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political leader advise to call it out more often, law enforcement has to engage with communities and they say social communities have to step up and police content more than they do. wolf, a lot has to be done. >> a lot has to be done, disturbing indeed. thank you, very much, and thanks for our watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the "the situation room," erin burnett starts right now. >> "outfront" next, new fears that putin's war is expanding, explosions rocking ukraine's neighbor and grizzly new tales of russians forcibly removing people from their homes, holding others against their will, bound and tortured, special report ahead. plus, inside the sprawling steel plant where ukrainian soldiers are holed up, called a city under a city, stretched four square miles and is built to be safe from a nuclear sacrattack
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and i'll speak to nasa astronaut vandehi who spent a record 355 days in space, spent with russian cosmonauts, what was it like while putin's war raged below? good evening, i'm erin burnett, the breaking news, putin's next target, tensions high as president zelenskyy accuses russia of broadening the war, striking the neighboring country of moldova, explosions rocking moldova for a second day, this time, took out a communications tower. >> translator: this is happening to destabilize the region and threaten moldova. they are showing them that if moldova supports ukraine, this is what's going to happen. >> zelenskyy saying putin's trying to strike fear into moldovaens that their country is now in the line of fire and attack and fear of a war that could become much bigger also hitting washington where a u.s. defense official says u.s.
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forces have had several close encounters with drones on the belarusian border. encounters that the united states considers, quote, a threat. belarusian dictator of course a key ally of putins, allowing russian troops and missiles to launch from there. meanwhile, in ukraine, a fierce face-off under way in the eastern part of the country where today, we have video of ukrainian fighters firing off one rocket after the next. and then you see the smoke. we'll show you where those rockets landed. that's where ukrainians say russian forces are trying to advance the other way, deeper into ukraine. according to ukraine, ukrainians have destroyed 13 russian tanks in that area in the past 24 hours. and it comes as new details of putin's brutal abduction of civilians comes to light in a cnn investigation. traveling to a town outside kyiv where dozens were kidnapped, some packed into dark rooms, hands bound, eyes taped, tortured for information. we'll give you details in our
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special report coming up and the brutalities of putin's war weighing heavily on joint chiefs of staff, mark milley warning the u.s. today, if putin is not stopped the entire u.s. international security order is at stake. >> if russia gets away with this cost-free, so goes the so-calmed international order and if that happens we're entering into an era of seriously increased instability. >> phil black out front in kyiv tonight, and phil, what is the latest on the ground there? >> reporter: erin, ukrainian officials continue to report a really notable escalation in russia's efforts across the south and the east, both in their bombardment of ukrainian positions but also their efforts to drive forward and take territory. ukraine insists, though, that it is still repelling those attacks. ukraine says it is continuing to inflict heavy losses on russian forces, both through killing soldiers but also capturing them as well. and russian soldiers are accused of trying to compensate for the
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large number of its troops now in ukrainian custody by targeting, going after ukrainian citizens. take a look. war creates powerful connections between people. volodomyr pepun and nadya lerova didn't know each other before the russians came, now he brought her news that inspires pain and hope , recently free from a military detention center, he says nadya's grandson was there too, for weeks didn't know he was still alive. they heard nothing about his safety after the invaders retreated. they know the same pain and uncertainty. volodomyr has told them, he knows their son dmitro was recently alive in the same
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detention center in russia. he says he heard dmitro's name shouted everyday during role-call. there is comfort in that, but not enough to soothe a mother's anguish. i don't have hope anymore, helena says, i know they are beasts. they will kill them and no one will find them. ukrainian officials say dozens of people were abducted from around the town of dima, near kyiv, during russia's occupation and most initially held here, in a sprawling industrial site, the russian forces used as a command post. >> this is where they were kept. >> reporter: ukrainian prosecutor alexander suz, shows me the conditions those captured people were forced to endure, a small, dark, cold room. people packed together here, he says, hands bound, eyes taped. >> this place was 22 people they
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trying to get away with, they need to walk on legs of somebody else. because there are too much people. >> reporter: he says people came and went, some spent weeks here. someone tried to keep track of days by scratching marks on the wall. he says all the people who came through this room had only one thing in common. they were civilians. several people who were kept here tell us they were frequently beaten and interrogated for information. one man says his hands and fingers were kept to the bone by russian soldiers. >> does it make sense to you they did this? >> no sense. i don't know what exactly what information they take from people. >> reporter: this video captures the moment ukrainian forces attack, driving out the russians, a number of those still locked in the room at that time tell us that's when all
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remaining captives were able to escape. already taken elsewhere, a long road trip by belarus in the back of a military truck ended in russia where he was given this military identification document, says he resisted the special occupation by the russian federation, in reality was detained while with the red cross helping people escape the fighting. ukrainian government confirmed volodomyr returned to ukraine as part of a prisoner exchange with russia, he believes that explains why russian forces are abducting ukrainian civilians. he says, they took us as goods that can be exchanged later like a mobile phone or another commodity. here, volodomyr inspects a list of more than 40 names provided by the local government, a register of people from the area who are still missing. he says he recognizes most of the names from his time in the
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russian detention center because he deliberately tried to remember as much as possible. he says sooner or later, one of us had to be the first to be released and that's why we tried to remember the names of other people to let their relatives know they're alive. erin, the ukrainian government says there is around 1,000 civilians that are locked up in detention centers in russia, in its words, says they have effectively been taken hostage. those who have lived through that experience say russia's motivations are pretty clear, they believe they were abducted specifically to play the role of a currency, to beef up russia's negotiating power in its efforts to try to secure the release of its own captured soldiers. erin. >> thank you, so much, for that powerful report. phil black, from kyiv. and i want to go now to retired army major general paul
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leighton, of existence training in iraq and steve haul, former cia chief of russian operations. so steve, let's talk about why you hear phil saying it's a currency for lack of a better word, that putin is doing this to be able to get some of his former p.o.w.s back, these are of course, ukrainian civilians, though, why is he abducting civilians in this way? >> yeah, first of all, you have to dwell for a moment, erin on the point you just made. these are not military people. these are -- this is not a pow type of situation where somebody is captured in a combat situation and then held, and there's pretty strict guidelines with regard to p.o.w. treatment but these are just civilians and i think the russians are using these folks for a number of different reasons, one of course mentioned in the report is that they are sort of hostages in a sense not unlike what north korea does, of course the russians do this too, a number of americans still in jail in moscow, but capture people so they can exchange them later,
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sometimes of intelligence value to get information on local happenings, can be returned as assets, russians try to blackmail them to continue to cooperate with them once returned to ukraine. all of this is not acceptable behavior for an army in the field and it's pretty amazing that they're, i suppose it's not amazing, it's just something they do often but not something that's normal in the rules of law of warfare. >> of course not and general leighton, when it comes to what the united states can be doing now, obviously military assistance going in but something that is glaring that the u.s. should be doing now that it's not, what is that? >> erin, we need to address the russian army to the chain of command that the black sea is not their lake. they got a lot of the naval assets. we need to move nato naval assets under an integrated command to put them into the black sea, put them in visual and radar distance from the
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russian fleet. we don't need to escalate this thing, we just need to establish a presence. make president putin understand that the dead sea is not his for freedom of navigation, is not his for freedom of action and to leave doubt in his mind that if cruise missiles start leaving the rails of his ships, there's a possibility that there will be a response. >> so steve, this comes as the secretary of defense lloyd austin said and his words is hard to know if russian forces are targeting himself and secretary of state antony blinken over the weekend when they struck rail lines, just a few hours after the two left kyiv by rail. do you think it's possible, steve, that russia did that on purpose? >> well, i certainly think it's not just possible but in my view, highly likely that the russians are targeting rail lines and rail way stations
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primarily because the russians were completely flummoxed at the idea of the amount of weaponry and reenforcement and ammunitions that were coming into ukraine to support the ukrainian army in their fight against the russians so it's no surprise really that the russians want to try to cut off those lines inside of ukraine so it makes it harder for the ukrainians to get those ammunition and weapons provided by the west to the front lines. with regard to american leadership or western leadership, i think if they manage to hit and kill some senior leaders in the west, i think that would be the cherry on top for putin and russians say look, they were in a war zone and you guys were the ones responsible for helping the ukrainians fight this war which you shouldn't be doing so you're going to lose people too. as to whether or not they were actually targeting senior leadership in the united states, i'm not sure of that but wouldn't be averse to having it happen. >> so general leighton, the u.s. saying the action on the
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belarusian/polish border is a clear threat as well. when you look at that, you look at mol ddova, do you think the conflict where it is now, is at great risk of a sort of meteoric expansion or do you think that risk has diminished. >> erin, i believe the risk is increasing radically, that what we're seeing in moldova, transnistria, is this opportunity of false flag pretext establishments to bring military action into that region. the forces that may be brought to bear would have to come through some of the most important economic terrain that ukraine has, that odesa is the jewel in the crown here, you know, it's very much a escalating risk right now at the hands of mr. putin. >> thank you both very much for this conversation. next, inside the sprawling
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steel plant in mariupol where thousands of ukrainians are holed up. it's called a city under a city because it is full of tunnels and pipes and bunkers that were built to withstand a nuclear attack, a city under that plant, we're going to show you, a special report. plus attorney general pressed tonight about sanctions on putin's rumored girlfriend, mother of children of his. why won't the u.s. target her. >> learning new details tonight of alina kabaiba and new tapes of kevin mccarthy asking why twitter wouldn't shut down the accounts of fellow republicans, something mccarthy denies he ever said. a powerful .5% retinol that's also gentle on skin. for wrinkle results in onene week. neutrogena®.. for people with skin.
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tonight a third mass grave site located near the besieged city of mariupol, new images show the freshly dug site, mariupol's mayor saying russian soldiers are forcing ukrainians to bury bodies there in exchange for food, comes as russian president vladimir putin today accuses russian forces of hiding behind civilians and refusing to let them leave mariupol, putin also saying he orders his forces to stop assault operations at the steel plant there, after 62 days of fighting, it's the last pocket of organized resistance to the occupation. estimated 1,000 civilians said to be sheltering in nuclear bunkers under the structure,
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alex marquardt out front with a rare look inside. >> reporter: all that stands in vladimir putin's way of fully conquering mariupol, a key prize for the russians. sprawling asovstad steel plant operating on this site nearly a century covering four square miles, 10 square kilometers right on the sea of asov a complex that normally employs 10,000 people with a tunnel of maizes, pipes and shelters built to withstand a nuclear blast all below ground and so vast a pro russian commentator called it a city under a city, now a fortress for ukrainian fighters and the city they're defending. >> as far as we know, about 1,000 civilians still at the shelters. >> reporter: since the russians launched their assault on the city in early march, the noose has tightened. this informational video before the war shows how difficult a close-quarters fight would be in this huge plant full of manufacturing facilities, offices, and operations rooms.
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putin has ordered his military to abandon plans to take the facility, instead, telling his defense minister to seal it off so tightly, he said, that a fly cannot pass through. >> this is a statement of convenience by president putin. his forces were unable to really go in and take the steel plant, to take all of mariupol without suffering even worse casualties and even more damage to the force. >> reporter: ukrainian forces inside said there are hundreds of wounded soldiers and civilians. they have pleaded with the international community to find them a way out, sheltering below ground with no natural light and little news. the children here are crying all the time, they want to play, they want to live, this woman said. they haven't even seen daylight for weeks. she said supplies are running low. the ceo of the company that owns the plant says the underground shelters which can hold 4,000 people had been stocked with two
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to three weeks of food and water but the war started two months ago. >> to be honest, i'm surprised they still have food and water in the shelters and we couldn't get any help into mariupol because the rugs did not allow us to do this humanitarian convoys into the city. >> reporter: the prospects of holding the plant and mariupol look grim. controlling it means putin would control land stretching from crimea to western russia, a long-held goal. >> even if mariupol falls and these poor people are killed and transported away, it doesn't mean russia will hold it. the ukrainians are getting better and better organized, better and better equipped and going to continue fighting. >> reporter: out today, mariupol's mayor called the situationality that plant a humanitarian catastrophe, accused the russian military of again continuing to shell the factory, also praised it, erin, as a fortress for those soldier and see civilians inside. over at moscow, the united nations secretary-general visited with putin, said putin
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agreed in principle for the u.n. and red cross to help coordinate evacuation from that steel factory, of course, erin, we've seen countless past agreements from the russians fall apart, erin. >> yeah, horrible to imagine, you know, not letting a fly in, no food or water, people could starve to death. thank you, alex. >> re next, growing questions for the biden administration why they haven't sanctioned putin's alleged girlfriend. plus new tapes that kevin mccarthy didn't want anybody to hear where he asks about censoring his own party on twitter. ating blend of essential oils. curated with citrus and mint to uplift the sensnses and transform your mood. air wick essential mist aroma. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for whatchya...
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tonight, u.s. attorney general merick garland talked about possible sanctions against putin's rumored girlfriend, alina kabaeva, sanctions were ready to go but pulled at the last minute, this as we're learning more about kabaeva and
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her relationship with putin. nic robertson is out front. >> alina kabaeva, back in the news again. first, romantically linked to president putin more than a decade ago. a relationship he has denied ever since. they met years earlier. reportedly, when she was a young medal-winning gymnast, he looked smitten. last week, stepping out at a mock y moscow gymnastics event, rally the weekend as it slips into international isolation. >> translator: competitions will be held only in russia, on the contrary, the gymnastics will be better, more spectacular and the russian gymnastics is not losing anything in this situation. >> reporter: her life transformed much richer, u.s. officials say according to the wall street journal following her proximity to putin. questions now, why hasn't she been sanctioned like him?
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>> why you would refrain from sanctioning someone so close to putin. >> i don't have analysis at this point because we're still reviewing, there's more we will likely do. >> reporter: the two rarely if ever seem together, their precise relationship unclear, but more than a decade of rumors undimmed with time. now, against the back drop of wartime symbolism. to support putin's war. >> translator: every family has a history of war and shouldn't forget about it. we should hand it over from generation to generation. >> reporter: her wealth and ties to putins are a hot political topic since the wall street journal treasury officials decided last minute not to sanction them. >> there's articles in the paper about family members that have been used by putin to sorlt of launder money and talk of a girlfriend in sweden.
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do you know anything about an effort to bring sanctions against her? >> first answer is no and second answer i guess is if i did know, i wouldn't be able to -- >> fair enough. >> reporter: whatever kabaeva's proximity to putin, her financial moves never more closely watched than now. so the question, if they could have sanctioned her, why not, was it fear because putin hates the sanctions on him, hates the sanctions on other top officials and would really lose it if someone dear to him as she appears potentially to be was sanctioned? is that the reason? or is it because in diplomacy, you often leave something on the table that the other side knows you can take away. he knows that's hanging over his head potentially. >> all right, nic, thank you very much, i want to go now to andre solotov russian
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investigative journalist, watch dog of the russian secret services activities now blocked in russia. so andre, there are, you know, these calls to sanction putin's rumored girlfriend, rumored to be the mother of multiple children with putin, alina kabaeva, wall street journal says's the administration had the sanctions ready to go but somebody pulled them at the last minute. why do you believe she should be targeted? >> well, i think because she's not only his rumored wife, but also because she is an important part of the russian propaganda machine. putin made her several years ago a chairwoman of the largest, biggest media holding in the country and this company controls several russian tv channels, including the first channel which is a source of news for most of the russians these days. so if now, we are asking ourselves all these questions about brainwashing russians and why they do not understand what
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is going on in ukraine, it's also partly because of the works of this company. >> it's pretty amazing as you say, you know, however she got such a position to go from being an olympic gymnast to chairwoman of the largest media organization in russia is absurd on its face, but it's an important role, a role that's central to this so certainly from just that i understand your point would deserve to be sanctioned. but the wall street journal reports, andre, the u.s. officials fear sanctioning her would be so deeply personal to putin it would further escalate tensions and be punitive for its own sake because of that. do you think there's merit in that argument? >> yes, maybe, because at least we know for a fact that putin can be extremely emotional. that's somebody saying, writing anything about this relationship with kabaeva, at least one newspaper was closed down only because they published a story
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about vladimir putin and did you b , about kabaeva years ago, and he is always emotion about those things, so yeah. >> when you say in your word, a vicious blame game within putin's security forces right now, that you've been getting more calls than usual from your contacts in the russian military over the past few days, what are they telling you? >> they are telling me that they're extremely unhappy with the fsb, russian security services. they believe they still misinform vladimir putin and partly blame fsb for putin's decision to change military strategy in ukraine and it looks like the military now, they want an all-out war in ukraine. they believe that they still have a peace time army, completely mobilized ukrainian army, with the best weapons
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provided by the west, and they want more drastic accidents. they want more bombardments and more things to do in ukraine for the infrastructure of the country. >> so they want all-out war and feel that's being denied them by putin now, that's the bottom line? >> yes. >> wow. andre, thank you very much, appreciate your time and sharing reporting with us. next, minority leader kevin mccarthy worried his own party would incite violence against other lawmakers on january 6th, his own party, and naming names, among them, matt gates. >> putting people in jeopardy -- plus my next guest spent nearly a year in space, often side-by-side with russians, why he's convinced these yellow and blue space suits actually had nothing to do with protesting putin's invasion of ukraine. ♪ walking o on ♪ ♪ walking on the moon ♪
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breaking news new leaked audio of house leader kevin mccarthy slamming members of his own party after january 6th, talking about matt gates and mel
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brooks, obtained by new york times, alex and martin from their new book. >> i'm calling gates, explaining to him, i don't know how to say, the nature of what, if i'm getting briefing from the fbi tomorrow this is serious shit, to cut this out. >> yeah that's, potentially illegal what he's doing. >> well he's put be people in jeopardy. >> brooks apparently said american patriots start taking down names and kicking ass which i would say is a step further than a kind of rhetorical take, you know. >> you think the president deserves to be impeached? >> all on tape to hear that conversation. ryan nobles out front, it is pretty amazing to listen to this, these conversations, right, which are, obviously they
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really believed and really felt and obviously are completely different than what they now say they said so what else are we learning about what mccarthy said? >> i think that point you make is so important, erin, for the better part of period of time of january 6th up until now, leader kevin mccarthy gone out of his way to defend many of these members of the far-right wing of his party who defended the former president, who tried to make excuses for what happened on january 6th, but here in the private moments you hear him talking about how he really felt in those days after it. take a listen to a little more about what mccarthy had to say in these tapes. >> he said like we need to fight or something, right, didn't he say something a couple of days out? >> it was something like that. yes. it was incendiary. >> tweet on saturday night, of the capitol police offer who
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shot and killed as he was trying to get into the lobby, i understand it was a black police officer shot a white female veteran, you know that doesn't fit the narrative. >> what? >> oh, man. >> this is what we have to confront to this. >> so that's an important part there, suggesting some of these members of his caucus had their twitter accounts being taken away, maybe saying it in a sarcastic way but nonetheless has the impact it's showing just how serious he thought this situation was and i caught up with adam kinsinger a republican, a critic of mccarthy i asked him about the audio and said he didn't want to comment on the audio specifically but erin what he did say is this shows it's clear that kevin mccarthy knew how big of a problem this was and basically didn't do anything about it, erin. >> he clearly thought it was a problem, i mean this obvious are
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genuine feelings as well as those of representative scalise, as well, i know you, ryan spoke to a trump ally, and text messages showed how far he was willing to go to overturn the election, what do the text messages say, what does he say from the reporting. >> that's right erin, just how deeply involved representative scott perry from pennsylvania was in the efforts to overturn the election leading up to january 6th, reaching out to mark meadows at the time encouraging the direct of intelligence, john radcliff to look into these conspiracy theories about voting machines suggesting the chinese or even the british could be involved in hacking these machines. we reached out to perry's office multiple times asking him to explain what he bhent in these text messages, to talk about whether he had specific evidence of voting machines being hacked
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and why he wanted the most powerful parts of the federal government involved in the investigation, he doesn't respond to the requests so i called him outside the capitol today and this is what happened. >> reporter: any comment on the text messages to mr. meadows? >> no. >> reporter: why not? can you explain why you were attempting to push a conspiracy theory, you have specific evidence of that? and erin, it's important to point out scott perry is getting more power here in congress, now the chair of the conservative freedom caucus which has we know, carries a lot of weight within the republican party here in washington. erin. >> all right, thanks very much, ryan. and next, nasa astronaut mark vande hei worked with russian astronauts in space while putin waged war with ukraine, did that impact their mission? fascinated by his thoughts and madison cathorne, republican congresswoman, caught at the aiairport with a gun, again.
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tonight, 355 days in space. that is the longest that any american has ever been in space, nasa astronaut mark vande hei breaking the record now back on earth, reeceived this call from vice-president harris. >> hope you feel our nation, our planet is so thankful to you for your years of dedicates service, certainly to our country and to your dedication to such excellence and welcome home, welcome home. >> and "outfront" now, the record-setting mark vande hei, mark, i really appreciate your time. it is stunning to consider what you did and how you, you endured it. i mean, what was it like to sacrifice a fuel year of your life for this obviously very important mission? >> oh, i feel like it was part of my job, frankly.
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i felt certainly honored that i was entrusted with such an important time in space, but i felt like i really had a lot of gratitude for the opportunity to be up there and have the opportunity to contribute as we continue everyday to break new ground with science. >> what do you think the greatest accomplishment was from being up there? >> gosh, greatest accomplishment, one single thing, that's hard to do, hard to describe when there's 60 to 100 experiments going on at any given time, if i highlight one experiment of many, just to try to make that seem a little more real, one i like to talk about is celestial immunity. it was an experiment that involved us taking some human cells that were donated from elderly people and younger folks as well and inoculating them and seeing how the immune system response changed. so my hope for that is that
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helps us with that knowledge, that it helps future space explorers maintain their health as they travel further and further away from the planet someday. >> right, i know the goal, next to mars, you talked about that. in your time up there, you know, it's such tight quarters with people, i always find it incredible to even imagine it. i know it's unimaginable for those of us who never done it but, you know, you spent a lot of time with individual and some of them of course are russians, always russian and seemericans others other there, i want to ask you about what kelly said, he had the record in space until you broke it and saying russia is brainwashing the cosmonauts into supporting putin's invasion of ukraine and just spoke to newsweek i don't know if you saw this, but said he'd been speaking to russian counter part and see said most of them are really far down the rabbit hole, so that part surprised me how easily some of them were misled
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and brainwashed i guess you could say and don't believe what is really happening. he did, though, caveat, it mark, saying some of the cosmonauts are like, this is all an f-ing travesty and ridiculous and i wish i could leave this country. i know you became incredibly close with the russian cosmonauts you were working with. you consider them very dear friends. did you experience what kelly is talking about? >> i certainly experienced the fact that human beaks form opinions based on the inputs they receive and what they tend to focus on, so i think the whole politics of the united states follows as well, but most of my interactions with crewmates even though i was curious about their perspectives, primarily focused on what our space-related tasks were and cooperated without fail. >> so you and russian astronaut
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anton had a touching embrace before the departing ceremony, and he spoke at that moment about the ukraine war and the tension between russia and the united states. here's what he said. >> people have problem on earth. on orbit, we are like, we are not -- we are one crew. and i think isis is like a symbol of the friendship and cooperations and like symbol of future of exploration of space. and thank you, very much, my crew members. we are like my space brothers and space sister. >> and obviously, you all work together. but, you know, guess you kind of reference this, mark, but you do it as a war is waging below you on earth, actually seeing it from the perspective of the
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fragility of the entire planet, looking down looks beautiful but you know innocent people are dying there. what was that like? >> oh, gosh, gets me choked up just thinksing about it. i mean the world is so beautiful and it's awe inspiring to look down at the earth but it's also extremely sad to recognize that there's a lot of suffering that's happening and personally, i think it's a very, very avoidable suffering. at the same time, i felt a strong sense of honor that i was able to participate in a program that i think helps provide a path to having the peace we so desperately need in the future because those paths always require some conversations
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between people who trust each other. and i think that's what the space program is providing and hopefully will continue to provide no matter what type of international conflicts we run into. >> so everyone watching this conversation remembers that surprising image and it was talked about all around the world when the latest group of russian cosmonauts arrived at the international space station the war had already begun and they were wearing these incredibly bright yellow and blue flight suits. and everybody thought that there's no way this could be a coincidence because these are the colors of the ukrainian flag and you got the russian cosmonauts in this war, going up there, but you say they were blind sighted by this controversy, can you tell me what they told you, what you learned about that? >> oh, i learned that those -- so all three of those cosmonauts went to the same university in moscow and those were the colors of that university. i also know, having picked out a
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flight suit in the past, we get -- there's part of the process before launch is the russians give us the opportunity to pick out clothing. and in some cases you get to pick out something that, we've had some, a crew member from maryland, for example, had colors of the state flag of maryland across his chest and had, you know, just all different kind of crazy-looking flight suit, i typically just have a u.s. flag and blue flight suit, i didn't get that fancy with it. so my first reaction to seeing them wearing these bright color flight suit as wow that was a bold move, not because of it having any association with ukraine but just such a bright, flamboyant color i just thought that was shocking. anton actually whispered into their ear, saying did you intend for this to be ukrainian colors? and i remember alyeg had a kind
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of startled look on his face, that's why was comfortable saying they were blind sided because of that nonverbal and knowing they went to the same university. they chose to wear the same color flight suit and i'm sure that was because of the commonality in where they went to school. also, there's a lot of bureaucracy and figuring out the clothing you wear before you go to space. so you pick that stuff out months in advance, it has to get constructed, and as, you know, that timeline with the ukrainian invasion was not to too much before they arrived, so didn't have time to prepare before they picked it out. >> important point to make. well thank you, mark, really appreciate your time. thanks so much. >> thanks, great talking to you. next, a republican congressman already on thin ice within his party caught with a loaded gun, a loaded gun, at an airport. in a covered wagon. are we going to o have coverage on this trip? oh we'll be coverered.
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