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pushing russia back, ukrainian forces inching toward the russian border as they push back russian forces to the east of kharkiv and man hunt for a missing alabama corrections officer and the dangerous inmate she's accused of springing from jail. clues of a romantic relationship and a planned escape piling up. the county sheriff joins me ahead in this hour. i want to bring in now democratic congresswoman jackie spear of california. thank you so much for joining us. i appreciate it. let's discuss this. women across the country are shocked and furious. reproductive rights will clearly be the democrats' rallying cry heading into the midterms. what can congress do to help women whose power over their own health care and bodies, women feel that may be stripped away? >> i hate to say this, don, this is nothing that can be done at this point. yes, we can call upon the two senators who had commitments
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from both kavanaugh and gorsuch that they respected precedent and that roe v. wade and casey were here to stay. and susan collins and lisa murkowski both were committed because of those statements that were made, but you still have to, then, get them to agree to do away with the filibuster as it relates to this specific law. this specific bill. and i just don't think that they will do that. so the next step is raising everyone's awareness about how diabolical this draft statement really is. because justice alito has every intention if this goes forward as drafted to do away with the right to abortion completely. it would be totally left up to the states. and all you have to do is look
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across this country, the states are made a majority of them are by men who make these decisions. and we basically have a situation where we will have government mandated pregnancies that women will have to endure, and it is something that we've got to get our brains around because, in fact, it's so much worse than even i think most people think. >> it's going to be stunning to hear because, you know, i had people approaching me saying, wait, is this really done, is this what's happening? i said, well, actually this draft statement, if it turns out to be true, yes it is. i know you said there's nothing to be done. senator dick durbin said leadership reviewing what legislation to bring to the floor to codify roe v. wade into law, of course democrats don't have 60 votes. they're deciding whether to get input from moderate republicans. isn't this a five alarm fire and
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shouldn't democrats have seen this coming and had a battle plan for it? >> i think that maybe you're right, maybe the criticism is justly deserved but i don't think that the expectation was that it would be a wholesale removal of the right to abortion and that shifting to the states. i mean, what justice alito is basically saying here is crow do you don't have a fundamental constitutional right to control your own body as a woman. i don't think we ever thought it would go that far. >> i wanted you here obviously to talk because you're a congressperson but also you have a very personal relationship with this, you've been a champion for women's reproductive rights and i know this is very personal for you, you were the first member of congress to share your own experience with abortion on a house floor during a debate over planned parenthood, you responded to a republican
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congressman reading a graphic description of certain procedures. here it is. >> i had a procedure at 17 weeks, pregnant with a child that had moved from the vagina into the cervix and that procedure that you just talked about was the procedure that i endured. i lost a baby. but for you to stand on this floor and to suggest, as you have, that somehow this is a procedure that is either welcomed or done cavalierly or done without any thought is preposterous. >> listen, i thought -- i remember when that happened, and i thought it was very brave of you. let me just give a stat before i
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get your response. one in four women has an abortion by the time she is 45, congresswoman. that's according to the guten fw bacher institute, very few women talk about it. w >> truly it was not my intention to stand up and tell that story, i was so filled with rage when i heard this member speaking about abortion that he knew nothing about, and the thing that's important to point out is 59% of the women who have abortions in this country are mothers. i was a mother. it is not done as a form of contraception. it is not done as some, you know, easy way to deal with sex when you do not have protection. it is -- it is so fundamentally
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wrong to everything we believe about personal autonomy. and to think that so many of these colleagues have been smarting about having to wear masks, that that was infringing on their personal rights but you're going to now take control of my uterus? i don't think so. i think that's the message we have to get out to women and families and men across the country that recognize that this is just wrong headed. >> congresswoman, some people think it's preposterous that this debate is even being had especially in the political realm. there's a separation of churng a -- church and state, many believe this is on the basis of religion, this is the religious rite, and if you don't believe in having an abortion, if you're religious just don't do it, but you shouldn't enforce your views on other people. do you believe that, that this is sort of, that there is no separation of church and state when it comes to this issue? >> i think there is a separation
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of church and state. i think that's what happened is that this issue has been a away of appealing to the right evangelical evangelical christians and it has been used by my republican colleagues to attract more support. and if you notice what's been happening the last few days, they're not talking about this draft decision. they're talking about the leak because they know that they have really overreached here, so yes, this is a violation of church and state. that's protected in the first amendment as well. it's what brought so many of our pilgrims to the united states because they wanted to be able to practice their religion freely. i am a catholic. i'm a practicing catholic. i do not impose my believes on others. nor should others impose their beliefs on me. >> congresswoman, thank you so
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much. >> thank you, don, thank you very much. and as we were just discussing, there's intense anger across the country over this draft supreme court opinion. a lot of democrats are blaming the gop saying they have capitalized on a system that allow a minority of voters to elect leaders that have reshaped the highest court. let's bring in cnn political analyst, ron brownstein, and max boot a columnist for the "washington post," so interested to hear both of your perspectives, thank you so much. this is cnn's polling, it shows the majority of americans don't want roe v. wade to be overturned so explain how something so important in the lives of so many is happening when, you know, when most people aren't on board with this. >> the short answer is the president nominates and the senate confirms supreme court justices and elections for both are tilted in the direction of small, rural predominantly white
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christian states that republicans dominate. democrats have won the popular vote in seven of the past eight presidential elections, no matter has done since the formation of the modern party system. if you go back to 1980 and assign half of each state's population to each senator, republicans have represented a majority of the country in the senate only once in the last 42 years and yet, republicans have appointed six of the nine supreme court justices. in fact, five of those republicans have been appointed by republican presidents who initially lost the popular vote and four confirmed by senators who represented less than half of the country, and what's more, it's not only kind of the overall population numbers, the republican coalition is center overwhelmingly on the places in the country, the states that are the least touched by the demographics and cultural changes remaking america in the 21st century, when the result when you add all of this up is the america of 1950 is in
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position to right the legal rules to the america of 20. >> to congressman spears' point, why then is a religious issue, why does it take so much precedent. why is it looming so large on a political issue, i shouldn't say political, on a personal issue. shouldn't there be a separation of church and state, should people who want to be able to get abortions with restrictions, shouldn't they be able to get restrictions and, those who don't, if you don't believe in it, don't get an abortion? >> well, you know, look, the polling that you cite that most americans do not want to overturn roe has been true for 50 years, has been true throughout the entire roe period. americans have consistently said they do not want to overturn roe, and somewhere around 60% are saying in polls that they believe abortion should be legal in at least some circumstances. so yes, and in fact, across
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almost every religion as the public religion research institute pointed out in a new release this week, white evangelical christians are the only major religious group at this point in which a majority says abortion should be illegal in most circumstances. that's a very powerful constituency inside the republican party, and you know, it's not only abortion as i think many people have pointed out, despite the language to the contrary in the alito draft, once you say there is no right to privacy, there are other decisions. interracial marriage, same-sex marriage, contraception at risk. and more broadly, don, the supreme court republican majority has hung out a shingle encouraging red states to challenge any precedent that conservatives don't like. today the governor of texas greg abbott said he wants to revisit the 1982 decision that requires states to provide public education to the children of
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undocumented immigrants. it's not going to be long until red state challenges make a decision on same-sex marriage, this is basically what they are inviting by a sweeping language and their willingness to revoke a 50-year-old constitutional right. >> that's what the concern is that it's going to lead to other things, that it's a slippery slope. max, why then for conservatives is the second amendment sack singt but this one is not, the roe v. wade is not. >> that's a good question, don, i think you're moving into a situation where the current very conservative majority on the court is going to tell states that they can essentially outlaw abortion but they cannot do anything about people packing guns in the streets. it's a bizarre situation. it really doesn't make a lot of logical sense. it can only really i think be understood in terms of conservative ideology, which really seems to be what the conservative majority is legislating on. it's not really the law.
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what they're trying to do is exactly what they have accused liberals of doing for 50 years which is to impose their political preferences from the bench at a time when as ron points out, they are largely losing the popular fight in the country at large, that the trends of the country are moving away from this very conservative world view which is held primarily by people in rural areas and smaller states but those rural areas and smaller states essentially have a hammer lock on the senate, on the electoral college, and therefore on the supreme court, which is increasingly unrepresentative of the country at large and yet never the less, is acting in an increasingly radical and sweeping manner disregarding the lack of poplar support for their decisions and i think this is only exacerbating the crisis of legitimacy, and undermining the basis of our democracy which is
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something that's happening with everything from january 6th and the big lie and there's so many other factors that are undermining support for our institutions and this is just another one of those that leads me to be very concerned about this country's future. >> max, i owe you another question next time i see you. that's all we have time for. thank you, gentleman, we'll see you. the fed optimistic that it can avoid a recession after the biggest rate hike in more than two decades but americans are feeling fed up with the economy and the impact on their wallets, how long could it be before things turn around? >> announcer: don lemon tonight" brought to you by rounds for lawn products, this kills weeds, not lawns, always read pesticide directions. so weeds don't come back. this sff works for you, your neighbor, your neighbor's neighbor, heneighbor's neighbor. this stuff works guaranteed, or your money back.
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so the fed announcing a half point interest rate hike today and that's a big deal, the largest single hike in 22 years. it's all about trying to tame inflation which has americans paying more for everything from groceries to gas. st stocks soared on the news with the dow having the best day in two years. for more, let's bring in ki risdall. >> the mark soars, that is big rate high but the fed is optimistic it can cool inflation, and the market soars. what is going on. do you think it's possible? >> i don't know if the fed is optimistic, it's difficult, it's going to be challenging, there's a path that we can get through the rate hikes that are coming to what's called a soft landing,
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getting the economy back to normal, getting inflation down without causing recession. how long is it going to last? i don't know. the fed can't control that. the federal reserve as the chair said today doesn't control the supply side of the equation, and so much of this inflation is being driven by what we have been talking about for two years, right. all of this coming out of a pandemic,m pandemic, wanting more stuff, everybody wants what they want, when they want it, and that's not something the fed controls. it's going to be a little bit. >> so when i saw the market, you know, soaring, i was like wait a minute, it's always like the people with money who can invest in the market usually. they always do well, and then you have the rate hikes, the people who, you know, need credit to be able to buy a home and all that, they don't do well. >> right. >> so first of all, here's what happens with the markets. powell was asked today, you're
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raids raising it a half percentage point, why not 3/4 of a percentage point. powell said we're good. we're not going to 75 basis points, and the market heard that and said we're good, chair powell feels all right, we're going to buy. the biggest point is inflation is hitting the whole academy and it's the people at the lower end of the income spectrum, feeling gas at 422 nationally, and oil at 108, and inflation at a 40-year high. >> you're reading my mind when it comes to the polling. by the way, the market soared, shooting up 900 points on this news. crazy. speaking of the new polling that shows that 23% of americans show current economic conditions as being good. 23, that's not good, despite unemployment being at a 50-year low, strong consumer and business spending, what do you
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make of the disconnect? are we measuring the economy correctly given how much the world has changed. i had a similar question last time, you're wrong. >> one of the interesting thing in the poll that your producers sent me. people say they are not hearing good news about the economy almost at all, and apart from inflation, right, which is a huge drag on millions of americans, right, apart from that, this economy is strong. businesses are spending money. they are hiring. there are two job openings, 1.9 job openings for every person in this economy looking for work. unemployment at a 50-year low. inflation drains that, the wage increases are not keeping up with inflation, and that's why people feel so lousy, it's a huge challenge. >> you think it's the biden administration is not broadcasting their accomplishments enough or what's good about the economy or the news media is focusing on the negative part of the economy, is
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that -- >> i think the news media by and large focusing on, oh, my god, inflation is at a 40-year high. jen psaki can go to the white house briefing room and the president can go out and give a speech and say this economy is strong, and i feel your concerns about inflation. there are two challenges about that. number one, someone says, oh, okay, but then they have to pay 5 bucks for a gallon gas, and that's a big problem. and the president by himself can't do so much about this inflation. we have to let the supply chain backlog get through the economy. jay powell can raise rates from now in the cows come home. until the supply chain gets fixed and we are done buying, there's going to be inflation in this economy. >> thank you, sir. >> anytime, man. >> good luck. >> we'll see you soon. >> see ya. new fighting at the azovstal steel plant in mariupol, ukraine, where hundreds of
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russians have broken into the steel factory where defenders are making a last stand. and all of this as russia continues to launch deadly strikes from the air all across ukraine. joining me now to discuss cnn military analyst, and retired air force colonel, cedric leighton, good evening, good to see you. so ukrainians keep claiming successes in the northeast as they push russia further from kharkiv. what risks pop up as they get closer to the russian border? >> this is going to be really interesting, don, because right here. this is kharkiv, russian border is right there. it's basic 30 miles away, and if we look at a closer map here of the donbas region, we can see kharkiv right here in this area and what the ukrainians are at risk of here is being encircled by the russians in these areas. these are the pockets where they're at, but if they move in this direction, the russians could conceivably go after them
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this way. however, the ukrainians also have the capacity to potentially go around this way with extra forces and take out the russians that are right here, so it could be a battle where they take each other out in this area. the ukrainians generally have the upper hand at this point, but it's all about momentum, and if the russians regain momentum, the ukrainians are at risk once again. >> so colonel, the u.s. is sharing intel with ukraine, providing information about russian forced movements and locations along with intercepted communications within 30 minutes to an hour of receiving them. is this typical or going beyond the norm to help allies? >> it's definitely going beyond the norm for an ally like ukraine. one of the reasons that we do this kind of thing is if we take a look at some of the things half happened, we are looking at very precise targeting here. this is one of the things that can happen with precise intel. you can go after specific things, and that is one of the
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big things that we're trying to do with the intelligence that we provide the ukrainians and anywhere in this country, you're looking at the ability to go after certain discreet elements, and that's one of the main reasons that this intelligence is being shared. it's being shared very carefully, but it is, you know, something we've done with other countries, but it is not something we've done before with ukraine, so that's why it's unique in this case. >> how could the ukrainians be using this intel strategically along with the weapons the u.s. is sending. >> what they're doing is really taking very precise looks at the different people that they're going after. they're looking at different weapons systems that the russians have. they're going after, for example, if you look again at the animation right here, you see some of the bigger things that we're doing here with this. so the drones are looking at this by themselves, it appears in this animation but the only reason that they're in this area and they're being able to target
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these weapons systems, is because they know where they're at. it's all about location, just like in real estate you talk about location, location, location, the same thing is true in targeting. you use very precise mechanisms to go after specific things and the intelligence we have is used in this way to do exactly that. >> the pentagon spokesperson john kirby said russia is targeting critical infrastructure like transportation hubs but say key u.s. military aid is still making its way into the country. do you think russia's efforts will eventually stop this? >> no, i don't, because there are lots of ways that the ukrainians have to go against what the russians are doing. but if we take a look here and just see where the russians have been striking, it is instructive because right here, in the carpathian mountains right here, this is on the slovakian and polish borders and also the hungarian and romanian borders that go through this area right
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here. so this is definitely a strike that is designed to interdict, to cut off the supply lines coming through this area. the same thing for the strikes in lviv and venetia, that's why these areas are important from a supply line standpoint, they are going to be hit hard. the ukrainians can overcome this. thank you, be well. >> you bet. thank you. one says her vote for trump is vindicated, the other says what's happening is patriarchy at its worst. alice stuart, kristen powers are here, and they're going to talk roe v. wade after this. not all plastic is the same. we're e carefully designing our bottles to be 100% recyclable, including the caps. they're collected and d separatd from other plastics, so they can be turned back into material that we use to make new bottles. that completes the circle and reduces plastic waste. please help us get every bottle back.
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so an ominous warning tonight from the head of the cdc in the wake of the supreme court draft opinion that would overturn roe v. wade, dr. rochelle walensky saying she believes women may die if they're denied access to abortion services, especially women who do not have the resources to cross state lines if abortion is outlawed in many states. we have a lot to discuss now with cnn senior political analyst, kirsten powers, and alice stewart, a republican strategist. i saw something you tweeted and i want to read it. you said, believe it or not, it's possible to believe abortion is wrong and not
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something you would do and recognize that reasonable people of good faith disagree and should be allowed to follow their own conscience. talk to me about this. >> yeah, well, i was addressing the fact that when i came out with my opinions about the leaked decision i support roe v. wade and i always have, you know, a lot of people were coming at me basically, you know, making religious arguments because i'm catholic, and so i was addressing this argument that a lot of people make that you, you know, if you're a christian, for example, or a decent human being, utough see this is a child being murdered and slaughtered and all the language they use. i was trying to make the point if you think about this in a less binary way, which people have such a hard time doing, that people of good faith who actually spent a lot of time thinking about this issue have come to a different conclusion,
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and it's made in good faith, and you know, you are free to have your opinion about it, but to take your opinion and then impose that religious belief on to other people, i just, it's not okay. and so that was the argument i was making, you're free to believe what you want to believe and live your life that way, but once you start moving into making your religious argument, yo you know, that anybody who doesn't hold it is somehow some kind of monster, i think you're in some pretty bad territory. >> alice, i know you are pro life, and you say that your entire vote for trump is vindicated based on the supreme court, what's your response to what kirsten just said. >> look, i have also been hit from many sides for speaking out my opinion on this very divisive issue. i like am pro life, and i happen to believe -- >> i'm not pro life. >> i think it's really important
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to protect the sanctity of the unborn and protect the life of innocent children. there are 63 million reasons why i believe this because that is the number of abortions that have been conducted since roe v. wade was enacted in 1973, and look, these are the people, these unborn babies don't have someone speaking out for them, and i think it's really important that we keep them in mind and someone stand up for them. and look, people have lit their hair on fire with this opinion coming out saying that abortion is going to be banned across the country. that is not true. what this does, this takes this very important issue, takes it out of the hands of nine unelected justices and puts it in the handso of elected representatives at the state level, closest to the people where the best decisions are made, and that is important to keep that in mind. look, republicans have fought for decades for originalist jurists to the supreme court that would adhere to the strict
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interpretation of the constitution. that's exactly what alito did in this opinion saying that abortion is not specifically addressed in the constitution, therefore roe v. wade was incorrect from its very inception, even ruth bader ginsburg said just the same when she addressed the law court years ago. >> go ahead. >> the other thing that i said today is this argument is like peak patriarchy. it's a self-reinforcing loop that you can never get out of because the men who wrote the constitution hundreds of years ago didn't think that the people who they believed were their property, right, that women were their property, that they didn't believe the people who were their property should have a right to abortion or to frankly anything is irrelevant. you know, you don't -- we don't look to the history to mimic, you know, people who believe
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that women and black people were their property. okay. we look to our past to learn lessons. and to have justice alito or even to listen to you, alice, frankly say that because these people didn't put abortion in the constitution that that means that there is no right to constitution, it's crazy making. you know, because there's no way to ever get out of that loop because this idea of even of the test that he's putting on it, you know, nothing really can pass these tests. >> let me ask you this -- there are other issues beyond christianity where people find sacred, right, and should that -- if people were wanting to espouse their religious beliefs or put their religious beliefs on the courts or make them legal, alice, would you be okay with that? there are many religions that
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don't like meat. should we ban meat in the united states. this is an example. i know it's not equal, but how far do we take this, it's supposed to be a separation of church and state, and i understand your feelings about it, and i accept that. i understand kyrsten your feelings about that and i accept that. shouldn't there be a separation of church and state and when you have something like this, shouldn't it be based on what the doctor and woman thinks is okay rather than on a religious belief because part of the reason, a main part of the reason this country was founded is for religious freedom. >> what needs to be kept in mind here is the fact that this is about what is written in the constitution, this is what the supreme court with this opinion addresses is this abortion issue -- >> i understand that. but you understand there are lots of things that were not written in the constitution. when the constitution was written, i wasn't considered a human being. it's not in the constitution. do we go back to that time and say, you know, for a person of color, a black person, that i
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should not have every right that you have, alice, as a person under the constitution in america because it's not originally written in the constitution? >> look -- >> they didn't say interracial marriage was okay, and the supreme court said it was. >> alice hold on, just another point, under the constitution, you would not be able to vote, and now you have full right as a man, as a white man, white men were able to vote. now you're able to vote as a woman, should you not be able to vote because it wasn't in the constitution? >> look, alito specifically said this opinion deals specifically with the life issue, and all of those other issues -- many previous precedents have been overturned, plessy v. ferguson is a case in point. look, talking about what is crazy making, what's crazy is we have some states, virginia, for example, that allows abortion, taking of a life up to the third
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trimester. i mean, the maybe is almost born and they're fine with aborting it. >> but that's where the country lives, in the middle. it's not the extreme. >> save a woman's right. this is insane. >> hold on, i'll let you make a point. i think most of the country believes there should be restrictions on abortions, the life of a mother should be included in that, that it should be allowed but that is not what is happening here. going on, sorry, i'll let you make your point. >> the vast majority of abortions happen within the first eight weeks, you know, this is always taking us off into this other part of where it's dealing with like an 1% of abortions. it's not what we should be talking about. i want to get back to what you said, alice, and this is the point i was trying to make with the tweet that don brought up, you're talking about -- you're speaking in very definitive terms that this is a person, that an embryo is a person, and what i'm saying is there are a lot of people of good faith who
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do not believe that. reformed jews who have spent a lot of time thinking about this issue morally and theologically do not believe that. why is that view being imposed on people who do not share that religious view. >> i got to go, alice, quickly. >> many pro life people believe life begins at conception. >> great, don't get an abortion. >> and also to the point don says in terms of making exceptions, i believe there should be exceptions in the case of rape, incest and life of the mother. this is not a blanket across the board ban on abortions. there should be exceptions, but in certain cases, but not in all. >> we'll continue this conversation. thank you both, i really appreciate it. >> thanks, don. >> we'll be right back. this is how it feels to have a dedicated fidelity advisor looking at your full financial picture. this is what it's like to have a comprehensive wealth plan with tax-smart investing strategies
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so, tonight, the whereabouts of alabama corrections officer and an inmate she sprang from jail still a big mystery. officer vicky white and murder suspect casey white, not related, by the way, disappeared from the lauderdale county jail on friday and they haven't been seen since. but clues of a romantic relationship and a planned escape piling up tonight and authorities are now checking tips coming in from several states. i want to bring in sheriff rick singleton of lauderdale county, alabama. sheriff, we really appreciate you joining us. thank you so much. so, help us get to the bottom of this. you now suspect that vicky white and casey white had a romantic
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relationship before they disappeared. what led you to believe this? >> well, it began last saturday when some of the inmates here in our facility sent word to our investigators that there was a relationship between the two. when something like this happens in a jail, of course, every inmate has information that they want to exchange for some favor or whatever, so, you have to take it with a grain of salt, but at the same time, you can't ignore it. we took their statements, what they said, followed up on it and we did confirm that, in fact, there was a relationship there. casey white was in our facility in 2020 for an arraignment hearing, he was moved back to the department of corrections where he was serving 57 75 year for multiple charges and then he was recently brought back in february to our facility for his trial appearances. during that time, between 2020, while he was this the state prison, we now know that vicky
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white did, in fact, visit him in the prison more than once. i don't know exactly mow many times, but multiple times, she visited him there in the prison. >> okay. listen, that should have been my first question, sorry about that. it's late. any clues to where they are, any leads, anything? >> we have several leads that we're following up on. some of them look promising. we hope they pan out, but yes, we've gotten several tips from actually all over, especially the east of the mississippi and, you know, we're following up on all those leads. like any case like this, the vast majority of them do not pan out, but we do have some that have some promise, so, we're especially focused on those right now, trying to get all the information we can. at this time, we do not have any clue where they're at. >> all right, anything you can share that doesn't give it away, that doesn't hurt your case,
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anything, any lead or anything? >> well, i can tell you that we've had multiple, you know, reports of sightings from florida all the way up to kentucky, and, you know, so, we're not sure, but one specific incident in florida where a lady went into a convenience store, handed the clark a note, i'm vicky white, i've been kidnapped, help me, it turned out she was not vicky white. that's just one example of it. >> yeah, so, they got -- are you still looking for this gold or copper colored ford edge suv or do you think they have changed cars, or what? >> well -- well, we're still looking for it, and i think now that word's out about that vehicle, we'll probably find it in the next, hopefully in the next day or so. but you know, the description of the car is what we worked on hard all weekend, because we had no clue what kind of vehicle they left in and we were finally
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able to get that description and confirmed it and that happened early monday morning, so, we put the word out to law enforcement to be on the lookout and inadvertently one of the agencies sent the description out publicly. my question to anyone is, if you were one of them, you knew that we knew what you wiere driving, what would you do with it? so, we expect they're going to change vehicles, but that -- there's a silver lining there, though, yeah. >> well, sheriff, thank you. >> the silver lining. >> go ahead, quickly, please. >> yes, sir. the silver lining, because if we find the car, that will give us a region of the country we need to be searching. >> got you. sheriff, let's hope you find them and we appreciate you joining us and let's hope those promising leads do pan out. appreciate it. thank you so much. >> thank you, don. thanks for watching, everyone. our coverage continues.
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