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stick figures to the left and right. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. twitter has been on fire these past couple of days largely because its future owner has caused conniptions on tleft and right. on thursday, elon musk tweeted a drawing from colin wright, the contributing editor online magazine and depicted are stick figures on an ideological sp spectrum one is label lead the. me is stuck in place, the ground around he, him or her shifts. what was a slightly left of center position in 2008 is by 2021 the turf of a right-leaning
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conservative. take a look. the diagram is worthy of scrutiny, to my eye, it suggests that elon musk believes the political climate of the last decade plus has caused a reassessment of where he sees himself on the political spectrum. to me, it screams, my feet haven't moved. the ground around me has. and who among us is most responsible for the shifting landscape, he says woke progressives. in reply to a commenter, musk elaborated, saying, quote, i strongly supported obama for president but today's democratic party has been hijacked by extremists. as you can imagine that didn't go over so well with the extremists. and musk wasn't done. the richest man on the planet then said the far left hates everyone themselves included. about 15 minutes later another missive from musk, quote, but i'm no fan of the far right either. let's have less hate.
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and more love. later on friday, congresswoman alexandria ocasio cortez rebuffed the idea that the extreme left had taken other and added this, i'm tired to clektsively stress about what explosion of hate crimes is happening because some billionaire with an ego problem unilaterally skews a platform because tucker carlson or peter teal took him to dinner and made him. stop hating on me. i'm really shy. she wrote back she had been talking about zuckerberg and then deleted that tweet. look, i'm the most pleased and least surprised by musk's declarations. as i said here two weeks ago in a commentary, musk is no servant to ideology, a critical thinker, independent, who feels no sense of no other iert end of the political scale. his political record is consistent for its inconsistency in a good way.
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and i find his self reflection to be inspiring and i hope infectious. how about we all declare where we stand and where we have been before? you pick your milestone years and get started. i'll go first, for me it would be 1980, 2010 and 2022. back in 1980 i registered as a republican, cast my ballot for reagan/bush. i was still a republican in 2008 when for the first time i voted for a democrat for president. by 2010 i shifted my affiliation to independent. and today, stuck the middle with many of you. by the way, don't take my word for it, earlier this year a colorado-based media wash dog released results of the latest media bias survey. there's a center line at 0 for what they see as neutral. based on assessments of content. you can either be to the left of that center, which they express
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as a minus, or to the right. some examples of what they found to be far left, okay. msnbc's joy reed a minus 19.53. rachel maddow, her colleague, cnn minus 8.65. on the right side, here is what you find. fox news host sean hannity plus 26.17. tucker carlson is a plus 23. news max 15 and change. fox news 14, new york post 12, "wall street journal" 5. where did i come in? very proud of my score, a minus 1.33. pretty darn close to my personal goal known as a blue tar ski, remember? >> mr. blue -- mr. blutarski,
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0.0. >> so, where do you stand? when i asked that question of my listeners this week, many were inspired to make a sketch and tag me online. here are a couple. it's interesting most people it seems change over time. i think that's healthy. it's a reflection of life experiences. beware of those who think they had all the answers back in the day and still think they had it figured out from the get-go, i say. of course today we don't reward evolution of thought and openness to new ideas, either from politicians or their handlers in the media. instead, we call that flip-flopping. we cling to media mouthpieces who project a confidence in rigidity of viewpoint. look, if elon musk really is somewhere in the center, he's got a lot of company. earlier this year, gallup made headlines with a poll of american's political preferences that seemed to indicate a move toward the republican party. i think that misrepresented the result.
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see, when gallup initially asked with which political party do you identify, in the fourth quarter the initial numbers were as follows. democrats 28%. republicans 28%. independents 42%. only after that did gallup push these people and say, well, yeah. but which way do you lean. then they got more leaning republican. which i think only re-enforces musk's point. so today, ladies and gentlemen, a test, an art assignment actually. right now draw your stick figure. show me your political progression. tag me @smerconish. instead of the conventional tweets i'm going to show the drawings during the course of the program. this could be fun. or not. i also want you to answer this week's survey question at smerconish.com. which party has been more h hijacked, musk's word, by extremists. democrat party or republican party? now, we can all see america is a country divided, but how exactly has it happened?
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and is it beyond repair? in a compelling piece in the atlantic was their most popular story on their website for several days running, it's called "why the past ten years of american life have been uniquely stupid" nyu professor jonathan height writes this, it's been clear for quite a while now that red america and blue america are becoming like two different countries claiming the same territory with two different versions of the constitution, economics and american history. and where i have personally laid a lot of the blame on the dominance of talk radio and cable television hosts, height finds a different kind of media to be the culprit. social media. jonathan height is a social psychologist at nyu stern school of business. and he's also the co-author with greg of the coddling of the american mind. professor, thanks for being here. i want to start by drilling down on a key photograph in your piece. you said this, social scientists have identified at least three major forces that collectively
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bind together successful democracies. social capital which is extensive, social networks with high levels of trust, strong institutions and shared stories. social media has weakened all three. how did that happen? >> so, when social media came out, when the major platforms around 2003, 2004 come out, there are just ways that people can put up stuff about them, photos of their kids, connect with other people, communication is good. what changes was 2009 when facebook introduces the like button, it gets much more engaging, things can go viral. later on in 2013 we get threaded comments which encourage everybody to fight with everybody in the comments section under posts from famous people. and so gradually or actually fairly suddenly, social media became something not just about spreading misinformation but getting people to fight with other people, to attack them, shame them, call for them to be fired. and that's when it turned
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everybody against everybody. that's why i use the metaphor the tower of babble. it's not red against blue. it's a fragmentation of everything. that's the way it's felt since about 2014. >> was this the intention of the platforms that you referenced? >> no. it certainly wasn't their intention to destroy society. but it was their very clearly stated intention, worked into their bonus plans that, hey, engineers f you can think of a way to increase engagement, you get a bigger bonus. and so, i think that's especially what threaded comments were, that's what the retweet button was. and i don't know if they knew originally that anger is the best way to increase engagement. i don't attribute bad intent. they were just following a business imperative to increase engagement, keep people on the platform, keep the platform growing. we know that facebook did know that its platform was increasing polarization. they had a unit studying it and shut it down. reporting from "the wall street journal" says they knew about this problem, they can improve
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it and they don't. >> professor haidt, what is to be done? >> well, there's many systemic changes we need. i think elon musk is right to focus on cleaning up bots. everyone is focussing on content moderation as though that's the major battle. and i think that's wrong. whether we get a little more content moderation or less isn't going to make much difference. it's really about the architecture of the platforms. the fact that a russian agent or a jerk with a personality problem can create 100 fake accounts in a day and harass people with them, that's a much bigger problem. so, there are a lot of structural reforms we need to use with social media. we all have a lot of agency. the whole system works only because we all contribute thousands of clicks. we all post content. so just stop it. stop posting content. it does have some uses. you can advertise events. you can praise people. but to opine publicly on things, all you're doing is showing off. i'm hopeful we'll get to the
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point where we see people who opine a lot as losers. they're causing problems. ignore them. everyone should cut their social media posting by 50%, 70% and just be nicer to each other. if we could all do that, it would be a lot less destructive. >> i know you heard the opening commentary, if you were showing us your stick figure and jonathan haidt's progression, what would we see? >> well, so as a social psychologist who studies morality, what i can most do here is to say, you have to look at it from each person's perspective. and if you are in a left-leaning institution, as i am, in a university, then the figure -- it's from colin wright, the figure that elon posted is right. what happened in left-leaning institutions is the conservative professors didn't suddenly get radical. they haven't changed but the progressives have. so, that figure is correct for those who work in journalism, in media, in the arts.
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but you know, if you look at the two parties, the republican party i think has gotten much more radical. the party of -- the party that nominated mitt romney in 2012, a very decent gentleman, a burkean, a social conservative, then they nominate not just donald trump, but even donald trump when he's gone is the king maker in the party. this is insane. so from the left's point of view, the left is coming back to elon's cart, you're crazy. it's the opposite. it's the right that went crazy. if you look at the parties i think is the republican party radicalized more. the democrats still have moderates and the moderates often win. in other words, both sides are right if you take a moment to look at it from their point of view and say, what is it that they're concerned about on the other side. >> i now know how you're voting on today's survey question. did you paint that wall just to come on my program today because i really offer you kudos if
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that's the case. >> i have no taste. i can't even tell colors apart practically. i went away on vacation. nyu painted my office nyu purple or off nyu purple and here we are. >> love it. jonathan haidt, appreciate it very much. >> thank you, michael. >> go to my question and answer this week's survey question. let us request that of all the quests. we want the walls painted purple before they come on. which party has been more hijacked by extremists, democratic or republican? you know how elon musk is voting on that. and continue to send me your sketches. i want to see your political progression and i will show some during the course of the program. tag me @smerconish on twitter. what has come in so far? all right. this is interesting. there's donald elliott, he starts off left of center in the '70s. blow that up. there you go. then has a libertarian bent by the mid 80s. slides back to the center. and if i'm understanding now
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thinks that the far left is going whacky and on the far right there are a bunch of nuts. he's just set a high bar. keep sending me your sketches. up ahead, this week vladimir putin unleashed missiles at kyiv during a visit by the u.n. secretary general and made more veiled threats about using nukes. is there any way to negotiate with him? also, "the new york times" launched a multi-part information into why anxiety, depression, suicide so rampant among american teens. i'll talk o the pulitzer prize winning reporter about his findings. (all): hail, caesar! pssst caesesar! julius! dude, you should r really checkn with your team on ringcentral. i was thinking like... oh hi, caesar. we were just talking a about y. ha ha ha. yeah, you should probably get out of here. not good. ♪ ♪ ♪ ringcentral ♪
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september. and putin did some more nuclear sable rattling, telling lawmakers in st. petersburg, quote, someone intends to intervene from the outside and creates unacceptable strategic threats for us, our response to those strikes will be swift, lightning fast. we have all the tools for this. ones that no one can brag about. we won't brag. we will use them if needed and i want everyone to know this. how real are his threats? just making a play for a negotiated settlement? it's impossible to tell. matt miller told this to cnn's ana cabrera. >> they have made what we consider to be dangerous and unacceptable statements about the possibility of nuclear war. one of the things we tried not to do from the beginning is to put ourself in vladimir putin's head. all we can do is make clear that if he pursues dangerous and reckless choices that there will be consequences for him. >> dr. kenneth joins me now, a
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psychologist, former state department regional medical officer and senior fellow at the george h.w. bush foundation. he previously worked at the american embassy atmos cow and specializes in profiling. he wrote this piece for the sieper, it's called putin's health and state of mind are very hard targets. doctor, thank you so much for being here. is this guy a rational actor? >> absolutely, michael. thank you for having me. he's a rational actor and if you borrow an analogy from your earlier segment on this morning's program, and use the stick figure to show how much president putin has moved in one direction or another, the stick wouldn't have moved at all. he is what he always is. a highly rational, ruthless, brutal authoritarian leader and he's also very tactical and very strategic. he believes that what he calls a
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special military operation is in russia's best interest. that being said, i believe he's made a terrific strategic miscalculation in many ways. let me give some quick examples. he underestimated the will of the ukrainian people, the will of nato to pull together, the will of president biden to mount the ability to pull the alliance together and most of all he underestimated, as we did all, the courage and heroism of president zelenskyy. >> i'm really amazed at your perspective. and you've been studying him for more than two decades now that his stick figure hasn't been impacted. has age changed him at all? >> that's a good question. i think one of the things you see in many ageing leaders, especially authoritarian leaders is as they age their decision
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making becomes a bit more rigid and less flexible. psychologists who study this call this integrated complexity where you see things more as black and white. and i think he also has more of an echo chamber in terms of his decision making and there's fairly good evidence that his intelligence services, particularly the fsb told him in all likelihood what he wanted to hear rather than telling him the facts about the ukrainian people's ability and will to resist. >> you know, dr. dekleva, the g20 leaders are scheduled to get together in the fall, putin said he is going yet. the u.s. hasn't had a response how that will be handled by president biden. talk to me about the dynamic of the two of them potentially being on the same stage. >> i think that's a wonderful point. i think the real dynamic is putin will go to stick his thumb in the eye of the west.
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and for him it would be triumphant. and he would get to back slap and hug with other leaders who support him, such as mbs, president xi jinping and others. and i think it would be a very triumphal moment for him in terms of the propaganda and the optics that he can show to the russian people and to xi jinping. i think it's a real positive in his mind for authoritarian leaders who are fighting this battle against a liberal democracy of the west. so i expect him to go and i think that would be an interesting dynamic. >> quick final question, do you think he's in jeopardy from anyone in his circle? >> slightly. i think because he's very careful. he's a trained kgb officer, but i think because he's made this really remarkable strategic error, there's always the risk
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that history could end badly for him. and retirement may not be what he thinks it is. that being said, he has to watch his back both from the fsb, the svr and the military, the inner circle, the power circle. he has to be very careful, but putin has been careful for decades, so i think the chances of him losing power in that way are probably very, very low. he has an 83% approval rating in the polls. >> thank you so much. >> thank you, sir. >> right. thanks for the analysis. i really appreciate it. fascinating stuff. i'm reminding everybody to go to my website this hour and answer this week's survey question. which party has been more hijacked, that's elon musk's word, by extremists? democrat party or republican party? and continue to send in your stick figures. we just learned that if we had vladimir putin as one of them, his wouldn't have shifted. what do we have, katherine? wow. look at -- people are getting
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fancy now. let me dissect. okay. i get it. that's a nittany lion. so this is a penn state proud person who is a centrist in the '90s, goes to -- i'll bet that the temple law school, the beasley school of law and is left of center and then in 2016 -- there you go. donald trump is running but this is not a trumper, this is a person who says, i'm now far left because of trump and now in 2022 i'm going to vote for conner lamb and i'm more toward the center. that is amazing. i love it. people getting very creative now. do we have time for one more or should i move on? not now. keep them coming. up ahead, several famous carpet baggers have won senate seats despite having only recently moved to their states. watching a pennsylvania gop senate debate this week i realized three of the five candidates are really not recently from here. does this matter to anybody other than me?
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anxiety, depression, self harm, suicide. these troubling statistics pre-date the pandemic and have only gotten worse since. in 2019, 13% of adolescents reported having a major dpresive episode, up 60% from 2007. for people ages 10 to 24 the cdc estimates that suicide rates leapt nearly 60% from 2007 to 2018. according to the male order pharmacy express scripps from 2018 to 2019 prescriptions for anti-depressants rose 38% for teenagers compared to 15% for adults. these facts and more comprise the background for the first installment of interpandemic, a new york times series about adolescents titled "it's life or death:the mental health crisis among u.s. teens" joining me now is its author, a pulitzer prize winning staff writer for the new york times for the series he spent more than a year
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interviewing adolescents and their families and written a book just out called "inspired:understanding creativity, a journey through art, science and the soul." matt, as i said, my folks they were most concerned about me coming home from a kegger. what's changed? >> right. i guess my first question is were they right to be concerned? >> yes. >> okay. so look, we've had a fundamental shift in the united states and looks like across western countries in what ails young people. public health worried about those external harms you mentioned before and things have flipped and they now worry about what they call these internalized risks:anxiety, depression, suicide and self harm. that's a monster public health story. >> is it that these things were always with us but went undiagnosed? or has there been some kind of a
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shift? and if so, caused by what? >> it's a strange answer but the answer is yes and probably both. some of this stuff was there and some of it has been intensified. the reasons behind it are a bit complicated, but i'll try to narrow it to this. there's been a change in the adolescent brain and a change in the environment and the collision of those two things has amplified what we think about as teen angst and turned it in some cases into serious pathology. >> matt, here are some things -- i'm going to put them up in graph form from your piece that are down. >> yep. >> they include -- let's take a look at these. they include the following, whether people have smoked, ever tried vaping, alcohol, unprotected sex, cocaine, watching television. you would think that's all good that those things are down. next slide, please. here are some things that are up or at least getting worse.
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they include persistently feeling sad or hopeless, seriously considering suicide, even making a plan, attempting suicide, et cetera, et cetera. one more slide if i may. smart phone usage. >> yeah. >> what's the connection between these three slides that i've just shown? >> yeah. so, i mean, first of all, i'm so glad you picked those out because they show it in very plain terms what's going on. and what the smart phone represents is not the smart phone per se. and it's easy to say, oh, the rise of the smart phone and the internet caused this, but here is another way to think about that, michael. that represents a massive shift in lifestyle. the lifestyle went from outdoors, hanging out at the woods, your parents concerned about the kegger, my parents concerned about the kegger, maybe driving recklessly, but congregating to a lifestyle in
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which young people are increasingly indoors. they are getting less physical exercise, less in-person experience. they're also sleeping less and they're interacting with their devices. it doesn't mean the smart phone is the cause. it means the smart phone is an inflection point in a changing lifestyle. >> in 2012, that was the year when more than half of america had a cell phone from her writings, put that up on the screen and let me share it with matt. she has said the following, they're more vulnerable than millennials are, it's not an exaggeration to describe i-gen being on the brink of the worst mental health crisis in decades. much of this deterioration can be traced to their phones. is she right? >> the short answer is we don't know. i want to say something very pointedly and very important, mi
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michael, this may be the most important thing i say here today, the science is unclear about the relationship between social media in particular and mental health. and i think that the reason i know i was given more than a year to talk to families and scientists is to try to get at the more nuance of the science here. i don't think we can show through the research that merely looking at social media and interacting with it causes mental health problems for all youth. i think we can show for some youth it's a problem and for other youth they actually thrive. there's a much bigger picture at play than that simple explanation expresses. >> matt, it's an important subject. can't wait for your next installment. thank you. >> thank you for having me, michael. appreciate it. i want to remind you to answer the survey question this week at smerconish.com. which political party has been
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more hijacked by extremists, democrat or republican. keep sending in your stick figure drawings. where do you see yourself on an ideological scale and where have you been? wow. this is fancy, smansy. look at this. let my dissect. seems pretty much -- here is my take away, he or she is sticking the middle but notice what is happening. the right and the left are moving so far that people are falling off the edges. i love that. i agree with it. keep the submissions coming and vote at smerconish.com and register for the newsletter when you're there. still to come, three of the five gop candidates for senate in my home state of pennsylvania i say really aren't from here, at least not recently. other so-called carpet bagging candidates this cycle include herschel walker in georgia, congressional hopeful sara rosenthal in rhode island. will their recent residencies impact their chances?
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political tourism, that was my thought as i watched this week's debate among the five candidates vying for the republican nomination in my home state of pennsylvania's u.s. senate race. three of them, david mccormick, dr. oz and carla sands has questions raised about their residency. i took a picture of my
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television set and tweeted out, call me old school. i think senators should be long standing residents. i'm bothered there are residency questions, i don't mean in a legal or technical sense. they all meet the requirement. i'm bothered by the fact that i don't regard three of them from being from pennsylvania, at least not recently. because until recently, mccormick lived in connecticut. sands spent most of her adult life in california and oz is more aptly being described from new jersey. the philadelphia inquirerer pointed out the celebrity known as dr. oz says he moved to pennsylvania last year but more than 20 social media posts in the last three months show him in his north jersey mansion. pennsylvania isn't the only state experiencing political carpet bagging this election cycle. in georgia, former uga football star herschel walker moved back to the state to run for the senate after living for decades in texas. in oregon, new york times columnist announced he was
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running for governor but was disqualified because he wasn't a resident of the state for at least three years. in rhode island, morganthal left her commerce department job in washington to run for office to succeed retiring representative jim. she grew up in boston and new york. and in tennessee, former state department spokesperson morgan ortgas moved to nashville and announced her candidacy for a house seat. look, this is a tale as old as time. there are many high-profile instances of carpet bagging when you go back into political history. the late robert f. kennedy became a senator from new york despite his famously being from massachusetts. former senator and secretary of state hillary clinton also represented new york after spending most of her life in illinois, arkansas and washington, d.c. former senator elizabeth dole was a resident of the washington, d.c. area since the mid 1960s before moving from her home at the weathergate hotel back to north carolina to run
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for office and senator mitt romney ran for open seat in utah in 2018 despite previously serving as the governor of massachusetts. guess what, all of them won. do voters hold residency to be a problem? with me now to help answer these questions is christopher, the author of "the book on point" stranger in a strange state the politics of carpet bagging from robert kennedy to scott brown. he is also an associate professor of politics at st. anthem college. professor, where does the term come from? why do we call carpet bagging? >> it came from southern newspaper editors in the years immediately after the civil war during reconstruction. they were looking for some word use to demeanor northerners coming south looking for their fame and fortune and settled on carpet bagger because it described the suitcases that were literally made from heavy kargts that they carried with
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them. and while it was initially used in the southern context, it really quickly spread because it captured an idea that is, as you said, just so instinctual for so many voters that people should be from the place they're representing. so it's become this all-purpose term regardless of region for anybody who picks up sticks and moves to a new state to run for office or runs for office some place after having held office in another state like mitt romney did. >> sometimes it means to matter and many times it doesn't. what's the common thread? what is the take away? >> for the folks who are able to overcome that label, the most -- the thing they most have in common is that they are already folks with a national profile. if you think about bobby kennedy, attorney general, his brother had been president, hillary clinton had been first lady, mitt romney had run for president. those folks have a national profile, they were familiar to voters and they were able to make a case to voters in new york and in the case of romney
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to voters in utah they were able to bring their experience to bear to represent their new state. the ones who run into trouble are the ones who don't have that stature or who don't have any familiarity with the residents of their new state and have to keep explaining over and over that, well, yes, i used to be a senator from tennessee but now i want to represent maryland or used to be the governor of massachusetts, now i want to represent new hampshire. those folks have a much harder time overcoming the label. >> with regard to dr. oz clearly fits into that celebrity label, nationwide he has a profile, there was polling released this week, pennsylvania voters were asked does the fact that dr. oz only recently moved to pennsylvania bother you a lot a little or not at all? 26% said a lot. 25% said a little. let's call that half the republican electorate and 48%, 48% said not at all. by the way, interesting to me, only 1% said i don't know.
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what do you make of that? >> well, i think that's getting at something that is really changing in our politics. once upon a time the people you wanted to represent you are people who knew your area, knew your state, knew how to pronounce the names of small towns and that sort of thing. now politics is so nationalized that voters really first and foremost particularly party primaries mainly care about somebody that they think will win the election and stick it to the other side. so, if you're a republican voter in pennsylvania and you think the way to go is with celebrity talk show host, then the fact that oz just moved in from new jersey and may spend a lot of time in new jersey isn't going to both you all that much. >> let me ask you this. you make me think of one of my favorite jokes from seinfeld. i'll play it and try to draw the connection. roll it. >> loyalty to any one sports team is pretty hard to justify. because the players are always
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changing. the team can move to another city. you're actually rooting for the clothes when you get right down to it. you know what i mean? you are standing and cheering and yelling for your clothes to beat the clothes from another city. >> are politicians going to go the way of athletes? are we going to start looking at them like commodities that can be traded? >> probably not to that degree. i think you're not going to see somebody who has won an election in one state pick up sticks and move to another state while they still hold office. however, i think because our politics are so polarized and so nationalized, i think those local ties are going to matter less and less in a lot of cases. >> professor, thank you. it's fascinating stuff and i appreciate your time. >> glad to be here. thank you. still to come, more of your drawings and we'll give you the final result of this week's survey question at smerconish.com. go vote right now. which party has been more hijacked by extremists? democratic or republican?
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time to see how you responded to the survey question. which party has been more hijacked by extremists? here are the results. survey says. wow. a 90-10er. 27,000 say it's the rs. the correct answer, and i didn't offer this to you, would have been both. all right. most importantly, some more sketches. more of your stick figure drawings. what do we have, catherine? wow, that's fancy shmancy. joe the nerd starts out on the
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left. stays on the left. it's what i'm saying. i love how he's got me with the hill and al jazeera. let's flip through a couple of these. gut check says, now, what is gut check saying? that gut check has stayed in the same place but that the center has moved to the left? i think that's how i see it. what's next? i didn't move. the middle did. okay. so i can't see your name, but i love the fact that you, you signed your drawing for authenticity purposes. so you're in the center, but again, you don't think the middle did it. now the right is shifting far to the right. one more if we've got time. keep these coming. i love them. it's a funny exercise. this is the winner. henry stein says i'm leaning, i'm leaning well left but i am feeling upside down, virtually
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