny offers is an alternate vision for what russia could one day be. >> he obviously has not seen the film i assume, right? this wasn't finished while --

he's been in prison for a while now. >> they don't get cnn but i understand he's been reading all had reviews and trying his very best to stay informed about what's going on with the film. >> it's just remarkable. what do you think -- yeah, i mean who knows how long he'll be away. they can continually -- obviously the justice system there is in the control of the security services and the authorities. daniel, i really appreciate it. the film airs 9:00 p.m. on cnn. it's fascinating. we'll have more on the ukraine later. coming up next the details in congresswoman marjory taylor green's hours long testimony in court. challengers trying to prevent her bid for re-election for her conduct related to the january 6th riot.

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well, more on the war in ukraine later in the broadcast. we want to switch now to the latest of events surrounding the january 6th investigation. marjory taylor green testified in court for more than three hours in court today. randy kaye has more. >> reporter: republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene defending her alleged role in the january 6th riot. >> prior to january 6, 2021, had

you heard people were planning to enter the capitol building illegally in order to disrupt the electoral count process? >> no, absolutely not. i don't know anything about that. >> reporter: true to form greene was combative from the start. early on greenu was asked if she was aware of any effort to interfere with the electoral vote count. >> i had no knowledge of any attempt, and so that's a question that i can't answer. >> can i ask the court to acknowledge this is an adverse witness, a hostile witness? >> reporter: greene strongly defended various tweets she was confronted with leading up to january 6th saying she was only encouraging a peaceful march. >> the word peaceful is nowhere in this tweet, right? have a look. that word peaceful is not in this tweet. >> i can't read it. >> i'm asking -- there's not a secret code in there that's supposed to be peaceful, right? >> i never mean anything for violence. i don't support violence of any kind. >> reporter: on the stand greene offered up the long debunked

claim that joe biden lost the election which has become a rallying cry for trump supporters. >> you believed joe biden had lost the election to mr. trump, right? >> well, yes. we saw tremendous amount of voter fraud. >> reporter: throughout the day greene frustrated lawyers on the opposing side with lots of this. >> i don't. i do not remember. sorry, i don't remember. i don't remember. i don't recall. >> reporter: at one point she said he didn't recall opposing the peaceful transfer of power to biden. the challengers followed up with a video showing her saying exactly that. lawyers also moved to show greene used social media posts leading up to january 6th that alluded to violence. >> did you like a post that said "it's quicker that a bullet to the head would be a quicker way to remove nancy pelosi from the role of speaker? >> i have no idea who liked that. >> reporter: and when greene was asked if she knew who was

attacking the capitol she falsely blamed left leaning groups like blm and antifa. >> did you know at that time who was attacking the capitol? >> no, i didn't know. we mostly thought it was antifa dressed up as trump supporters. >> reporter: before it was over greene and her lawyer hammered this point home. >> were you a victim of the attack? >> yes, i was. i was in the house chamber when it happened. i had to be evacuated to safety. yes, i was a victim of the riot that day. >> reporter: victim or not marjorie taylor greene's future on the ballot is yet to be decided. randy kaye, cnn. >> let's get some perspective now on the congresswoman's testimony from jeffrey toobin, cnn chief legal analyst and former prosecutor joins us. and david axelrod. jeff, given everything laid out do you think the case brought against greene would be successful? >> no, i don't.

i think this is an embarrassment for congresswoman greene, but i think it's extremely remote she'll be barred from congress. this is deeply obscure provision of the constitution designed to keep confederate veterans out of -- out of office. i don't think there is basically any way she will be found to have violated this provision of the constitution and kept out of office. >> david, does this just help her with her base? >> yeah, i totally agree with jeff's analysis except for one point. he calls it an embarrassment to her. and perhaps it is to some, but for her it's an embarrassment of riches. this only strengthens her with her base. she will play the victim, and she will end up on top because they will -- they will dismiss this case. and meanwhile she'll raise a ton of money off of it, which is what she's been doing from the beginning. she's one of the most prolific fund raisers in the republican

party because her antics are rewarded time and again. and i don't think this is going to be any different. >> jeff, depending on how the judge decides this case, could there be any legal precedent set for the future or is it so obscure it doesn't -- >> well, there could be. you know, no one exactly knows what the words of the constitution mean here. engage in an insurrection. both words are not defined, and they are subject to many different definitions, but i think it's important to point out there are two principles that argue against throwing out congresswoman greene. the first is freedom of speech, the first amendment. you know, the first amendment allows people to be reckless and irresponsible. that's part of what's protected. and the second is democracy. you know, if she's a terrible congresswoman her constituents have the right to throw her out every two years. and that principle is a very important one that we have

voters decide who's in congress not judges and bureaucrats. >> david, do you have a sense of her popularity amongst her constituents? you know, fund-raising that can be nationwide, and she makes headlines and appears in a lot of places. do you know how she does in her district? >> my sense is she is in a very strong position in her district. i don't think she's expected to lose a primary. and if you win a primary in that district it's so heavily republican you're not going to lose your seat. let me just say, anderson, if i can i agree with everything jeffrey said. i am not a fan of marjorie taylor greene. i'm an even less of a fan of insurrection because i'm a big fan of democracy. and so i think we ought to be very, very careful about, you know, stepping on these fundamental principles of democracy even as repugnant as some of her statements and actions have been. >> david axelrod, jeffrey toobin, appreciate it. thank you. up next house minority

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when we reported this next story last night there was an allegation and an outright denial. the allegation was reporting from journalists who were on last night's program quoting

their new book that house minority leader kevin mccarthy in the days after the january 6th insurrection said in a karchs call to his caucus he was going to suggest the president resign. the denial was from leader mccarthy who in a statement claimed he never said that and attacked the professionalism of the reporters in the process. the reporters stood by their story and about 30 minutes after our interview showed why. they released the interview that mccarthy said did not exist. >> a discussion i did have with him is that i think this will pass and it would be my recommendation you should resign. >> this morning they released more from the same conference call of the minority leader saying he told the former president he bore responsibility for the attack and that the former president agreed. listen. >> but let me be very clear to all of you, and i've been very clear to the president. he bears responsibilities for his words and actions, no if, ands or buts. i asked him personally today

does he hold responsibility for what happened, does he feel bad about what happened? he told me he does have some responsibility for what happened. and he needs to acknowledge that. >> congressman mckrgty, of course, has made no secret of his designs of assuming the role of speaker of the house should republicans take control of it later this year. the question tonight is will he, can he? will the republican conference still bebeholden to the former president standby the house leader who partly blamed the former president for attacks not to mention not being up front about it. joining me now cnn political commentator charlie dent. good to see you. we just learned the president spoke to "the wall street journal" and quote, he made the call, i heard the call, i didn't like the call. but almost immediately as you know because he came here and took a picture right there, you know, the support was very strong, unquote. how do you interpret that? do you think mccarthy would be able to stay in the former president's good graces?

>> well, apparently he's in the president's good graces for the moment, but as we all know president trump likes to exercise leverage, and he has leverage over kevin mccarthy right now. kevin mccarthy and the republicans had donald trump down on the mat really after january 6th and they let him off by going down to mar-a-lago and making up. i always believed a lot of the reason why they kissed and made up was because they used donald trump for fund-raising purposes. they're always raising money off his name. so trump's name has become almost synonymous with the gop at the moment, and they need him for this money, and they're raising gobs -- you know, just incredible sums of money right now. so i think that's not a small part of this. privately kevin mccarthy i believe what he said that he should resign and the president bore responsibility, but the public statements are quite different. and what's really sad about this kevin mccarthy and liz cheney were largely aligned on the

issue of donald trump after the january 6th. but liz chinny said the quiet part out lud repeatedly and she's been punished for it, and now kevin has got some explaining to do. we'll see if donald trump stays with him in the long-term. as you know he can turn on him on a dime. >> the former president also told "the wall street journal" he thought of it as a big compliment because, quote, they realized they were wrong and supported me. and the president -- did you believe they realized they were wrong. and r or did they "a" want him for fund raising and did they hear from the folks in their districts and their base saying we still like trump? >> no, i don't think any of those members -- look, these members privately, many of these republican members certainly more of the establishment oriented members they find trump to be an embarrassment, a disgrace. they dislike him. they want nothing to do with him. those their private views. publicly, obviously, it's quite another matter.

so i don't think anybody thinks they were wrong for condemning donald trump, but, again, i think they're really more worried about not losing favor with trump and more importantly the base of the party much of which is still closely aligned with donald trump. but we should remember, anderson, that donald trump is a diminishing figure. now, that said he is still a dangerous figure, and he can cause a lot of damage for many of these republicans and their primaries. and they all know that, and we have to keep remembering that, you know, donald trump lost in 2020 while republicans down ballot did extraordinarily well. so it never made sense to me why would they continue to, you know, try to latch themselves onto a sinking ship. and it's only because they only have to worry about a primary. >> charlie, always good to talk to you. appreciate your time tonight. up next more on the war in ukraine. we'll talk to an actor who took the brave journey to poland and

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according to the u.n. more than 5 million people have fled ukraine since russia began their invasion with more than 7 million internally displaced in the country. since the start of the war poland has seen the largest amount of refugees pour over the borders with the latest u.n. data showing nearly 3 million ukrainians have escaped to poland. earlier i spoke actor, director, screen writer and producer who cofounded a group called blue check ukraine to help vet and support ukrainian aid groups on the ground. he also recently returned from poland to ukraine where he was aiding humanitarian efforts. thanks so much for being with us. i love the idea which you cofounded because when you're in a place where so much is

happening there's so many great, you know, individuals, small organizations that don't get the attention that they should but are doing really important human work on a very human level, and that's what blue check ukraine is all about. how did you -- how how did you approach it? >> i have a group of friends who are fortunately much more experienced in humanitarian relief than i am. the idea of the blue check program, like in the social media you have some system of verification so you know who you are talking to is who they say they are, and the money people are spending goes where it needs to go. >> have you ever been in a situation like the one you saw in ukraine and poland? >> no, i haven't. it was extraordinary. i think obviously the big take away for me -- and i know that you're familiar with this as well because you've been there -- is the resilience and the courage of the ukrainian

people. obviously also the compassion and the generosity of the poles as well. but i really didn't expect it to feel that defiant and that alive, which was really -- which was really quite encouraging. >> you worked with world central kitchen, which we've done a lot of reporting on over the years. you were there for the start of passover and easter. what was that like? >> it's fantastic. i mean, it really is an extraordinary thing that jose andres is doing. a lot of these people, as you know, have been walking for miles and miles, women and children, and they cross the border. and for them to be provided a warm, delicious meal -- and i know because i helped prepare a lot of them and ate more of them -- is really an extraordinary thing, to get a smile from somebody and a warm

bowl of borscht. >> that's a giant bowl of borscht. >> i understand you met someone called the ukrainian radon van. >> i call him the ukrainian ray donovan. this is an extraordinary man and his wife who work in conjunction with an american charity called kid save. and kid save had initially set out to try to rescue 117 of their kid save orphans. but then they started to work with this guy pavlo. and pavlo, between when the war started and now, has sort of -- with him and his wife and their group -- have rescued i think something like over 10,000 displaced women and children. and this was a very sort of stoic guy, kind of the real ray donovan in many respects, didn't get emotional about

anything he was saying to me until he told me a story about a kid in culver city who held a bake sale and baked dog biscuits to send the money to pavlo and sent pavlo $160. and when pavlo told me that story, he just -- he broke into tears. and it was -- it was incredibly moving to me that that's the part that touched him after everything that he'd seen, the getting help from america, knowing that we felt connected was probably the most powerful thing for him. >> your mom's dad is ukrainian, if i'm not mistaken. >> yeah. >> i don't know if you'd spent time there before, but was it -- did it feel personal in some way to you? did that impact you in any way? >> yeah, it feels really personal to me. but i -- you know, i think that's distinctly american. you know what i mean? i love to think of us as a nation of grandchildren,

english, african, chinese, in my case ukrainian and polish. but that's who we are. and i think if there's any silver lining in the violence that putin has visited on ukraine and by proxy the rest of the world, it's the idea that when this war started, i think our country felt conflicted, polarized. i think the biggest mistake putin made was that i do feel like he's united us a little bit, that he's reminded all of us what it is to be american, that how close we are to that, that our grandparents escaped that tyranny and came here to a country where we feel an obligation to defend those liberties and opportunities that our democracy provides. so, i'm not only really proud to be of ukrainian heritage right now, i'm also pretty proud to be an american. what i'm experiencing is this sort of ground swell of support from americans for ukraine. and if they would like to help,

please go to usukraine.org/bluecheck and donate. i guarantee you it will go to someone who needs it. >> yeah, and it's a lot of smaller organizations which are highlighted by blue check ukraine that don't necessarily get the attention larger ones do. so, it's important to give. >> that was a big part of our mission, to try and identify and hopefully preferably ukrainians who are doing the work on the ground. you know, this lviv symphony is just extraordinary. the woman who runs that, i was just so impressed with her. >> you went to the lviv symphony. they're playing -- >> yeah, they're playing mozart's requiem. but what's so extraordinary about this foot is that there's no seats in the concert hall. and it's up to your ears with boxes of medical aid and medicine and food. and so they're rehearsing -- obviously they can't tour right now because of the war.

but they're rehearsing mozart's "requiem" and at night they pack boxes and send them to the front line and the places that need them most. that's a priest that's blessing the food they're sending out for the easter holiday. >> i like the idea, the notion, this food has had the music flood over it is then sent out around the country. lovely to talk to you. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> the organization is blue check ukraine. more on the documentary about alexei navalny we showed you earlier just ahead.

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